eero (Amazon) - eero Pro 7

If I were on your place, I do next setup: isp ont - eero 7 pro - network switch (2.5gb or 5gb) - Ethernet cable to two another 7 pro on each floor. In this case you will have reliable 1500-1700 mb speed on wireless clients on each floor

For 1500 sqft, I wonder if a single Pro 7 will work. Unless it would not be centrally located?

The Max 7 has no separate satellite by design. Only other Max 7 (or lower) to use as a satellite. You'll likely be OK with a single Max 7 for that space, and the drywall will be better for signal penetration than if you mentioned concrete, brick, etc. The radios in the Max 7 are far superior to the Pro 7 (range & link quality to clients), you get better options with the Max 7 regarding Ethernet ports for future use, and a single Max 7 is better than two Pro 7 with competing spectrum & added hops for clients on paper. Whatever you decide, make sure to place the gateway unit as high up in the room as possible without looking out of place, to avoid solid object interference.

Same issue with my be14000. Returned it and got the eeros pro 7. Love it's so far.

Just upgraded from the 6+3 pack to a 7 pro 3 pack and ended up just using two of them. Very pleased so far.

Any eero will do. Just don’t buy it on eBay. Most of those are locked to ISPs, stolen, and will be bricked in the future. I’d suggest a 7 pro. If you dont want to drop that much cash, then a pro 6 or 6e. Dont buy an “extender”, a 5 anything, a 6 or 6+, and don’t buy the base 7. When you get your second eero, add it to the network, and then put it somewhere between your existing unit and the dead spot. Don’t put it in the dead spot. Good luck!

I would buy a single Eero max and centrally locate it in the home, and see what that does. You have an extremely demanding application, and you are very sensitive to performance issues with games, and you really want to buy the very best Wi-Fi router you can afford. The max 7 will last a long time, and I would highly recommend sticking to that model. The pro will do OK, but the max will really do what you want.

For your connection I would definitely recommend the Eero Pro 7 (Max 7 is hard for me to justify) it’s going to be better for backhaul (internal speeds) and if I was starting from scratch today, I’d be going that route. (I have Pro 6s and between my connection speed and number of WiFi 7 devices, which is 0, it’s hard to justify replacing.)

Some ISP include the Eero as part of the Internet service but if that’s not the case, I agree OP is better off declining it and using Eero 7 Pros or the existing Archer.

It'll work. My house is 1800 SQ feet and it's coverage is great. Plus it's advertised up to 2,500 SQ ft.

I just bought a two pack of eero 7 Pros and found it took three days before best channel assignment took place moving me from channel 36 to 100. The difference in speeds for all devices was incredible. I went from 300mbps to 680 (80 mbps over my Spectrum plan thanks to over provisioning) and I can now view live 2K feeds on our security cams without pixilation all while two other devices are streaming movies (the Orbi system it replaced couldn't handle that). Definitely give it at least three days before judging performance.

Just noticed my 7 Pros changed channels for the second time this week (from 36 to 100 to 128). We live in a cluster home development and right now I'm seeing all bars showing on 31 nearby networks in our neighborhood. Looks like my eeros are getting the job done surpassing our speed plan even with all the surrounding RF noise.

Partly out of necessity with a dying Orbi satellite combined with only a 20/600mbps service from Spectrum which I don't plan on increasing with just two of us here in a 2600 sq ft, two floor home. Additionally, the Max would have been overkill ...frankly the Pro is to an extent but considering what it offers and the price was right, I didn't want to settle for a lesser system that I might regret and end up sending back. My choice to get the Pro paid off. It fits our house perfectly - full coverage, great speeds, stability and devices don't roam between the gateway and leaf … I think I won ;-)

I would get the Pro 7. Better radios, better processor, better performance. Two of them should be sufficient unless your interior walls are plaster or stone.

I “upgraded” from Eero 6 Pro to the EERO 7 Pro, don’t ask me why. I now have to manually add common web sites to the “approved” list and that is a pain in the ass! “Customer support” is a joke and hasn’t helped changing whatever needs to be changed to stop the annoying need to add sites. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

my internet provider gives Eero for free as a part of the service. for such a small device it’s insanely powerful.

Love it! Switched from eero pro 6E and Pro 7. Don’t think just buy it! 2900 Sq Ft range too. Yes user friendly.

Naw, eero is garbage. Tp-Link Mesh is the way.

Huge vote for eero. I have them in two homes and love them. Moved from Orbi a couple years back and will. Ever look back. Setup is dead simple and config is sufficient for my needs. Recently upgraded ISP to 3 Gig so bought a Pro 7 as gateway but still have 6E’s for all access points, with wired backhaul.

Eero Max 7 and two Pro 7’s here (testing for when), and they wirelessly outperform my BGW620 (latest WiFi 7 gateway from AT&T that replaced my BGW320-505). The eero’s give me WiFi speeds of at least 1600 Mbps everywhere, vs max of 1200 Mbps wireless with the 620 (BGW320 maxed out at 1 Gbps wireless). I also get great coverage outside and inside my 2700 square foot home.

