Garmin - Forerunner 245 Music

I really recommend the Forerunner 245 Music! I had it for a good 2 years (before upgrading to the F965 as I started getting into Ultra running and needed a lot of battery life) and I found the F245 lasted me around 4-5 each charge while doing 1-3 hours of activity each day. Good battery life, great simple watch for both running and lifting. Isn't super expensive and doesn't have tons of extra random features that you won't use. It was really great for me

Seconded. I have the music version so I don't have to carry my phone on short runs.

I wear my Garmin 245 Music for working out and running, otherwise it’s my Explorer for everything else life has for me.

I use a 245 music for biking, running, weights and swimming. It's great. Has more than enough features, and only needs to be charged every week or two. GPs is fine. HR is fine, though I use a hr chest strap, as they are more accurate. Even without the strap, though, the watch did a good job.

Been very happy with my Forerunner 245 Music - though I rarely play music through the watch since I carry my iPhone for live tracking anyway. It’s only a few dollars more or less, but if you’re gonna carry another device, you could do without the music part of a 255 forerunner

Garmin Forerunner 245 Music, so I don’t have to have my phone with me to play music. I don’t track anything, but it’s neat to see the metrics of my run. I don’t track for lifting, seems pointless.

I second this. I have a 245 music and it is a game changer. So easy to grab watch, shoes, headphones and go.

I use a Garmin 245 music and it works good. The Garmin connect app links with my fitnesspal

I have a garmin 245 and am happy with it. If you want it for hiking I would get the one with an altimeter. When I upgrade I’m going to make sure it has it. To select, go through the versions and see what features you want, you don’t need the fanciest one. I do bring a battery to recharge on multi day hikes and don’t use my gps on them.

I switched 6 years ago, and since then I’ve used the Garmin Forerunner 245 Music, Fenix 6X, and most recently, the Fenix 8. Garmin is really good at heart rate measurements, and its GPS accuracy is excellent — you never have any issues with it. And battery life was also the main reason I switched from the Apple Watch. The Apple Watch is fine for walking, but for other workouts and sports, you’ll have to switch it. I’m sure you’ll be happy once you switch to Garmin. Kind regards,

Agree, I have a forerunner 245 and it does what I need it to do. All the different stats are fun to begin with, but imo there are so many unnecessary features on these watches. Maybe it’s just me

I’ve had a 245 music for 5 years now. Still working just fine. I’ll replace it when it stops working. I imagine the 255 will be just fine most people

200 series will I can confirm. I have a garmin 245 music

My 245 music has lasted me since 2016 without issues. Takes ~15 mins to charge 0-100 and 3 runs to use 100% of charge. Great as a grab & go watch as I can charge it in the car and have enough battery for the whole run. This watch will struggle with battery on anything 50mi+ though

Really any of the Garmin Forerunner 200-series watches, so even used ones can work out well so: Garmin Forerunner 245, Garmin Forerunner 245 Music, Garmin Forerunner 255, Garmin Forerunner 265 There isn't a huge difference in features for these watches so the biggest factor is your budget. I think some of the newer ones have newer display, maybe slightly better battery life, etc. but for the activity tracking they are all pretty much the same and cover the areas you are looking for.

Really any of the Garmin Forerunner 200-series watches, so even used ones can work out well so: Garmin Forerunner 245, Garmin Forerunner 245 Music, Garmin Forerunner 255, Garmin Forerunner 265 There isn't a huge difference in features for these watches so the biggest factor is your budget. I think some of the newer ones have newer display, maybe slightly better battery life, etc. but for the activity tracking they are all pretty much the same and cover the areas you are looking for.

If you listen to music the Garmin 245 MUSIC is awesome. Tracks everytplus you can download your music apps to the watch so you don't have to carry your phone.

It just expands on so many data points that I wasn't getting with my forerunner. Granted, I had the fr245m. So an older watch. And I did really love it, but I love that the fenix 8 has upgraded sensors, the interface is really nice, has a flashlight, mic, touch screen that can be turned on or off, the sapphire glass is super awesome, no more dealing with cracked glass protectors lol. I personally do enjoy the amoled more than mip, but im fine with either. I love all the different map capabilities, the fishing predictor for best times, the different moon phases, etc etc. So many different activity options, its almost ridiculous lol! That said, im sure newer Forerunners are awesome and have a lot of capabilities. The fenix is just the premium of all of that I think (based on price at least, ouch). I do primarily run but I also enjoy other stuff.

