Profitec - Pro 600

I got 6 y o. Profitec 600. What should I check/ replace/do to make it last

8-10 back to back shots and 5-6 milk drinks once is a while is no problem for an e61. I have done that with a Profitec Pro600 no problem and had 0 problems with consistency. Unless the OP is pulling coffee shop at peak hours volume where puck prep takes less than 30 seconds and is steaming milk and pulling shots at the same time. For home use where each drink takes in the order of minutes to make these machines can handle it.

That's more to do with the Gaggia not having a PID than the dual boiler. I went from a Eureka Specialita and Bambino Plus to a Profitec Pro 600 dual boiler. Yes the consistency and shot quality improved somewhat due to adjustable PID so I could pick different temps and didn't have to temperature surf. When I upgraded the Specialita to a Philos the shot quality and consistency improved drastically. The Philos is a great grinder, rock solid consistent. I could dial in 3 beans at different grind settings and go back and forth and the shots would pull exactly the same. Switch to pour over and espresso and get exactly the same results at the exact grind setting. I logged every single shot with it on Beanconqueor using a group head pressure gauge and BT scale with flow rate. So it wasn't just in cup but also shot data telemetry that I could double check. I am not saying going from an entry level to a higher quality espresso machine won't make a difference. The difference will be a lot bigger with a better made grinder and burr combo. If you want to play go get a 1Zpresso K-Ultra or J series hand grinder and compare it to your Sette.

Buy what you want if you can afford it. I tried to play it safe not knowing if I would get into this hobby or get frustrated and quit. I started with a Bambino Plus in December 24th 2024. A month later I bought a Profitec Pro 600 and this October got a Decent. I wanted to go straight from the bambino to decent but was not sure I wanted to spend the extra. I also went from a Eureka Specialita -> Mazzer Philos to a Kafatek SDRM. One piece of advice don’t skimp on the grinder. I saw below you have your heart set on the Eureka Libra. If you have your heart set on grid by weight get a better version of grind by weight than the Libra. After all the upgrades I am finally at place where I am not FOMOing gear. The cost of reassuring my self that I would stick with this for the long hauls was about $1500 in losses from reselling older gear. So if you can afford it get the one you really want right off the bat and don’t think twice.

Yeah this is probably the answer. We upgraded to a Profitec Pro 600 after our Breville dual boiler died. I couldn’t steam oat milk to save my life on the Breville. The Profitec makes a great oat latte. Steam pressure is so much better with a better machine

I wish my profitec 600 had a simple switch for the steam boiler. I only make milk drinks on the weekend. And to turn off the steam boiler, you have to hit some finicky buttons and cycle through settings.

We bought a Profitec Pro 600 and DF64. First setup. Super happy with them.

I have a Profitec 600 and love being able to steam milk and pull back to back shots concurrently. Let’s me make our coffees every morning quickly as we are getting ready to head out the door.

I had this same set-up and upgraded the espresso machine to a Profitec Pro 600 and I’m glad that I did. While the Sette is a noisy grinder and there are certainly better products, it certainly does the job. The change between the GCP and the Profitec was profound. My workflow is faster. Steaming is more powerful and effective. The double boilers allow you to draw a shot and immediately steam milk. You can quickly make one drink after another. There is even a hot water want that is perfect for making americanos, tea or soup. We leave our Profitec on all day, while the GCP was only infrequently used.

Have you considered second hand? A while ago my budget was similar to yours, which does put you a bit in no man’s land. The £800-1000 range lack features that you may want, whilst the machines with features you want cost more than your budget. On some uk coffee forums there often some pretty good second hand machines that can be found if you are patient. It took me about 5-6 months to find and win the auction for a machine that I was happy with; for the price I was willing to pay (Profitec 600). I was happily to wait with my Gaggia classic while I patiently waited. Whilst I was waiting I was tempted by the Arkel Coast (available of Bella Barista). It’s a bit more expensive than your budget and has sadly increased in cost now. The other thing is that once you upgrade your espresso machine you’ll want to upgrade the grinder! I agree with you than the ECM Classika is too expensive for what you get. But when second hand, it becomes a bit more attractive.

That’s really similar to my seconds setup. I’ve purchased second hand both a 1991 La Pavoni and a Profitec Pro 600. Both looked and worked almost new when I bought them except needing a bit of lubricant and a bit of wear on the on the Profitec’s drip tray. It pays to be patient!

I use my 600 just about everyday. I’ve got it on a smart switch so that it is warmed up in advance; so on workday mornings, it’s just easy to get a great no milk espresso out, especially if the beans are at least light medium roast. I use the La Pavoni occasionally on weekends when I want to work for it:) From most reports, it doesn’t sound like the Olympia Cremina offers a great deal more than the La Pavoni, but I guess in espresso it’s all about increments. I’m hoping that the Meticulous becomes a viable mass commercial product, at which point I may buy new! But I’m not holding my breath on that because my current setup works so well. The other option is to go the other way and get a Cafelat robot.

Save you money and buy a Profitec Pro 600 and live happily ever after.

https://preview.redd.it/vnjpo5m1vsag1.jpeg?width=3190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1101be0d10e72e9debcdd70a5e30f9a3b03a60e8 The Profitec is an amazing machine. With your budget go up to the Pro 600 like I got. It can easily handle back to back drinks both brewing and steaming. Extremely fast recovery. I LOVE mine. Had it for over 2 years now, zero issues from it

If you’re a latte drinker, I actually think you’re making compromises with a HX machine. This style of machine is called ‘E61’ and they all look similar. I think many would argue the quality of grinder is more important than the machine when it comes to espresso taste, but this is less important if you’re just milking milk drinks. What is a difference maker for lattes is the workflow. A single boiler relies on a single boiler for your espresso shot and then needs to heat up to steam your milk. A heat exchanger is much faster but makes compromises is heat stability to be able to brew and steam in quick succession, but doesn’t really become a problem until you start making several drinks at once. A dual boiler like the Profitec Pro 600 solves this problem. It’s an e61 style machine with two separate steam and brew boilers and heats up fast. I’m fairly sure this now dated machine can be had for the same price as an Apartamento (do all of these even have adjustable brew temp now)?

If you’re a latte drinker, I actually think you’re making compromises with a HX machine. This style of machine is called ‘E61’ and they all look similar. I think many would argue the quality of grinder is more important than the machine when it comes to espresso taste, but this is less important if you’re just milking milk drinks. What is a difference maker for lattes is the workflow. A single boiler relies on a single boiler for your espresso shot and then needs to heat up to steam your milk. A heat exchanger is much faster but makes compromises is heat stability to be able to brew and steam in quick succession, but doesn’t really become a problem until you start making several drinks at once. A dual boiler like the Profitec Pro 600 solves this problem. It’s an e61 style machine with two separate steam and brew boilers and heats up fast. I’m fairly sure this now dated machine can be had for the same price as an Apartamento (do all of these even have adjustable brew temp now)?