Eh, I’m not so sure honestly. Everything is so interconnected now.
Take Whoop for example - Whoop uses AWS for their servers - in most AWS cloud services contracts there are clauses in there that outline data usage (AWS and Amazon can basically get unfettered access to the data from Whoop and use it for “product improvement and reporting”). So even with the product that we all presumably have, that data is out there and accessible by Amazon, even if indirectly via AWS.
I’m testing the waters right now. 3 years with an AWU and Whoop to a F8 Pro. I’ve had a Garmin watch with LTE on my wish list for a while now and jumped at the opportunity when it was released. Satellite connectivity made it a no brainer.
I spend a considerable amount of time away from cellular reception. I got rid of my inReach when the iPhone got satellite capabilities. I was leaning on LTE on my AWU for emergency rescue when I was near civilization but it burned me once in rural Kansas when I didn’t have my phone. I prefer not to carry a phone with me while on long distance bike rides (gravel) or ultra distance trail runs.
I’m getting used to Garmin body battery and similar from Whoop strain and recovery metrics. The golf experience on Garmin is kind of great. Battery life is a HUGE win over AWU. Heart rate broadcast fills a small void that kept me from ditching Whoop, and Whoop could never keep up with HIIT and rapid HR changes. I haaaaate notifications on my wrist; that’s the first thing I turned off when I got the AWU or F8Pro. If I don’t have my phone with me, I don’t want to be reachable.
I still have my AWU but I think it’s going to end up on eBay.
I’m not one of the haters, and it’s helped me a lot, but I’m not going to renew once my membership is up. The MG in particular is not worth the price in the slightest!
If it was cheaper, I’d probably renew but there are so many options that are just as good (if not better) for a lot cheaper. All of my friends have now left Whoop for alternatives and none of them regret it.
Whoop has served me very well but it’s time for me to move on. It was innovative 3+ years ago, but not anymore.
Idk about easily but yeah if there are screenless trackers with no subscription and actually good UI they definitely have a chance to eat into Whoops space.
But so far no one has come close yet. Amazfit is maybe closest but the user experience is not nearly as nice as whoop. The Fitbit app has a long long way to go to get near whoop.
Maybe. Maybe not. The polar loop is a one time $200 and the helio strap is only $100 as well but neither has the software to back it up really.
Plus Garmin is coming out with something too at some point. Will whoop lower prices or will they try to differentiate on features? Maybe they will lower core prices but push add ons like whoop labs even more aggressively.
"Device on arm tells me that body that feels like shit is indeed shit."
Thats what I tell everybody about whoop. Its pretty cool but it just confirms how my body feels.
I was one of the people who, angry about the way Whoop handled the 5.0/MG launch, rage-quit and switched to an apple watch. Even after the "upgrade fee" issue was resolved for users like me who had a long subscription remaining, I was still mad that upgrading would mean I would lose all the bands I had purchased over the years, in exchange for what seemed to me to be just slightly longer battery life. The whole rollout put a bad taste in my mouth, and I decided to throw my whoop in the drawer and instead just use my apple watch.
So I went all-in on an apple watch with bevel. And the apple watch is great! I love it. It's fantastic for outdoor activities - runs, biking, etc - and I love being able to go places without my cell phone and still be reachable. Not to mention, because I use(d) natural cycles, I sleep with my apple watch anyway. I used my apple watch heavily all summer, and figured that bevel was pretty close to the same as whoop for strain and recovery insights, so I really wasn't missing much of anything.
Well, after a few months my anger died down and I decided that hey, I've pre-paid for my whoop subscription until fall 2026 anyway, I may as well put it back on and make the most of it. So I did.
........You guys. It's gotten better. The UI has improved, the whoop AI coach is significantly improved and the hormonal insights are \*massively\* improved, to the point where I feel like whoop is potentially the best women's health tracker on the market for fitness-focused people (oura has really leaned into women's health, but I think we can all agree that oura can't hold a candle to whoop for fitness).
Comparing bevel to whoop, I mean..... look. Bevel is pretty good. As far as apple watch apps go I think it's the best whoop competitor. But it's just not the same at all. Lol. It's not even bevel's fault - the reality is that your apple watch, taking measurements intermittently when not specifically in a workout, is never going to be able to compare with the 24/7 data from the whoop. No matter how good the algorithm is, you're still making connections between dots that are farther apart. And before people comment that "the whoop HR data is unreliable!!", I can tell you that when I work out with my AWU and my whoop on a bicep band, the HR data is within a hair of each other.
So, I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. The apple watch is a fitness \*tracker\* (and phone extension), the whoop is a dedicated fitness & health \*coach\*. That'sthe difference. Whoop really does provide something special. I'll be here for the foreseeable future, with my 4.0, and my nicer wristband and my bicep band that fit with it. When my subscription is up, maybe I'll upgrade to the 5.0 and buy \*all new bands\* (still raging about this). Or maybe I won't. Either way though, I am satisfied with the value I'm getting from whoop, and no, I don't think the apple watch is the same.
Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
I’ve had a garmin, an AWU, an oura and a whoop (mostly not overlapping with each other). AWU is best for outdoor activities requiring gps (for me) and whoop has been the best for general life, hormone, fitness and recovery tracking.
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