245 music had it for 5 years. Just upgraded to 255 music. Both great!

I got the forerunner 245 music second hand on ebay for £100ish over a year ago, it would be cheaper now. Love it.

I have the 255 Music model... can hold around 500 odd songs. But i think the 245 also has a music model. they have 255 and 255M Into Chatgpt put in something like this. "Give me best value for money model of Garmin watch for running that also holds music on the watch"

I love every Garmin I've owned for the past 13-ish years (3). I had the 235, 245m, and now the 255s. I only replaced the 235 because it quit holding juice for a long run after 7 years or so, and the 245 after it got lost in a field (not garmin's fault: husband put it in a pants pocket with a gaping hole 😂) At that point, a new 255s was the same price I originally paid for the 245m, so... Garmins have far more data than you need, even if some of it is a bit dopey (if I'm reading before bed, it'll count that lack of movement as sleep; it will tell me my exercise load is too much and then suggest an 105 minute run, etc), but it also updates daily suggested workouts based on sleep, exercise load, and hrv. I like the coaches, but I like the dsw more. I race on my own time, so I'm not going for peak performance. Just completion, pushing myself, and having a bit of fun. I actually don't really understand hrv, but it typically goes low for a few days and then I get sick. So even if I feel fine but see low HR, I rest up. Does it help? I don't know. I still end up sick😂 Fwiw, I had a Fitbit between Garmins 1 and 2 and wasn't a fan. They're a bit of an investment, but if the data will keep you engaged and excited about running and you're not the type of person who has to have THE NEWEST PHONE, and a couple-years-old model will do you just fine and not break the bank.

Love my Garmin forerunner 245 music. Dunno what the latest update is though Garmin are nice cuz the physical buttons work well when you're swimming, unlike touch screens

I went the same route as you.. Galaxy Watch 3 owner. Bought a FR45 on special and then upgraded it to a FR245m on sale. The entry level Forerunners that have succeeded the 45 have bridged the gap between those two models, so 'entry' level is more than entry once was. Keep an eye out on 200 series watches on special, but a 100 series would be a good choice. Don't expect it to be as smart watchish as a Galaxy, but they will do all the basic notifications and calendar/stop watch functions..

I like the idea of a Venu 4. I currently wear a Forerunner 245 for all my metrics, and Galaxy Watch 3 for phone notifications during the morning on work days. My main 'smart watch' interest is... does the watch audibly ring when my phone rings in Bluetooth range, so I can get to my phone and answer it and/or ring the person back. I don't care so much about answering the call, or replying to text/fb messenger on the watch... I just want to know something is incoming. And.. as a Forerunner owner, will losing all those buttons bother me. I'm kind of used to all the information the 245 provides me, so it would bother me probably dropping back to a Venu 3, but a Venu 4 does 99% of what the Forerunner 570 does, but you have to use the swipe screen because you don't have the buttons.. My running is down to 3 or 4 20-30 minute, 3km runs a week.. all easy pace, so I'm not doing different Interval training runs, or Threshold runs etc.. I'd like to think that touch once to start a run, and touch twice to end a run is all I would really need..

I just upgraded from the 245M to the 255M. You can get them for a great price and it covers everything I need (and then some) for running. Big upgrade over the 245. Personally I couldn't justify going higher up the forerunner food chain.

I am also using an AMOLED (epix pro gen 2), which replaced a fr245.  I had a tough time in some scenarios with the MIPS display, such as on shaded trails and around subset (both common in my users). In these cases I am happier with the AMOLED. 

I have been using forerunners (245 and 255) for some years and they're pretty accurate. You still need to manually enable drill mode but it's almost perfect for the basic strokes. By the way, it's worth noting that how it detects styles depends also on your technique.

BUTTONS I had a 245 that broke a couple years back, and while I waited to get a new one I borrowed my wife's old apple watch, and hated every minute of using it due to the touch screen for everything interface. Now I've got a nice sleek 965 my dad gifted me last year and it's so nice. Love the AMOLED screen.

I have the 245 and 265. I actually like the touch screen when scrolling my data versus the buttons. Especially when looking at the morning report. Very convenient when scrolling. I was hesitant to get the 265 back then but happy i did. Love the screen. Very bright. My next one will definitely the 970. I love the flashlight, sapphire and titanium features.

Garmin foreunner 245 has been a real joy for years now. zero complaints

My forerunner 245 is still going strong 5 years in. It occasionally confuses a rest for a lap when i dont tell it I'm resting. Otherwise it's great.

