WHOOP - Strap 3.0

I’m testing the waters right now. 3 years with an AWU and Whoop to a F8 Pro. I’ve had a Garmin watch with LTE on my wish list for a while now and jumped at the opportunity when it was released. Satellite connectivity made it a no brainer. I spend a considerable amount of time away from cellular reception. I got rid of my inReach when the iPhone got satellite capabilities. I was leaning on LTE on my AWU for emergency rescue when I was near civilization but it burned me once in rural Kansas when I didn’t have my phone. I prefer not to carry a phone with me while on long distance bike rides (gravel) or ultra distance trail runs. I’m getting used to Garmin body battery and similar from Whoop strain and recovery metrics. The golf experience on Garmin is kind of great. Battery life is a HUGE win over AWU. Heart rate broadcast fills a small void that kept me from ditching Whoop, and Whoop could never keep up with HIIT and rapid HR changes. I haaaaate notifications on my wrist; that’s the first thing I turned off when I got the AWU or F8Pro. If I don’t have my phone with me, I don’t want to be reachable. I still have my AWU but I think it’s going to end up on eBay.

I have been a Whoop wearer for 4 years. I have had a Garmin 945 for 5. This is exactly my use case—run and strength (and whatever else) with the Garmin and whoop for the overall experience.

I wear my BB58 and other watches in my collection on my left. Whoop strap on my right. It's the perfect product for me. Decent battery life, all the fitness tracking data I want and it doesnt look like a watch so works with a watch on the other wrist. Highly recommend.

I use a WHOOP fitness strap. It has the zones and activities

I was upset when it was 3.0 to 4.0. I've been a loyal follower since the beginning. But this really is a slap in the face to people who have paid the subscription prices and also bought all the accessories each time they put out a new f****** b******* upgrade with substandard hardware. Had had to rebuy everything (3 to 4). Frankly, I don't care what they've done. I'm tired of this. What's next? 2 years it's 6? Buy everything again. Get chipped on the f****** prices we've paid. No thank you. Cut your losses. Go to Garmin, go to an apple, go to anything but whoop.

It’s always been way behind the market. As recently as the 3.0 it would register routine walks as stress stress workouts because the motion made it think HR was 160+

I’ve tried quite a few and have landed on whoop. Whoop is solid for tracking recovery and overall activity levels, and is great at tracking long term trends. I do question the accuracy of the data, but the data is consistently tracking the same thing, and is tracking something meaningful, so it works well for me. I also don’t always love the interpretation of the data, but once I worked all that out I could use what I have perfectly well. I like the screen less design, I can jam it in cracks without an issue, and I like how it feels on my wrist. I don’t even notice it anymore.

I wear a whoop when climbing. It doesn’t have a screen, so I don’t worry about it. I’ve jammed it in cracks quite a few times without issue.

Truthfully I wear my  watch only when I’m working out. I don’t use it when sleeping or everyday errands, I use my whoop almost 24/7 cause I do take it off when showering.

Second whoop. They sell a pack of 4 underwear for $37.5 that you can insert the whoop in. Only way I’ll ever use it. Hate wearing a watch/anything on my wrist.

I wear a whoop strap on my off hand, and when I am wearing a watch on my primary watch wrist.

I tried a Whoop strap on a trial basis a few years ago and the charging system was actually pretty cool. It was a clip that fixed over top of the sensor and you could charge it while wearing it.

Fair assessment I'm in a similar boat and currently use AW ultra/Whoop combo until I decide whether or not it's ultimately worth renewing for more than a year. I suspect by then it'll be hard to justify the price compared to Bevel's increasing capabilities and comprehensive approach, Athlytic's too for that matter though it's a little more focused. If you don't care about insights or using cheap Chinese alternatives (only meaning in terms of people with data concerns or whatever) even Amazfit's Helio is quite a bit better than Whoop for accurate workout/HR tracking. Was excited about Polar but they decided to trip all over themselves with the Loop. Hope it improves, would love it as an alternative. But I don't think anything currently does wellness/recovery as well still and gives the whole package in as user friendly an app. Also appreciate the female perspective as someone whose wife might be interested enough to give my old trial band a go so thanks for the TED talk. User experiences are mostly why I browse this stuff.

Whoop is way more comprehensive in what it offers but it's only worth the very expensive price if you *want* all the extra involvement that comes with it and will take the time to fully utilize it. Sounds like it's not necessary or desired for you right now so I think you're right to look at the Loop or Amazfit's Helio. Both are still very useful for what they offer, honestly for what you want right now either one is a far far better value. Amazfit has become very popular, I've had it since launch and can tell you they've updated it frequently (Amazfit's track record overall is spotty but they're improving, and the Helio has become a best seller for them so they've done better with supporting it than other products), it is a very accurate monitor for heart rate regardless of wearing it on wrist or biceps, and though I find its sleep tracking mediocre at best its HR data is usually excellent. It's bulkier and much cheaper in feel and appearance than the Loop, which may or may not matter to you. I only mention that because the *most* effective wearable is the one you will actually consistently wear right, seems obvious but you'd be surprised, especially when it comes to these screenless devices and rings. I've been very harsh with the Loop and I suggest you look at the "megathread" in here to get an idea of other peoples' experience with it as the newest product of the three. Harsh because I want to love it! The software gets a lot of complaints but I never had a real issue with it and don't think you will either for your usage. I found the sleep tracking to be on par with Amazfit Helio's which is to say mediocre (compared to Whoop and Apple) but given enough time it may have continued to improve. I *like* Polar's presentation of ANS/recharge, I *like* their no frills data with respect to training load, etc., they're old school and it shows and if I could trust the sensor and the data itself more, I'd absolutely love the product and might have happily switched from Whoop. Still will if the Polar Loop improves. Whoop has impressed me a lot in many areas (new labs feature has way exceeded my expectations but that's a much longer post) but it is exceedingly expensive. Of the three Polar's is by far the nicest to actually wear. Most comfortable looks the best, lasts about a week on a charge which is still plenty to not be an issue. Depending on how you feel about data and privacy you might be tempted to go Polar over Amazfit for that reason alone. Anyway TLDR Polar has proven the least accurate of the three for me so I don't currently wear it, I'd love to if they can improve it enough to not have gaps or huge misinterpreted heart rate dropped/auto-tracked segments, etc. Helio's auto detection also sucked at launch, but if you just leave those off both devices do better at just giving you a day's worth of HR data and general activity trends. Polar also tends to be generous with "steps" and treats it more as an activity measure so, as with all trackers, you'll probably see a fair amount of variation comparing one against the next. Sorry for meandering, hope this helps at all. I think you'd like the Loop honestly, just make sure you are aware of their return policy and whatnot. Good luck!

Agree. Whoop is far, far more comprehensive in what it tries and mostly succeeds in doing. Doesn’t take away from Helios very good value proposition as an accurate all day HR tracker (the ring is even decent for the basics) but Zepp does not compete in overall recovery and wellness by any stretch. There just isn’t a direct competition really. Closest is frankly Apple Watch and Bevel.

Would not do Hume. Would research their quality and customer service/satisfaction and then stay far away. Tons of people wear AW and Whoop, I'm one of 'em. It's great. Overkill on some things but I couldn't test and commit to one, the other, or both without a year's worth of Whoop. Worth it for me personally, whether or not I go past the initial year. Awesome product in many ways, company itself deserves its fair share of criticism especially over this last year but that doesn't change the very good but very expensive product itself. Just my experiences, hope that helps. EDIT forgot a pretty big caveat, I prefer the Ultra so battery life overnight is never an issue, I suppose the new 11s are also better in this respect. The Whoop and Apple sleep tracking are the best among all I've tried and are both very similar, such that I now could happily only use one or the other and won't necessarily need Whoop past the year sub *if* I stay with the AWU. If you only want the watch during the day for all the convenient amazing things it does and you're used to taking it off at night, yes to Whoop for worry free 24/7 data.

I’ve ditched my AWU2 to a Whoop 30 to 35 days ago. No regrets so far.Steps count can be inaccurate sometimes but other than that I’ve no regrets with Whoop. 1. Having no screen helps me concentrate more on work and during family time . 2. I did a 10 day trip, and the battery lasted the whole time 3. This is me but I’ve made some changes to my routine after seeing and reviewing the data. no coffees after 3 pm, only 3 beers so far in the last 30-35 days, no late night snacking. 4. Strain metrics have been helpful as well. For ex;I completed my workout on Saturday, and I wanted to run a bit more to hit my cardio goals but seeing I’ve already hit my Strain Goal I finished my workout . 5. Finally, I get to wear my sports watch every day now Some of these points are applicable only to me

I don’t wear my Apple Watch anymore. As an amateur road cyclist that “races” for fun, I switched to swoop band and oura ring. Both sorta suck cause of costs but what can you do. I’m hoping garmin releases a swoop band alternative that isn’t a SaaS

Terrible app. Very inaccurate sensor. Sleep tracking is awful, tells me I've been awake half the night when I haven't. Setup was very difficult and kept getting errors, I had to reinstall the app multiple times and wipe the device. Lacking features and extremely expensive. Much better options out there.

For what it’s worth, I came back to Whoop but the last time I was on it, it was 3.0. I used the Oura but it’s not a great fitness tracker. I used an Apple Watch but I didn’t like wearing it 24/7, and I didn’t think any of the add on apps like Athlytic were great. I find the whoop works best for me bc it’s screen less so I can easily wear all day and night, and I do find the data it provides useful. Since I last used Whoop, they added Health Span and Strength Trainer. I like the gamification of Health Span and I like the calculation of strength training strain if you log your exercises. If this all ready was there when you last tried and you didn’t enjoy it, it may not be worth you coming back.

I went from a Garmin Venu 2, with a polar Upper bicep HR added for crossfit accuracy to Apple Watch 8 with Athlytic App. Previously had a whoop 3.0 too. Nothing has touched the accuracy of a standalone Apple Watch for HR tracking in CrossFit, imho. It’s leaps and bounds better than the sensor used in Garmin (though I miss aspects of the Garmin platform still)

Also wear the whoops on the bicep now bc I also wear Apple Watch and oura ring. Sometimes I like to wear a regular watch or no watch. Bicep with whoops has made so much more sense than the wrist.

Whoop and just some casio to time rests

Ive used whoop since the 3.0 I cancelled my subscription and got a galaxy watch 4. With my time with the galaxy watch I learnt that for my needs the whoop was better so I came back and got the 4.0 the collected data with whoop is better, the fact it had no screen is a plus as I like to wear real watches, the strength trainer in my opinion is good (could be much much better though) there's other factors but I dont want to be boring With no news on the 5.0 i got the galaxy watch ultra at the end of last year as I had heard that the watch was much better now and so was their health app. However I didnt find this again suited my needs and I really dont like smartwatches however the thing I liked about the galaxy watch Is it has sleep apnea testing, ecg and irregular heart rate notification. now that the 5.0 has them things I can say they are giving me what I want from a fitness tracker and I can put the smart watch away for good instead of having the whoop and galaxy watch on me at all times. The whoop 5.0 has what I want. That being said if there was a screen less alternative to whoop that offered the same features if not morw I would definitely try them out. I have no loyalty to whoop they just currently tick the boxes of what I want

\*sigh , looks like I'm renewing with Whoop another year. WR30 in 2025 is ridiculous. Massive L from polar.

“WR30, or Water Resistant 30 meters, on a watch means the watch is only suitable for splash resistance, protecting against accidental splashes or rain, and can be used for handwashing. It does not mean you can swim or dive with the watch, as the rating is for static water pressure, and any movement or impact during activities can increase the pressure beyond the watch's capability. “ -Google

I use whoop w an arm strap. Toggling from one set of undies to another gets annoying. Works great. Get him a whoop

Wait a damn minute. I had a whoop in 2021. I stopped using it after a year. I just got the 4.0 last month. GRRRRR

Wearing both the last year but not sure I really need whoop

I’ve been using AWU + Athlytic and Whoop for a year. You can get a very whoop like experience from the former. Only reason to go back to whoop is if you want 24/7 monitoring and don’t want to wear the watch. When working out I always track via AW as the HR is more accurate. I will probably not renew after trialing for a year. It’s just too expensive.

The heart rate tracking with it was for me horrible, my Polar watch performed way better. Both compared to a Chest Strap.

I have a Whoop because I wanted one. The Garmin is the training tool though, and I suppose the Apple Ultra watch could do the same. The Whoop gives much better continuous data if that’s interesting to you because it basically never comes off. It’s not really a training tool, but I do like the sleep metics. It’s not as simple as “did I sleep well” or “did I get enough sleep”. To me anyway, actual numbers are more informative. And keeping up with the journal helps — I found that my sleep was generally worse on work-from-home days, for example. Then I could modify and be sure I was active during the day. I guess I could have figured that out on my own, but that’s not how it happened. Subscription is a pain, and I’m not sure I’m healthier for having a Whoop. But I do like the data I get from it.

I wore a Whoop *and* my Garmin for almost a year and the Whoop was annoying and useless. I want a watch, not the world's ugliest bracelet.

Dont get smartwatch..its trash. Get fitness band or whoop or amazfit hello strap.stay away from smartwatch.im using them since 5 years and felt waste

Whoop + bicep sleeve. Works for gi/no gi.

I use Whoop. Have been for over a year and have had no issues. I wear the arm sleeve during regulars training, sports bra when competing and wrist band day to day. It’s been great for balancing strain/recovery/sleep. I train BJJ 4-5x, lift 4x, run 3x, and try to do recovery activities (walk, yoga, pilates) 3x per week… so having Whoop tell me which days I should go harder or lighter has made such a difference in my training regiment!

Aside from health tracking, there’s nothing a smart watch does that my phone doesn’t do better. Smart watches come with all the privacy concerns of an unsecured phone. So I can buy tech that’ll be e waste in a few years, sell my data, look goofy on my wrist, and require charging habits, or I can wear a solar quartz that’ll last much longer, tracks nothing, requires no troubleshooting and next to no maintenance. I gave health tracking a try with a whoop strap for a year, decided it didn’t add value to my workouts and I hated having to travel with an extra charger.

i got a whoop on my right wrist, aw on left, and an oura ring on my right index finger lol

Same. Cancelled the whoop and am now doing zero gadgets.

Whoop on my thing wrist. No display, which is refreshing. Tudor on my left when I don’t workout.

I use a whoop strap with the padded bicep strap. I’ve used it during karate and BJJ. It’s never been an issue. I’ve been kicked there during sparring and it didn’t cause problems for my partner or I.

I have the Morpheus strap. It works great and it is inexpensive. In that past, I used a whoop with the arm band which I loved because it synchs to apple health. I'm hopeful for the day when apple will come up with something besides the watch that synchs to the rings.

This is me…went garmin, whoop, back to garmin. I have a few “nice” watches that sit bc I’d rather wear my fenix. Friends think I’m crazy wearing garmin over Rolex, omega and such but I enjoy the data.

> no interest in the journaling the other commenter mentioned the 24hr strain & sleep tracking is the primary feature. I’d say the behavior journaling/insights is a killer feature that distinguishes whoop from its competitors. a ton of whoop users reduce their alcohol consumption substantially because this feature is great at showing you how alcohol impacts recovery. in money saved on booze, whoop probably pays for itself for a good chunk of its users. it takes some time to grok and get used to. (months for me) but then it’s easy to obsess over your metrics and data and watching them improve.

I had the worst experience with Whoop’s customer service. It feels like their emails are being answered by AI. I returned the device before the trial period ended, yet they still charged my credit card for the annual payment. Despite repeatedly emailing them for a refund, I keep getting irrelevant requests like asking for my date of birth. Think twice before purchasing from Whoop. They sent me a pre-owned device with noticeable scratches on the back, which was extremely disappointing. I regret my decision and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

I’ve used Whoop historically with a bicep band — never an issue between Gi/NoGi

Definitely comes down to preference… Although not related to OP topic, and completely side railing… Whoop is just a software. $200 a year for a software is gimmicky. I would never recommend a Whoop imo. I get the concept, screenless tracker … cool. Subscription? Not cool. Ruins the entire thing. Turns the fitness tracker into a gimmick because you aren’t paying for the tracker itself. You are paying for the software and the Whoop software isn’t $200 a year good.

I have the Helio strap and the Whoop, I was a big fan of the Whoop until a $100 strap without a subscription is giving almost identical readings… across all the genres. I’ve noticed a 2% discrepancy at most. Majority of the time they’re the same. Now I feel a lot of resentment towards Whoop… hence why I see it as an App and now, abit gimmicky!

yea i wear both aw on the left whoop on the right. they are both good for different things and having the whoop gives me some peace of mind about my apple watch charge like i don’t stress about if it dies cause ik the whoop is running

Whoop works well on Android and is comfortable, haven't taken mine off since I got it last year

Wenn dir valide Daten wichtig sind, würde ich zu einem Gerät greifen, was eine Kompatibilität mit einem Brustgurt vorweisen kann. Die Daten von Whoop fand ich in meinem Vergleich über 4 Wochen damals ziemlich abschreckend, vor allem bei Kraft- und Intervalltraining war Garmin mit und ohne(!) Brustgurt mit wesentlich besseren Daten unterwegs.

Will tell you for sure Helio definitely isn’t for you, sleep tracking is cooked. Can’t even recommend Whoop bc the Step tracking on that is generationally bad. First world problems

Does the step tracking normally work for you? To be honest, I’ve never had such an inaccurate tracking like on the whoop…

If you have an Apple Watch 9, you’re happy with it and it fits you’re lifestyle then why look for hype. If you want hype, buy hype but it should be about what you think is right for your needs. The Apple Watch is a smartwatch + fitness device. The whoop is a fitness device only. I had an Apple Watch for years and I liked it at the start but over time it became less suitable for me. I often work or study in environments where I must take off anything worn on the wrist. The whoop costs me more but I can wear it on the bicep and the battery is significantly longer. I personally prefer the whoop because it is more suitable for me. You have to decide what is right for you based on what you want from your wearable.

If you need a watch you need a watch, but does it have to be smart? I would strongly recommend the bicep band. I only wear my whoop on the bicep as it is needed for work but it is also much more comfortable. If your Fitbit is dying and you are considering a garmin, just replace the Fitbit with a garmin and then decide if you also want a whoop. I don’t have garmin but I’ve seen many users doing side by side comparisons with garmin and whoop and seeing different results because they have different sensors. I can’t tell you if you shouldn’t buy 2 trackers. I myself have considered an Apple Watch addition in recent months because the whoop lacks GPS and carrying your phone while jogging is not always ideal. I bought the whoop because I work and study in environments where I’m not allowed to wear anything on my wrist or hands and regularly have to remove watches; the bicep band gives me something that no other wearable does. Don’t want to have both your wrists taken up, wear your whoop somewhere else; there are multiple options. I just don’t recommend having a whoop, garmin an Fitbit. The Fitbit seems redundant when you already have the two.

I look my whoop because I don’t have to look at another screen. I don’t want to see my texts and alerts from my iPhone on a watch. If you prefer that, the watch is for you.

One of the main reasons I choose a whoop over an Apple watch was due to the free hardware upgrades. Conveniently my 12 month subscription is up around the same time the Apple watch is released. The cost isn’t the issue, it’s them changing what’s promised.

Whoop might work well for you. It can be worn in multiple places on your body (wrist or bicep straps are most common, they also make clothing / underwear designed to hold the device). Main advantage for me vs. Apple / Garmin is I can wear it on my right arm while wearing a normal watch on my left wrist.

I got a Whoop last week. I’ve done Garmins (Bike mounted and wrist mounted, with Chest HR strap) and Apple Watch in the distant past. I recently started CrossFit, and attempting to get back in shape after a long hiatus from triathlons. I did NOT want a smart watch. I don’t want notifications. I don’t want to charge every day. My non-dominant arm is heavily tattooed so the wrist sensors don’t work anyway. I wanted a simple step tracker / monitor I could wear on my dominant wrist that isn’t tattooed. I wear a traditional watch on my non-dominant wrist. Fitbit doesn’t make a screen less wearable anymore, so, I tried the Whoop. I’m on day 6. I do NOT like the subscription model, and it’s very pricey for what it is. I have no interest in the journaling, etc. (were they really sharing this data with healthcare companies?) Some of the feature seem gimmicky, like sleep scores and whatnot. I know when I sleep bad. I don’t mind these extra features, as it seems like the device itself serves it’s purpose. But for $200 a year I was really hoping this Polar would be everything I need and some things I wanted. I see there’s also the Amazfit Helio, which I hadn’t heard about since I Just saw it in this thread, but yeah. (Maybe I’ll read up on it while I’m still in my trial month with Whoop). Competition in this space is good. I am just fatigued with the smart watch / subscription thing.

