To make a long story short: I'm coming from a Bambino and I wanted to step up my game by going straight to the big leagues, having been able to get a good price on the Wendougee Data S. The machine is great.
Regarding grinders, I went from a Eureka Mignon filtro grinder when I was a student, whose burrs I changed to espresso burrs, but I quickly saw its limitations. I switched again when the Mahlkönig X64SD came out; I had an alignment problem that I couldn't solve, and despite all my efforts, I couldn't reproduce the shots from my favorite coffee shop. The Wendougee is set up correctly, the problem is probably with the grinder... So I want to upgrade that one too.
Aside from that, I have a 1zpresso j-ultra, which is nice for darker roast coffee, and I'd like something to deal with some medium/light roasted beans.
What do you recommend? My budget is around €1000. I've considered the DF83, but also all those recent grinders that weigh the coffee for a more pleasant workflow (fiorenzato...) , but on the other hand, there's no way to change the rotation speed... Is that a good compromise?
What about something like the eureka filtro or crono? Both are Designed for filter coffee. Hopper fed. Very reasonable price wise. From a company that has been going for 100 years. Quality. Built like tanks. Will last a lifetime.
The philos is great (I have one myself and use it for espresso ) but you don’t need to spend that much for a filter coffee grinder.
Other benefits : Eurekas are built like tanks. Quality components. Tried and tested longevity. Excellent uniform grind.
DF have known quality control issues and are built cheaply. DF grinders are fairly new so nobody knows how long they’ll last
With you being in Europe where the price is so similar eureka should be a given.
Stateside where Eurekas are much more expensive people tend to go for the DF.
But totally your decision !
I would absolutely look into a eureka
Do not get a DF grinder - for a similar price Eurekas are built a whole lot better, will last longer and produce better grinds. No SSP burrs with eureka but I’d still go with them regardless.
How are you going to steam your milk ?
Make sure you get good (ideally locally ) roasted beans from a speciality roaster. This will make a massive difference to the quality of the espresso (you say that straight espresso is too bitter but I’m sure that’s because ones you’ve tried are dark roasts or non-speciality roasts and /or with robusta beans in the blend. )
Good luck with the decision !
i feel you on the rabbit hole. looked at the OutIn Fino too but it's really built for travel grind quality. for small counter filter coffee, check out the [Wilfa Uniform](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Wilfa+Uniform) - it's got a tiny footprint and amazing burrs for pour over. the [Eureka Mignon Filtro](https://featherab.com/shopit?search_keywords=Eureka+Mignon+Filtro) is also super compact and made specifically for filter, not espresso. both will run circles around portable grinders at home.
For light roasts yes but coffee overall no. It is better work flow imo. The eureka is good for traditional while the ode shines at light roasts but in a cleaner traditional way. It isn't clarity forward like a zp6 or even the c40. If you are into specialty and light roasts the ode is worth it.
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