I have a garmin Forerunner 245 and its really great, try looking for a similar watch used

I use an old Forerunner 245 as I got it for running and I can listen to music without having to take my phone. It does the job for crossfit. I record it as either Strength or Cardio. Or if it's a running WOD, then Workout (tracks distance). It just depends on your budget and personal preferences with aesthetics and fit.

I have a FR 245 with Music. It does what I need it to do. It can be a bit judgemental if I have a rest day and/or go for a walk (I have been knocked down from Productive to Recovery - so audacious). I like not having to take my phone with me, especially if it's raining.

i own fenix 7pro solar. Best watch ever(literally), will not replace it at least 5 more years. I do hiking/climbing/road cycling except for running tho. I do actually train for a marathon in April rn, Forerunner 245 is you best choice if you don't need mountain oriented features and other stuff. What's so great about garmin watch. I track quite accurate my surfing activities, skiing, have always great navigation out in the wild, satellite messaging features, great battery capacity, great water pressure resistance(up to 100m). What else do i need, i ask myself. But in reality, only for running you don't need much. You basically need only HR tracker and gps device to track the pace and distance. So any watch is fine

What are the current MIP models? I’m having a hard time finding this info. I have a 245 that I’m very reluctant to let go of. I can’t have a glowing watch for my job. Also, I’m not super impressed with AMOLED

Swimming on the Active 2 is not good. It does not have a proper rest mode and suffers the same fate of the screen needing to be "active" for the physical buttons to function as expected. If you're doing a single non-stop casual swim, it will track stroke/swolf fine, but if you do any kind of interval workout, it will add a bunch of distance and you'll end up with very inaccurate data. Assuming the Vivoactive is similar to how my Fenix 5+, Forerunner 245 and Forerunner 955 all were, it has proper rest modes, interval support, countdowns for starting intervals etc.

I first bought the FR265s because I have very small wrists. After a few months I bought the FR265. Yes, it's a bit big on my wrist (left wrist smaller than right wrist) but I can read it better. The 265s display was too small for me, even if I had my new glasses that time. There is really a difference between the 2.54mm larger screen of my FR245.

Older Garmin watches work fine, I regularly see runners with the 2015 Forerunner 235 at races. And used models will be fine, albeit older watches may have reduced battery life simply due to age. That’s the nature of rechargeable batteries I’m afraid, and it applies to all brands. I would recommend a Forerunner 45 as the minimum, or a 55, and if you can get a 245 in budget then even better Whichever watch you choose, go to [DC Rainmaker](https://www.dcrainmaker.com/) and search for his in-depth review of that model which typically includes a video. They will tell you all about the functions, how to use it, what it can do etc.

I regularly see runners using the Forerunner 235 at races, and that watch came out in 2015 Until recently I had a Forerunner 245 that I had bought 4-and-a-half years ago. I upgraded to a 965 because I wanted to treat myself to a new watch with some new features, but my 245 was like new and would have easily lasted another 5+ years. As ever with a technology, how you look after it is a big factor. But Garmins do last a long time.

> Every Garmin should match your needs I'm not being picky here, but that's not true 245 does not support multisport mode Only 945 series and newer (and Fenix) support maps

Garmin Forerunner 245. I like it, it works well for running, mountain biking, and canoeing.

This is true, mostly, but the deciding factor for me upgrading from the 245 (I know this is not the same watch you mention but still more or less the same) to the 965 was maps. And maps are also the reason I chose AMOLED over MIP (which I do also like). OP, if you don't want maps this post is a very strong argument. Edit: just noticed this is 3d old, but that's the Reddit algorithm...

Edit: why not change the battery of your AW7? Shouldn’t be too expensive normally, and that may help you run the 15k distance without running out of battery. It should still be supported for a few years, so it won’t be obsolete immediately. The FR55,165 and 255 won’t receive any updates anymore, except maybe a bug fix, but don’t expect new features like Apple may still add to WatchOS. I won’t recommend you to get the FR55, it’s just too old and expensive for what it is. Try to look for a 165 or 255, they are more recent and/or have some extra features and better gps (255). https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/s/PoeYUQKgTm And between Garmin and Amazfit, ask yourself if you want a no nonsense running watch or a watch with lots of gadgets and features, which may not all work well or be useful? They’re just 2 different types of watches. Personally I’m still using my FR245 that I got in December 2021, and it’s still working great. I’d love to upgrade, but the most recent version of it, the 570, is just soooooooo overpriced. And I secretly also prefer MiP instead of OLED. 😀

Honestly? Not worth it. It uses the gps of your phone, and then you’re better off using your phone with a cheap Bluetooth chest strap heart rate monitor. I do recommend you to slightly stretch your budget for a Vivoactive 5, Forerunner 165 or 255. They’re a bit more expensive, but still under $300. Maybe you can find a good deal secondhand. I’m still using my Forerunner 245 after 4 years and it’s still a solid watch for my running (5-10km).