Eero Max 7 and two Pro 7’s here (testing for when), and they wirelessly outperform my BGW620 (latest WiFi 7 gateway from AT&T that replaced my BGW320-505). The eero’s give me WiFi speeds of at least 1600 Mbps everywhere, vs max of 1200 Mbps wireless with the 620 (BGW320 maxed out at 1 Gbps wireless). I also get great coverage outside and inside my 2700 square foot home.

I love the eero hardware but hate everything else so they go in bridge mode and everything is run off the nonsense router.

I love the eero hardware but hate everything else so they go in bridge mode and everything is run off the nonsense router.

Which provider? One of them that does 2gig is now using the pro 7 for 500 to 2gig.

I have a specific problem, I have 2Gig connection, I use cat 6 wires for most of tvs and computers, I recently got a eero pro 7, I have ring outdoor cameras and they play shitty with my eeros, also WeMo's keep dropping with eero, I tried Orbi 770 and even worst experience of dropped connection more often. Does any one has a suggestion for me to replace eero pro 7 that works well with ring cameras and WeMo's?

Having kids who run everywhere for wifi, eero is simply the best. Set it, forget it, and it's simplified my life. That is worth the cost to me.

Having kids who run everywhere for wifi, eero is simply the best. Set it, forget it, and it's simplified my life. That is worth the cost to me.

Are you hardwired together? You will never achieved perfect throughput without running Ethernet. eero mesh is good but all mesh systems will never compete with hardwired in. I have the Poe gateway plus two eero pros 7 and two max’s. Hardwired. Get full bandwidth almost in every spot in my house. Spend a weekend running Ethernet. My house is 300 years old and I did it. Best decision ever

I am in the minority here: but I'm super disappointed in mine. Coming from Eero Max 7. Best speeds I can get from it are 850/800. Eero maxes out my gigabit connection. And the range comparatively is also bad. Upstairs on my eero with my laptop on wifi 700 I can still damn near max out my gigabit. The dream machine itself barely gives me 300. So I thought: ok, 4x4 on 6ghz isn't fair vs 2x2. So I direct wired an Wall AP7 upstairs in the same room I test from... and at best I can get 650/600 on 6ghx/Wifi 7. I think I'm giving up and returning the Unifi equipment. I ABSOLUTELY HATE the eero and that I'm limited to an app for it and no real control. But I can't give up 30% performance even with dedicated AP's upstairs and downstairs. :(

Are you able to test your Wifi 7 speeds? Mine are slow as all hell. Like 150-300 down. My Eero max 7 pegs it at my provider speed of a gigabit. Overall all my wifi speeds seem way less than my Eero. I hate Eero and their app only control on it.... but I can't justify 25% of the wifi speeds just to have control.

I got an eero max 7 during Black Friday and it’s the best router I’ve ever had. I’m averaging 1200 down on my 1gig plan

I have the BGW 320-505 in passthrough mode with firewall and packet filters disabled that’s hardwired to 3 eero max 7’s with zero issues. I have a new 2 story 2,900 sq. Ft. with 95 devices.

I have 3 Cam2 Pro’s, 2 S3 Pro’s, 1 S330, and 1 E340 Doorbell with 1 Homebase 3. My WiFi is 3 eero Max 7’s and I haven’t had any issues

I've been on Eero for a number of years now upgrading to Max7's a year ago and its been rock solid for me and impressive throughput.

I've been super pleased with my Eero Max 7 based network that I've had over a year now.

4x4 MIMO is still advantageous even if all your devices are only 2x2 because the extra antennas can increase link quality and range ([source](https://www.wiisfi.com/#MIMO)). We tested the eero Max 7 (and all other routers) using a laptop with Intel's BE200 Wi-Fi 7 card, which is 2x2 MIMO, and still measured some pretty insane speeds (3310 Mbps). That said, the eero gives you basically no manual control and it took forever for us to get on the 320 MHz channel.

Hopefully you've not got a 5x so you can actually use modem mode. Depends how big your house is and what sort of price range you're looking at, but for the money (when they're reduced) the Eero Max 7 is a serious piece of kit that will last you for many years to come. They frequently reduce to £449 so wait if you plan to buy one!

I switched to Eero 7 stuff, running 2x Eero Max 7 and 2x Eero Outdoor 7 in AP only mode w/ UniFi UCG-Fiber for my router/gw. No regrets. SO MUCH more stable than the Orbi 770 with its hourly lag/packet loss issues. The roaming is second to none. I've tested it thoroughly and I'm impressed. I know it seems basic, but it's stable and seamless. Performance is roughly on par with the Wi-Fi devices I have at least. I pull 1.3-1.5 Gbps on 6 GHz Wi-Fi 6E, 2.2-2.3 Gbps on 5/6 GHz Wi-Fi 7 MLO, and somewhere between 900 and 1200 Mbps on 5 GHz Wi-Fi 6/6E (honestly not sure what that mode even is linking as standard wise, but that's on my outdoor APs). The wireless backhaul performance is not as strong but it's way more stable. I've got wired backhaul for my important segment anyway.