Smh one time I saw someone with an apple watch, a whoop, and an oura at the same time so you're good Eta I saw another commenter say that they had this and all I gotta say is you better do a writeup with your recommendations

If you had to recommend one to someone who mostly uses their whoop for sleep but does like the daily strain and stress monitor and also lifts often, which would it be?? I've had whoop for so long but i'm curious about oura! I just worry that I would take it off for so many activities that I wouldnt be able to go back and compare my days as well.

I canceled my Whoop subscription the day they announced their new bullshit. When they wouldn't refund me, I filed a chargeback with my credit card company. I just want very basic and accurate tracking of a few different health metrics with no screen (I like wearing analog watches) and Polar has been a trusted name in that market for a long time. For less than the cost of a Whoop subscription, I'll give it a shot.

Apple Watch on my left wrist and Whoop on my right bicep. No issues.

Wearing AW in left wrist and Whoop on right bicep. It took a bit setting up at first, but once up and running, I’ve been happy with the combined data insights. For me the key value has been the added motivation/nudge. I work out routinely (5 days lifting, 2 days cardio); the toys keep me honest and consistent.

I wore both an Apple Watch Ultra and Whoop for 3 years. Just cut both for a Garmin Forerunner 265. Haven’t missed the other 2, and I’m fully in the Apple ecosystem.

Probably but then it kinda defeats the purpose of an apple watch. For me, wearing my mechanical watches and whoop on the other arm works and makes me happy. I guess that’s what works for me though

I think get a whoop trial and see if it works for you. Everyone has different requirements and expectations from whoop/Apple Watch.

Leaving Whoop after 3 years shortly. Going to the Apple Watch. I think the data is ok, but I am more “at a glance” with it now and I don’t see the value in the subscription approach any longer. I have a separate add on for Apple Fitness, so I’m going to take a year off and assess a new approach.

There really is no perfect device. I have a job that requires me to wake up often in the middle of the night, and Whoop *never* registers when I’m awake, even when there are clear sustained periods of elevated HR. When I’m at work, two hours of accumulated sleep will still register as eight hours, which skews all the metrics, effectively making the majority of my data useless. Combine that with the high cost over the life of the device, and it’s a bad deal for me. I really want to love the whoop.

12€ shipping is such a scam. In no way in the world does a small package like the whoop cost 12€ to ship. Btw if you upgrade you wont have 14months anymore. 25% get deducted for the higher subscription cost. you left with 10month

If you dont mind wearing a smartwatch like apple watch or garmin, go with those. I prefer classic watches so im doing the combo of a normal watch and whoop on my other wrist.

Same on this. Had my ultra since release day and loved it. Tried Whoop for a year in combo just to see, but once I realize Athlytic was getting better and my Whoop felt like a chore to not lose the battery, I ditched the sub before it was even up.

If you are looking for highly accurate HRV and recovery information, you should use WHOOP. It is not a replacement, but an addition to you AW. Edit: to clarify, garmin can track HRV, RHR and other recovery tied data, I am not saying it’s useless, but imho whoop provides more accurate data.

It’s hard to quantify the difference in numbers. Whoop main focus on recovery and vitals, garmin try’s to cover all areas and aspects. I know few people that went back and forth, but ended up with Whoop+Garmin setup, mainly using whoop for recovery. One of them is a triathlete, training multiple times per day, and according to him whoop provides more accurate data. The subscription model sucks, but that’s how it is. If you are really after the best data on recovery, whoop is imho the best offer on the market. But you need to see the value, for most people it’s just another overpriced tracker without any usefulness.

Yeah I feel like apple sleep tracking is similar to its specificity with fitness tracking. Instead of in depth (and maybe somewhat disappointing data) it gives you the positive fluff version to encourage general day to day health. I compared whoop vs. AW vs Fenix and Apple was the only one that just skipped my mini awake times. Found that strange

I wore both for 4 years.

Whoop is more of a lifestyle tracker. But in my experience no wearable fitness tracker is really good at understanding the strain of a crossfit workout (or a weight lifting one). They all require you to manually go and add in all your lifts, which becomes a real drag, or even worse you have to carry your phone around clicking start on all the exercises. I use the Whoop because I'm looking for more than just tracking workouts, also I love that it doesn't have a screen.

It’s really unfortunate that WHOOP has decided to take this route — not updating devices for existing subscribers with active plans. For example, I cancelled my subscription yesterday and don’t plan to renew it. It’s disappointing to see this approach from WHOOP. And I especially feel bad for people who just subscribed. Like my boss, for instance — I recommended WHOOP to him, he purchased a yearly subscription, and received his new device only three weeks ago. Now, every time he opens the WHOOP app, he’ll get a reminder that a new device is available — but to get it, he’ll have to pay an extra fee. Sadly, this will be the case for all new users who joined at the last minute. They’ll constantly be getting follow-up prompts: “You’re not using WHOOP to its full potential,” or “Discover more – upgrade, subscribe, pay extra.” As for me, I’ll stick with Apple Watch, a one-time purchase, paired with an app like Athletic, which costs significantly less. I’m confident this combination will cover 90% of my needs. And if one day I feel that I’m missing something, I’ll just buy an Oura ring — and even then, it’ll still cost less than WHOOP.

The issue is that he is checking just the hardware accuracy, not the whole ecosystem (hardware+software). Whoop app is incredible. What is the alternative for AW?

I really like my whoop for strength training. It can tell my heavier lifts from my lighter lifts and gives a percentage on cardio vs muscular load. I would say it is accurate only if you input your workouts in the app at the end of your lift. Would love if garmin did something like this

Mine is out in October, Done with Whoop too

this is in my opinion a weist of money 1. step count way off 30% more than samsung or apple watch 2. 200 usd membership 3. state of the art labs are only 80% precise in terms of sleep analysis , how accurate do you think the watch is ? 4. i did a leg workout all to failure could not move for a day strain score 9 5. in the morning when sleep score is low or recovery low , it will subconsciously make you tierd even if are fine just train to failure , step count with applewatch

Whoop seems to be perfect for your needs. I'm not very active with my training yet I'm finding it incredibly useful so far. Bought it last week with the Black Friday sale. It is the best in the market, apparently, for sleep/recovery Vs strain insights. The other options really are not the same level.

i personally dont think its nicer than whoop. especially the app. the price point is in no mans land, people can go with helio strap which is even cheaper and provide good value too.

i just keep hearing about accuracy everywhere, but whats the benchmark, even if there is, i think its very very dynamic when we talk about anything related to human. hardware most of the top brands and devices are similar. with some variability 2-5%. but its the software and algo that is the game changer. im going with whoop from usa to lead the pack.

I'm switching to Whoop. My main focus is on sleep tracking and heart health. Not a fan of the subscription, but hoping for a subscription free alternative in 1-2 years.

I use a Whoop and the arm sleeve under my rashguard for nogi and they also have a compression top that I wear underneath my Gi on gi days

When I go for a run, I use my Coros Pace 3 along with my Whoop. They’re two different things, but complementary when it comes to tracking my runs.

I’ve gone both ways with this and back with AWU and Oura. Whoop has a beautiful UI but is largely inaccurate on HR reading for me. So that throws everything else off. I’ve tested Whoop and AWU against the gold standard HR chest strap and the AWU is insanely accurate for me on my wrist. Whoop, not so much. Really wanted Whoop to work too. I’ve tested this over and over. Data nerd.

Not a big loss but doesn't have that haptic alarm which is a feature I enjoyed on whoop when I used one.

Similar to the Polar Loop, Garmin are also releasing a screen less wearable to compete in this space. Holding out to see that as well as wait for some actual user reviews on the Polar Loop. I was about to give the Amazit Helios strap chance and was at checkout when I saw the Loop being released the next day. There is a an amazfit sub Reddit I'm followingbwithba very active community talking about the watched and straps. Seems like it's fine, as people are saying here but requires patience and constant software upgrades across all their products. Kind of like they are building the plane while it's flying. Not sure this is helpful. I'm not hard pressed to have a new wearable presently. Miss the Whoop and haven't used it for the last year, but honestly haven't felt lost without it. Helped realise a few lifestyle issues around drinking, sleeping better etc... didn't add more value than that personally.

I like my whoop for sleep tracking, everything else Garmin is great

Just buy a whoop

I agree but there's no other device that delivers the same metrics as whoop. Try it for a month it's free.

Garmin has to be one of the most stubborn refuse to change companies out there. I mean has anyone looked at their executive team lately. Bunch of clueless old guys that don’t appear to have any athletic ability anymore & never had any fashion sense. We ask for a whoop competitor & we get an index sleep monitor. However don’t worry we’ve released a screenless tracker for your horse. I’ve had a ton of Garmins over the years. Including multiple Marqs. Now because Garmin won’t listen to their customers I’ve moved over to Amazfit & Whoop(have had one for like 7 years) I’d gladly go back to Garmin if they would release what we’ve asked for, a proper screenless Whoop competitor. Garmin wake up already. Of course I’ll be checking out Polar’s offering next week. Hope they nail their band.

Thanks. Whoop seems to struggle with arm movements it doesn’t recognize. Given you had no legs it was probably an odd motion while swimming. I was scrubbing and then scraping concrete a few weeks ago. It was hard enough to make me sweaty but whoop had my HR near 200. I deleted the activity and can’t recall what it thought I was doing now but it was obviously way off. All that being said I’m sure your arm movements were still close enough to a normal stroke so it’s a disappointing result.

Whoop isn’t great because it has terrible tracking and then I can’t have any info on my wrist when I’m training. I liked it, but more as a supplement to my Apple Watch and then garmin

I used both for a year. Just expensive to pay for Whoop when I could use my garmin to get almost all the same information.

https://preview.redd.it/vs3mpaibzznf1.png?width=403&format=png&auto=webp&s=82e691eab0e6bd67ddc6d17a04dd527b18b7674c That's interesting. I haven't looked at the calc methods yet, but I'm currently trialling Whoop and Oura with my Polar Pacer Pro. I only have 7 days of data so far, as you can see, correlation is high but Polar HRV is always 10-20ms higher. A late, but sober night on day 2. Alcohol on day 5 and a little bit on day 6... I'm primarily doing this for sleep data, but when my legs aren't playing up I run, hence the Polar device.

I purchased the whoop and after several days I returned it. While wearing it was convenient, I am a side sleeper so having something on my arm just hurt as a slept. I am a women and I was looking for a little more data about my body. The whoop is probably best just for athletes not casual wearers. I am thinking about switching to oura ring cause it just looks better. If I am in a formal setting wearing a dress the original band is not appealing and I feel like you need much of a commitment to the whoop before buying all the accessories. I also don't like how it cant track when you start ya activities or how many miles you walked. It just give you too many data points without really any significance.

I use whoop and it let's you broadcast HR to the bike!

I had other devices before Whoop, checked its HR accuracy against chest strap and my wrist Whoop is as accurate. It has helped me tailor my workouts to my recovery improving outcomes More importantly it saved my life a couple of years ago when I had an Atrial Flutter episode. I got notified of a completed activity I wasn’t doing anything and hadn’t for a bit. Opened Whoop and it was showing 5 activities at 20/21 over the past 5 hours. Checked my current HR and was in zone 4. Had no symptoms and went to the ER, got an ablation and was all good.

I am using a WHOOP. Got it mainly for sleep but it recognises my climbing as well. You can wear it on the wrist, bicep or in under garments (bicep band or under garments cost extra). I am super happy with it. My sleep has improved dramatically since getting this thing and therefore my overall quality of life too. No screens :) It does cycle tracking too which takes longer than I have had it yet to see an effect. But, there are no cycle notifications, if that is important to you. However, since you are supposed to log habits and symptoms every day anyway, you will have the app open every day at least once, so you see your cycle predictions too. 9/10 recommendation for this thing

It’s not that Whoop is bad, but the $360 price for the Lifetime membership feels excessive to me, and I no longer find it worth it. I do recommend it for one year if you are serious about learning and tracking your health, but 2 years is unnecessary for the average person. I really enjoyed it for the first year and a few months, and I still love tracking my workouts, but I feel like I’ve hit a plateau with what I can actually learn from it. The recovery insights aren’t insightful to me, and I’ve had a disappointing experience with their customer service. The things I want to track can be done with other, more affordable devices. So that’s my plan — try another options, and if I truly miss it, I can always come back

I used a whoop, with the forearm sleeve. I put the sleeve on my calf, though. Worked great that way.

This is my perspective as someone who uses Whoop and wears an SMP or a Speedy that I rotate according to how I feel. Also, I've tried Oura, and liked it, but it wasn't for me. And I have an AW Ultra that I use when running and hiking, and this is after a few years of using a Garmin Fenix. Most people think of Whoop as simply a fitness tracker, which it is, but it is much more. What seperates Whoop from other things is how it shows you the impact of your behaviors. Yes, I think Whoop was less than honest about their upgrade policy with the new 5.0 and MG release, but I still can't find anything like it. The "magic" of Whoop is that it allows you to pre-select certain behaviors that will appear in a daily journal. Each morning you take 30 seconds to check yes or no on these items, e.g. Did you consume added sugar yesterday? Did you eat a late meal? There are endless options. As times goes on, Whoop continues to show you how these behaviors are impacting your sleep so that you discover how far before bed you should stop eating, or what's the latest time of the day you can drink caffeine without it impacting your sleep (even though you may think it doesn't because you fall asleep quickly). I'm not trying to sound like an advertisement for Whoop, but I think most people evaluate Whoop without knowing what it really does. So when I run or hike I use my Ultra for reasons that don't overlap with Whoop. But the rest of the day, when wearing my SMP or Speedy, or when I sleep, I wear Whoop because it is providing overall health insights that I find valuable and have led to lifestyle changes that I may not have made otherwise--even as a person in great shape who works out six days a week.

Whoop is quite overpriced, but has my gym in a stranglehold. It’s really quite good for bjj, particularly if you use the arm sleeve accessory.

Whoop …. basically told me I’m not getting enough sleep…

I wear my whoop on my right wrist and either a mechanical watch or apple watch on my left. No one has ever asked me and no one cares. Do what you feel is right.

I have done almost 80 workouts with whoop and polar h10. The whoop is not a fitness PERFORMANCE device. It's a Comprehensive Health assessment tool. Your Garmin or any other Fitness tracker won't have as much detailed information as whoop because of the sampling frequency. But you do have to take whoop for what it is. It will miss your Peak HR and effort during your workouts because it doesn't capture the top of your heart rates unless you sustain them. Whoop HR lags and is adversely affected by movement. The data is essentially skewed a little to the "less strain" side of the spectrum. So that would in turn affect your strain score, your recovery score, your health span age data, Etc However, that being said I don't think there's another device out there that can capture as much data. I think the reviewers out there agree. While there are other devices that capture data more accurately, nothing else does EVERYTHING in one device as well as whoop. For people that cannot wear a heart rate monitor or wrist device or something else during an activity that they do on a regular basis, for example martial arts, I think the whoop is literally the only device that will capture, at least to some extent, your daily activity. I have finally, over 80 workouts, figured out a workflow (polar, samsung, trainingpeaks, and whoop integration) and the end result is you have to use a heart rate monitor if you want to do any kind of performance monitoring and performance Improvement. But I mean that is super duper in the weeds. You could just monitor your resting heart rate and HRV in the whoop over time and take note if you are getting stronger and faster. If you are and you feel like you're recovering well everyday, then I don't think it's necessary to have a chest strap heart rate monitor. But if you want to track performance metrics comprehensively in something like training Peaks, then you do need the heart rate monitor. I mean, like for very specific heart rate data like maintaining Zone 2. If you're struggling with sleep and fatigue and have concerns about Under and Over training, I think the whoop is a really great tool, but you have to actually spend the time filling out the journal and being very consistent with wearing it as much as you can. But then again like the comment above, if you don't follow the recommendations or come up with your own recommendations based on the data you are getting, then it's a waste of money. You have to want and like analysis if you're going to get your money's worth. I believe there is such a thing as not enough data and a thing such as too much data. And we are all different now that translates into information we can use. Only you'll be able to answer that. Good luck!

Will wait review seems guess is it will be more precise than whoop but worst software. Would like to keep whoop but making paying premium prime for IA customer support and answering « you wear it wrong » when asking about issues is not what I expect a company to do. « yes we know its not always good while running here is the discount for bicep band » or dreaming but « sorry you don’t get the experience we’ll send you a bicep band fro free ». That’s how you make customers loyal. Because thinking about it whoop does not have real moat so once concurrency get in market if you have the choice between a cheaper product but maybe not so good product but more accurate vs a good product but brand see you only as cash cow and does not respect you… But we will see I have the hate/love relationship with whoop. At the end thanks to it I nearly stopped alcohol and now I am starting to run to improve my vo2max (always hated running and now I want to run everyday). UPDATE : after asking whoop to cancel my renew and that I will leave to their answer and asking whoop for a bicep band whoop offered me a code and a month

When Whoop works, It's fantastic. Too many days with horribly wrong data ruins the experience.

Whoop with bicep band.

Try it. I wear AWS6, I just returned my WHOOP after trial and use Bevel with my watch. I like what I see in Bevel but for some reason miss WHOOP. I felt like it was like an active coach, the way UI was, it made me act towards a healthier me. Just the gamification aspect was enough, and considering buying one and wear it along with my AWS6. If accuracy is paramount, you should wear one of those chest straps from Polar. For me I don’t read too much into daily numbers, but mainly WoW, MoM… trends.

Been a user for 5 years now and I renewed for a year during BF. Probably gonna call it quits come November when my year is up.

I use both because my Apple Watch shows me my Hr and splits during exercise. It’s much better tool for in the moment training imo. Simply can’t do that with whoop due to no screen. I’m not pulling my phone out during a tempo 10k lol. Don’t get my wrong I love my whoop but it fills a different need more around recovery and wellbeing rather then performance.

Currently as a 24/7 product that monitors you it is probably whoop. Whoop is just way ahead of others and others are trying to catch up. The smart watches are nice but the battery doesnt last as long and honestly just too bulky to wear 24/7.

Really the whoop will only give you good data on your wrist or bicep. If you're a new user, you'll get the hardware free with a 12-month signup.  If you fill out the journal daily, it's the best tracker on the market.

yeah, i have a polar h10 as well that i used to use with strava. the whole reason i switched to the whoop after the trial was because it gets basically the same data. people act like a 10% HR difference is going to change anything about their life. it's mostly just tech gadget consumerism disguised as grievances.

whoop is about both hardware and software. it has top 25% results in sleep and HR tracking. but it also has a great app. and i barely even use the journal. before getting too excited about a competitor because it's 10% more accurate, i need to see the app, and polar's apps are notoriously bad, so hopefully they copy whoop or bevel here.

Whoop has better App than Garmin or Oura. If you are competitive and thrive on leaderboards, whoop is a solid pick but if comparing yourself to others bums you out, maybe skip it

This was exactly why I signed up for Whoop over Oura. Big mistake.... Plus until this latest update the data was wildly inaccurate (for me). Will not be renewing at the end of the year that's for sure!

I don’t - because it largely serves no purpose. Il wear a Whoop for fitness activity if needed. Like going for a run and wanting to know my distance & heart rate. How many steps I took in a day, How my sleep cycle was, current heart rate - it all really served no functional purpose to justify a digital watch to display it for me.