A valid alternative to trex 3 pro? I have Garmin 245 and it still works..but I'd like to change it to something that can last around 5 years

The 245 runner works just fine for me for all these use cases, and additionally for hiking and swimming as well.

I've had the 245 for about four years and recently just got a replacement refurbished one from Garmin after I broke the strap lugs, so committed to it again for a few years. I'd recommend it as a good smartwatch for running and other activity. I track weights, netball, swimming and hiking as well as running and cycling. I've not used the workout section that much but know it's there and it looks good. It's still a fairly straightforward watch (no touchscreen, no sleep scores) and some of the stuff I've seen on more recent models does look good but I wonder how much I would actually use them. You can always be upsold on the next incremental improvement but the 245 does hit most boxes for me.

My 235 and 245 still lasts 6-8 days

I love my Garmin Forerunner 245. Only time I've ever had a sync issue is when the servers themselves were down. The free running coaches got me into running consistently now.

Had an Apple watch for many years and then I decided to take running serious. Just as that happened my Apple Watch broke so I decided to get a garmin thinking I’ll only wear it to run. Once I saw all the data I could collect by wearing it all the time the watch has not left my wrist. Now I can’t stop tracking sleep and all that other good stuff lol. I run 5-6 days a week and charge it once a week to top off. Apple Watch was getting charged every night. Started with the 245 and upgraded to the 965.

Because the 245 came out over six years ago. This list is supposedly from this past year. Not only is it harder to get, as an owner of a 245, I wouldn't recommend it almost only because it suffers from a known dead-pixels issue (gone through multiple 245 watches with that problem). The 265s not only doesn't have that issue, but it has improved hardware. I'd get the 265s on the improved GPS alone if I were getting a watch today, and I just went through this decision process with a friend who ended up choosing a 265s.

I think Cadence lock shouldn't be a thing at all :-). But i got it with my old 245 and now with my 255 as well. Not that often, but can still happen. I use an HR Monitor anyway so that should be solved. Also it's interesting that wearing a nylon strap reduces issues with heart rate monitoring on the watch a lot compared to the silicon strap

I had a 610 years ago and a 700-series a different time. Might be getting it backwards. I think there's always been a 900-series? The intermediate models tend to wander, though I think they've usually had a 200-series as well. I had a 230 for a while and I know there was a 245, 255 and 265, so it was a reasonable assumption that there'd be a 270. DC Rainmaker kind of hated the 165 and 265. Like his reviews really read like he thought we should get Instincts instead. He's also been talking about how Garmin is maybe trying to rationalize their line. So maybe now it's Lifestyle watches -> Instinct -> FR 570 -> FR 970 -> Fenix -> higher-end Fenix variants. I dunno... I was really waiting for this because I wanted to at least wait a generation before replacing my 165. But the price hike in the 970 is kind of a shock. Maybe I'll do a 965 in a bit, now that there's something to make it last year's model. Now that I have AMOLED I don't really want to go back, especially if part of my deal is wanting maps.

Sure if it's cheap. The 245 got some legitimately cool new features. I don't think the following generations have, though sometimes there's more incremental stuff. Also, Garmin has pulled support for the 235 but that doesn't mean it will have stopped working.

I have both the 55 and 245 and highly recommend the 245. Even though the watch is the same size, the bezel on the 245 is slightly smaller making the screen slightly larger and easier to read. There are some minor activities differences and the data screens are more descriptive on the 245. 245 also has a pulse oximeter if sleep tracking is important to you. Both watches are fantastic, but the 245 is slightly ahead. Happy tracking!