I was looking at UniFi but in the end went with the Eero Max 7’s. 2 of them are good, 3 mean zero slowdowns. The ease + built in thread network sold me and it’s future ready for when I want to run an Ethernet backhaul with the 10gbps ports. No subscription and no regrets so far.

You would get more from running a wire to the other access points. But if that’s not possible, putting a Max 7 down in the basement might provide stronger signal to the wireless APs. In my setup I have an Eero PoE Gateway in the basement with a mix of mostly wired Pro 6 and PoE 6

Two eero 7 max

The eero max 7 will smoke the UDR7 any day in terms of hardware and performance.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

I think folks that have commented already missed the point that you're not tech-savvy and do not way to deal with complicated setup/ troubleshooting. I would avoid Ubiquiti. It's a great product and I use it. But it requires network know-how the set it up and maintain it. I would recommend Eero. It's a solid performer and designed for the person that isn't tech-savvy and does not want to tinker with the network. Eero has probably the best mesh products on the market today. Depending on your layout/ needs, you could go PoE Gateway + PoE 6 APs. Great for ceiling AP locations. I also use this setup. Alternatively, you can use Max 7 or Pro 6E. Avoid 6/6+ models from Eero.

This is a good recommendation. Eero for simple, plug and play with probably one of the best mesh networks in market today. Ubiquiti if you want more configuration capabilities and have more network know-how.

If you have ethernet cabling between floors, use that as much as possible. If not, then it is mesh. One of the best mesh systems on the market is Eero. Solid and super easy to setup and use. That's what I use. You can start with one and only add more devices as you need them. But don't oversaturate your wifi. That creates wifi interference which leads to performance issues.

Don't use the 6E as your gateway but keep it as an extender. It has two ethernet ports, one 2.5G + one 1G, which would throttle your network if you use it as a gateway, but works well as a repeater in a remote room or low utility area 7 Pro or Max would make an excellent gateway. Add a few multi-gig or gigabit switches where needed TP-Link has a lot of compatibility issues among their devices. Archer won't work with Deco or Omada. Most of their routers support Matter but other IoT protocols are hit or miss. They also may get banned by the US for security reasons [Compatibility List | TP-Link](https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/compatibility-list/) I chose eero over ASUS because the eero 7 Max beats their best routers both on hardware specs and ASUS lacks support for IoT protocols like Matter, Thread, Zigby, & Bluetooth

New ones suck too! My ISP just gave me the Eero Max 7, same issues I had with the 6.

I use Eero Max 7’s too and agree it’s way better than the AT&T equipment.

Budget? Size of apt? Eero Pro 6E or Eero Max 7. If small apartment likely only need one. Set it and forget it solution that will give you gig wired and closest you can get over wifi. Can’t expect gig over wifi fyi. Would be chasing something that’s likely not worth it Remember 1 4K stream uses 25Mbps, 1/40th of your connection so you’ll be more than enabled. Keep the eero out of the closet — make sure it’s clear of obstructions. It helps

Both will cover. Pick based on price - there are a ton of other options but eero is set it and forget it and just works You don’t need their monthly service to enjoy the benefits of the platform. They’ll try to upsell you

You don't mention a price. To temper expectations here, there's no Wi-Fi system mesh or using ethernet backhaul that will consistently get you gig speeds for multiple devices.... At least not at distance and let's not even talk about through anything. With that said, out of all of the currently available consumer oriented mesh systems in the US, the Eero Max 7 has been great in testing. It's not always the fastest in throughput. But the connections have been more stable and with consistently low latency compared to other systems like Orbi and Google. If you are looking for something more capable in terms of network insight, Firewalla has added WiFi 7 desktop/table APs to their eco system. I haven't personally tested their APs. But people seem to generally rank them near the Eero Max 7 in terms of performance. Firewalla would be more prosumer, but it's still easy enough and primarily controlled with a cell phone app like most of the other consumer mesh systems. For prosumer single pane management you have Unifi, TPLink Omada and Aruba Instant On (100% cloud based controller). Unifi has a big fanboi base. I'm a recovering Unifi fanboi, sober for a couple years now. I'd personally go Omada in this space if only because they use better socs, Qualcomm (Omada) vs Mediatek (Unifi). The other issue with Unifi is their software is pretty much always in a beta state unless you stay quite a few releases behind and that release you are staying on is fully functional for you.

YES!!! Spectrum router is not that great. I pay for 1 gig and I wasn't even getting it 900 mbps. I got the eero 7 max and now I'm getting over 1.1 gigs

Eero Pro 6E or Eero 7 it’s plug and play,future proof will give you everything you’re looking for without all the technical jargon blasting you in the face.

Eero is definitely the best mesh networking out currently. We have hundreds installed with 0 callbacks. Eero 6e is pretty solid, but you could always jump up to the Eero 7 lineup.

Eero works great.

just get another EERO. why TF would u want a wifi extender?

how big is the house. i like the modem, but would look at EERO mesh instead.

just get a 3 pack of eero 6 or 7. the first one acts as the router. if you can hook them all up via cat5/6 thats great. if not, these still work very well.

ive deployed 250+ EERO mesh set ups. They work flawlessly for a set it and forget it internet experience.

