WHOOP - 5.0 MG

I am receiving my Whoop Mg today, after wearing the trial one for 20 or so days. I'm under no illusion that it's a full on medical device, however understanding the info displayed based on my daily activities has been a great experience. I can't fathom sleeping with a giant apple watch on my wrist. It took a little bit for me to get used to wearing the whoop band to sleep.. i'm used to it now and it's really not too bad.

I was pretty pissed off but it looks like the new device IS free, the wording is just super bad - I need to confirm with customer service, but it looks like if I can upgrade to the 5.0 for free and my subscription will renew again in January at the same price, *or* I can upgrade to the Mg and then renew at the higher price. If they want me to pay all that shit up front, then it's a hard pass. And all that said, it's still nickel-and-diming bullshit. I'm struggling to articulate this via text, but like, I am confident that making two devices and multiple apps have associated costs. They could have kept their costs down by making one device and then recouped it by making the app slightly more expensive, right? I think most of us would have been fine with the Mg being the only device and "hey, we've made the app and the device track all these extra things and it's going to cost an extra $5/mo or $25/yr or whatever from here on out as a result" versus the absolute mess of a rollout we got.

I canceled my Whoop subscription the day they announced their new bullshit. When they wouldn't refund me, I filed a chargeback with my credit card company. I just want very basic and accurate tracking of a few different health metrics with no screen (I like wearing analog watches) and Polar has been a trusted name in that market for a long time. For less than the cost of a Whoop subscription, I'll give it a shot.

I think converting the remaining months to fewer months for MG is wrong (we already paid for that time, 18 months in your case, and it does seem like breach of contract since they said upgrades are free). That being said, if they want to increase the membership cost for future not yet paid for months that we may opt to buy, they're well within their right to do that and the hardware is still free. But the converting our existing months to less time feels icky and I'm not sure what the point is because this is just annoying and it's a temporary source of cash for them at best.

I don't think it's Will who's driving this, it's SoftBank lol. If it'd been up to Will, everyone would have gotten the MG. That was OG Whoop vibes, the best data for all. Tiered approaches are a classic private equity play because they allow for capture of more of the market.

I’m not one of the haters, and it’s helped me a lot, but I’m not going to renew once my membership is up. The MG in particular is not worth the price in the slightest! If it was cheaper, I’d probably renew but there are so many options that are just as good (if not better) for a lot cheaper. All of my friends have now left Whoop for alternatives and none of them regret it. Whoop has served me very well but it’s time for me to move on. It was innovative 3+ years ago, but not anymore.

I have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 as well and a Withings blood pressure monitor so idk if it’s worth it for MG tbh If there was a good app with good analytics that can leverage the data from Apple Watch I would prob dump the whoop tbh

https://preview.redd.it/hv2fga6f7rmf1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99a84cce1e64606032a13b82d89c73ace9f8052b just not sure, but is the whoop5.0 more accurate than whoop mg?

got it. am loving my whoop so far. i used helio strap for 1 month, great device, but just prefer the whole whoop app and how the hardware feels on my wrist. im not hard core athlete, play pickleball 2-3times a week.

i personally dont think its nicer than whoop. especially the app. the price point is in no mans land, people can go with helio strap which is even cheaper and provide good value too.

i just keep hearing about accuracy everywhere, but whats the benchmark, even if there is, i think its very very dynamic when we talk about anything related to human. hardware most of the top brands and devices are similar. with some variability 2-5%. but its the software and algo that is the game changer. im going with whoop from usa to lead the pack.

Having had my MG for a couple of days and run, cycled and lifted weights with it, I can say confidently that it's ability to measure HR on the wrist during activity is just as bad as the 4.0 was. The 4.0 was excellent with a bicep band and I am desperately awaiting my bicep band for the MG. I do think forcing everyone to buy new bands was cynical by Whoop. It would have been incredibly simple to making it compatible with existing bands. Apple have with their watch for 10 iterations.

I had a Garmin Venu 3S once, but it didn’t quite click with me after a few tries. I was also using an Apple Watch Series 10 at the time. I eventually went back to my Apple Watch and stopped using Garmin. Why? Because there are some things about iPhone and Apple Watch that just don’t quite work the same way for Garmin. As you mentioned, the Apple Watch experience is truly unique and can’t be beat. If you’re serious about fitness, I think you could use an Apple Watch and be perfectly happy with its features. On a side note, I also wear a [WHOOP](https://join.whoop.com/crismfitfoodie) to get a deeper look into fitness, sleep, and other metrics. I’ve been using one for the past five years and wouldn’t change a thing. Just a heads-up, I wouldn’t recommend an Oura Ring. I know you didn’t mention it, but it feels like a bit of a waste of materials.

I’m a huge fan of WHOOP, and I’d definitely suggest it to anyone, whether they’re an athlete or not! One of the standout features is the daily sleep, recovery, and strain score. HRV is a key factor in your recovery, and it can differ from person to person. The strain metric shows how hard your body is working throughout the day and how well you’re managing stress. Another great feature is the journal. You can track various behaviors, like melatonin use, connecting with family and friends, caffeine consumption, alcohol, and over 20 others to gain insights. I usually keep it to about 10. From my own experience, I’ve noticed that taking melatonin daily has a positive impact on my recovery, adding about 10% to it. This might not be the same for everyone. The list is endless, but it’s highly customizable. The WHOOP battery is fantastic. I can go almost 14 days without needing to charge it. The battery is wearable, and all you have to do is slide it onto your wrist, and it charges wirelessly. Charging is super quick, and I’ve never had any battery issues.

Honestly, main reason I consider paying 100€ to get the MG right now, is that it will shorten my remaining subscription from 15 to 10 months. After that, I will most likely terminate. Was really, really looking forward to today and I am completely disappointed. 

Same here. No upgrades on sensors, but ridiculous upgrading cost makes this launch a huge disappointment for me. And I was really, really looking forward to it. Would even have accepted the annual price of the MG, if it would have received an entirely new set of sensors. With Garmin and others, every generation gets new, improved sensors while Whoop uses the same ones as in a four year old device? 

Same here... I was absolutely pissed about the 89€ fee (when everything is far cheaper anyways in USD). Still decided to do it - and lose a third of my remaining subscription - only to see on check-out that they charge 12€ on top of all this to ship this tiny box? Ridiculous... I aborted the order. Need to think about what to do with my 15 remaining months. In any case, Whoop lost all the (substantial) sympathy I had for the brand. 

Personally I think the negativity will always be louder than the positivity. I just unboxed and did a first impressions yesterday (MG) and I think that it’s just not different enough physically and when you couple that with higher pricing and having to basically get all new accessories - it’s a bad combination. I think the software will get better and if you are on MG you will likely receive any new software features either first or exclusively. I think with sub model pressure is really on to innovate quickly and outside of battery life improvements and ECG - 5.0 seems like an iPhone “S” update.