**Do all Garmins do these things?** Most do. **Should I grab a second hand older model? Or did I need a specific newer model to do all of these things?** What you mentioned should work on second hand models. BUT I suggest you pick a model that has the latest heart rate sensor (V5) for better heart rate accuracy. And if you can afford a model that has multi band GPS if possible, this makes the GPS much more accurate. [https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=9NWiPDU4gM0JWMfdWFol7A](https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=9NWiPDU4gM0JWMfdWFol7A) Here is a list of new watches with Multi Band GPS (price starts at $400): [https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/sports-fitness/running-smartwatches/?FILTER\_FEATURE\_SUBTRACKING\_CONNECTIVITY=multibandGPS¤tPage=1&sorter=price-asc](https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/sports-fitness/running-smartwatches/?FILTER_FEATURE_SUBTRACKING_CONNECTIVITY=multibandGPS¤tPage=1&sorter=price-asc) To research watches, I do recommend you check out [https://www.dcrainmaker.com/](https://www.dcrainmaker.com/), he has wonderful reviews and videos, very in depth. **Watch recommendations** Since you mentioned you are running. I would suggest a watch that has "Training status". Basically it keeps track of your workouts, and suggest more workouts to you. As a runner I love it. Now it is a bit more expensive, the new watches that have this can be found here: [https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/sports-fitness/running-smartwatches/?FILTER\_FEATURE\_SUBTRACKING\_RUNNING\_TRAINING=trainingstatus¤tPage=1&sorter=price-asc](https://www.garmin.com/en-US/c/sports-fitness/running-smartwatches/?FILTER_FEATURE_SUBTRACKING_RUNNING_TRAINING=trainingstatus¤tPage=1&sorter=price-asc) But you also have some older models if you buy used, such as Fenix 5 & up, Forerunner 245 & up, Forerunner 745, Forerunner 935 & up.

I went from a 45 to a 245 to now the 955. I love the 955. I did wait until it went on sale for $350usd.

I have a Garmin 245 and I'll probably be buried with it, the newer ones are hilariously expensive and don't offer much that really matters. I tried a Fenix 7s and it couldn't even play bluetooth consistently, they stuffed too much useless crap into it

I had an Apple Watch Series 5 and it was good at distance but very patchy at stroke detection (my form isn’t that bad!). Switched to a Garmin 245 4 years ago and it was much better at stroke detection. Distance is fine with the occasional missed lap but that also happened with the AW for me. I now use a Fénix 7S and I like it a lot. I really like the ability to push structured workouts to it. That was not doable with the AW. The system for logging drills is a little cumbersome but you get used to it. The missed laps problem has been reduced for me. Now I find that if I keep swimming it catches up eventually most of the time. (Of course newer AWs may have improved too.) Good luck!

I’ve been using a Garmin Forerunner 245 for about two years now. Picked it up for around $225 if memory serves me right. Great little watch.

I've previously had various Fitbit Charge series fitness trackers and they were ok, it took about a month to get used to wearing one before I could keep it on 24/7. I've now got a Garmin Forerunner 245 that I got when I got really into running a few years ago as it has lots more useful features for that than any of the Fitbits. Generally the Garmin feels like a more grown up version of a fitness trackers, but it really depends on what you want to use it for. If I were to get another fitness trackers I'd definitely go for a Garmin again, I've no desire to return to Fitbit.

Also have a 245. Ended up getting it replaced for free a year or two ago when the original froze during a software update. Garmin support was awesome. Walked me through the troubleshooting steps, then when it didn't work, asked if I wanted to do free ground shipping, or pay extra for expedited shipping. I was in shock. I had owned it for like 4 years at that point and it was way beyond warranty, but they still warranty exchanged it. Bonus was the battery life on the old watch was definitely lower than it had been, and the new watch came with a fresh battery. I was totally ready to drop $450 on a new 255/265

I’d go with the **Forerunner 165** ,it has better sensors, solid sleep and health tracking, and supports readiness and guided workouts. The **245** is still good but discontinued, so future updates might stop soon. The **55** is fine for basics, but the 165 gives you a noticeable upgrade without unnecessary extras like music

Don’t buy a apple or samsung smartwatch. Any of your selected options is much better than a smartwatch. I have a forerunner 245 that I bought in 2019, and I love it. It genuinely helped me run a marathon, and I was trying to do 5k when I first got it. Garmin has a running plan and coaches that you can apply in your runs. Im sure others have this too, but I think only garmin can measure VO2max

I think the 970 has the new HR sensor, but not sure if it will be better for tattoos. I have a 245 and it won't work on my left wrist, sorta sometimes works on my right. Always just wear the HR strap, but tempted to get the 970 and the new HR strap.

