Underscoring this. I have been hand grinding for years for pourover and recently with my MoccaMaster KBGV. It's not sustainable with 5 am wake ups--so now it's the Drip maker for my first cups of the day.
I wanted to do batch grinding and looked at all the contenders including Baratza and Fellow --then I remembered Eureka. I ended up, for my usage case with the Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent. I needed something a bit quieter and had seen this at a friends. I like all the features and versatility and got a good price in the USA.
I can change the burrs if I ever get back into chasing the ultimate Espresso but the burrs in these pourover/drip units make a good enough Espresso and for all my other usages--pourover, drip, MoccaPot, aeropress, frenchpress--good to go.
Longevity wise the Eureka units just go and go. They are in wide use at commercial establishments globally .
I have a Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent grinder. I only can say, if you're a one grinder person it works for Espresso, it works for pourover, it works for drip.
I can't imagine these other grinders wouldn't do the same.
I got an Amazon scale (electric) that does Tare and it is a reliable weight. I tested with clock weights which are very precise (don't ask).
I can't speak ratios on the Moccamaster. I picked up a recipe on many many long term Moccamaster sites that have me doing a 60 grams of ground coffee to 1 liter of water in the reservoir. You can half that . good beans, good grind. Yummy
It's so interesting with the Eureka Mignon series globally. I just ordered the Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent in the USA. It has a larger dial on the machine, no timer ( I don't need one) and is the same motor and housing we all love, plus some easier access for cleaning. I don't have a fancy Espresso machine but I know I can change the burr if I need to at a low coast.
Yes for two reasons. 1) for diehards--you can simply plunk in the Espresso Burr (50mm) for $20-$30 and the machine is the best of both worlds (Espresso and pourover/drip/french press)
2) the existing 50mm burr when set to it's finer settings to finest has been said to do a fine job with Espresso -that would be for folks that are not science precise about their pull.
I have the Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent (EMFS)---It is like the quietest best bang for the buck out there. The silent technology works--I've used the non silent next to this and it's notably quieter. Motor size matches more expensive Mignon grinders and it's got a base mounted on / off switch you don't have to hold. You don't have to push the hopper or dosing cup against a front mount button.
Here's the kicker--I'm very diverse in my coffee---pourover for years, drip (moccamaster), Phin coffee, turkish and French Press--how's that?
I decided on the EMFS--under $300--ships with the filter burrs which work very nicely for Espresso AND you can buy Espresso burrs (OEM) from many places for $30-$40--swap to Espresso burrs ==and those burrs are fine to do double duty for pourover/drip
Eureka are built rock solid--been in business for years.
I would recommend if you get a EMFS--it has a bigger adjustment dial compared to some of there other machines--you have to mentally keep track of where you were, where you're going for settings---Sooooo----I added a third party ARO dial which is incredible--I can see exactly where my varied espresso settings on---turn that dial, I go way up to my coarse settings. Ready for Epresso--back down--easy peasy!
Eureka Mignon Filtro has been great. I have the Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent. It is quiet in the morning. The burrs are designed for folks that do more drip/pourover/aeropress. The burrs also do a good job with Espresso.
Bonus if you get into Espresso, for either model (if you don't want to pay for the quiet feature (it does come with a larger motor matching more expensive Mignon models)--the Eureka Filtro you can change burrs to Espresso burrs.
Ask the internet you'll get 1000 answers.
My take is Eureka Mignon Filtro--designed for drip, pourover, french press and works admirably for Espresso--just fine. Can be had for $175 to $200. If noise is an issue---there's the Filtro Silent model--which does grind quieter. Most Eureka units actually use the same housing and motors as their more expensive models. Easy to service
Got the Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent---doesn't wake anyone when I use it at 5 am. There are a few silent models but this one comes in at about $279---no complaints.
Eureka Mignon Filtro has been great. I have the Eureka Mignon Filtro Silent. It is quiet in the morning. The burrs are designed for folks that do more drip/pourover/aeropress. The burrs also do a good job with Espresso.
Bonus if you get into Espresso, for either model (if you don't want to pay for the quiet feature (it does come with a larger motor matching more expensive Mignon models)--the Eureka Filtro you can change burrs to Espresso burrs.
Ask the internet you'll get 1000 answers.
My take is Eureka Mignon Filtro--designed for drip, pourover, french press and works admirably for Espresso--just fine. Can be had for $175 to $200. If noise is an issue---there's the Filtro Silent model--which does grind quieter. Most Eureka units actually use the same housing and motors as their more expensive models. Easy to service
Your post seems to say you're happy with the coffee you're making. Why solicit the roar of the hive mind?
Great $200 grinder--hey it's posted on here almost weekly if you just hit search on this sub or anywhere else.
Eureka Mignon Filtro---$200. Change burrs if you wish to Espresso Burrs for $30. Burrs it comes with work great too.
To make a long story short: I'm coming from a Bambino and I wanted to step up my game by going straight to the big leagues, having been able to get a good price on the Wendougee Data S. The machine is great.
Regarding grinders, I went from a Eureka Mignon filtro grinder when I was a student, whose burrs I changed to espresso burrs, but I quickly saw its limitations. I switched again when the Mahlkönig X64SD came out; I had an alignment problem that I couldn't solve, and despite all my efforts, I couldn't reproduce the shots from my favorite coffee shop. The Wendougee is set up correctly, the problem is probably with the grinder... So I want to upgrade that one too.
Aside from that, I have a 1zpresso j-ultra, which is nice for darker roast coffee, and I'd like something to deal with some medium/light roasted beans.
What do you recommend? My budget is around €1000. I've considered the DF83, but also all those recent grinders that weigh the coffee for a more pleasant workflow (fiorenzato...) , but on the other hand, there's no way to change the rotation speed... Is that a good compromise?
What about something like the eureka filtro or crono? Both are Designed for filter coffee. Hopper fed. Very reasonable price wise. From a company that has been going for 100 years. Quality. Built like tanks. Will last a lifetime.
The philos is great (I have one myself and use it for espresso ) but you don’t need to spend that much for a filter coffee grinder.
Other benefits : Eurekas are built like tanks. Quality components. Tried and tested longevity. Excellent uniform grind.
DF have known quality control issues and are built cheaply. DF grinders are fairly new so nobody knows how long they’ll last
With you being in Europe where the price is so similar eureka should be a given.
Stateside where Eurekas are much more expensive people tend to go for the DF.
But totally your decision !
I would absolutely look into a eureka
Do not get a DF grinder - for a similar price Eurekas are built a whole lot better, will last longer and produce better grinds. No SSP burrs with eureka but I’d still go with them regardless.
How are you going to steam your milk ?
Make sure you get good (ideally locally ) roasted beans from a speciality roaster. This will make a massive difference to the quality of the espresso (you say that straight espresso is too bitter but I’m sure that’s because ones you’ve tried are dark roasts or non-speciality roasts and /or with robusta beans in the blend. )
Good luck with the decision !
i feel you on the rabbit hole. looked at the OutIn Fino too but it's really built for travel grind quality. for small counter filter coffee, check out the [Wilfa Uniform](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Wilfa+Uniform) - it's got a tiny footprint and amazing burrs for pour over. the [Eureka Mignon Filtro](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Eureka+Mignon+Filtro) is also super compact and made specifically for filter, not espresso. both will run circles around portable grinders at home.
For light roasts yes but coffee overall no. It is better work flow imo. The eureka is good for traditional while the ode shines at light roasts but in a cleaner traditional way. It isn't clarity forward like a zp6 or even the c40. If you are into specialty and light roasts the ode is worth it.
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