I SAY/THINK THIS ALL THE TIME! I used Whoop for 3 yrs but dorkily double wristed it w Garmin when running 😂 And I eventually quit bc of the subscription model, bc I’m a fitness data nerd and don’t want to pay every month for the rest of my life. I seriously can’t believe Garmin or even Apple hasn’t made a faceless strap option.

meh... I was part of an Adidas study that paid me whoop for 1 and half year. I just recently renewed as I am definitely more athletic than before. In particular the increase in sleep quantity and quality was a big factor and I could not have achieved the same level of insight with my Polar vantage v3

I used to use the whoop with bicep band it it works great in gi, however it got grabbed and flipped a lot in nogi. I switched to the boxers and haven’t looked back. It stays in place, I forget it’s there to the extent it’s taken a bath in the washer. Whoops sucks from the sub requirement perspective but it’s much better than any other wearable—I’ve used a polar and morpheus chest strap.

A user just posted side by side with Polar 10 on the same workout and the Whoop variation was almost zero

I ditched a Garmin Epix Pro 2 for my Omega Seamaster Pro and Whoop. Couldn’t be happier . I use Runkeeper for tracking run stats and audible updates that aren’t available on whoop yet.

I just switched from Garmin Epix 2 to a whoop. If you’re a serious runner, the whoop won’t cut it but the Garmin does a good job with the health insights. I’m running less, so I wanted better health insights, which is why I switched to whoop. They aren’t really comparable because they solve for two different goals.

I also use a whoop with the whoop underwear. Seems like the best setup for bjj imo

They do different things well. Whoop is better as an extra thing, not a replacement smart watch.

The HR accuracy in whoop makes it almost pointless to own.  Plus so many of the benefits from Garmin come from complete data sets, wearing the device near 24/7.

I think so. It’s a measuring device. It can only give you insights. You have to choose to act upon the info it provides. I’ve seen some people get mad at what they’re seeing and decline the device as unreliable. I’ve been wearing one since 2017 and have found the device to be remarkably consistent. It has helped me make better lifestyle choices and it has improved my health and fitness. I’m not sure what that is worth to you, but I certainly don’t have any problem paying a couple hundred dollars a year for it. Hope that helps! Best of luck to you.

Bevel has been my favorite so far. It’s a great blend of Garmin connect and whoop. When wearing my whoop(bicep) in tandem with Apple Watch the metrics match up very well in agreement. Gentler streak was pretty cool but very basic. Apple Watch native data pretty much replace what they offered in my opinion.

100% whoop, no question. Can’t really be active the same way with the ring

I did too but after a while, I saw diminishing returns plus the annual cost got crazy. Switched to an Apple Watch and can do all the things whoop can with the Bevel app but I also can control my Swingvision AND my hydrogen proton ball machine .

Sleep and all day strain tracking is whoops primary feature. Not sure why you would get it if you are not into that. Better options out there. Infact the step tracking is quite bad, and I would not wear a whoop if I cared about accurate step tracking

The other benefit with the Whoop, which I haven't seen on any other device, is the ability to wear it in different locations. I personally wear my Whoop on my wrist or bicep most of the time, but wear it in my underwear for jiu-jitsu. I expect this is also important for other combat sports, where having something on your wrist could hurt your opponent or damage the device itself.

I wear a Whoop on my other wrist.

Actually whoop does share with Apple health, you just have to really dig into whoop settings to turn it on

I do the exact same thing. Whoop always on my bicep and AW7 on my wrist. I move the Whoop to my other wrist for strength trainer. I also hate running with my phone so tracking runs on AW will give whoop gps data for more accurate measurements. Unfortunately whoop does not have gps by itself. It works really well for me because I work in surgery and can’t leave the wrist watch on 24/7 but can do so with whoop on my arm. If I could have only 1 device I’d go with Apple Watch. Btw how do you make sure that whoop doesn’t double write workouts to apple fitness. I want it to write strength trainer but currently it doubles every run I track on aw and other excercise.

I use a whoop for my all day tracking (have used oura too) and just use a garmin for my actual workout tracking- it's only worn when I'm in a workout.

I broadcast my HR from my Whoop to my Bike+ and it works perfectly. In the past I have also done it with a Garmin strap as well as various watches. It is just a matter of preference.

Just go into the Whoop app and turn on HR broadcasting, then go into the BT settings on the bike, and add it like any other HR sensor. Very easy. It should auto connect every time once you have it configured. Took me all of 30 seconds.

Check out Hume Band from Hume Health. I purchased a Hume Body Pod (smart scale) and am very happy with it. After getting the scale, they are now pitching me on the Hume Band. Looks like a Whoop clone. First, Hume BodyPod scale is excellent. Looks, build quality, the app is clear and well designed. I really like it after 2 months. FYI - I wore Whoop for 2 years and now have an Ultrahuman ring for 1.5 years. Reason to move to the Hume Band is that it will integrate with same app as the BodyPod. Haven’t done it yet.

Yeh I have both and it seems either more upfront vs small monthly (Oura) vs higher monthly with small upfront (whoop). I just prefer whoop metrics

I have both Whoop and Oura. The Whoop app is better I think - slicker and cleaner - but the actual metrics from both track very closely. Besides the form factor as personal preference the data from both is pretty much the same. And I always use a Polar h10 for heart rate during exercise anyway. I don’t intend to renew my Whoop sub. Right now I sync all my data from Oura to intervals.icu and also Apple Health with a few shortcuts I found on the internet for hrv/spo2/rhr/temp and just track everything on there now. I have found that I don’t really need AI telling me how I should be feeling. If my training load and form show I’m not going crazy and I feel ok, I’ll do a workout. If my hrv is tanking and I feel tired, then I rest. Just my humble opinion and experience. But thought I’d share.

I tried the Ultrahuman ring for a few weeks but it was uncomfortable during the night and in the gym. At the end I tried whoop and I'm still using it. It's not bad, more precise than I expected.

What do you do in the gym? What are your goals? Generally speaking, no, whoop is not the best for the gym. \- Sleep, and HR/HRV \*during sleep\*: there are studies to support whoop sleep assessments (identifying pretty well that the user is asleep and not that well in which sleep stage) ( [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32713257/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32713257/) ) and HR/HRV measurements *during sleep* ( [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36016077/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36016077/) ). I think whoop sleep and recovery data and metrics can be quite useful, together with the journal insights, to help improve habits that affect sleep and recovery. But in the end what I've learned from whoop about my habits is that "the basics work" - which doesn't require a whoop (I can elaborate on this if you'd like). \- Whoop sleep-recovery-strain “loop”: I do think the *idea* of the whoop strain target and sleep planner is brilliant: based on your recovery, the strain target would advise how much you should train that day, and based on the strain from the day, the sleep planner would advise how much you should sleep that night. But none of that has been validated; the whoop strain metric was never validated, and the same is true for the strain target and the sleep planner “sleep need” calculations. Ie- it seems like a good *idea* (hypothesis) in theory, but it hasn’t been *proven* (demonstrated) in practice. Currently, I see no compelling reason to believe that following whoop strain recommendations would be *better* than simply following a science-based training program (or simply following the physical activity guidelines for health - if that's the goal). Similarly, currently, I see no compelling reason to believe that following whoop sleep recommendations would be *better* than simply sleeping \~7-8 h per night (or enough to wake-up feeling well rested) with regular sleep/wake-up times (\~1 h window). \- HRV-based training (and therefore whoop recovery and day strain recommendation): even if we wanted to buy into the idea of the whoop sleep-recovery-strain “loop”, that wouldn’t really work if the main goal was to maximize strength (and/or muscle growth). The strain target is based on whoop recovery, which is heavily based on HRV, and HRV isn’t a reliable metric of readiness for strength training, to adjust your strength training sessions on a daily basis, based on the current overall body of research (eg- [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835520/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835520/) and [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32079921/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32079921/) ) (and hard strength training can cause a decrease in HRV – that’s not necessarily an issue if the goal is strength and/or muscle growth). \[For my strength training, I'd basically ignore HRV (and whoop recovery / day strain recommendation); I'd follow a science-based strength training program and use auto-regulation to adjust my strength training sessions on a daily basis. I think this point is always worth mentioning because whoop themselves don’t make it clear, they usually just say “training” when discussing HRV-based training (and whoop recovery / day strain recommendation), and I think that can be misleading for users with strength / hypertrophy goals.\] \- Strength trainer / muscular load: like I wrote, the whoop strain metric was never validated, and the same is true for the strength trainer / muscular load; they say it was “developed at whoop labs”, which to me sounds like “trust me bro” :) I started using the strength trainer when it was released, hoping improvements would come soon; but the muscular load, the cardio/muscular split, and the intensity didn’t match my perception at all; and it doesn’t show history/trends per exercise or velocity; I stopped using it completely, waiting for them to release improvements (which never came - then I cancelled my membership). Currently, I don't see how the whoop strength trainer would be *useful* for strength / hypertrophy. \- Calories: whoop estimate of calories burned is admittedly inaccurate. From my experience, it isn’t even reliable (“consistently inaccurate”), so even the trend isn’t useful. To the best of my knowledge, there’s no science-based way to accurately estimate calories burned using a wearable; that’s why generally wearables do a poor job at that. Are you interested in calories burned to manage your nutrition / bodyweight?

I did just that and I'm very happy with whoop. Enjoying my mechanical watches :)

I’m so glad I didn’t renew whoop yesterday. $300 saved. I can’t believe people still defend this overpriced, over marketed Fitbit.

I paid $600 in membership fees and the product hasn’t improved at all in 3 years. So clearly the time has run out for them. Bye troll ✌️

A lot of my friends have had it and have said nothing but good things about it. I like the whoop due to its battery life, the features it offers compared to competitors, the sleep score, and that you are able to use the whoop in many different forms. I hate having to wear an apple watch or garmin to bed with me but I love how whoop has the option to put wrap the device around your stomach.

As someone who has used Whoop for a year, I’m not impressed, while it was really good at tracking sleep, stress and identifying patterns, the actual sports part was very hit or miss for me. I miss the first gen Fitbit flex, extremely simple, discrete and tracked distances fairly accurate. I’m still looking for alternatives that don’t cost a ridiculous amount of money.

Tracking my hormones cycle has done wonders to me. I am forever grateful to Whoop for bringing this awareness and elevating my fitness journey.

I feel like I've never really understood the whole 'screen-free' argument for WHOOP.. With my AW I can see all my fitness metrics at a glance on my wrist, whereas with WHOOP I *have* to pull out my phone, open an app, and scroll through things. WHOOP inherently necessitates more screen engagement and on a device where you're far more likely to get sidetracked. It just feels like a lazy argument to me when people act all morally superior about 'not wanting another screen in their life'.. You can enable a focus mode / DND on AW to hide unwanted notifications, or just have some basic self restraint. And if you want more from that screen, there are countless uses. Whereas WHOOP seems like the opposite to me - the minimum amount of required screen usage is higher due to needing to use a phone, but it has none of the potential benefits of AW's versatility. Greater downside with capped upside potential. I've switched between AW and WHOOP twice each now and landed back on AW. My only reason for ever ditching it was wanting to wear my Omega instead. But WHOOP just defeated the purpose entirely - unreliable tracking and black-box, vague composite metrics just meant crap in and crap out. Was not useful. Now I just basically cycle between my Apple Watch and Omega every other week (+ AW for workouts); I care more about the trends over time than day-to-day data which is more or less the same within a week, so you're not missing out on much by not getting data every single day.

If you do any training outside bjj, the bjj data let's you implement it into your programming. Can tell you weak points and even inform your programming direction. The answer OP, is whoop, can wear the arm sleeve or bicep band and it doesn't interfere with rolling. 

I did whoop for a few years with the bicep band. I got tired of it telling me I was going to die any day. I went back to the Garmin Ecosystem. I have an epix 2 pro. I pair that with a polar bicep optical HR sensor. It tracks my stats well and allows me to track the other hobbies I have like weights and cycling. For clarity, I pair the HR monitor and toss my watch in my bag on the side of the mat. It’s never lost connection.

It sounds like you need to find a way to track it while you practice then… I don’t think have a baseline and hoping that’s going to be the norm is even worth doing… Ashtanga is such an intense practice in so many ways, and it’s going to vary too much. That’s my humble opinion My suggestion would be to look into something like Whoop… a more comfortable and specific tracker for exactly that kind of metric… something you can wear for all of your workouts and excercises… way more comfortable than an Apple watch as well… just a shame it’s so expensive :(

I went with whoop for me only needing to charge once every 14-15 days and no screen was big reasons for me. I sold my Apple Watch 10 and haven’t missed it one bit 6 months with whoop now

I've just started using Whoop as I can't sleep with the Apple watch on.

I followed a pretty typical path. Loved my whoop at first and then turned against it. I now have a Garmin and the whoop is redundant.

Same - got the new Apple ultra watch and wore it along with Whoop for two months and decided I didn’t need my Whoop

Im only a month in but I’ve stopped using my Apple Watch and primarily use whoop. Eventually I will start using both (once I find the watch lol). I love the sleep and recovery analysis and the journal tracking. Apple Watch is really good, I just forget to charge and wear it. Whoop lasts for like 2 weeks. I get wayyyy more data and insights from whoop honestly, so I think I’ll stick around for a while

Get a whoop and a pair or two of their underwear so you don't have to worry about an obtrusive band There's a fitness app called Sobo, by GIGO Dev, that integrates with whoop and has BJJ specific activity tracking From what I understand you don't even need a whoop membership just the device itself

I’ve used Whoop for 2 years now, and yes, as a habits and health correlation tracker it is excellent. The whoop is data centric, and can have extensive criteria’s added to it through the journals feature. I would offer, it’s most suited to someone’s fitness style that is relatively urban, more than outdoorsy though. The Whoop’s lack of in-built GPS and reliance on data coverage are its major downfalls.

I've also been looking into this. The best I have seen is the whoop, unless you want to wear another watch. I am sure Fitbit used to do a non screen version but they don't look to exist anymore.

I prefer my whoop as I like to wear actual watches

That’s the benefit of seeing your data clearly presented every day - you don’t need to be a doctor to review it.

Why didn’t you try Whoop? This is exactly what you want

Accuracy of the apple watch is significantly lower - theres a third party, peer reviewed journal article somewhere that says as much. I can confirm, I’ve had an Apple Watch Ultra and whoop for 2+ years.

May I ask why ? Subscription fee ? I had whoop a couple years ago. After some time I stopped using it on a regular basis and couldn’t justify the cost. Looking forward for the polar one and what will it bring to the table. Would get Helio but unreliable data experiences told by some puts me off. Edit. Ended up buying Helio after watching the release of loop which didn’t convince me. Will test it and see how it goes.

Whoop at bicep has worked well for me, you can turn it around to where it won’t get hit. I used a Garmin for a while by flipping it to the inside of wrist but I got a callous on my wrist with the skin being rubbed raw by the kb on the silicon band. Criticism of these is they aren’t as accurate as heart rate straps which is undoubtedly true but I’ve found whoop on bicep has been good enough. Wrist Garmin for me was totally inaccurate, would read 130bps for hard hiit sessions whereas whoop is registering 180+ (and is how I feel)

Just bought a Whoop yesterday. Wanted a fitness tracker for awhile but didn’t want to be one of those people wearing two watches…I like it so far! It’s honestly the only option besides an oura ring if you don’t want to wear two watches and have your luxury timepiece be completely redundant and/or just jewelry.

I use Whoop. I do use their garments (sports bra, underwear, compression shorts), but I have used tape or large bandaid to put it on under a different sports bra. I’ve been using Whoop for a couple years now And for me it works well across different activities.

Thank you and I totally agree. Is it not made for running? Maybe. However, the whoop app also tells you to take one at least 15 minute gps tracked run per week, for accurate vo2max estimates. And yea for the price point, the amount of data/stats you see is a joke. Especially since the software apart from that is very high end, nice graphs, detailed statistics, trends, etc. I mean for the strength trainer e.g. being able to see the Heartrate for each set of an exercise, etc. And then for running? Have your average speed and be happy. At least the most basic stats would be very welcome. It feels like they have a deal with Strava to get you to purchase their subscription on top, to get those stats finally. Fortunately I have an old watch laying around that does all this, so I just run with both, especially nicer since it has a display and I can see my stats live. But it's kind of a downgrade from running with only a watch, to now have the whoop, phone AND watch. Whereas phone and whoop are just so the data in my whoop is complete.

I double it up - Apple Watch Ultra 2 on one wrist and Whoop on the other. I don't want to sleep with the AW, and I like Whoop's metrics and analysis. My husband is Whoop-only and trains/races by RPE.

I also do BJJ and whoop is the best option for now. There is also helio strap and polar is coming up with alternative soon, so more options are popping up

There are always whiners in the world. With every new Whoop, there’s a subset of people who complain about the price or features. I wish they got off on being active as much as they do complaining.

I've worn Whoop (almost) exclusively for the past 1.5 years. I recently bought a Fitbit Versa 4 as I'm excited to see what Google are doing with Fitbit Coach this autumn. I wear both for training and sleep, using the Versa 4 primarily for outdoor runs. The metrics from each are largely identical for sleep and training.

It doesn't even need to be a super fancy thing. I'd be all over the whoop already if it wasn't for the ridiculous subscription fee. Give me a screenless band with sensors on it so I can wear an analog watch sometimes! I'm always surprsied at the apparent lack of market for that type of thing because regardless of price point the only option seems to be the whoop and I would be willing to drop a couple hundred on a nice tracker band but I'm not willing to sign up for hundreds of dollars a year in subscriptions. I don't need that level of data, I just need a step counter, sleep tracker, and heart rate sensor.

What fitness items are you trying to track? Whoop does basic stuff well but the step tracking was awful when I gave up on whoop mid November.

I've worn both for 4 years. I wear the Whoop 24/7; and the Apple Watch Ultra only during the day to track workouts, texts, music etc.

Funny how this stuff works. Had an AW, but only started paying attention to metrics when I switched to Whoop. Got tired of the metrics not aligning to how I felt (and their pivot on the business model was the nail in the coffin), so went back to AW as I preferred it for general use and gave Bevel a shot. Especially after this latest update last week, Bevel is bang on and has much more intuitive features and layout than Whoop. The nutrition tracking and short/long term memory AI coach are a chef’s kiss. Stoked to upgrade to the latest AW to get the last two metrics I’m missing: temperature and SpO2.

Yes, under a few conditions. Do you have an above average understanding of data especially numbers? Averages? Percentages? Graphs? Do you understand the difference between precision and accuracy? Lastly and most importantly, are you patient with technology, especially software that’s continuously developing? If you have most of these things you will probably like Whoop. If you expect perfection from software stay away.

One word… shit. Miles off Apple Watch

No. It is a scam. And then they don’t let you cancel despite contacting them in advance. You get enough info from your Apple Watch this will not tell you anything more than you already intuitively know. I attempted to cancel my whoop membership prior to the annual renewal and was not able to and here was the response: “Your account is currently on an annual plan that remains active through its first-year commitment. Because the plan is still within that commitment period, the option to disable auto-renewal isn’t available just yet. Once you reach the final month of your current term, you’ll be able to schedule a cancellation so that your membership won’t renew for another year” That was on 6/23 So here I am today in a circle j3rk with their AI team and 30 minutes phone time with my bank disputing the charges.

Also, whoop over estimates steps vs Apple Watch and under estimates workouts vs Apple

I used to!!! Glad my whoop membership expired. Apple’s updates particularly in the sleep area negated having both. Also, if you cancel in advance, make sure it actually cancels because they charged me anyway, and then were extremely rude when I called them out.

I also changed from WHOOP to AWU3 + Bevel. I have no regrets. I was very bothered about WHOOP’s low accuracy, high subscription prices, and the company’s response to the FDA on their Blood Pressure Insights feature.

Im a regular player and find Whoop to be excellent at capturing the data. I dont need to do anything as it recognises it automatically. The only thing I cant say is the accuracy as I have only very briefly compared it to my Samsung Galaxy smartwatch for a few sessions and it was aligned.

I wear a whoop and an apple watch. I use my apple watch as mini phone and dont rely on it health / fitness wise at all. I sometimes wear a normal watch as well. I keep my whoop on my right wrist.

I personally use a H10 every run and have my whoop on my bicep. My experience has been the opposite of yours. Looking at BPM averages for exercise, the only variance tends to be due to the whoop auto sensed workouts being a few minutes off at the end which brings the average down by a small percentage. Outside of this, they're almost in parity.

switch, I was a whoop member from 2017-2023. Ultra + bevel or Athlytic will do the job better then whoop and for a lot less money. easy choice…..