I'll second this. Upgrade to Eero 7 when our new Google provided router was randomly disconnecting us multiple times a day. Best wifi and wired connection I've had now.

If no cables are run ... Best bet for a consumer easy install the eero wifi 7 just work well( turn off IPv6 in the network settings).

Eeros are the way to go. I just switched, it works beautifully and the software is very nice. And as long as I stay with the Eero brand, I’ll never need to reprogram any of my WiFi enabled devices ever again. I have an Eero 7 and a 6e. If I were doing it again, I’d probably just get the 6e. Go on eBay, you can find great deals on used Eero 6e. I got mine for $45, it looks almost brand new. You’ll regardless need a second signal source to get a stronger signal two brick walls away. It’s surprisingly easy to drill a hole through a brick wall, or cover a cable with carpet, or forget that there’s a cord running along the floorboard. Good luck!

Eero 7 is super impressive. Would be my first choice. I’ve done an eero 6 system in a 17,000sq ft home plus finished basement, pool house, detached garage and sports complex and it works flawlessly.

Consider eero outdoor WiFi 7 AP and their WiFi 6e or 7 mesh. It'll work for indoor and outdoor for years to come.

Two people should be fine with the 300 plan. My house is roughly that size, and I have a 3-pack of Eero Pro mesh routers. I had the house wired for CAT6 when we had it built, so the Eeros are all using Ethernet for the backhaul channel.

eero pro, my house is single floor 2400sqf, meross, aqara, homeassistant on a server for Ring and Nest via starling hub 26 devices Other than rebooting my main hub when IOS 18 dropped I don't have any issues for the past year or so. The only problems I've had I had to reboot my Aqara hub 1 time, rebooted a light switch after my eero did a firmware update. I had to reboot my meross garage door 1 time as well after my internet dropped due to a wind storm. All my tiny issues have been extremely easily with subtle wifi drops due power outages or updates. I just check my non connected devices now and then and honestly they are very very rare.

I have a shed here in the Midwest and had an original eero pro in it for 6+ years and never had an issue. So, if the node remains in the shed, I don’t know that you need to splurge for the eero outdoor. That being said, I just swapped mine out for an eero outdoor (because my back haul method was a hack) and it’s really nice. Very happy with it.

Eero pro from second generation up. All are fantastic and cheap, but secondhand. Just ask the seller straight up if they’re generic eero devices from Amazon or if they’re white label from some ISP. Just don’t buy the white label ones.

Put in the eero system for mesh WiFi

I have around 50 accessories including cameras. I’ve upgraded to eero pros and they have been a game changer. I bought 2 of them from Amazon refurbished for $50 each. I don’t think you can’t beat them for that price. All of my devices respond fast and my cameras load lightning fast. The biggest reason for me upgrading is my WiFi bandwidth would cause issues when I had company over. Now there’s no issues

I really like my Eero Pro. Overkill for your situation so maybe look at the regular Eero. Then you can expand if you get a bigger place in the future.

Router: Eero Pro mesh (3 access points). Apple TV 4K as the hub. Size of setup: 73 devices in the Home app. A mix of bulbs, sensors, switches, sockets, cameras, and most recently a robot vacuum. House is an average size 3 bed semi, garden goes back about 8 meters, driveway extends about 5 meters. There’s lights out front and back, and devices in the attic, so it’s all fairly spread out. A mix of HomeKit and Matter. Wi-Fi and Thread. 1 device on HomeBridge. Experience: In the 6 or so years I started my setup it’s been almost entirely rock solid, except for the first couple when I was clinging on to an old-ish AirPort router. As soon as I swapped that out for Eero it became stable.

I've been testing the Eero lineup against other competitors. The Max's are great but not that much better than the Pros. A lot of your performance will be up to capabilities of your client devices. Other comments about channel optimization are completely valid, Eero along with some others out there take a day or two to optimize their channel selection. It doesn't set a good impression on day one but gets better over time. Pricing wise I'd never spend what they're asking from retail on my own home network, but then again I'm spoiled from getting lots of free stuff working in the industry. The reality is, I haven't come across many situations where WiFi speeds are actually the root cause of issues on a given application in the home. Throughput testing is fun for easy bragging rights but I believe consistency and reliability are the most important parts of a good home wifi. Believe it or not, most high priced enterprise grade equipment will yield lower throughput tests than the retail home stuff, for good reason. They're tuned to service large numbers of clients with consistency, over servicing a few clients with truckloads of data. The reasoning behind this is, at a high level, if the CEOs web conference isn't silky smooth, nobody's gonna give a damn if it takes 5 extra minutes for a giant download to complete. They're tuned to deliver consistent and stable service as a priority, not drag race. Eero's new lineup has some of the best chips available in the industry, but IMO its overpriced. I do think performance will get better over time as newer clients become available and get better at using OFDMA(WiFi 6) and MLO(WiFi 7). 6GHz is a great addition but it's unfortunate that its optional for anything branded WiFi7, not mandatory. It's also at a disadvantage now with being locked in low power mode until we get a proper AFC system in place. That will allow them to unlock and operate at roughly twice the power levels they're limited to today in most scenarios. Making those extreme wide 320MHz channels work at higher rates through more walls. Sorry I got a little carried away there, dont know where I was headed 😅

Your best bet may actually be an EERO pro setup similar to your parents. It is a simple network to configure, works well and can easily scale in a residential situation.