I had forerunner 245 and used it for running and swimming. It was great, but I fell and trashed it. Had forruner 165 but didn't get training readiness so I upgraded to forruner 265 and happy with my choice. Ony downside with forruner 245 is that it didn't have hrv stats.

Garmin 245. Not a smart watch, but if you want to can pair it with your phone to view messages. It looks and feels like a normal watch. Pairs with their app or Strava. Tracks and records everything you want. It will track for nearly 12 hours. Tells you distance, vertical gain, calories, heart rate. Just plain works.

Due to the huge black bezel(?) I just can't switch to 955 from 245. It just fell like a step back :( I'm still waiting with hope for 975/275 MIP version. And in that point of my training. I really need only one more thing from what I already have: HR strap, resting HR, body battery, and missing barometer for elevation tracking.

As mentioned already, disabling the auto-interval feature is, in my opinion, essential for accurate swim tracking. I’ve swum with the Garmin Forerunner 245, then the Swim 2, switched to the Apple Watch, and now I’m back to the Garmin Epix Pro. All of them seem to struggle a bit with auto-interval detection, but aside from that, I’ve never had any major issues with tracking swim styles, laps, distance, or heart rate. Occasionally they might miss a lap or two, but nothing worth stressing over. Also, as far as I know, most indoor swim trackers rely on the push-off from the wall to mark the end and start of a lap (outdoor swims use GPS). So it’s possible your push-off isn’t strong or consistent enough to register properly.

I had a Garmin Forerunner 245 and was very happy with it. A first I dived into all the metrics, but then I discovered they are really only at best estimates, at worst plain wrong. In the end I just use it for time, GPS and Heart Rate, and ignore all Garmins opaque algorithms for the likes of VO2Max, Training Readiness, Sleep scores etc. Then my Garmin Forerunner started un-pairing from my Samsung A34 despite everything being on the latest software. Its now pretty unusable. So I looked for a Garmin replacement and was shocked at the prices. Garmin have basically priced me out. I ended up buying an Amazfit T-Rex 3 for around around 220 USD in a sale. GPS and HR are just as accurate as Garmin, and it has a much smoother and intuitive interface. Amazfit Zepp app is not better than Garmin Connect, but then again its not really worse, just different in terms of things that do not work, or are buggy. Both companies really need to improve their software. So I would say its worth looking around at alternatives to Garmin especially if you are on a budget.

Used Forerunner 55 is pretty much you answer. If you can find a used 245 for around the same price you can go the route too.

I have a garmin forerunner 245 which does the trick but would be a hazard to check on the wrist. So I bought a used Garmin Edge 520+ years ago and it's been great.   Interface is a bit clunky and slow but you tend to watch one screen, so not a big issue. A dedicated computer and out front mount is best.   Garmin, wahoo, hammerhead are the big 3 but expensive. Cheaper alternatives available from Bryton, Magene, igpsport. Eg, you might look at igpsport bsc200 for budget or there higher end models for more features.

I really like my garmin forerunner 245, my husband has the model up. We have both been using them for over 2 years, and are eagerly waiting to destroy the watches so we can upgrade to fenix.

245 Here! Still going strong, was looking to upgrade but didn’t see a reason to once I started to realize that I get all the data I need.

Also chiming in in favor of forerunner 245, but would strongly advise consideration of a basic biking computer as well (I have garmin edge but have heard good things about most major vendors) if wanting to navigate while cycling (can use wrist broadcast heart rate from watch to computer if desired).

For anyone coming to this thread later (looks like OP made decision already): I've found that the fenix 6 pro solar does an inferior job with gps accuracy while running on roads and has a track mode that is notably less precise than my forerunner 245. Very disappointing. Fenix has been good for navigating trail runs and not needing to rely on 3rd party apps for winter sports, OWS, and triathlon modes, but the difference in utility and performanc between the two is lacking in many respects.

Fourrunner 245 and a garmin 540 for computer. Perfect combo. I grabbed my watch for 80 off marketplace and 200 for the bike computer

I have a Forerunner 245 that I got second hand. The main reason was so I can listen to music while running without bringing my phone. The health metrics etc are more than enough for me to keep track my progress. 

When I started this sport 5 yr ago, I was in the same spot. I picked the Garmin Forerunner 245 but found the screen to dim. I upgraded to the 255 and happy with that. I wouldn't get the version with the Spotify option as I ended up never using it. Never as I always had my phone and Shokz.