I was a 6 year user of whoop. I gave up on them last November. Bought the ultra 2 with athlytic and never looked back. I feel like I get better data with this combo. The ultra is the way to go!

I’ve been using a Whoop off and on for ~3 years. It’s useful up to a point, then its utility falls off. Overall, I don’t think they’re necessary, but they can be helpful. It really is helpful to learn big picture what will positively and negatively impact your sleep. Some commenters here are saying it that you don’t need a device to tell you if you slept well or not. I disagree because your intuition about good/bad sleep isn’t as accurate as you think beyond obvious “I was awake all night” scenarios. That said, once you learn what associates with good sleep and what associates with bad sleep, you don’t really need to keep tracking things (note that this requires journaling what ‘lifestyle’ things you did each day in order to look for patterns; Whoop handles this in its app and crunches the numbers for you). Some things are no brainers: drink 2+ alcoholic drinks that night? Shit sleep. Some may surprise you though, and you can then make decisions around training/racing/etc., accordingly. E.g., I get less deep sleep when my dog sleeps in bed with me, despite not really noticing any problems falling asleep/staying asleep. HRV is pretty much useless and overhyped, imo. “Good” HRV days can be great for training/racing or can be complete shit. Same goes for “bad” HRV days. Its predictive ability is way lower than how you feel overall and where you are in your training (i.e., are you 3 weeks overdue for a recovery week?). HRV may work better for other sports, but I pretty much ignore the “recovery” metric that Whoop calculates from HRV. Two other considerations for a fitness tracker: (1) I like seeing data trends long term, which Whoop and others let you do. (2) Whoop can be pretty good at detecting when you’re getting sick *before* you start feeling sick, based on skin temp, respiratory rate, etc.

I like WHOOP because I like wearing an actual watch and wearing a screen smartwatch on my other wrist would make me look like a retard.

One more pro is that in this life full of distractions - Whoop doesn’t keep going off all day with notifications from apps and people. Really helps stay focus and does it job as effective. My apple watch keeps going off every now and them distracting me both during workouts as well as during office!

Can confirm whoop isn’t worth it at all. I regret it

I was v excited for the Polar Loop and now looking at the user interface (UI) i'm seriously disappointed. It reminds me of the blocky UI that Fitbit had. The design is so outdated for 2025. I'm gonna continue with my Whoop and keep tabs on what Polar does and how they improve the loop. Until they fix that god awful UI, I'm out!

I have an AW, Oura, and Whoop and recently ditched the Whoop. The Whoop was great but a bit more than I needed stat wise. Because I’m a longtime user of Whoop I don’t pay a subscription so that factored into my decision. However, one thing Whoop has over Oura is it doesn’t scratch. (But scratches don’t bother me). For me it’s Oura for the win.

Come on, man. Whoop is objectively expensive compared to other wearables that provide similar data. They know it, and they justify it with the promise of updates as part of the subscription - not by gating new features under higher tiers. If you’re fine with the value proposition, good for you. But this price hike is pretty absurd and it’s not whining to question Whoop’s business practices here.

I guess this all comes down to personal preference. I was an avid Apple Watch user until I switched to whoop earlier this year. Best decision I’ve ever made. I have enough screens in my face all day. It’s nice to have a device like whoop which is a nice break from constant notifications whilst doing its job well.

Thank you for your detailed feedback, it’s funny to see such different experiences. As for me, I tested the Amazfit Helio Strap right after the Whoop, and honestly, it's night and day. First of all, in terms of quality, the Helio doesn’t measure up. The heart rate readings are “similar” on paper, but for everything else, it just doesn’t work for me: Sleep tracking is honestly a failure (it invented naps when I never take any). The integrated AI is useless: no personalized analysis, nothing smart about my data. The overall experience is so much worse than Whoop that I don’t even want to continue: after the first night, I already wanted to send it back! I’d give it a 4/10, not more, even if I’m not completely ruling it out for the future. Whoop is clearly in another league by comparison, whether it’s the app, the advice, the sense of quality, or the user experience. My impression was so different that I understand why there are posts with people trying to put a Whoop strap on Amazfit gear! It just goes to show that everyone has their own experience, but for me, Whoop is far superior.

Personally, I actually see it the other way around. I feel like Whoop is starting to take a whole new direction, focused on health, and that's really exciting. With the recent addition of blood analysis and soon nutrition tracking, plus the upcoming AI that will proactively contact you if it detects anything strange in your metrics, without you even needing to open the app, I think Whoop is going much further than just helping beginners build good fitness habits. For me, that's not something you outgrow as you get more experienced; it's exactly the reason to stay with Whoop for the long term. Having a tracker that adapts, anticipates, and warns you about potential health issues is next-level compared to standard fitness bands. So, while I understand Helio might be good for people who simply want accurate numbers after they've learned the basics, Whoop is clearly moving into a space that's far beyond a simple fitness tool. This new direction is brilliant, and it's why I don't want to switch to anything else right now.

Honestly, that’s a good question about the value. Here’s how I see it: If you compare something like ChatGPT (which is $20/month, so $240 per year), Whoop gives you the AI plus continuous health tracking, daily stats, and soon things like blood analysis and nutrition monitoring, all built into the app. About seeing a doctor: It’s important, of course, but several recent studies show that AI systems (like Microsoft’s latest health models and GPT-4) actually perform better than doctors when it comes to complex diagnoses. For example, Microsoft’s AI diagnosed 85.5% of real medical cases correctly, compared to only about 20% for experienced physicians, in a large study published in July 2025. AI can also give better recommendations with fewer unnecessary tests and can spot trends across all your health data. That doesn’t mean we should get rid of human doctors; the best results usually come when AI supports them, especially for routine care and for handling emotions or rare cases. But having access to this kind of health analysis and proactive alerts all year round, rather than just a quick visit now and then, is a massive difference. That’s why I think the subscription is justified: you’re not just paying for basic stats, you’re paying for groundbreaking health insight and constant monitoring that you can’t get for free or with most trackers. For me, having this new level of AI-driven health support is worth the cost, and it’s exactly what I want in 2025.

Absolutely, I totally agree! It makes a lot of sense for insurance companies to partner with Whoop and offer a free or discounted subscription as part of their coverage. It’s a win-win: users get real health monitoring all year, and insurers can improve prevention, early detection, and potentially reduce healthcare costs. Plus, it motivates people to take care of themselves and can help avoid serious health issues, so everyone benefits: users, insurers, and Whoop. I really hope this kind of partnership becomes more common, it’s clearly the way forward!

You should give the trial a go, see how it works and then you can make a decision. I was on the fence with whoop for years, even tried the Helio strap but I love my whoop and have subscribed for the year.

I really like the Oura ring. The Whoop is great, too, but you already have an Apple watch, which is worn in a similar manner as the Whoop so the different form factor would be good so you can wear the Oura and AW at the same time.

Well i can state my story here for what it is worth and your consideration. First I always found smart watches strange because WTF would I want a second device to tell me what my phone already does? My phone is on my person 100% of the time. I saw no value in that and in fact something that would just give me MORE notifications. Don't we already get enough? However I DID see the value in a fitness tracker. I have owned an Oura ring, fitbit, and a whoop, because that made a whole lot more sense to me (Still does). Anyway, I got a free $300 OnePlus Watch 2 as a promo when i bought my new phone, so I got a smartwatch anyway. Basically a Android version of the Apple watch. Sure enough within weeks i took it off - as it was exactly what i expected, a near useless extension of my phone. ....buuuuuut it did teach me the value of a watch as a fitness tracker. SO rather than have a medicore fitness tracker, I got the top of the line garmin (970). And when i bought my garmin i immediately turned off ALL notifications so it remains a strictly fitness watch which BTW I find extremely motivating. I can honestly say this purchase improved my life and health. Anyway - there is zero question here. An Apple watch is a better *Smartwatch* (dismal battery aside). And Apple Health app is very cool actually. But Garmin is a better fitness tracker - the software there is incredible.

So awesome to only need to charge the Whoop every 14ish days as well, compared to the Apple Watch everyday

If you want to be coached into developing better habits, especially fitness, Whoop. I find it the most motivating option out there.  I know you didn’t ask, but side note for others - Garmin is the opposite - demotivating as it punishes for not meeting arbitrary goals (ie high aerobic if you are during a bad training phase or do polarised training), whereas Whoop is simply gently encouraging. 

I had a whoop but I never changed by training plan based on its results (which I found to be generally uninformative), so I eventually decided, what's the point?

I wanted to share my experience with WHOOP in case others have gone through the same thing. • My WHOOP device failed at the end of August. • Support had me go through all the usual troubleshooting steps — no fix. • I was told a replacement had been “processed” and would ship. • It’s now been nearly two weeks and my order is still showing as “processing”. • I’ve exchanged 24+ emails with Support. The replies are all scripted apologies and vague “please wait” responses. • Their site promises 3–5 days for new orders, yet for a replacement I’ve paid almost $500 for, I’ve received nothing. • Compensation? Just a single month’s credit — nothing close to reasonable for this level of failure. • I’ve asked for a refund policy and escalation, but I keep getting ignored. This is beyond frustrating. I’ve started escalating on LinkedIn with WHOOP employees, and if I don’t see action immediately, I’ll be filing complaints and going through my bank for a chargeback. I really like the concept of WHOOP, but this experience has been awful. Has anyone else gone through something similar? How did you finally get WHOOP to act?

I switched from a Whoop to a Garmin watch because of the yearly fee Whoop requires. I use it along with my FasCat Coach App to adjust my daily workout based on my nightly data.

I have an Apple Watch Ultra and a Whoop. Currently struggling with Covid and AW gave me a 75 sleep score, Whoop gave me a 14 in recovery.

Lol, it's possible to like the product, dislike the company ethics, dislike the overpriced subscription and still participate here. It's a community based around a product but underpinned by a set of interests. Even when ditch the whoop IO'll stoll be checking out posts here as there have been some insanely valuable insights from this community. Non whoop related 8/10 times

Whoop can track 24x7. it's fully waterproof and charges while on your wrist using a battery pack.

I had Apple Watch and didn’t really like it and I think whoop is better. Never had a garmin so Can’t speak to that. My freind has an aura ring and it looked the same as whoop with all the same stats and if I was a girl I would prob just get that bc it’s lower profile😭😭 but I just don’t wanna wear a ring around Edit but also whoop is def more health and wellness focused then fitness and training. But if you do the same lifts every week and only change every 6 weeks like I do it’s easy and I log them each week and just change the numbers real quick and the workouts are already saved.

a developer not realizing the work that whoop has put into its algos/models to reach the top 5 in the industry for hr/sleep accuracy doesn’t bode well.

If you take fitness seriously and want some serious data and or you practice a sport where you can’t wear a watch, Whoop. If you just want a watch that counts your steps and records the odd weight lifting session or run, Apple Watch.

I’m pretty new to Whoop. Overall, Whoop is the best fitness tracker I’ve used by far, but the lack of screen/GPS is a disadvantage for endurance training. I tried wearing my Whoop and Suunto Race S on opposite wrists for a few weeks, but it was unnecessary and a little annoying. Now I only do so when exercising. If I were you, I would buy an entry-level running watch (Garmin Forerunner 55, Suunto Run, etc.) and a chest strap and wear them only when you’re running. That will provide you with excellent GPS and heart rate accuracy on your runs. Unless you are trying to compete very seriously in endurance events, that would be more than enough for a beginner or intermediate runner. Most of the other running metrics that advanced Garmins can produce are just not necessary or worth the price for most people. And I doubt you’ll want to drop $800 on a fancy Garmin to only use it while running a few times a week.

No. Used it for 3 years.

FYI, I found Whoop to be super inaccurate for tracking heart rate / effort while swimming.

This clearly proves that it’s possible to build reliable wrist sensors, it’s a matter of hardware engineering. Apple proved it before, now a cheap brand proves it again. Still, a lot of people claim that whoop is as accurate as a wrist sensor can be… yeah, that’s correct, but only if we think about outdated sensors, which is what whoop is selling us. As for sleep, that’s purely software, it’ll get better.

TLDR: wipes the floor with whoop in terms of sensor accuracy. App needs improvements. Next turn: polar. Not sure what was whoop thinking when they lost an opportunity to introduce an actually accurate sensor in 5.0. Terrible decision. Software can be shipped iteratively (that’s what amazfit and polar will do), hardware can’t.

But that’s it, what needs improvement is software, can change. They got the hardware right. That can’t change, and whoop is stuck with a bad sensor that flaws all their metrics.

so i love my whoop but i recently lost the charging pack and the pack is sold out on whoops website. i just paid for my annual subscription but am now unable to use my watch. when i contacted whoop all they said was “wait for the charger to come back in stock” i am very frustrated with this whole situation and whoop as a company and want to switch over to something else. i love all the information whoop offers and im having a hard time finding something that matches up. polar seems like a great option but does it have a strain tracker like whoop has?

Whoop with an arm sleeve for training, my whoop gives me the exact same data as a garmin chest strap when I wear it with the arm sleeve so not sure why people are saying whoop is not accurate, most wrist trackers aren’t, especially while training.

No problem. Yeah it's a tough one. Say Whoop was a one-off price, rather than a subscription model to align it with the other products but everything else about the experience was the same, I think I'd be willing to pay £200-300 for the device, even taking into account the current price of the competition.

Amazfit Helio seems to be top dog now. Better sensors than the WHOOP and Polar Loop, they're pushing updates quite rapidly, and at a killer price point. I'm sure more accessories/colors will follow Riding out this whoop subscription until October, then happily jumping ship to Amazfit.

Interesting, thanks for the perspective. I heard they made some big updates to the Sleep HR tracking recently to address the issue. Honestly, for the price difference and speed of updates, I think they'll reach a place where it becomes a true no brainer. For me, Whoop pulling the upgrade fee move was the last straw.

Seconding. I’ve been using/wearing whoop regularly for almost 5 years. I like to have the data but I don’t necessarily use it for anything of value. The biggest bonus of Whoop in particular, is that I’m always wearing a HR strap. It’s unobtrusive on my upper arm, and I can charge it while wearing. So I never take it off. I also never have to remember to put on a Hr strap. For any activity, it’s tracked. Hike, run, swim, tennis, etc. so I like that. But I could stop wearing it an anytime and not change my training at all.

For real. I wear whoop as a bicep strap and it’s amazing. But I would prefer it to be Garmin. Especially as they don’t capture gps.

I wear whoop on bicep and a mechanical watch on the wrist. Easy and no one will keep asking you what that think without a screen is

Can confirm I am not a fan of Whoop. It serves a different purpose than my current Garmin.

Yeah, I pretty much use it for telling time and quick glances at texts. I have a whoop on my other (bare skin) wrist that I actually use as a fitness tracker.

Love it, competition is a good thing. Please have a haptic alarm that vibrates like whoop, thats the one thing they got right, one of the main reasons i still have a whoop honestly.

I have that combo. But removed my whoop today since it's the end of the sub and won't renew it. Whoop is a nice device. I don't agree the the company policy changes and I will move on with my life without whoop. But if you want it, if you like it, go for it. It was my combo for 1 year and it was perfect. Garmin for sports tracking, whoop for recovery analytics.

A client gifted me a whoop. Expensive but honestly I like it quite a bit. Price point is high but if it fits in yours... I would say worth it.

Is it as comfy to sleep with? I have a garmin fenix 6 and cant sleep with that but can with the whoop

I had whoop for two months when I realized the data wasn't worth $30. Also, none of you whoop users are more athletic or knowledgeable than another person who uses a smart watch and an oura ring. This company has been trash. The smart fitness device equilivalent to air Jordan's. If you wear this you'll be an athlete lmao

That's fair. I'm seeing more gains with the Garmin daily workout recommendations and recovery metrics from my oura plus I never have that irritating and stinky whoop strap. Also the Garmin watch lasts a full 25-30 days per charge or more with solar. Also one time payment

I’m definitely cancelling mine now, over the Whoop hype. Was excited to see they had a nice update and deflated after I saw they went back on their word about not charging for future hardware. Peace out Whoop you shot your self in the foot✌️

I have been dual wearing AWU and whoop for a couple years now. Definitely recommend giving Athlytic/bevel/sonar a go. Early on, the various apps, were not as good as Whoop in terms of interpreting your data into valuable insights. They are pretty much on par these days. If you already have an Apple watch, those apps have basic free tiers, So you can wear both and compare for a while. Do a monthly subscription for whichever app you like the best. With most of the recent apple watches, you can probably get away with fast charging while you're in the shower only, so effectively it's worn all of the time.

After my "free" year ran out (it was a gift) I switched to Apple Watch and Athlytic (have played with Bevel but the cost is too high and prefer Athlytic). I'd never go back to Whoop personally. Sleep tracking is fine, I use Athlytic for that coupled with Apple Sleep app. Only thing I miss from Whoop is it tracking activity automatically. I often forget to track workouts but I am much less bothered by the whole "quantised self" self-optimisation that we keep getting sold (even more so since reading Psychopolitics, but I digress). I did get on fine with Athlytic and SE but moved to Ultra a couple of years back. All good. AMA.

Does it have to be a watch? I love my Whoop because it's low maintenance and I forget it's on until I get the notification to charge it. I love my Garmin Instinct Tactical (I'm active duty military so it's dual purpose), but I have to take it off whenever I use wrist wraps or my grips during a WOD.

I think you should probably look at the Whoop instead of the Apple Watch. It's a little more fitness-focused that the Apple Watch, and it can get 5 days of battery life.

I wear a whoop in my right wrist.

Agreed. I own an Apple Watch Ultra, a garmin instinct, an aura ring and a whoop. There is no perfect fitness tracker, they all have pros and cons. People who give a black and white “x is better than y” always get a raised eyebrow from me.

I wear an Apple Watch on my wrist and the whoop on my bicep - both on my left arm. I basically use the watch for time and workout tracking and whoop for everything else

Been a Whoop user for 3 years and it's pretty good (aside from the subscription part). You can buy Whoop clothing (e.g. boxers) to have the tracker away from your wrist if you don't like it there during certain activities.

I have a Garmin Fenix 7S Pro alongside my Whoop. I wore both for a week or two and found the sleep data on the Garmin to be relatively similar to the Whoop, albeit in a visualization and data representation that was exponentially worse. A big part of the appeal with a Whoop is being able to wear it all night without noticing it’s on my wrist. The Garmin is much bulkier and leaves a noticeable impression on my wrist no matter how tight or loose I wear the band. The only reason I still use the Garmin is because I like to see comparative HR data when working out to ensure my Whoop isn’t getting a bad reading - in some cases I have to adjust the position of my Whoop slightly in order to mitigate false readings. Once that is “calibrated”, I can put the phone away and just rely on the Garmin to inform me on my HR.

I tuck mine into the band of my sports bra. Works great and you can tell Whoop it's in a compression top without buying one of their special gathers.

In terms of accuracy, the device you will actually wear will be the best for you. None of these devices are 100% accurate for sleep tracking. But they all do a decent enough job. If you are looking for the most accurate, Apple watch does seem to hold a small edge over both garmin and whoop when compared to a chest strap according to both TQS and DC Rainmaker -- two of the biggest reviews. I do think AW does a much better job of detecting sleep - it just knows. With garmin it mostly looks at my set times and with whoop I am constantly telling it Im done sleeping. But I'd argue that the difference in accuracy doesnt matter for most people other than the most serious athletes. What matters most is what you need. Need a smartwatch with a screen? Go apple or garmin. Longest battery life? Garmin. LTE? AW. Dont want to or cant wear a smart watch but want the data? Whoop. Cheapest? AW SE or cheap garmin. I do think whoop is overpriced for what it is compared to its competition. I've worn both garmin and AW for many years. Currently have a garmin 955 and AW. I am doing the Whoop trial. There is nothing one of these devices really does better in terms of 'health' that another doesnt. They all tell me my sleep, all tell me my HR, and all tell me my HRV. Pick the one you think you will use and wear the most. Don't overthink it.

