ZE3000

I would love to see any regular person tell the difference between aptx and ldac, I had those ze3000 they were great but I found the bass was a bit lacking due to the 6mm driver.. I upgraded to the noble Fokus pro, bass and clarity is alot better but not as reliable in the connection part unfortunately. Enjoy them my dude

I have been using the space travels as my running pair for over two years, lost one and bought another one recently (old space travel 1). I agree with you on ANC, tips, lid, shitty anime sound, volume control, cheap feeling and all of that. I don't get the sound quality and sound stage part. Before buying a second pair of ST, I got a well known tws, final ze3000. I just found them slightly thin for my liking, good build aside on sound I preferred the much cheaper ST. I have expensive wired iems for daily use, and also a bluetooth dac, but sometimes I see myself coming to ST for the stage and overall fun sound. I think you have gotten a bad pair, worth checking it. If not, you just don't like it, which I understand since I hate ie600 despite universal praise. In the end, what matters is whether you enjoy it or not, not others.

I know the newer version of these was just a reskin of an OEM manufacture in China but the original ze3000 right here which are engineered by final themselves are genuinely earbuds I take with me when I can’t use my iems. These to me are my “audiophile” but in a small to carry package, I make music & edit content so if I’m not in an area where I can easily take out my iems & dac, these earbuds take over. I use them in the gym or if I’m out for a run as well

Yeah the bass is lacking but idk to me I love it. When I first tried it at the store it’s like it was calling my name. It wowed me on first listen, then when I tried my sennheiser momentum’s I owned at the time, they sounded muddy & overly bassy in comparison. I tried other earbuds in the store but I just couldn’t stop thinking about the ze3000 so I bought them & have been happy ever since

I see makes sense, I personally use the final audio ze3000 Bluetooth earbuds for that reason. Not the sv version but the original ones that where engineered by final in Japan, the sound is really good, I’d argue better than some iems & as someone who makes music & edits content if I’m in an area where I can’t really use my iems, the ze3000 helps

Similar case now I go for final audio ze3000sv + Cambridge audio a100 both with fusion G tips, and the mic in a100 is far more better than many other tws, and almost cost 200 euros

Final audio ze300 is what I use to sleep or pre sleep and you need a good fit eartips than you may not feel it for long wear😁 and it s not expensive 

I am mainly an iem user, I used to have some "better" tws earbuds while I was curious about if it's ever possible to reach the sound quality of iems. I knew it wasn't a realistic goal but using different tws earbuds was fun anyways and audio gear is my hobby. I bought and sold campfire orbit, devialet gemini 2, final ze2000 & ze3000, hifiman svanar wireless, noble fokus prestige and many others from sennheiser, Sony, creative, technics etc. I am still keeping final ze8000 mk2, bgvp q3 and fiio fw5. ZE3000 sounds nice for the price, size is good, buds are comfortable with good battery life but while acknowledging sound is subjective, I can't say they are the best. I would prefer hifiman svanar wireless Jr​ in the similar price range.