[https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=4720d1a5-dce4-4ea9-b536-e3f583b12c5b](https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=4720d1a5-dce4-4ea9-b536-e3f583b12c5b) ISP is Converge. 5GHz wifi on R7800 router using built-in SQM. Bumaba lang yung download speed due to other users. Sadly phased-out na yung router ko. My recommendation for built-in SQM is eero Pro. Expensive but very user-friendly. Cheaper option would be flashing OpenWRT to Cudy WR3000 or WR3000S, this one I recommend since the manufacturer already provided the files needed, and guides are available which makes it a lot easier. Good luck!

+1 for the eero pro. I see a lot of people say to avoid them but mine has been great. I use HK secure router to block merosss and Aqara from the internet. I have three pro routers covering 2 story 2700+sqft and entire pool area.

IMO, I've always stuck with the Pro's and MAX's in the last 3 generations (7, 6 and "5"). I have over 190 devices and don't have drops on any of them and haven't since 2017.

eero Pro here, it’s been working great for five years. About 70 IoT devices, most of those are in HK.

I switched to Google Nest Wifi Pro 6E from my Eero Pros ( 3 pucks for 3 pucks ) and surprisingly my wifi speeds on devices have been better on Google. The ethernet speed hasn't seemed to change. I wanted to switch over to Google because I am trying to move away from Apple-centric stuff and Apple Home in particular, replacing it with Google Home. A lot more devices seem to work for Google Home that did not work for Apple Home. Its not been long but I have had no internet drops, no lag, no issues at all compared to the Eero's and its been significantly easier getting my fiancee to control things via Google Home rather than needing to jump through like six different apps for things that didn't play nice in Apple Home. I would say its still worth it. The idea on paper to always getting the best most advanced stuff makes sense but if your ISP hasn't sold you a plan that gets you 2.5GB internet speeds then it doesn't matter if the device is capable of providing that. You won't get that speed. It comes down to your budget and your comfortability. Upgrading a router for just $120 is a good deal.

That’s short enough that 2 eero pros would probably work

Eero pro all day

eero, quick, simple and it works very well. dude in middle may need eero router in bridge mode to keep speed up on far end.

On an android phone, you can download am app called WifiAnalyzer, it has a white wifi symbol and a green background. Itll tell you how many networks are in your area and should give an idea of if this is truly the wifi going out or just being talked over. Id also say to go into the routers gui and split the 2.4/5g bands and see if one gives better signal than the other, as most modern routers mesh them together via "smart connect" or similar language. A factory reset of the router is a last resort before simply buying a new one, as you don't really mechanically fix components in consumer routers anymore, they're too cheap. I like tp-links Archer series for a new simple router, and suggest Amazon's EERO if you want to get a meshed routing system for better coverage

Eero mesh with the outdoor unit on the main house probably.

Get eero or Tplink, you'll be fine. I went through 2 Google mesh systems and now leave them alone. BTW you don't need the wifi 7 or even 6E. Save some money unless you have Gigabit internet, then go crazy.

If you have to wireless mesh, eero is really good in my experience. Setup is painless and it just works, I’ve only had to reset my network maybe once or twice in the last few years. As others mentioned, if you can do wired backhaul then that’d be ideal.

Get a pair of Eeros. Plug one in to the router and set the other one up near your PC, then hard wire in to the Eero. I have this set up and there is no loss of ping compared to hardwire directly in to the Virgin hub.

I got Eero mesh. Zero problems

Eero can do a decent job if you are absolutely against wiring in access points. Just temper your expectations. The access points that are furthest away from the gateway will have slower speeds than the access points that are closer to the gateway. Your house’s type of construction will also play role in performance.

I use amazon Eero. You can get 3 of them for less than $400. My only crit is that they make it hard to set static IP and port forwarding on your home network (not impossible, but the UI is clunky), and that they don't support Dynamic DNS services (at least mine doesn't). For what it's worth, you'd probably only need 2 devices in a small townhouse. One upstairs and one downstairs.

The eero mesh system is pretty foolproof and great for users who don’t want to tinker. I highly recommend it for people who just want to plug their router in and forget it exists and maybe expand their mesh network as they need.

Using 3x eeros in mesh with over 70 devices ans it's rock solid with homekit, homebridge and homeassistant!

Simplest solution is something like Eero mesh routers. They also make an outdoor unit… so you can do something like put an Eero router in the main house, an outdoor unit in your patio or backyard, and then one in the guest house, and the signal should hop from main house > patio > guest house just fine.