Have an AW and currently doing whoop trial. The thing whoop is giving me is wildly inaccurate HR readings. Just for example, Did a casual bike ride with my child yesterday afternoon and whoop gave me a 187 high HR. This was a really slow like 4 block bike ride. AW said 108hr peak. Ive biked hard, ran as hard as possible doing max HR tests with my H10 chest strap and never hit above high 160s. Im not sure whats going on but its been doing this type of odd HR readings all week. Id really encourage you to do a trial before putting any money in whoop. Even if the HR was accurate Im not getting anything AW doesnt give me. Im realizing whoop is for people that dont want a smartwatch or cant wear a smartwatch for work reasons. Its a step down from AW.

I have Whoop, Oura, and an Apple Watch. Kinda overkill, but interesting all at the same time.

" My main priorities are reliable heart rate tracking, HRV, and sleep data, while also needing good accuracy during high-intensity workouts." If you dont mind sacrificing a little on sleep data (and even that is not so different) you will get AW for sure because is top accuracy for everything Mark my words here... Whoop struggles specially on runs and intervals , you can trial it but if you even compare to a chest strap you will be disappointed =) many people dont even compare and when they do you see a new "surprise" post here every day questioning all previous data they had on whoop If they would let you connect some chest strap maybe I would also advise whoop but this way is a waste of money

Yes, 100%. There are way too many haters in this sub. If you use it right, Whoop is an amazing tool. I also had an Apple Watch (for almost 6 years) and wanted something for my health and fitness without a screen. It was the best purchase of 2024 for me. I missed my Apple Watch exactly 0 times.

I enjoyed watching your review. The one thing you didn't cover with Whoop is the AI Coach capabilities along with the Whoop's ability to important and analyze both blood test results and nutrient information from third party apps like MacroFactor. All of these things are very unique to Whoop and are huge differentiators. I'm new to Whoop (30 days in) and I'm blown away by some of the questions you can ask the AI Coach when all these data sources are integrated with the Whoop app.

Thanks! I figured there was just so much you can cover in a single review. I thought it was important to mention the whole AI analysis feature because many of the online reviewing seem to leave this out of their evaluations and it really is a game changer. The AI Coach alone justifies the much higher cost of the Whoop subscription. Yesterday I asked the Whoop AI to look at my nutrient intake and recommend changes to help improve my workouts and overall health. It actually grabbed the macro and micro nutrient data that I have been logging in MacroFactor and then went on to recommend that I up my intake of Omega Fatty Acid supplements and then add a behaviour in the Journal section of the app to track the effects of taking a daily Omega supplement. Kinda cool.

Absolutely not. Just switched to whoop and wish I’d done it sooner.

To note, I’m currently on the trial, 2.5 weeks in and a few anomalies have completely thrown my averages. To the point where the data makes little sense e.g. I’ve had two days where my HRV has been 160, my average is therefore something like 55-70, whereas my actual average based on the majority of my readings is closer to 35-40. Because of Whoops weighting of HRV on recovery, I’m living in a constant state of red recoveries, in spite of all other metrics being within range, within strain limits and with a very good sleep score. Point being - I’m veering towards letting it run another few weeks to a month to see if this balances out, problem is free trial is done by then and my annual amount will have already left my account. So not really sure if the trial is worth it on this basis. Unless I myself am an anomaly.

Bevel is an exact clone of Whoop, not Garmin

What are you saying? Whoop certainly will broadcast your HR…I use it daily

Yup. I treat Whoop as my main fitness tracker/health monitor but also wear a Garmin Tactix 8 or AW Ultra depending on what I feel like wearing that day.

I used a whoop for a few years. This is my biggest issue with the device, that it doesn’t allow you to use a more accurate chest strap and insists that you depend entirely on the optical wrist (or bicep) sensor. Ended up going back to Garmin.

I'd think Whoop with a bicep band just to be extra subtle. No gps or anything but it does a good job with load, stress and calories burned.

Yeah I’m on their list too, and I plan to support them if they actually make something, but I am not holding my breath. Product development is expensive. Also the sensor will slide around on your wrist—more so your biceps, I suspect. Whoop has a pretty elegant solution to that problem, which is probably why it’s been pretty much the same scheme for so many generations.

I did use the AW Ultra with Bevel and Gentler Streak. Can definitley recommend trying both apps on the free trial and see what fits your needs. Since I do not like to wear a watch in bed I‘ll stick to my Whoop for 24/7 tracking. Only use my AW when I need to record GPS (e.g. on water rowing).

I ditched my Apple Watch for whoop. Would not recommend I did a trial in summer of 2024 and used my main email address, but didn’t keep the device and sent it back at the end of the trial. I did another trial this summer using a secondary email, ended up liking the device the this time and decided to keep it, sold my Apple Watch, paid the $300, and I had WHOOP close my original account from 2024, so that I could update the email address on my current account (2025) to my primary email. Horrible mistake. This has completely bricked my account. I’ve been on the phone with WHOOP several times and we’ve been emailing over the last week trying to get back into my account, and there seems to be no fix available whatsoever. I can’t get on the account using my primary email, I can’t get on the account using my secondary email, and WHOOP recommended that I just make a new email address, stating that this would fix the issue. So I made a random email JUST for WHOOP, and they responded saying they updated the email address and that I should be able to login. I cannot. The account is still bricked, and I still cannot login. They’re also refusing to refund my money (even though I started my $300 membership just 57 days ago) but offered me a 1 month membership credit ON THE ACCOUNT THAT I CANNOT ACCESS.

I wear both, the Apple Watch is an extension of my iPhone and I use Whoop for tracking health data, Whoop Coach is a nice feature that I believe adds value

Same, Whoop feels less lame.

Get both if you can afford(aw se/ what you already have would be sufficient). Whoop can do measurements passively, more frequently than aw like every second. This can help to observe stress, hr throughout the day and infer how your body responds to workouts, diets etc. Compared to aw the hr readings might be off a bit, this can be offset to an extent using bicep band. Im using with bicep band and hr is sometimes off by 2-3 beats compared to a polar verity sense. Based on my observations whoop has better sleep tracking that aligns with how i feel. With apple watch you can track workouts live, observe zones, pace, take calls, has crash/ fall detection for safety. Compared to whoop, have to charge aw frequently. If only one could help you meet your needs use only one of them.

Been using my Apple Ultra with Athlytic along with my whoop in comparison for the last 4-5months just incase whoop pulled this with the upgrade. Athlytic largely gets you all the data whoop does so they just made very easy mentally for me to cancel

I've got a Garmin, Fitbit, and Whoop...I honestly appreciate what each offers. If I had to be limited to one, it would be the Garmin...I'll refer to it as the Swiss Army knife as it covers all my needs more so than the other devices.

I think the whoop is worth the investment

Same thing happened to me. I just canceled my order completely. Especially after reading everyone else’s posts on here.

They said I had to wait for my order to be delivered, return it and then place another order with it included. My order wasn’t even processed yet, let alone shipped. Yet they couldn’t modify the order after it’s been placed. Seems like BS to me. Like I said, I tried to cancel the order completely but they couldn’t do it. So now I’ll just return it when I get it without placing another one after. I’m over whoop completely at this point. I’ll just wait until the new Apple Watch Ultra 3 and the new Apple fitness+ plans come out in the fall.

100% from a pure data collection perspective Whoop is the best due to that

He wears it on his bicep to get that data. Most users wear the Whoop on their wrists where the data is not nearly as accurate.

They are only insights taken through the night while sleeping, at your most relaxed state, they are not going to be very useful. The Whoop can't take true BP measure measurement, it will be using some algorithm with your heart rate to give you a number.

It isn't a blood pressure monitor, it gives you insights about your blood pressure, not a true blood pressure reading.

Yes it will meet your needs and the data you get will be more accurate than any that Whoop provided for you. The watch, any Apple Watch, can do what Whoop does and so much more. As another poster has said if you like the Whoop app Bevel is the closest you will come to it, it is a great replacement for Whoop converts, it is more a health and wellness focused like Whoop. If you are more interested in training and fitness data Livity, PeakWatch and Athlytic are great apps. All of them will give you the same kind of scores that Whoop did.

Here's something i haven't seen mentioned here, and especially since you mentioned sleep data—how do you plan on sleeping with the Apple Watch? I personally found it to be very uncomfortable compared to the whoop.

I use both Whoop and Apple Watch Ultra 2. Whoop I wear 24/7 while I only use the AW Ultra for workouts and times I do not wear my mechanical watch.

Apple Watch for sure. I used my whoop for a while and the HR was wildly inaccurate. I could be sweating and tired on a high resistance portion on the bike and my HR would only show zone1-2….. I find my HR accuracy with my Apple Watch.

Whoop literally changed my life. It’s amazing. The people hating on it I have nothing better to do

Ive tried a few and here’s my feedback. Apple watch: it’s a smart watch not a fitness watch. It has improved recently (the latest models should be significantly more accurate than the one I had 4+ years ago) however for me personally it’s the distraction element that I do not like. I do not need another screen. Fitbit; data is ok for a beginner, but definitely not great or accurate for someone training 5-6x a week and combining cardio, sports, weights etc. Whoops: no screen which is a major + for me. Can wear it on wrist, bicep or underwear. Really good measurement of sleep and calculation of sleep/down time based on your daily activity. That helps a lot plan your sleep and have better recovery and as a consequence, perform great in the following day. I am quite curious to try Oura and Garmin (even though I’d hate to go back to screen wearables) maybe i’ll get one of them next year but so far, Whoop is 100% the best Fitness tracker out there imo. In addition, I’ve realized that in all High End resorts that I’ve been in the past 3 years, people wear 2 things: a rolex or a whoop 😂 so as a Henry I guess that’s a good indicator.

This is the way if you want “very accurate” HR data. I have a Whoop and love it for tracking recovery but all wrist based devices suck at determining HR while rowing or erging.

I have both a Garmin and a Whoop. Whoop provides invaluable data on recovery and sleep metrics, but doesn’t provide detailed workout analysis like a Garmin. I use Whoop recovery insights to determine how hard I push my training.

Had whoop for 2 years but just stopped using it. I bought a polar loop and very happy with that. No subscription and does the basics: sleep, hrv, strain very well

Reddit is anti-whoop but I love it

many wanted this to work so bad (myself included) - but think i will stick to whoop for 1 more year, see if polar's promised app updates really come through

I didn’t get on with whoop - the band went loose when I swam and it would get HR cadence lock during running. After returning it before the end of my free trial I then noticed that 90+% of whoop users aren’t actually all that into sport/training, and all the really sporty people I know use a Garmin… says a lot.

I tried it for a month and sent it back. Got cadence lock repeatedly during running, the band would “swell” when swimming and it would work loose which ruining the data and was uncomfortable, didn’t find the sleep tracking as accurate as garmin (would report much later time falling asleep than I knew was correct), algorithm didn’t seem to think cycling was causing and “stress”. Basically, I quickly learned it’s a pretty wrist band for people who want to give the impression they’re into sport without actually being into sport. Since having one myself I’ve noticed how few of the actually fit people I know have one compared to Garmin etc

Couple guys at my gym (myself included) use whoop

It really depends on context and sensor type. If you start a workout it samples why more often. In reality for me it doesn't matter in the end. Had Whoop for years, now Apple watch for 1 year and there is no difference in my fitness progression or sleep quality.

I have. I used to wear both but whoop only now, especially since they added step count to whoop. I like not having the screen.

I wear two, pretty much just the opposite to you, Apple Watch left, whoop right. I get way less questions about it than I expected, which is a bonus. And if ever I’m asked “why both?” The answer is simple: I can’t track sleeping with the Apple Watch because it has to charge overnight.

Bicep strap with the Whoop. Been wearing it 24/7 for two years.

Good news is you can program your watch by either (or both) focus's and notifications. The watch isn't the same as whoop. But it gives you all of the same features depending on which subscriptions you have. They are all significantly less than whoop though. I frequently golf and was drawn to whoop years ago and I loved it. I learned a ton on what is good and what is bad for me. I cancelled shortly after the 4.0 drop because I already learned everything there is to know. But I still wanted the data. I just couldn't fathom spending an annual subscription that was as much as the Apple Watch itself when I didn't see Whoop trending in the right direction. Whoop 3.0 was it's peak. Once they started selling eye masks and new bands at a rate of 300% more than it was in the blink of an eye, I was out. I use; Bevel = $50/year Heart Analyzer = $9/one time fee HeartWatch = $6/one time fee AutoSleep = $6/one time fee Heart Analyzer and HeartWatch both offer V02 Max, Bevel will probably offer this in the future. All of the above offer HRV. AutoSleep measures HRV during sleep and upon waking (Breathe app is recommended which is free) The others track HRV through SDNN and RMSSD. Whoop tracks it more often, however you still get multiple readings per day with the other apps and can manually trigger it using the Breathe app. Bevel is the highest cost but also provides you: * Recovery score * Stress score * Energy bank * Sleep score * Sleep recommendations * Strain score * Strength builder * Journal * Lifestyle impact analysis * Training zones * complication/widgets for the watch Autosleep: * Automatic sleep detection * Plethora of sleep metrics and analysis * Sleep bank * Smart alarm

I was looking for a reason to drop whoop but based on the comments here and other places I've seen, im better off keeping whoop for now

Seriously for me it's like comparing apples with oranges. Why? The very name says it, one is a fitness band and the other is a smart watch. Whoop is not about sensors, it's more about the algorithm, which analyses your live data and nudges you to recover more or to have some strain. You can forget about it once you get used to it. You never have to take it off literally. You can pause your subscription if you don't feel like using it for a period or you can switch to a monthly subscription. What you need to understand is, whoop is not about it's hardware, it's a SaaS. And lastly Whoop's sleep analysis is something that these smart watches are not built for.

I wear my whoop on my left wrist and my ultra 3 on my right.

How do you wear your whoop and your nice watch? That’s actually why I got a whoop. I’ve always had an AW and loved it but then I was gifted a high end watch that I want to wear regularly…

Yes I bought a whoop a couple of years ago with this in mind. This was a major selling point.

Tbh, the patterns are more important than the accuracy. My whoop measures sleep a lot different to my Apple Watch, but it doesn’t matter. Because ultimately, the stats don’t matter so long as they stay stable as the real benefit of things like this is trend tracking.

I use Whoop and have done for over 18 months. If you want to make lifestyle changes then whoop is the better of the 3. Long battery life (3 days) , charges on your arm, unnoticeable to wear and doesn’t feel like you’ve got a rock strapped to your wrist when you sleep. Will track things outside the gym such as sleep and stress which is probably two important factors as a HENRY. You can also purchase the bicep band, arm sleeve or boxers if you prefer. It has tonnes of data and graphs and fairly certain you can also export data files to do your own analysis on top. If you want someone purely performance based then garmin is better but lacks the above points.

Maybe not unique on the market, but there are only two serious players in it. Whoop is one the other makes a device that can’t be used while lifting.

Whoop on my left wrist and my BBPro on my right. I'm a lefty and I also wouldn't do a screened fitness tracker with an analog watch. I just got the the whoop a couple months ago and have been really happy with it 👍

I've had it for 3 nights now. I used whoop previously and liked the product apart from the monthly subscription. So far the Loop has completely failed to recognise 2 of my 3 sleeps and the one it did recognise it thinks I had more than 15hrs of sleep. How I wish that were true! I think I'll wait a few days to give Polar the opportunity to respond to all the complaints, but at this point am very likely to return it.

I pre-ordered. This is fine for my needs, which includes being able to wear a nice watch from time to time without losing out on data, and using instead of my Vantage 1 when my V3 needs charging. I had Whoop for 8 years and am glad to be free of that. Like OP I don’t really understand the strategy of announcing months in advance. I don’t hate Flow as much as some do, but if they also improve that then great. All in all this is a decent addition if you have been in Polar ecosystem for a while, and might encourage some new users or people fed up of paying for Whoop’s incessant influencer marketing 🤣

Influencer marketing. They are first class at that.

I wear a normal watch and a whoop as I wanted the tracking but really wanted the ability to be disconnected from being contacted / messaged when I want to (that's what my phone and work phone are for). Also use a garmin for tracking runs and just switch out the watch for it.

Whoop was terrible for me. The basic HR metrics, which is the basis of all the analytics, were all over the place. I went to AW Ultra 2 and the Athytic app.

If I didn't wear mechanical watches I'd just rock APU. However, since I do wear my mechanical watches then whoop it is. I ain't double screening

You'll get basically all the tracking (Apple will surely have blood pressure monitoring if Whoop does). And if you like the Whoop app's style of Strain, Sleep, journalling etc.. you can get an app like Bevel or Athlytic for a couple of bucks a month. Personally I'll be ditching my Whoop due to this pricing and using my Apple Watch with Bevel.

Ding ding ding!! That’s basically where I’m at: Garmin for fitness tracking and triathlons and whoop for all around health tracker Not the approach everyone is willing to do or throw money at but they synergies well for me.

I was wearing it on my bicep for the longest time, but switched to my wrist when I saw that the step count didn’t match with my Garmin. Me being me and didn’t like it undercounting my steps and hurting my Whoop age… so I switched to my wrist and it got within a few hundred steps of each other. Wrist does fine for heart rate data on whoop when I wear it several inches from the wrist bone over good blood flow areas.

Hey, i just got one, its actually quite good, tracks well and the app isnt bad. Im not sure about the accuracy of the hrv spo2 and those variables but the step tracking and sleep track well (steps +-150 steps). I previously free trialed whoop, its obviously not as good but gives similar stats and has the screen free design. I do wish the app connected better to apple health, and give updates like strain. Also quick question about the running modes it says it has gps is that true? Overall great buy for cheap, does the job

Whoop seems to the fitness tracker most popular among watch enthusiasts. I refused to wear a smart watch, and whoop has been the solution.

I told myself I was buying the polar no matter what so I can save on subscription costs. I will happily keep paying whoop after comparing the products. No gps for runs, no wireless charging, overall less features. Edit: None of the wearables have GPS built in. Looks like Polar can also track your route, distance, and pace if you have your phone with you. Also, Polar only has 1 Bluetooth signal, so if it’s hooked to your phone, you cannot hook it to your gym equipment. One feature I love about Whoop is it seamlessly hooks to my peloton tread and phone simultaneously.

I think you’re right. It uses my phone to track/map my runs, pace and distance.

A lot of people have the Whoop combined with Garmin! Some mainly use the Garmin for workouts (Eg. running) and the whoop for recovery insights. So it's totally possible! Recommend placing the Whoop on your bicep with a bicep band (order separately) so you have your other wrist empty :)

I'm with you. I wear a Whoop 24/7, and a Garmin 90% of the time. I just wish the data was all integrated. It feels especially silly when I'm wearing a Whoop on my right wrist, a Garmin on my left, and an Orangetheory armband on my left bicep when I workout there (the OTF armband allows me to see my HR stats live on the tread/big board during class).

In case my reaction still matters: for me personally, I dont want to have watch that distracts me with telling me that I have another message on whats app, or another email. Yes I know you cam turn this off but what is the remaining value of having a smart watch? Aside from that I wanted to have something that is comfortable to sleep with. For that reason alone apple watch is not my preferred option. But there are also other reasons, what I like about Whoop is its focus on recovery, I think there its really unique and more value than tracking the perfect heart rate, exact amount of callory burn. Btw if you value those last two things that much then Garmin might be a better option for you. So I guess its just a matter of what you are chasing for in life in terms of health and sports.

Happy to know I’m not the only one why sleeps with multiple devices lol (AWU3, F8 Pro, Oura, Ultahuman and occasionally whoop) 😅

Whoop and a watch.

For me it is worth it. I have an Apple Watch s8 and had an Oura ring gen 4, I prefer the whoop over all of them.

Interesting. Ive joined the waitlist. While I like my Whoop, I like the concept and would be happy to support a company that leaves me in control of my data. It will be interesting to see how the device evolves.

Having had both, I far prefer the UI and breadth of data collected by Whoop. That said, I think either will realistically get the job done for a fitness-concerned individual.

Yes I am and happy with both.

I did Apple Watch forever but got tired of being “so connected” Moved to whoop a few months ago. It’s ok… not sure I love it or really understand everything it’s telling me, but it does the trick

After 4 years , I can safely advice there is only one right answer here - Apple Watch in the wrist and Whoop with a bicep band.