Average runner(64) here. I use both, started with Apple Watch then got Garmin 245 to try it. Apple Watch is easier, stays paired to my iPhone and all, but I run with playlists on the Apple Watch and get into a power rundown on long runs. I added the Garmin as a backup tracker. I like it and the long battery life, but since I don’t wear it all the time, it unpairs and is a hassle to re-pair it. So, wear Apple Watch all day and run with both.

Garmin forerunner 245. I can go easily a week without charging it, and that’s with doing 4-6 runs per week. My husband has a new apple watch and basically has to charge it every single day, which would honestly drive me mad. I chose the 245 because of the battery and it also has buttons instead of a touch screen, which makes it easy for me to use while running.

My Garmin Forerunner 245 is great. I’ve had it 4+ years and works just as well as the day I got it!

Amen, I’ve had the 245 since 2020 as well and just haven’t been convinced the 965 warrants spending the $s. I run 50 kms a week and ride occasionally, 245 still caters for that perfectly

Some from IT here. These things are not semi random - obviously off by a good amount if you do non-walking activities but they still track very well how active one is. As long as you're not the driver of an old bus with a broken suspension, they will do a good job. This kind of data can be used really well for indoor navigation, without any help of GPS, only relying on cheap sensors. But I agree fully with your claim that smart watches are not BIFL. Sooner or later software support will run out and you won't be able to connect it again with your non-BIFL smart phone. OP will be best off with either a sturdy pedometer/step counter like the early days of fitbit without having notifications or Invest some money in a reputable brand and go the expensive route. I have a Garmin Forerunner 245 since it's release day in 2019. With all features off, the battery still lasts weeks but software will kill it one day, sooner or later.

If i remember correctly swim 2 was very similar watch to fr245? (gen 3 sensor, outdated in 2025) instinct 3 amoled doesn't have touch and music but have flashlight and stronger built quality. i3 solar have small memory. fr265 have lover atm rating (if you go regularly to swimming poll there is good chance to cloge barometar hole after a year of swimming) and don't have flashligh. As usual with garmin: pick you poision. Both watches have 5 buttons, and swim drill log mode, that's good. Both watches have gen 4 sensor that is ok for average hr, but pretty slow to adapt to intervals. Gen 5 sensor is little better. In newer watch models i think there is swim coach but didn't track that part. 50mm i3 is probably to bulky for swim, but 45 i3 or 46/42 fr 265 should be ok size.

My Race S sensor is completely on par with the sensor on my Garmin Forerunner 245 so I don't see the problem with his statement.

245 for 70-80 is ok and you can see if you like it. I had it and it does the job.

I concur. My 245 still works but the buttons, even after a lot of cleaning with warm water, never worked perfectly again after a sea swim. These Forerunner watches don't like the salt in the water I believe.

Yea as you said, comparing the 245 to the fenix 8 is apples to oranges. It’s not even about the 970 being newer, it’s about it being high end, which the 245 isn’t.

How is the tech getting outdated? It's literally the same as the 965, but MIP. And Garmins latest watches are still being released with MIP And then the actual functionality is still all there with no realistic end date. I was using a 245 until earlier this year, that was still a fantastic watch and I only sold it because I'm getting into trail running and wanted maps for overseas travel.

How are the Forerunner 265s and 255 in the top five but the FR 245 is near the bottom? You've got a similar problem for the 945 vs the 955. Any methodology that produces such disparate "rankings" for two watches with similar features, build quality, and price is pretty suspect.

I've had the FR 245 the past 2+ years, and it's been excellent. No touch screen. And don't miss any touch screen from previous watches. Presumably the 255 and 245 are very similar

That's the one I have too. I love it!

Forerunner 245 if your starting out, no need to spend £500+ on a watch. Forerunner 245 has pretty much all features apart from lactate threshold test. Used it for multiple marathons no issues

Okay, I have a Garmin 245 and love it for its standard fitness tracking - HR, steps, sleep tracking, exercise options - and its water proof. It does not make a good bike computer (my power meter data tracks but is not analyzed iykwim) and wish I got a few models up like a Fenix. I have heard good things about Coros if you want more running data to analyze on your own and not have Garmin interpret it for you.

I just sold my 245 for a little more than that, so the $90 isn’t a bad deal. It worked fine and battery was still great. If you’re looking for a basic garmin watch it’s fine.

