Flair Espresso
Flair 58 Plus 2

Flair Espresso
Flair Espresso

Flair Espresso

I've quite enjoyed my Flair 58, and using the NanoFoamer for lattes (https://subminimal.com/products/nanofoamer) Quite the learning curve, but lots of control, easily competes with machines much much more expensive than it like you said.
A manual lever is like driving a stick vs an automatic car. The lever gives you all the control and the best shots I’ve ever had are with profiles only possible on a lever (or very expensive computerized machines). If you are a little adventurous go with a lever machine. Starting with a Flair/Cafelot/LaPavoni/Odyssey will let you learn a lot and make unbeatable extractions. If you don’t need to steam milk then a Flair58 is an excellent choice (I love mine!) and no temperature management like an LP. If a steam wand is important then LaPavoni or Odyssey Argos. If you just want you push a button and get a decent shot easy, then Bambino is for you. And don’t forget there is no good shot without a good grinder.
Go with a Flair58+2 and an 1Zpresso J-Ultra. 😎👍 Total control and excellent results, plus you learn a lot more. You’ll need a Nanofoamer for milk though.
Flair 58+2 and a good kettle. I just saved you $1000 and if you have a good grinder your back in the high 90’s. 😎💪
I ordered an Odyssey Argos spring lever at the top end of your budget. I’d recommend a Flair58+2, good kettle and a Nanofoamer (if you like milk drinks). Then spend the rest on the best grinder you can afford. You will get unbeatable shots and learn a lot.
If steaming isn’t a priority then I’d get a Flair58+2. You can’t pull a better shot. Control everything (temp, flow control, and pressure profile), efficient, fast, and it’s as durable as you can get. (Around $600)
Go with a Flair 58 you don’t want milk drinks and only care about straight shots Go with a Gaggia Classic if you want milk drinks. Just for the love of god stay away from the cheap DeLonghi stuff (see flair) Also tell your dog s/he’s the bestest boy/girl
Don't push your hobbies/interests onto others unless they have a genuine interest in it man. The setup you listed isn't for casual coffee drinkers, its gonna be time consuming and a workout. I make my wife nice latte or espresso on the weekend because while she enjoys it, she doesn't want to take time in the morning using a Mazzer Philos and Flair 58 Plus 2 for her daily coffee as its a process. She'd rather push a few buttons and have her morning coffee ready to go quickly without thinking about grind size, puck prep, weighing, etc. Just let her get a Nespresso and enjoy that; I still enjoy a Nespresso coffee here and there when I'm at a friend's house, its not the end of the world.
I love my flair58. Been using it for years, no maintenance needed, still pulls classic shots, fully adjustable profile with your hand
Oh mine comes with an electrical heater, probably takes 5~10, but usually its good enough when I am done with puck prep and such
Bei mir waren es beim letzten zählen 8 mokka Kannen, Flair 58+2, 9barista mk2 pro und demnächst kommt noch eine ecm mechanika max dazu für morgends wenn ich arbeiten muss. Eine elektrische und 2 handmühlen, gefolgt von zahlreichen Zubehör wie 4 Waagen , 5 tamper, nivellierer, wdt toll etc.
Ich habe unter anderem eine Flair 58, damit kann man tollen Kaffee machen, die brühung ist verzeihen gegenüber einer mühle da ich den Druck bestimmen, nur morgends wenn es schnell gehen muß benutze ich meine bialetti Kannen oder den 9barista. Wirklich gute Maschinen beginnen mit mühle bei etwa 2500 von renommierten Herstellern nach oben keine Grenze, der Witz ist , die guten wollen den handhebler nachahmen und das macht sie so preis intensiv, die billigen sind nach 2 bis 3 jahren tot und werden nicht repariert. So sehe ich das

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Bambino Plus
Fast heat-up, easy for beginners; inconsistent shots, annoying cleaning.

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Robot Series
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Mod-friendly workhorse, great espresso with mods; weak steam, poor temp.

Lelit
Bianca
Precise flow control, dual boiler; long heat-up, average build quality.

DeLonghi
Stilosa Series
Budget-friendly, moddable; flimsy build, needs upgrades for good espresso.

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