I really like the journaling/tracking data on the whoop… how it shows you if intermittent fasting or alcohol affects your sleep and recovery. Do these apps allow you to do that w the Apple Watch?

I wear a whoop, which has similar features to the Oura ring, but is significantly safer when climbing. I wear the wrist band usually, but I have done the bicep band as well.

I am using both. But I’m a mechanical watch guy so whoop is what I will wear 24/7 and Apple Watch is only sth I will wear when I put down my mechanical watch. I only hv so much data as long as the thing is on my wrist so whoop is the way for me. Having said that, I’m still using my Apple watch for workout and Bevel to log my food (which is very good)

Being not an athlete at all I don’t care too much the true HR measurement as I use Whoop or AW just to 1) track my overall wellbeing and 2) gamify as to motivate me. So the honest answer is I don’t know about the accuracy. But Whoop and AW have around 10% difference with Whoop being the lower read.

Whoop has taken some recent heat about accuracy issues. You may want to read up on that before considering a switch. Lots of users leaving the Whoop and going over to Garmin or AW.

Had whoop maybe 2-3 years ago, now I own a helio and honestly, It’s *almost* the same thing. But I am very curious to see what polar does. I’d rather polar if they make a good product since I don’t really care to support Chinese labor.

I wear a whoop on a bicep band and swap out my SMP for an Apple Watch when I go to the gym

I use whoop and it auto-detects my workout as HIIT few minutes after the class is over.

When I was using my AW and whoop at CrossFit, the whoop auto tracked my workouts way better and it provided a felt like a more accurate assessment of the workout then my AW.

Neither is really giving you an accurate score. It’s an educated guess. Sometimes a fairly good educated guess, but still a guess. if you really want to track sleep… You need to be tracking brain waves. I have tried a few EEG (closest thing to PSG) headbands & the readings showed me that wearables like Whoop & AW are just guessing. They only moderately correlated. Honestly the sleep score on these devices are about one of the most inaccurate features considering how much weight many people put on them

I wear AW during the day and Whoop at night. AW is too bulky for me to sleep in but I want the sleep stats. I'm sort of lost as to what I'm going to do when my Whoop renewal comes up in a month.

I guess if you want to get absolute maximum benefit of what the Whoop can offer. But I still find value in seeing how much REM or Deep sleep I'm getting, body temp, RHR, respiratory rate, and HRV. I likely will not be renewing next month when I'm up, but what you're saying is more of an opinion than a fact.

I have had Oura for about 3 years. I recently got Whoop. They both have strengths & weaknesses. The biggest negative for Oura for me is that it needs charging about every second day. If you do any traveling it’s a pain. Oura also has a monthly fee. Whoop holds a charge for 2 weeks. I think Oura is inaccurate as to things like VO2 max. Whoop gives me more useful info for every thing but sleep. If I had to pick one it’s whoop

I've got a whoop because it can be worn in other places that are not as a watch.

Looking for inspiration here. I'm currently using Whoop through the free trial and think I'm going to keep it. My only problem is...I need a watch! I currently have a Fitbit so I'm wearing a band on each wrist (can't decide if I love or hate this yet) but it's dying (hence the whoop trial) so trying to decide what to do when it pops it's clogs. How many of you wear 2 fitness trackers? Do you find it pointless to have 2 devices measuring similar things? Do you do 2 on one wrist or 1 each? Does anyone wear a 'normal' watch and a whoop? Again, wrist setup? If I settle for a normal watch, I'll need to get a Garmin or similar for running as I like to know pace/hr etc. but 3 watches feels abit much. Help a woman out please 😂

Yes. Not completely in agreement but I trust the exercise metrics more on Garmin and the sleep/recovery more with Whoop. Borrowed an Apple Watch for a bit more than a week to see what it catches and it does get a lot of data. For me the presentation is not as easy to deal with as the others. Whoop has been quite useful for me to identify the dietary issues I have. Figuring out what I cannot eat without physical stress has been helpful. Renewing will depend on how Whoop treats customers. They are not making me feel like a valued customer and there is no value to keeping a subscription since Garmin is absolutely superior in recording training. They might be able to provide added value for tracking exercise if they allowed proper HR straps to pair for something like running, but they never will.

Whoop gives continuous heart rate monitoring, a wide range of data, allows broadcasting of heart rate, wireless charging while in use, has a haptic alarm and provides all of its findings in a visually appealing software package with AI that provides proper assessments. Additionally Whoop is simply comfortable to use 24/7. Whoop is expensive, yes, but it is the gold standard. It’s the one the others try to copy. But either you can afford it or not.

Love my Whoop but your assessment is right on. For many the Helio is a home run. Others of us prefer more. It’s good to have choices.

Sticking with the best all the others want to be: Whoop.

So am I. With the best!

Been excellent for me. Matched my Polar and Garmin. Expensive but Whoop simply the best. And it’s comfortable to wear, the most basic thing to check off.

Well, be sure to check out the mega thread in this subreddit on the Loop. Issues galore along with aged software. My suggestion if you want a device with no screen, check out the Whoop. Whoop gives continuous heart rate monitoring, a wide range of data, allows broadcasting of heart rate, wireless charging while in use, has a haptic alarm and provides all of its findings in a visually appealing software package with AI that provides proper assessments. Additionally Whoop is simply comfortable to use 24/7. Whoop is expensive, yes, but it is the gold standard. It’s the one the others try to copy. But either you can afford it or not. If you instead go with the Loop, best wishes … though you may need to have an abundance of hope that the glitches will be fixed quickly and the software truly updated.

Whoop gives continuous heart rate monitoring, a wide range of data, allows broadcasting of heart rate, wireless charging while in use, has a haptic alarm and provides all of its findings in a visually appealing software package with AI that provides proper assessments. Finally, it’s comfortable. It’s expensive, yes, but it is the gold standard. You can afford it or not. But it’s the best!

Love my Ignite 3 but absolutely find Polar Flow app dreadful. Love my Whoop for all its meaningful information!

I love my whoop also I am so waiting for Polar 360 , my sub is in Oct

Ich habe seit knapp 9 Monaten ein Whoop und ich finde es mittlerweile besser, als ich am Anfang erwartet hätte. Wenn ich es zum Black Friday nochmal für 199€ verlängert bekomme, wäre ich ein weiteres Jahr dabei und beobachte so lange, wie es mit Loop und Helio weiter geht. Was Whoop (für mich) ganz gut macht, sind die Insights, die ich aus dem täglichen Logbuch ziehe - da werd Verhalten im Alltag mit Erholung korreliert. Zu wissen, dass "Handy im Bett" sich negativ und Meditation positiv auf meine Erholung auswirkt, ist das eine - es in Zahlen zu sehen ist das andere. Mir hat es geholfen, mein Verhalten zu ändern. Das die offiziellen 260€ im Jahr dafür absolut lächerlich viel sind: keine Frage. Aber Gym ist mein Hobby und ich gebe ohnehin viel Geld dafür aus. Da sind die \~20€ im Monat eigentlich auch kein Genickbruch. Zumindest nicht im Moment. Auf lange Sicht hätte ich aber gerne was ohne Abo. Und Polar vertraue ich als Hersteller, dass sie wissen, wie man sowas baut und gleichzeitig würde ich ihnen beim Datenschutz etwas mehr trauen als Amazfit. Aber das ist mein persönlicher Bias. Bei Polar sieht die App auf den Screenshots ziemlich cringe aus. Amafit macht das scheinbar besser. Ob die so gut wie die Whoop App sind, müsste man sehen - ich habe aber Zweifel, weil die schon sehr slick ist. Gleichzeitig gehe ich jede Wette ein, dass Polar und Amazfit es sich nicht nehmen lassen werden, irgendwann auch einen "Premium Service" anzubieten, hinter dem dann zusätzliche Auswertungen versteckt werden. Das ist einfach viel zu lukrativ und verlockend.

Damals gab's nur eine und die entspricht dem heutigen "Peak". Die Variante ergibt meines Erachtens nach auch am meisten Sinn. "ONE" ist zwar ein bisschen günstiger, aber dafür fehlen Funktionen und das Ladegerät hat ein Kabel. Was super dumm ist. Denn ein wirklich praktisches Feature ist das kabellose laden: du lädst einen kleinen schwarzen Akkupack am Kabel auf, den du danach für \~20 Minuten "huckepack" auf das Whoop klemmst. In der Zeit lädt er dann das Whoop selbst kabellos auf. Danach kannst du den Pack wieder abnehmen und hast \~14 Tage (bei meiner Version 4.0 noch \~4 Tage) Ruhe. Man muss das Whoop selbst also nie abnehmen\*. Das gibt gibt's aber jetzt erst ab "Peak" "Peak" ist wie gesagt die neue Variante von dem, was ich habe. Würde ich wieder machen. "Life" hat genau drei Features mehr: Erkennung von Vorhofflimmern, EKG und Blutdruck. Letzteres ist von der Genauigkeit her eher so "meh", wie ich das verstanden habe. Das wäre mir die 150€ Aufpreis im Jahr nicht wert. So weit geht's dann mit dem "Ich gebe viel Geld für mein Hobby aus" doch nicht. ;) Meine Empfehlung: mach einen kostenlosen Probemonat, nimm die kostenlose 2-Wochen-Verlängerung am Schluss mit und schau, ob du daran Spaß hast. Und das noch als Kontext, weil die Nachricht ohnehin zu lang ist: Whoop hat es sich beim Wechsel von 4.0 zu 5.0 durch ein ziemlich ignorantes Verhalten mit einigen Fans verspielt. Ich war auch enttäuscht. Darum wird spannend sein, ob und wie sie auf die neuen Player im Markt reagieren. \*... wobei grade das standard-band nach dem duschen sehr lange nass bleibt. Ich habe mir bei Temu (seufz, ich weiß) für 9€ pro Stück Ersatzbänder ("SportFlex"-artig) bestellt und wechsle regelmäßig.

After 3.5 years with Whoop I'm well aware of how my body reacts to anything, so the usefulness of the device is not there anymore. I also got a good understanding of how to train, what amount to strain to take on, etc. And overall pricing is just too much at this point for me. I simply don't get enough value for the money.

Yeah. Tbh, I don't even know what I would add to the device, because at this point it seems that with these sensors and tech we kinda reached the limit of what's possible. And even so, Whoop is not that accurate. If it was cheaper I would probably stay, but current pricing is ridiculous imo. Having said that, I also understand that for some people it is worth it, especially for those who joined just recently, because the novelty is there, and there is a lot to discover about your body. Btw, I didn't know Oura also had a coach. I'll have a look :) Maybe Oura + Helio would make a nice combo!

I love my whoop - enjoy

Honestly no-one can understand how Garmin is so out of touch on this. Can't believe we got that stupid Index smart arm band (bought one for the wife). That should easily have been an all day Whoop competitor. Garmin watches just look rubbish in casual wear. Too many of us prefer mechanical watches at work and casually. I wear a Whoop daily now but would gladly move to Garmin as I use the 965 for running and Edge 540 for cycling and would prefer data all together in one app.

I wear both. Use the watch for runs, swims, and life. Use the whoop for serious metrics and trends. I like knowing my pace and time which fits on the Apple Watch, but listen to the metrics on whoop more.

I'm pretty disappointed. The only reason I still have whoop is because it doesn't have a screen and I can wear it in boxers when I'm doing judo or other activities where you can't wear a watch. Anyone know any? Definitely think I'm going to cancel as soon as my sub is up. Just not worth it. Someone has to come up with a competitor soon right?

I hear ya. I use tracking devices because I think improving HRV is important. That's pretty much it. I never use calorie function (not a fan of CICO) and I wear an analogue watch so I don't want a smart watch type device. I did try Whoop for a month and came to exactly the same conclusion as you.

Apple Watch or anything but just not Whoop. Whoop is a very bad investment. It is The Most Expensive and The Least Accurate. It is clunky. It gives you rash. It shines green light into your face at night although it is screenless. It is just so poorly made that you need to cut off your blood circulation in order to it be pressed into your skin and do not shine green light. I had Whoop for three months and it started showing a very bad data. Like catastrophicly bad. I believed it and it caused me a month of nightmare. Until I questioned not myself but this device. Bought Polar chest strap to check my HRV, it was VERY different and was showing me my normal data, data that whoop originally showed to me as well until three months into use it stopped. Since then I bought Apple Watch 10 and never looked back. No more weirdness.

Me too! I'm trying not to think about how much I've paid over the years but Whoop checks all my boxes compared to competitors. I got a Garmin watch to see if it would replace Whoop but I just can't sleep with it at night, the slim firm of Whoop wins there plus their sleep data doesn't seem accurate compared to Whoop. My hands are too small for a bulky Oura ring and I'm an Android user so no apple watch for me. I do admit, if I was in a worse financial situation, Whoop would have to go.

I go with Whoop > Apple Watch the data for what I care about is better and my work pays for it

I don’t. Love my Whoop. It does it automatically for me, measures my strain and tells me how to recover after a workout! Best fitness investment. Edit to add: it automatically measures this as a HIIT workout.

I like the Fitbit inspire but I don’t like how the data is being interpreted and given to me. I’m trying the whoop and it seems like they do a better job of using your data to give you information that can be useful. I’m only on day 2 but I think it may be better for me.

Whoop is a great all-round device and works great for me as a general fitness and recovery tracker. Probably not the best for Running or cycling as you don't get the detailed stats like you would in other devices like Garmin or Apple Watch and no GPS data unless you carry your phone with you. If those are not issues for you I'd say stick with it if you can stomach the cost. If you want to save money get the Amazfit Helio strap. It's 99 USD, has great battery life and has most the functions of the Whoop but the app UX is not as polished as Whoop's app.

I switched from Ultrahuman to Whoop. Ultrahuman is garbage btw, I ran through 3 rings in under a year. Also they lost the lawsuit to Oura so there might be support issues in the future in the US.

Hume Health have 44% 1\* reviews on trust pilot - I also read an article on their software alog and their scales being fairly inaccurate. Happy enough with whoop and their 10 years accumulated experience

That’s why I left whoop. The sensor quality is awful and the sensor inputs are manipulated heavily with software. My point of reference is I had a polar for years, the old one that came with a watch. It worked the second you started running or lifting. I hate the fact that the sensor needs time to calibrate to get a comparable reading to a polar. The software driven stuff is just nonsense to me, but maybe I am “old school”.

I wear a whoop on my right wrist that has no means of sending me evil notifications and all that. I don’t have to charge it more than once a week.

Whoop is absolutely great at sleep tracking. Health less and for fitness is not that good.

I did trial and it wasnt for me..definitely recommend to all newbies to try 30 day trial.

If you are only wearing the Whoop at night you might as well do yourself a favor and drop it. In order to get insights from Whoop, you need to wear it always so it can learn. It's like saying I only diet at night but eat everything the rest of the day. The diet will do you no good and neither will the Whoop.

https://preview.redd.it/fvbii9flig2g1.jpeg?width=449&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c21c7fdc2e33f0a43d303d68f986efa80b679b5 Not at all, it takes time for the Whoop to learn and give you meaningful data. But as you say, if you are looking for just the basics it will give you that. But then, so will the AW.

Honestly, I’m done explaining why I don’t like Whoop. The whole thing feels overhyped, overpriced, and half of what they market doesn’t work properly in real life. The subscription model is a joke — you’re basically paying a huge amount of money just to look at your own data, and the strap itself isn’t anything special. They’re charging for the marketing, not the product. Sleep and recovery metrics are often way off. It keeps giving me “red recovery” when I actually feel great, or “green” when I barely slept. After a while it just stops making sense. And the heart-rate tracking during real workouts is unreliable too — anything intense like hockey, weights, or intervals and it lags, freezes, or spits out random numbers. And then the strain… that’s the funniest part. I can literally chill on the sofa all day, barely move, and it still gives me something like a strain of 10 out of nowhere, as if I ran or did some heavy sports. That alone makes me question everything else it shows. On top of that, there are no real watch features. No screen, no basic functionality, you can’t quickly check anything without opening the app (even on widgets), which is ridiculous for something this expensive. The battery and charger sound cool in theory, but in reality the design gets annoying, the contacts get unreliable, and the whole thing becomes more hassle than help. And honestly, the whole connectivity situation is exhausting. It needs Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, the app open, phone nearby — basically everything has to be perfectly aligned just for it to function normally. If anything disconnects, you immediately get notifications that it hasn’t synced for hours. Instead of a wearable that quietly does its job, it becomes something you have to babysit. In the end, it’s great marketing for an average product, way too expensive for what it actually delivers, and there are plenty of devices that do the same or better without locking you into a subscription or draining your wallet every month/year. Just stick to Apple Watch and consider downloading bevel on it.

Apple Watch isn’t constantly tracking, whereas Whoop is. Whoop provides a much greater analysis of data collected - granted you can get apps on Apple Watch like Bevel and Athlytic, but these are subscription based on top of your watch cost. Apple Watch requires charging every day which most people do at night so it isn’t a good sleep tracker - unless you take it off during the day to charge which is annoying. 14 days battery life on Whoop. Also, Whoop is for people who don’t want a smart watch. I don’t want notifications on my wrist or a giant screen. I wear mechanical watches and having a slim device I forget it on my wrist is pretty great.

I had an Apple Watch before whoop and both aren’t ideal at spikes tbf - again, it’s the optic technology. I use an ECG band if I want a true reading.

Whoop wearer here. The Whoop is a fantastic piece of kit (ignore the negativity on that sub, it’s toxic) BUT what I will say is that any optic HR reader (one that shines a green light and records the response rate) will not perform nearly as well as an electric heart rate monitor like the Polar H10. This uses electric pulses to record your HR and is pretty much spot on. With Whoop, Garmin, Apple Watch, the HR is only as good as the reader can guestimate.

I have a Whoop on biceps and Garmin on the wrist. The Garmin makes be feel better about my step counts hahaha

Whatever u do, don’t get the Hume. Device is just a 20€ tracker from aliexpress, experts on their website doesn’t exist (stock images) and so on. AW + Whoop is what a lot of people wear, i think it’s for people that want the benefits of an actual smart watch (notifications, time, music, …) but miss an app like whoop has. Even though there is Bevel, I think I would get a subscription of that app instead of rocking 2 devices. But for me personally a whoop alone is enough, I get all my data, charge it twice a month and ignore it most of the time. Don’t like wearing watches anyway

I wear a Whoop while I play. If you're not keen on it being on your wrist they offer a myriad of alternative methods to mount the sensor, but Ive never had issues with it staying in place on my wrist. Sits under the guard on my glove. 

Fitness ring wearables are not for weight lifters. This is something that could have been determined in advance. I dug into this research for a week and found the ring isn’t right for me for a similar reason. I’ll be using the credit to gift a ring to someone. Alternatively though; the Whoop has been great.

Did the same a while back and now back at whoop. There’s something more premium about whoop that I can’t put my finger on tbh. I get a sense of enjoyment looking at the whoop app that I just didn’t get from bevel, I just felt overwhelmed with the data it gave me. 

Nice summary. I think I generally agree with your conclusions, in particular the one related to sleep -- Whoop is (probably) way better at tracking sleep, although admittedly most wearables are garbage at actually tracking sleep. My recommendation for Whoop has always been: 1. Get it on a 6 month or 1 year subscription 2. Religiously fill out the journal every morning, with basically every piece of data you're willing to enter 3. Look at how those things impact your sleep and recovery Then, after you've found that data, I find the Whoop is not particularly useful -- which matches your note >However, after tracking sleep for 5 years, I've learned my sleep patterns and the factors that affect them, so the additional insights from Whoop have diminishing returns. Super useful to understand yourself, but once you know yourself well, I find it's less good than any of the other watches

Phelps wore a much earlier version in the Olympics, and still wears his. And it’s only improved since then, significantly. It knows the precise minute I start and stop my swims. I find it very precise.

I literally just posted a survey for a project I am working on to solve this problem!! [<<>>](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetAuuxIe62QCdQ23KdedEPaghJ5TOdiiO25420V6CHCSIh2w/viewform?usp=dialog) We also are raffling prizes for those that complete it :) I usually use Strava because I also run a lot. Sometimes Whoop as well but feel like it never captures my strain correctly.