I switched from Apple Watch to forerunner 245 around 3 years ago. Never looked back. Apple Watch is a smart watch with fitness features. Garmin is a fitness watch with smart features.

if you need maps buy 965, if not go for 265. If you even do not need OLED go 255. If you need battery go for the one with more battery capability. Don’t get fooled by fancy metrics you’ll never use. I have a 955. Very happy with it. I was happy also with my 245 without mapping and using the preloaded tracks. Only reason I upgraded was screen size e possibility to have 5 fields on the screen. Other than that it was perfect, and I still miss how it was disappearing on my wrist in terms of weight, bulkiness and band size. Consider used to try it out or go to a local shop to play with it and see how it feels at your wrist. Also consider a nylon band (ultrafit by garmin or a similar amazon one) since it is mor stretchy, secures better, breaths better then silicon.

if you need oled no maps go 265. If you need no oled no maps 255. If you need maps and oled 965, if you need maps no oled 955. Must say I was also happy with my 245 using preloaded tracks to follow (you just do not have tha background image only a track. I switche to 955 because I needed more fields on my screen (fr245 had only 4) and I do trail running. I am happy with my 955 but I dont really am a fun of maps, I still use my phone for that. I could have been ok with the slicker and lighter 255. I still miss how the 245was disappearing on my wrist in terms of weight, bulkiness and band size. Consider to buy used to try it out or go to a local shop to play with it and see how it feels at your wrist. Also consider a nylon band (ultrafit by garmin or a similar amazon one) since it is more stretchy, secures better, breaths better then silicon. Trust me, you dont need touch screen on a sport watch. Garmin one is also bad in my experience. Also dont get fooled by fancy metrics you will never use.

This is a great option (Forerunner 245 and Edge 840) as I did the same thing. Ebay is great. What I do is record the ride on my watch (hit the button), then turn on extended display on the 840 so I can see my heart rate on my computer as well as the other ride stats. I pay most attention to my heart rate to manage my efforts and not blow up on the ride. However I ride on known routes and don’t need the head unit for navigation. Which on extended display is not as helpful. That would be my only complaint is that the extended display is not as visible (smaller text) as the non-extended readouts when just using the head unit. Extra credit: When paired with the Garmin Varia rear light radar unit, the watch will buzz my wrist when traffic is detected behind me.

Got the fr 245 and its still solid. By all means, go for it still worth it

Garmin will add less laps if you stop less or segment your workouts accordingly. Kinda like saying user error? But it’s because the watch is too sensitive? Example: I swim 25 underwater. I get to the wall to stretch for 30 seconds, and then swim back to complete the lap before I do 1500 freestyle. I usually end up with 75 or 100 meters when I complete that first warmup lap. And it’s because it is detecting movement consistent with the movement of pushing off a wall while I’m stretching. If I don’t start my watch until after I stretch and warm up and I just track my main set in one big block it’s spot on. If I am doing intervals it also adds half laps periodically, but for the same reason: it’s detecting change of direction movement. To minimize this I look at a wall clock instead of my watch to know when to blast off again. Solution for garmin: stop moving your watch when you’re not swimming if you told your watch you were swimming. They could probably fix it by making it less sensitive to changes in direction. But for now I can get 100 meters just by putting my goggles on if I want. Watches: forerunner 245 and fenix 7. 25 meter pool. Freestyle only.

Garmin 245 and garmin phoenix 7 both slap.

I second this. Exact same use case run 3x/week and weight train 3-4x/week. I found the epix pro gen 2 sapphire to be best utility and bang for buck. I tried the FR but was too run focused and I preferred the more tactical look. The fenix 8 was nice but at double the price with same sensor technology it didn’t felt worth it. You do forgo the mic and voice features but I didn’t need it and didn’t want a true smart watch but prioritized a fitness forward watch. 3 months in and I love my Epix pro gen 2 47mm

Ive had a few Fenix versions, they are great/ top of the range. Last few years ive been using forerunners which have all the functionality - 9xx series is great, or 2xx for something easier on the pocket. My activities include trail running, hiking, triathlons (and running/swimming/riding only), golf/disc golf. Navigation and battery are good, and glass is strong. Lifestyle is great for sleep, general hr tracking, step counts, tap to pay. The 955 i have also has great multimedia (music). Cant go wrong with a forerunner (solar if you are doing ultra's or multiday). Fenix is a nice splurge

>Its a Vivoactive by another name. ironically i've been looking at the FR series to upgrade my old vivoactive. lack of altimeter is deal breaker for me.