I think the hate comes mostly from the fact that, although you don't have to, you're strongly encouraged to use it within the Amazon ecosystem and with an Amazon account which triggers every data/privacy nerd's alarms. I have an eero system and it works flawlessly and I do not have it set up with an Amazon account. I realize that Amazon could still snoop if they wanted to since they own the hardware and software stack now but, in my experience, you can verify that eero functions mostly independently of Amazon, if you want it to.

I’ve tried every single WiFi google nest router(google WiFi, nest WiFi, nest WiFi pro) and out of them they all had slow speeds. I ended up getting the eero mesh system and those work flawlessly

Orbi def best in market, next best is the google mesh, then Mby Eero mesh system… saw a lot of decco recommendations… they work alright but def lower in the ranks and way cheaper

I think it’s overkill. Eeros have been pretty solid. I bet if you just wired the nodes together it would be fine.

I have two eeros with wireless backhaul, which is suboptimal, and there is a noticeable moment as I go down the stairs and switch APs when the connection drops. For example Plex playback (on the new app) pauses for a couple of seconds, facetime calls drop for a second, wifi icon on phone shows connection strength to AP 1 falling and then improving with AP 2.

No it’s a good router! I’ve got it and so good the app is good too

Great feedback I work for Spectrum and I myself use eero mesh

I have an Eero mesh system. It's been great

Second this. I have one Eero connected to my modem and use my Echo dots as mesh extenders. I have the dots in almost every room since I could buy them so cheap during sales

I am definitely no techie or expert on the subject, but when our old router died, I replaced it with Eero mesh. Not only have I had no problems with it, but our internet speed became faster than what I am paying for with Spectrum.

I'm using the Eero mesh system with three routers in my 1600 sq. ft., two-story condo. Right now, I have 38 (90% of that is Homekit) devices online, and I add about six more during the holiday season. My HomeKit setup includes three HomePods, and I'm planning to get an Apple TV soon. Overall, the experience has been pretty smooth, and Wi-Fi is super fast with a 300 Mbps download speed. Occasionally, I do get some "No Response" issues, but it’s usually just with my Meross devices, and it’s an easy fix. Besides that, everything works great, and no major issues to report.

Lol what are you talking about? They both have “wireless only backbones”, AKA mesh networking. Unifi has a billion more features over eero and gives you a lot of granularity. I’d say go with eero if you want something that is simple and works well out of the box, and Unifi if you want to learn and tinker.

If you're not switching to 2gig service now, why replace the cable modem?  Money you don't need to spend.  And of course if you get the fiber service, a cable modem is useless. And then what problem are you trying to solve with the router/WiFi replacement?  In general, unifi is great if you can backhaul the nodes with an Ethernet cable.  It doesn't have a dedicated mesh radio unlike some of the systems designed for that. A 5 port 2.5gbe switch is $50, so if you want to connect your gaming rigs that might work.  If you wanted mesh system recommendations, orbi and eero would get my vote over Asus.  And then WiFi 7 is generally expensive and doesn't actually get you much over WiFi 6 if you don't have the clients to use it -- and phones don't need the speed.  

I agree with this. I have setup three Eero mesh systems for family members. They are super easy to setup and maintain. It has been set it and forget it for over three years now. These are installed in houses with users who are 65+.

Here's the advice you asked for: Go with Eero for your router. It fits what you need, reliable and will handle your networking needs, even as your network grows. It's pricey, but all these routers that cover your use case (and work reliably) will be. There are a few different models and options, so I would evaluate what fits your exact needs (do you want backhaul? Etc). Here's the unsolicited advice: You shouldn't be planning for your smart home to be gaining 50+ WiFi devices. If you are, it's extremely likely you're building it in a suboptimal way. Devices that use mesh protocols (Thread/Zigbee/Zwave) should be making up the bulk of your devices. You're going to run into more networking pains in the future if you keep just throwing tons of WiFi devices into the mix. Obviously this is pretty generic advice and comes with a lot of assumptions based on what you posted, but generally, you really don't want to be planning out your smart home to be primarily WiFi devices. Anyway, just my two cents. Take that for what it's worth

Since you have cable Internet and it runs into the basement, you hopefully have coaxial cables available to you throughout the house, and usually in key locations. Just look at the area where all the coax ends should meet, likely in the basement where your modem/router is at and plugged into. If you do find this bunch of coax, you can use it with MoCA Adapters to build a wired Ethernet network inside your home. If you can achieve that, then getting good WiFi everywhere will be easy, as well as providing wired capabilities for other devices in needed locations. MoCA Adapters can be a bit expensive, but worth the cost. If you can build this MoCA network, then whatever you choose as the router and Access Points will work very well, including a 3 pack of a reputable mesh brand. For mesh, I use and can recommend eero. But ASUS Zen mesh is also praised a lot, and has more configurability. If you want to go higher end, you can get an Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway router, a Ubiquiti PoE switch, and some Ubiquiti Access Points. It's more expensive, but very capable of advanced setups, and is very stable. I use Ubiquiti at another home and in my office location, and I can recommend them personally as well.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

Wireless MESH are great now. I do all of the same stuff you do and EERO works just fine.