As a member for the last several years, a lot has changed. They've added several new metrics over the last few years, the most significant of which are: VO2max Body weight/composition (if you have a scale, you can either pair - Withings only - or manually input) In addition to those metrics they've added the strength trainer which allows you create workouts and sets and calculates/estimates muscular load \- one thing to note, strength trainer is pretty flawed still imo thought whoop has promised upgrades are coming Then they've added updates several other core features. The sleep score has been updated to be more comprehensive (not just sleep need but accounting for other factors) They've also massively expanded the health tab They've added a stress monitor: \- This takes your data and uses an algorithm to graph your physiological stress in real time (one of my personal favourite features, I find myself referencing it often) They've also added healthspan which gives you a "biological" age rather than your literal age, based on an amalgamation of key data markers. It also gives you a pace of aging based on your last months worth of behaviour. \- This is definitely something that is highly gamified but the data is also laid out very nicely, and all the metrics that make up your age and how they are contributing (either making you older or younger) are clearly laid out, so it is highly actionable and motivates you to improve in a good way imo. Lastly they've just added advanced labs, which allows you to integrate bloodwork (which you can order through whoop or upload your own existing results) and use it to track key biomarkers over time and correlate your physiological data to those biomarkers \- If you do bloodwork annually (like I do) I think this feature is huge. Finally, they've massively expanded the AI whoop coach. Ultimately its still an AI coach and I know lots of people aren't fond of that, but the changes they've made to the coach go far beyond what I could document here. Personally, I find the coach is a massive improvement over what it was when I started using whoop. I take everything it says with a grain of salt, but I do find it genuinely valuable and I expect that it will continue to improve dramatically. There's other little stuff too, but that covers the bulk of the big changes. In general wrist based trackers don't perform great for weightlifting, whoop is no exception, I expect the best pure HR tracker for weightlifting would be the AirPods Pro 3's, but data presentation wise, whoop has a lot of great features and is heading in a really nice direction imo. Hopefully this overview helps you! (there is absolutely zero reason to go for the whoop MG, all it does is take ECGs – which you can already do w AW, and has a cuff calibrated BPM who's accuracy seems to be mediocre at best)

I got whoop mostly to try to help me track/work on my stress levels... So this is appealing to me!

I’ve used Whoop for almost three years now, but it’s far from ideal for heart rate tracking during workouts. After some testing, I consistently saw heart rate readings that were 20–30 BPM lower compared to the AWU3 or a Garmin chest strap. In my opinion, Whoop is fine for general health tracking, but not reliable for workout data. I have no trouble sleeping with the AWU3, and I used it alongside Whoop for a few weeks just for comparison purposes. Based on that experience, I can say that AWU3 combined with the Bevel app (I also tried Athlytic, but Bevel aligns more closely with both my subjective feeling and Whoop’s data) is a better solution. It offers similar accuracy in recovery and sleep tracking as Whoop, but performs much better when it comes to workout tracking.

Im a long time Apple Watch user, and spent some time with whoop, never thought apple would let any 3rd party access the data their devices collect. That is a game changer, ill give bevel a try

I choose Whoop with the understanding future hardware would be included. This feels like false advertising now in hind-site?

I’d say Whoop is more of a lifestyle tracker first, then gym and cardio tracker second. It doesn’t really pick up any of my gym workouts consistently so i always make sure to manually start them.

I wear an Apple Watch on my left wrist and Whoop either in my right wrist or arm band

Yes! Same— well marathons. I need the insights Whoop provides. I will say however that the most accurate HR monitor I have is my Garmin HRM Pro but I’m not gonna wear that thing all day and night. Plus Whoop has a community, I am a part of a “team” that is very active on chat which motivates and inspires me. I have an Apple Watch which dies too quickly. I also have a Fenix 8 which is clunky as hell.

It's worth it if you have a purpose for using it.I train shotokan karate and go to the gym etc so I mostly use it to track my v 02 max, which is essential for a martial artist and majority of athletes.And even everyday activities in general. Find a hobby that requires physical activity.I think whoop is mostly for athletes.But normal people can benefit from it most people that are not that physically activeProbably should not use use a general health tracker smartwatch for occasional workouts, but people that are serious about health should use whoop

Plus it's not invasive watches, get very irritating.Wearing semi a daily even i wear samsung watches and now a google pixel three.I love them, but they do get irritated.Especially when i'm in an intense workout, where i'm giving it my all and I feel like i'm about to die.Whoop is just there I'm not focused on it.It's giving me my tracking results. Only downside is if you run outside and you don't feel like carrying your phone.There's no music like a smartwatch from you

I wear the Apple Watch on the left hand. But only because I’m a coach and need the time and stop feature of a watch. And on my right biceps I have the whoop. Just because I don’t like the both hands 2 bands look

I ended up getting a whoop (work/insurance paid for most of it) for this reason. I got tired of wearing a giant watch, and wanted to wear my mechanicals. Instill use my Fenix for running workouts/hunting, but I don’t wear it everyday anymore. If garmin a strap like this I would’ve gone with that over whoop in a heartbeat.

Same here The price and app are disappointing. Just bought another year of whoop.Hoping Helio or loop 2 do better

Its matter of health vs activity tracking. I am long time garmin user and tried whoop for years. Whoop puts more focus on your health rather then training. It makes sleep recovery focal point vs fitniess activities. You can try your lifestyle and see its impact.. alcohol, screentime, sex, varies foods, mental state and it will incorporate that and give you feedback. Compared to garmin which focus onyour runs or biking etc and helping you improve those activities and become a better athlete.

I used whoop for 2yrs but after 6mon felt like I no longer need it. Once you understand your life style its not really needed.

I returned it due to the cost and bought a Fitbit. The whoop was way more accurate and less buggy

Whoop is great. I've been wearing one nearly 4 years now. I don't always check it every day, but I keep it on my wrist and charged constantly- I never take it off so the data is always there when I want it. Some of the recent drama was pretty justified, but most of it is a big entitled overreaction. Sensor accuracy is perfectly fine for anyone looking to hold themselves accountable or improve fitness. It does not replace actual medical devices for getting that last 3% of performance out of a pro athlete. Whoop has 2 unbeatable features, the charging and the method of displaying the data. The charging is on-wrist which is amazing for consistency. If you never take it off, you never forget to put it back on. The app is very well done (for the most part) and gives access to almost anything you'd want.

Whoop can track activities, however it's not a great activity tracker. You'll also want to see live metrics on your wrist during runs if you are taking it seriously. Need a proper watch for this.

Whoop is not a great activity tracker. Outside wellness and recovery features, having your live stats on the watch is extremely valuable and Whoop doesn’t have a screen.

They both have their strengths, but for me, WHOOP is the one. Garmin for its GPS and outdoor stuff, I’ve personally stuck with Whoop because it just fits my priorities better. I do a mix of kickboxing, golf, and weights, and I really care most about HRV, sleep, and recovery, even in despite of their pretty shitty 5.0 release. For me, Whoop nails the recovery and HRV side of things. The way it pulls together sleep, heart rate variability, and strain into that recovery score actually helps me adjust my training. Especially with something like kickboxing, where overtraining can sneak up on you, that kind of feedback is huge. Sleep tracking is another area where I think Whoop really shines. I’ve tried Garmin’s sleep data, and it’s... fine. But Whoop feels way more accurate in terms of when I actually fell asleep and woke up, and it breaks everything down in a way that’s easier to digest. I’ve definitely improved my sleep since using it. Also, Whoop’s strain score makes a lot more sense for the kind of training I do. I’m not out here counting steps—if I’m smashing pads for an hour or grinding through a heavy lift session, I want a tracker that knows how much that actually taxes my body, and Whoop’s strain metric feels more aligned with that. And honestly, the comfort is a big one too. I don’t like wearing a chunky watch during golf or while training, and their 5.0 model, which I'm waiting on, is even smaller. It's lighter, more sleek and less of a distraction imo. Yeah, the subscription cost can feel like a downside, but I think of Whoop more like a performance and recovery coach than just a tracker. The insights I get from it have helped me train smarter, avoid burnout, and generally feel better day to day. Garmin is great if you need built-in GPS, maps, but if your main goal is recovery, sleep, and better performance in strength or combat sports, I honestly think Whoop still comes out ahead.

Just my opinion, but use a dedicated running app. I use Whoop to measure and provide feedback on “overall” performance and recovery, rather than the granular details of my activities. Yes it’s multiple apps, but they all have their purposes and specialties, while being individually good at each of them. Adding features dilutes this specialization, making the whole ethos less effective in the long run. This need to have Whoop dig into the details is what’s causing all the issues and distaste for Strength Trainer. If we insist on the details, we might as well have it start tracking my rowing strokes and splits, golf strokes, yardage and handicap, hiking elevation, and my “other” strokes. Again, just my opinion.

I’ve been an AW user since first launch. In 2017 I’ve tried to switch to Garmin and till 2025 I’ve used both periodically. This year I’ve bought whoop as I thought that it will help me to be fit and train better than before looking at recovery and sleep data. But… Honestly these things influence on my activity behaviour negatively in comparison with the time when I did not track it. The same shit with apps like bevel and athlytic. Common, I understood how was my sleep night before, had I junk food in my dinner, did i trained too much yesterday. But now it influenced on my plan for the day. I’m not a pro sportsmen, I just cycle for fun, do gym and walk for a leisure. I am not CR7 or Sabalenka to go in such deep detail. Now I’ ve deleted all apps such bevel, gifted whoop to friend and you know - I am free. And I train with a good mood.

It can track activities if you keep your phone with you. Wouldn’t recommend, I use my whoop for tracking strain and mainly recovery. Check out coros, I got a pace 3 just over 1 month ago and it works very well. I kinda wonder if the pace pro would’ve been a better fit for me because of the better screen but compared to my Apple Watch the pace 3 is a game changer

Just got this email today. “The past two weeks have demonstrated the consequences of developing a health wearable that focuses on shareholder interests rather than its actual users. A subscription model that originally promised free future hardware upgrades has been quietly scrapped. The only truly new device – the one with actual new features – now comes with a more expensive pricing tier that didn’t exist before. Feels a bit like Black Mirror, doesn’t it? In contrast, the successor to the current model offers only marginal technical improvements – not nearly enough to justify an upgrade fee. Long-standing customers are left out in the cold, despite years of loyalty and clear promises to the contrary. I will continue to use this tracker, and I appreciate its capabilities. However, the company's and its founder's recent behavior has only confirmed the path I chose last year. At that time, I realized that a subscription model for a device that collects my most intimate health data and stores it on corporate servers beyond my control just didn’t feel right. So I started a research project – which has since turned into a real product: the Zyke Band. A tracker with no display. No subscription. No empty promises. Full data ownership. And a clear principle: Good data. Good design. And control that stays with you. All your data is stored locally on your smartphone. There are no black-box analyses, no vague “AI wellness” claims. Just real, traceable and grounded metrics – transparently communicated.”

I usually charge my whoop off body anyways due to the heat, I also only have one band so I charge it when I’m in the shower.

Same.. whoop on Right .. BB on left

As a Whoop user, I'd say it's "good", not great, at everything. However, it truly is great at showing you the data and how you can improve. 

I don't recommend the Oura ring or any watches. Look into something like Whoop, or for a less expensive option, Polar Verity Sense.

I have Apple Watch Ultra for 2 years , started wearing a whoop couple months ago for sleep. Works great for me.

Whoop pushes HR to equipment and has better sensors than the Loop

For those who have tried using the Polar Loop while swimming, how accurate are the HR measurements? I assume they’re not very reliable, but Whoop always gives me readings up to +20 bpm higher, which really skews the stats... Thanks for your feedback!

I completely agree with your post. I had a whoop for just under 2 years and an Apple Watch for 8 yrs and I ditched them both after purchasing my Forerunner 970, the tech gives me the information I need plus extra for running. I love the morning reports showing my training readiness /hrv/sleep all the same stats as whoop. I wore my whoop and my Garmin at the same time for a week and hrv was 1-2points or so lower on whoop and sleep was pretty much the same every night- however awake times on Garmin are registered mainly as light sleep. I have 3 months left on my whoop subscription and I’ve decided to dump it early! I also completely agree that the no screen aspect on whoop makes me pick up my phone more to see stats /enter workout info/ and then I end up wasting time on my phone.

Yes. Whoop on the right. Bb58 on the left. Would not wear a watch style tracker, mind

the HR on the Whoop is terrible .. only way to make it accurate is on Bicep, wrist HR is miles better on Helio. Plus the price is insane for what you get.

I've used Apple Watches since they were introduced and I've had an original AWU since it first shipped. I was also using a Whoop for three years but changed that to a Fenix 8 in May. I've been very happy with the Garmin for its fitness and health capabilities, but its software maturity and UI is a big drop from what Apple offers. Unlike you, the non-fitness aspects of the AWU are super important to me and things like texting and notifications on the Fenix are pretty poor. So I just wear both, all the time! I've been very happy.

i switch to a seiko and a whoop for health tracking i can wear the whoop on my bicep. and wear my seiko/aquaracer and still track my health without both my wrists being occupied

I Apple Watch Ultra 2 on the left and WHOOP on the right

I have had Bevel for several months even with its newness and it does not reach the height of WHOOP

I was in your shoes this time last year and I ended up getting the Whoop on the black friday sale. So here is my takeaway: Whoop was ideal as my priority was tracking Sleep & recovery - as I traveled a lot and had quite a stressful time. so that was more important to me than my running metrics. Having said that I then did use my ancient Garmin Fenix 3 to track runs and have my pace and distance on my wrist which is useful especially when starting out so you hit your target pace. But Recovery and HRV etc was always more important. A combination you'll find lots of Whoop users do. I recommend such a dedicated recovery device to anyone and liken it to tracking calories. It's good to get a good overview and insight into your life - even if it isn't forever. Like a mental calibration So after one year now for example I will NOT be extending my whoop and go with a cheaper/ less dedicated option like the Helios etc. So if you want to get the "best"/market leading for the first year to see how you go and to really learn your patterns etc. I can definitely recommend Whoop, as you know what you are getting and most others have consideral cut backs/aren't as accurate etc. etc.

I did both, found my whoop highly inconsistent. Also, bevel pulls from Apple Watch, which has been ranked as better for HR tracking across independent reviews so surprised to see you see different.

Frequency does not equal accuracy and reliability. HR reading on Whoop are known for being absolutely aweful. Better having an accurate reading every 5 minutes than multiple bad readings every seconds. That being said, it's a shame because Whoop has awesome software and data analysis, but makes it somehow unusable because of bad hr data in. If HR accuracy is not a problem for you, and only follow "very general trends", yeah Whoop is a cool product. But if you are at some minimal point serious about HR accuracy, for real sport / performance / improvment, you cannot relly on it. It's not about being a hater or not, it's about having a "tool" that really works or not for your needs, or simply works (or not) as advertised it should. People here tends to either be in love with Whoop blindlesly and spitting on every proven negative fact about it, or hate it to the bones.

You are saying that getting "constant tracking' makes it a good device. It's just not. If my harte rate is at about 80 bpm over an hour ; If a Polar device, Garmin, apple watch says it's at 80 with readings every minute or so, and whoop says 65 every seconds, your "constant readings" are not worth anything. Garbage in, garbage out. Not saying that other brands are perfect, they is always an error margin at some point, but other brands are way much closer to what an ECG would read, which is a known reliable reference. That has been scientifically tested over and over. And a bpm is not a subjective measure, it's a physically occuring event. Even counting it manually with a timer and my finger on my neck would be more accurate. Anyone saying otherwise are just not able to think objectily and understand simple *facts*, and are just too much in love with the brand for some reason, or matbe in the bias if trying to justify the price they pay . Like I said, Whoop has a lot of positives : But their linear HR sensors are poor quality, and not the ideal way of positioning them (VS circular patern). Else, they would be a 10/10 tbh, comfortable and minimal bands, awesome software and all...but well... Give poop the a jeweler ; don't expect a golden necklace

You make a good point here. For day to day usage, an apple watch would miss it indeed. Not much in love with Apple Watch either, in fact I generally like garmin watches better for sports, but only like AW for ecosystem integrations and notifications. On activity tracking modes reading are much more closer though, but yeah, not all physical effort are "planned" with tracking turned on prior.

Whoop and galaxy watch 7

Worn in the wrist or bicep, I learned that the Helio strap is so much better than Whoop with its heart rate data. The Helio caught my highest HR peaks during workouts where the Whoop would not (compared to my Polar H10 chest HR strap connected to my Garmin. Also compared to my AW Ultra 2 on my wrist). This was enough for me to cancel my whoop subscription because all of my workout data was missing most of my Zone 4 and Zone 5 data, making the data feeding the Whoop algorithms, and this it’s strain numbers, inaccurate).

The reviews definitely look AI generated, but as someone that likes new tech and data, I decided to purchase one today. I have used Whoop for a year, and I am currently using an Apple Watch Ultra with the Bevel app. I also will double-wrist my AW Ultra and my Garmin Forerunner 265. The Hume Band looks like an alternative to Whoop with a similar upfront cost. The biggest concern I have is the app layout. With the premium app subscription at $99/yr or $15/mo, I hope there will be frequent updates in how they display the data that the Hume Band collects to make the data easy to understand and some practical insights on what to do based on the data. And hopefully the integration with the scale grows over time. The app will make or break the Hume Band as a product.

Literally all Apple has to do is release a device without a screen. It’s the reason most people want a whoop 

Honestly don’t see the point of these things. After 3 months of the whoop I could really easily predict my numbers. It’s simple. Alcohol bad. Late exercise bad. Late eating bad. More sleep is good. Nothing personal about it  A year later I cancelled it

I’m mostly a runner so yeah I heavily rely on my Garmin for almost everything. I use the whoop mostly for strain and recovery plus lifestyle tracking 

Oura ring is awesome from a wholistic point of view and the most consistently accurate device for tracking my baseline. However, it is a terrible fitness tracker overall. So, i use the Oura ring to track my overall health and Garmin/Apple Watch/Whoop to track my fitness.

I use a Whoop with the whoop underwear. It's pricey and I kind of regret getting it but it's been cool tracking my rolls. I don't know what to do with the information though.

U2 or s11 for a returning user? Background, I used to use the s6 before switching to a whoop. I've finally decided to come back to the apple watch. I use it just to track my gym workouts. I'm getting the ultra 2 for 550 euros and the new s11 for 470. Suggestions?

My Whoop was very off as a sleep tracker. I have insomnia and often lie for a very long time not sleeping and my watch always thought I was asleep. So that meant all my data for the next day which was based on how well I slept was completely wrong. Sometimes it would say I slept 7 hours when I know I slept three or four.

I used whoop for a while and it was nice

Coming up on 4 years with whoop, will be canceling and switching to garmin, no tolerance for this

I’ve been a whoop wearer for coming up on 5 years next month. The monthly plan is super annoying, I agree. And they handled the 5.0 release in May in a really sh*tty way which really turned me off from them. My membership is paid through June 2026 so I may reevaluate at that time, but it’s going to be hard to give up whoop because I love having a screenless device, the personalized insights, and the seamless UI. I always bought my membership plans when it was on sale (18 months for $18 month) which is why I’m paid up through June. If you can wait until Black Friday, they’ll probably have a similar offer. That being said, once I got into running and realized I didn’t want to run with my phone with me to listen to music, I also got a Garmin Forerunner 145 music. I don’t really use it for anything but to connect my AirPods and for the suggested daily workouts for the length of my runs. So… I am one of those people that wears two fitness bands like an a**hole. I also gave the Apple Watch Ultra a try about a year and a half ago and hated it so much I returned it. I really wanted to like it because I’m a huge Apple snob and have all of the products, so figured it would be an easy sell for me. But I genuinely did not like it. It was clunky, I could never get Spotify to work properly, and it was just a nuisance to work with. For the price point it should have been a seamless experience. I’ve never had issues with either my whoop or Garmin and in my 10 day trial of the Apple Watch I didn’t have a single day without some issue. Just my two cents!