Single story, you’ll probably need a mesh. Eero is good and simple to setup. There are others too ‘mesh routers’.

Be aware. I like my eero mesh. But it's a whiplash going from a router that has a management console I can access internally without Internet and have logs and history data to eero. Without Internet you cannot access the management of your network , you can only access via phone app with account no IP or web page. And some features are blocked behind a paywall like for example going to a list of which devices consume more data on a day and so on. I might change from eero to another brand in the future based on it but for a no frills, turn on and forget eero might be your better choice.

I read many poor things about Google Wi-Fi routers and I took the plunge anyways to see it for myself how bad they potentially are. For me it’s fine I’m a heavy gamer and big smart home user. It’s honestly been a better WiFi mesh router then others I bought and returned such as eero, and TP-Link. I have no issues, my only complaint is I wish it was a little more involved with settings but it’s simple interface is very unique compared to anyone else on the market and uses the Google smart home app. My speeds are flying, I personally got it because all the crap going on with TP-Link. I wanted to like eero but they are no good tbh. I don’t regret my decision with the google mesh router, I got the 6E version. Also I like the perk that I can block my kids devices with schedules and security policies for free while the other companies you would need to pay for that feature.

Eero with 3 points 2200 sq feet

Interesting comment, since I’ve found both the Zigbee and the Thread support provided by Eero to be completely useless. Thread doesn’t merge or interoperate with the one created by my AppleTVs and HomePods, which sucks because the routers could really boost coverage. Similarly, better Zigbee would be a boon for the Hue devices instead of needing to run that as a separate hub. Also, the “HomeKit” support in eero is heinous. It took wireshark to figure out that the eero app was flat lying to me about the IP it was supplying clients for DNS. I eventually shut down pretty much all their services in favor of a standalone Mikrotik.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

Hubby and I live in a 1953 ranch house in a subdivision that dates to that time period. Cell reception stinks tho internet options are plentiful. I tried wireless, but the walls were a mix of drywall and plaster. There was very old coax running through the house that was useless. I first tried the eero mesh system, but after a while, it had to be reset every night. I then ended up with a Linksys 6 system, but it started having problems after awhile. I broke down about 8 years ago and had a fiber network installed while I still had Verizon Fios. I really thought about it - where the drops should go and why they were going in those locations. Verizon was fond of coax cable at the time. Their bills became outrageous and I switched to a different provider that worked with fiber. Bless that company’s heart. (RCN/Astound). No difficulties at all and the bills remain under $100/month. It is worth it to install the fiber network. Look on Thumbtack or Angie’s list or wherever. Have a plan first. Consider getting the highest level fiber you can get so when higher speed internet becomes available you are capable of managing it. Or you can run your own fiber and use unmanaged switches. The original mistake I made was putting in cat 5 fiber. I had to have the fiber replaced for some rooms but not all. I now have a ubiquity network but it is complicated and not easy. I also have smart switches, outlets, smart electric panels, solar panels and some appliances are smart, but smart appliances are over rated, unless they cook or clean for you. I keep wishing for Rosie the Robot or a good android out of the iRobot movie. So my network has over 100 items and always expanding. I had a mesh system but I found it so frustrating. It was a dummy system and if there were latencies I couldn’t tell where they were - service provider or in-network. I was constantly tinkering with the apps, which could tell me nothing.

If you’re looking for mesh then Eero is the best. Otherwise ASUS is the best brand !

What you need to do is return the Spectrum router and save yourself $10 a month for the router WiFi monthly fee. The modem is free so you can keep that. Now what I would suggest for your WIFI Signal issues is to get something called a “Mesh WiFi system” these are meant for larger homes 3000+ sq ft and are best for coverage/range and speeds ! Eero is the best in my opinion for a mesh WiFi system !

It’s really not a true mesh system rather an extender to the existing routers signal. What I would suggest is you get a true mesh router system to get the best performance ! I highly recommend Eero as a mesh router as those are super reliable and easy to setup !

Forget the Spectrum router .. go to Best Buy and buy a mesh system like Eero. A 2 pack would be good for your situation !

Gotcha. Get your favorite Eero or Google mesh router and roll with it

Hardwire your house and add a WAP on second floor ceiling. We retrofit lots of houses for hardwire and teach clients to just use WIFI for portable devices, IOT’s and mobile phones. Hardwire all TVs, computers and network devices that can be hardwired. MESH is just a bandaid that has lots of loss when going from one AP to the other. You can use Eero and it will work like a charm.

Will the ‘nodes’ be hardwired to each other or will you require wireless mesh? If the former, consider UniFi. If the latter, consider eero. If you want to really mix it up, and budget isn’t an issue, consider a Firewalla router combined with one of the above as access points.

I use eeros for my mesh wifi and it works great with my OPNSense setup. I just dropped it into bridge mode. I physically segregate my LAN / Home WIFinetwork from my Guest and IoT via a 4 port nic and Firewall rules. My IoT stuff runns off a Nighthawk and the Guest also runs off another Nighthawk. BOth running OpenWRT firmware since stock is garbage and insecure.

Now I'm not expert, but for me the eero routers have awful wifi signal. I can't even get 200mbps over 2 meters away 😐

I use a eero mesh system. Easy to use and administer

I’ve had Eero for 4 years , 4 pods spread around, never had an issue, always stable , you can see all devices on the app with signal strength, would recommend.

Most mesh systems take a few days to adjust and will move channels until it finds the best scenario. Netgear orbi’s do this as well as the eero systems. But once there fully optimized they should be set it and forget it and just work. Speed fluctuations are normal but I did find the eero did have less speed than my netgear with identical locations and settings. So I reset the eero from scratch and then the speed was where it needed to be. I believe it has something to do with firmware as I get the feeling the updates don’t always go well with some older firmware lingering after the upgrade. Reset seems to clear it out

For the average consumer, Eero is a much better fit though. Sure, if you like to tinker or have one off use cases, Unifi is the much better option, but Eero does a great job of providing a product that just works without ever really needing to touch it. I've had Asus, Netgear, Linksys, TP-Link, Google WiFi, and Eero, but I've had meshing issues with all except for Eero. My current setup is Unifi with Eero in bridge mode.

EERO Mesh and 2 EERO outdoor nodes.

Neither, install a mesh network, I recommend eero lately

Yup. The extra cost is that each device is a full blown WiFi router but can easily switch into a mesh style distributed wireless setup. It'll handle everything. If you can wire them to each other, it's as good as having just one really big/strong WiFi signal. Wire them as physically far apart as you wish to extend the WiFi wherever too. If they aren't wired then just be weary and place the nodes with at least an 80% signal back to the primary node. And look into turning your ATT box WiFi off, and set-up "IP-Passthtough" so the eero is dominant.

So, this is going to be controversial, but despite the fact I have no problems with my Google WiFi mesh (touch wood immediately!), I don't recommend it for people buying mesh today, and if I were to replace my setup today it would be for Eero - it's got so much at this stage it's better to go there instead of Nest.

I would start with the one I had. At home I have an eero mesh in bridge mode, if you want small. You can use just one.

I think Eero would be the most plug and play option. I've used TP-Link and they're decent but unclear political situation / possible ban. Ubiquiti/Unifi if you want to tinker and manage their network remotely (expensive)

Any type of mesh WiFi systems with 3 pods will work wonderful. Most popular is Eero and you don't even need the latest newest generation. Only thing you need to make sure is the base for the mesh has open wired connection for the one wired work computer or that your cable modem has an extra port or more.

Att equipment is utter junk. Eeros will absolutely work better. Like others said if you can wire in as many as possible it will drastically help. Plus eero tech support is pretty good and would help you figure out some dead spots and how to combat them (with more eeros of course 😉) Send that ATT crap back to the peddlers. The only thing their routers are good for is pass through. However I am sure they will remove that feature before long. It's all about the data, and pass through removes a chunk of data for them to access.

Your responses... Why, why do you think this? Why is the Spectrum WiFi pod an extender here?

Not following what you are saying. Anyways... an extender is a combo radio with fronthaul and backhaul in one unit. This is the garbage method to extend coverage for a WiFi network as it will reduce your effective throughput by half (the radio has to talk to the client then talk to the upstream access point it has joined to as a client).  A "mesh" router is when the fronthaul and backhaul radios are on different bands or radios. The Spectrum WiFi pod has WiFi 5 fronthaul (pod to client) and WiFi 6 backhaul (pod to upstream router). This is exactly how Eero works.  Spectrum will have a WiFi 7 router behaving as a mesh unit available as a product in early 2026. The pod will be dropped and performance & coverage will be a massive enhancement. tl;dr - Spectrum WiFi pods and Eero exist in the same product space. The Spectrum WiFi pod is NOT an extender where FH/BH are shared and throughput is reduced by half (what OP was asking).

I agree with you. I have openers on a ubiquity edge router x. And then run a eero mesh from that. Yes my wireless is not openwrt but my dns is. I did a trial 1gbps service from my hfc ISP and found the router could only manage 800mbps.

I agree with you. I have openers on a ubiquity edge router x. And then run a eero mesh from that. Yes my wireless is not openwrt but my dns is. I did a trial 1gbps service from my hfc ISP and found the router could only manage 800mbps.

I use Deco work which is fairly lightweight traffic and eero at home with massive traffic. I haven't maxed out the eeros but haven't put the Decos to that same test. The eeros come back online and reconnect to everything much faster than the Decos. I like eero app way better.

You can upgrade your network to a mesh system something like eero, retrofit an outdoor eero aim it at the guest house and add an eero inside the guest house to have WiFi inside.

Go for a mesh Wi-Fi system like Deco or Eero. Put one in the laundry, one in the office, and use your Ethernet outlets for best speed. Perfect for gaming, streaming, and big households.

I have a eero WiFi mesh and a ubiquity network switch for anything that needs to be wired. I have had the setup for the last 3 years no complaints

I have a eero WiFi mesh and a ubiquity network switch for anything that needs to be wired. I have had the setup for the last 3 years no complaints