I use both 🤷‍♀️. When I’m in Ironman training I do Garmin + whoop and when I’m not training, but just workout out - lifting, cycling, casual running etc I do whoop + Apple or just whoop. There is a time and place for each. Apple is great when I’m more casually working out and still want to run without my phone etc and use it for work for notifications so I don’t miss calls from my kids school, Garmin is great for performance metrics - running, swimming, cycling but year around it’s overkill unless you are training for some event, don’t want to constantly see I’m “detraining” or losing fitness, like I can’t be in Ironman shape 24/7. Whoop may be gimmicky, call it what you will, but stress monitor I love and whoop age is motivating for me. Think of these things as tools. If they benefit/fit into your life use them, if not let them go

This is awesome! Thank you. I’m planning on wearing Apple Watch series 10, fenix 8 and Whoop this upcoming weekend during IronMan 70.3 very excited to see the results so I know which ones to keep. I have Oura ring gen 3 but not even planning on wearing it since Apple Watch feeds it all the metrics. I’m hoping this will help me narrow it down to 1 device 😂 + oura for sleep

Whoop and Amazfit Helio.

This is gonna sound like a non-answer answer, but it depends on what you want. I have a WHOOP and a Garmin Fenix 5X, so I’ll compare! WHOOP is significantly better at tracking my HR, sleep, recovery (most of the time, sometimes it tells me it’s low but doesn’t tell me much past that), and calories burned based on HR. They also added steps and a new feature where you can track weight training, but the feature needs work. It’s not very user friendly right now but that specific aspect of WHOOP is fairly new, I’ve had it for about 3 years. Garmin is good for most of that same stuff. It’s great tracking your HR for runs, but if you’re a CrossFit/HIIT/interval trainer, it’s inaccurate because it doesn’t stay against your skin well during all the movement without being too tight. I’ve counted my pulse at 150-160 while my Garmin is reading it at 74, which throws off your strain and actual calories burned. If cost is also a factor, Garmin is better. A one time $200-$400 is a GOOD Garmin, though you can get into the $700-$800 range, and I’ve had my Garmin for 6 years. WHOOP right now is $230 a year as a subscription. If I had to choose one as purely a fitness tracker, I’d choose WHOOP 100/100 times. The insights it gives you - if used correctly - are awesome.

Yeah curious what you went with? I just freakin got this Whoop and chose it over a Garmin but when my subscription runs out I'll get Garmin. I wouldn't mind having the watch face tbh.

This was my understanding when I got a Whoop at the start of the year. I'd heard the rumors of a 5.0 but figured, why wait I'm going to get the free upgrade anyway. Should have known to never trust a company.

Their own videos and blog posts said upgrades were free ffs. There's gotta be a lawyer in the sub that can make a class action false advertising case. Seems pretty open and shut.

Apple blows at this. I feel like my whoop is an accurate assessment but Apple is off by a mile.

My whoop sub ends in November I believe and I too will be leaving for either Helio or Polar. Whoop done messed up!

Whoop was doing it right a few years ago but have since gotten greedy and definitely don’t have a “customer centric” focus at the moment. I like the app and some of the data it provides but the sensor is not top tier and I simply cannot fathom spending the $360 yearly ask for the MG. Just not something I am willing to continue at this point.

I have a whoop and I just wrap my wraps right over it

I wear both. One tells time, feeds me when my work meetings are, and plays spotify while I run. The other is whoop for health metrics. Welltory and Bevel are the best apps for the apple watch, but they aren't as accurate as Whoop IMO.

It might be! I think I lean towards Whoop because it has been pretty good at predicting my sickness. For example, on Monday I workout, eat right, hydrate well and get to sleep on time. If I wake up to 2% recovery on Whoop I'm like "uh oh here it comes" and 48 hours later I'm sick. Whereas I've never had the Apple Watch tip me off with a recovery score.

I’ve worn the Whoop for over 1200 days in a row including every roll I’ve done in that time and not had any issues. It has an arm sleeve and it has worked great.

Apple Watch with Athlytic. Very similar to Whoop. I wear both AW and Whoop together and really like both.

I use both. If you are very serious about fitness I would absolutely not use the AW as your main device. It very frequently fails to pick up data and the apps that are available for the AW are like 1/4 as good as Whoop. It's a great multi purpose device but either get both or get the Whoop in my opinion for health and fitness

I got myself a whoop earlier this year, and compared the two during my workouts (UW1), its actually pretty wild how much apple watch will overstate your calories burned, even after a clean on the sensor, some workouts where the whoop tells me i burned 600 calories, watch tells me i did 900 calories. That is a significant difference, especially when you are trying to plan out nutrition goals/fitness goals. Honestly I don't even wear mine outside of just tracking workouts. Whoop gives me better sleep insights, and overall health insights that the UW simply doesn't provide. Apple Intelligence could change that, but seems like it won't be anytime soon.

I believe whoop does not use the generally accepted BMR formulas, and instead use their own "proprietary" formula to calculate BMR, as the commonly used formulas “grossly overestimate light to moderate exercise”. Obviously nothing will be 100% in calculating calories burned, but i'd rather plan out my meals/goals with the mindset that i am probably not "burning" as much as my AW says, and that isn't a bad approach all things considered if apple watch is actually correct. I mean sometimes when i'm doing a light lift, apple watch will tell me i'm burning 300 - 400 calories, and I'm barley breaking a sweat, but then whoop will say i only burned around 120-150 calories during that session, to me something just seems suspiciously off with how apple calculates BMR. In general if you are looking to lose weight/build fitness, a more conservative approach to what whoop is offering me probably makes more sense.

My wife got burned by her Whoop in a similar fashion last year and they did nothing besides deny, deny, deny then try to cancel her membership. They said things like "their sensor logs indicated there was never any indication there was an issue with the whoop device". Kinda hard to believe when there was a whoop burn imprinted into my wife's wrist that perfectly matches the whoop she was wearing on the same wrist. Then they went no contact.

Disappointing if the negative reviews are true. I like whoop. But I really really have reservations about paying 2.5k over 10years if I’m gonna be a lifer

HR and Steps are off for me, HR being the big one since that’s the main metric driving other metrics. When I’m sweating and huffing and puffing doing cardio and Whoop says my heart rate is 110bpm, that’s a bit sus. Lots of ppl reporting this too.

But you can sell your AW to offset some of the cost of a newer version. More than you can say for Whoop unfortunately, where not only is the device worthless without a subscription, but you have to pay even more to upgrade.

I’ve loved my Whoop for many years

I’ve used almost all of them at some point. Whoop is by far the best.

I use Whoop, I believe it’s an option to where that places other than wrist.

Yes, there is a lot of it so I do find myself only paying attention to some of it so as to not become overwhelmed. The sleep side of things in particular is enlightening and I’m finding it’s impacting my decision making and causing me to be more intentional with regard to my sleep.

I prefer the whoop because of the way better battery life. Two weeks compared to two days is a huge difference for someone like me who doesn't wanna be charging too frequently because I keep forgetting about it

I used whoop for a few years and it’s fine. You can get bicep bands so they aren’t as visible. They also have some underwear options so it goes under the waistband, and other options that aren’t as visible. It’s the same core you can swap between different bands and formats so you can get wrist straps too and swap it between formats. The best aesthetic for a tracker is invisible so this beats any other options IMO.

I returned my Whoop yesterday. Had it for a month. Back to AWU. I loved the concept of Whoop, but the data is ultra inaccurate. Like really. Not even close. Therefore I had to make a decision... If that will be fixed one day, I'd like to come back to Whoop though.

This is what I do and have been doing with various sports for years. You can broadcast to a Garmin if you have both, just like with any other heart rate monitor, and I've found Whoop most comfortable to sleep with so you get full recovery stats too.

I used to use the Whoop. There is an arm band that I would wear. I lift/run/bjj and do MMA, so essentially, I was never recovered. The issue I had is that there's a subscription fee and I eventually stopped paying it, realizing that I never actually was recovered.

I enjoy the whoop as a low profile, low noise, alternative to my apple watch. But the apple watch was better at tracking my fitness. However I couldn't wear my nice watches with my apple watch and it was noisy. I prefer the whoop.

Honestly, there's a TON of overlap between Whoop and any other tracker you need. It'll have your HR and HRV, recovery scores, and target strain. The ability to broadcast HR to your phone should let you cover runs and bike rides in strava. Look into various Garmin options if you want something that can record multisport events, I think Coros can do those too. But if you just want something for easy workout tracking that records swim laps and ride/run HR + GPS route, a cheap Fitbit would do the trick as well. Personally, I use a Whoop plus a Garmin Fenix. The whoop is overkill, honestly, since Garmin has a "body battery" recovery metric and can tell you how hard to go with the training on any given day. I use the Whoop because I deal with behaviors very similar to exercise bulimia and I need something that literally tells me, "you've worked hard enough today, it is time to stop." If I didn't need that, a Garmin would absolutely be sufficient on its own.

I had an Apple Watch when I got a whoop about 3 weeks ago. I wear my whoop at all times, as the data presentation is better. I also get to wear my regular watches. For running , I lie to wear my Apple Watch as it is better for tracking my pace and displaying my heart rate. I hate looking at my phone for that. As for strength training I am stilll figuring it out, as the Apple Watch is really good for timers (rest time).

I wear an Oura ring, Whoop, and my Apple Watch. The whoop is my favorite out of the three for providing useful health data. Apple Health app is way too cluttered and doesn’t really provide any useful information up front. The oura app is pretty but I don’t really go into it much anymore.

I really like my Oura ring. That said, if you can tolerate how ugly the Whoop is, I found the data to be more useful.

Whoop on right watch on left, AW for work and other times I can’t look at my phone or need the convenience, traditional for traveling, night out or when I just want less distractions.

I tried the Whoop, returned it, and bought a Garmin Watch.  No way I was going to pay a subscription for something that won’t even tell me the time.  Hopefully I can keep the watch long enough to be cheaper than the subscription. I use the Sleep Score and HRV almost daily.  I’ve made some life changes that have improved both and made training better.  Ya you could do those improvements without the metrics, but it’s cool to see they worked.  Also HRV def gives me warning signs of fatigue and overtraining.  That impacts how much I focus on recovery.

I went mountainbiking yesterday and at the end of the trail there is a very challenging climb, Whoop said my heartrate was 110-120 while it felt like my heart was beating out of my chest...

Sleep data is great with the right tools - SleepWatch on AppleWatch is fantastic for seeing deviations from the usual baseline. Giving insights and recommendations and ideal bedtimes. It’s great to see how a good a workout improves sleep metrics whilst alcohol absolutely destroys it. Once you see this it’s hard to ignore. All of that said, AppleWatch now has an onboard app called ‘vitals’ which basically does the above and shows things in a nice simple format. I’ve had a Whoop and felt it best for those who train a lot of cardio and utilise the rest/recovery feature.

I was looking forward to this but it says it dosnt have an alarm. One of the things I love about my whoop is having the alarm vibrate to wake me up instead of my phone yelling at me in the morning. Guess I’ll try something different

I’ve had a Venu 3 for about a year. I like it a lot but the sensors are trash, sleep tracking is inaccurate, the connectivity to iPhone is annoying, and the app really sucks. I have also worn a whoop for the last year and much prefer the app, data parsing, and experience. Today I bought an AWU2 and I’m so stoked. It immediately felt better and the connectivity to phone is so much better. Sensors are much better. Continuous HRV tracking through the day. Much more scientifically rigorous sleep metrics.. SO much more functionality it’s night and day. The battery thing will suck. With Bevel app advancements this will easily replace my whoop and garmin tho and simplify my life while allowing me to be farther from my phone which is killer.

Apple Watch all day. Whoop sensors are worse and the company doesn’t care about its customers. Switched to AWU and will never go back. Love the Apple Watch + Bevel combo. Everything you get from Whoop and much more. Bevel is upgrading their app constantly and already better than Whoop who rarely add meaningful improvements unless they are trying to charge you more money. That said, if you don’t want a watch or that much tech on your wrist, and you don’t mind the price, Whoop is solid for what they do. I sound like a hater, but it’s good at basic measurement and feedback of sleep/strain/etc. Bevel just does way more.

Really insightful video, thanks. Not surprising that the Whoop was deemed to be the best overall, its just whether the cost is justified. The Amazfit seems to be not too far off though. I suppose it comes down to, which, if any device helps you to change your habits/behaviour for the better.

I recently had a 6-week trial with Whoop and did like the metrics and insight it provided. I may purchase a year at some point, but was waiting to see what discount there was for Black Friday. My main hesitation is that I also wear a Garmin watch. I run quite a bit and like having the real-time pace/distance/heart rate info available, and I'm not sure if wearing 2 devices is something I'd be happy doing long-term. The blood test results analysis wasn't available while I was on my trial, how have you found the insights from that? Also, I wasn't aware of the food logging, do you find real linkages between Whoop's native metrics (strain/recovery) and the blood/food info through the AI coach?

I wear a Whoop fitness tracker 24/7. It’s just a fitness tracker and doesn’t have any special Parkinson’s related features. It does track my sleep which I find helpful in getting me to focus on trying to do better. I also use it to track all my fitness activities. I use a couple of apps to track my fitness activities and I have a tracker app on my phone. I think some sort of basic fitness tracker is a must have for anyone with Parkinson’s given how important exercise and movement are to addressing Parkinson’s. There’s an old adage that things that get measured tend to get more attention so if you measure your fitness activities, you’re more likely to do more with more focus. If you get an Apple Watch, you get fitness tracking plus the added benefit of having some apps which are a little more focused specifically on Parkinson’s.

I hope you like your Garmin, I felt like the heart rate monitor was absolutely terrible on x2 tactical, no where near any of my Apple Watch’s or whoops. I’m excited To have ecg on a whoop.

I had a normal Apple Watch with Athlytics ~2 years ago to see if I was done w/ Whoop and it just did not cut the mustard. I actually really like Whoop and I’m gonna stick with it because it just works. It’s less finicky, unobtrusive, and it just does almost everything without my input. I don’t need to do any breathing exercises in order to clock my data for a proper score, battery lasts 5 days, etc. That might not be the case anymore, but, I just want my fitness tracker to do one thing. Like many, I didn’t buy the WHOOP for the subscription model and free device. I bought it to keep it simple while getting insights. Maybe I should be upset that I had to pay $75 for their top o’ da line device, but I also kinda don’t give a shit because it fits so seamlessly into my life in a way that nothing else really has. Glad you’re enjoying the ultra.

Hahah, I get asked alot about wearing two watches together. I love my analogue watches so whoop allows me to wear it.

Not really, Apple does a great job when it comes to sleep tracking but whoop in general has given me accurate data compared to apple. I tried both once together and whoop gave me accurate timing of my wake event.

I guess the tracking capabilities of whoop is better. My Apple watch used to show a-lot more calorie burn when I used to finish my workout, whoop is pretty accurate when it comes to that because you have to wear it 24x7, even when it’s charging you can wear it.

Yes it’s the same thing. In India it’s 30k per year. I got it from USA for 32k for two years.

I know, bro, but I use the watch, and I have experienced it. Prior to using this watch, I did not experience frequent headaches as I did not have data with me. I used to ignore it, but I know that I have all the data in the world, and my body works according to data.

Like you i have the F8 and Whoop. F8 is great for specific activities with granular detail when you record it. Whoop measures Strain all day long without you having to manually record it everything. E.g. a strenuous gardening activity, walking the dog all gets recorded (you have to assign these if it is not auto assigned by Whoop) without me having to consciously press record. F8 can't do that. So in every single day, Whoop records your daily wellness and activity levels. Far more useful information than metrics for a specific activity (F8 is great for training metrics so it has its place). I should add that assigning strain to a specific activity ain't important to me either. A day score is enough to tell me how active i have been. That and sleep data - much easier to understand. The HRV readings are not far off from each other (F8 vs Whoop). Will probably renew.

Do not trust anything Whoop says.. I was told when I signed up for a two year term that all hardware and software upgrades were included. It was just a bait and switch. As soon as my subscription runs out, I am running from work as fast as I can.

This is Reddit - it's full of rage echo chambers and stages for narcissistic collapses. It's the place you go when you want someone to witness (and validate) your latest tantrum. It's also very entertaining for the rest of us. Whoop is great imo, one of the best of the bunch. Will be renewing my subscription for a third year soon.

I just canceled my Whoop after 2yrs. I also have a Garmin Epix Pro (52mm), for which I finally found a comfortable band to wear to sleep. But I still can't wear it at work (Healthcare), and don't like wearing it to Mtn bike. Garmin has all of the pieces to put something together in this market as a Whoop killer. I'm gonna hold out hope for this, or just get a smaller marked down Epix Pro to wear on a bicep band.

Do you wear the swim cover for your band? Even when I make mine as tight as possible it’s still super inaccurate when tracking my swims

I found with the whoop it massively reinforced what I already knew and because there was actual data around it made me make changes to my lifestyle which I would otherwise have just rationalized away. Top examples were alcohol or a really salty takeaway/meal late at night, both had horrendous impacts on my sleep, heart rate and HRV, so much so that I had to make the conscious decision to want to impact my body like that rather than just pretend it's not happening. For you to get everything out of it you need to use the journal religiously.

I have defended Whoop a million times to people who have queried the billing structure. I just have no leg to stand on now. The technology is excellent and I really want it. But there is no way I'll be paying the upgrade fee. I'll be awaiting the next Apple Watch to see if it has what I'm after. Very disappointed. 3 years of excellent service (in my opinion) only to be utterly money grubbed.

I switched from a whoop to a Garmin with a chest strap and love it

I don't know why this person has all three, but my credit card had a $200 benefit for Oura. I decided to try it just because of the discount, and have come to the conclusion it isn't necessary with the Whoop. I also have a Galaxy Ring, which doesn't require a subscription and seems just as good as the Oura to me. Curiosity leads me to try all of this stuff but so far the Whoop has been the most impressive device.

What actually still intrigues me about the Loop is that I have greater trust in Polar’s capability of providing useful, accurate insights with their algorithms. For example regarding sleep, workouts, HRV etc. Especially compared to Amazfit, which I have a hard time feeling the same trust for. And for that I’d be willing to miss some other bells and whistles. I want research backed insights, not an extra few % better HR accuracy. If I am ignorant for thinking Polar provides that, I don’t know. Needless to say, their app needs a heavy redesign. And it’s too bad that they didn’t up their game on battery life, ANT+/extra BT connection, Elixir sensor etc. But those things might not be dealbreakers for me. And with the app update being in the pipeline I am a little less put off. The biggest downside to me, from what I’ve heard, is that the auto detection for activities seems quite bad and that you can’t retroactively assign activities. Especially if it’s the case that the HR data then isn’t contributing to your “activity/strain” data for the day… With the Loop being cheaper than one year of Whoop subscription, and arguably more trustable than Amazfits interpretation of the data, it’s still an option to me. I am currently on a Whoop trial though and I reallyyy like it so far, but I do think it’s a little too expensive, especially since I don’t like how they interpret HRV (acute, high changes are always better - not true). If they would’ve interpreted it like HRV4Training or Morpheus do, I could potentially go for it. And I might anyway since everything else is really quite good…

does it record STAIRS? I am disappointed Whoop at $300 does not track stairs

Apple Watch is better than Whoop and always has been in my opinion. The benefit of Whoop for me was being screenless and allowing me to wear dress watches without losing health tracking. If you aren’t into that, Apple is a no brainer in my opinion.

As a 24/7 device I think it’s the best on the market right now. I really like their clothes too. The only downer is the cost but the app is worth it for me in the end. I see it as health spending not a watch or gadget.

Haha I had to pay £80 for a replacement as I lost my whoop last week. No mention to me of the new versions. What a scam.

Not exactly answering your question but if fitness tracking is your main thing I use whoop. It’s screen less and pretty discrete looking. I wear this on my right wrist and an analog watch on my left. You can also wear it on your upper arm under your shirt to be completely hidden.

That doesn’t help you when doing anything other than movement with the arm you are wearing the whoop on. I’ve found it to be unreliable.

I use a Whoop because I was taking my Apple Watch off due to it interfering with wrist wraps, grips, front rack position, and kettlebell work. The Whoop is low profile and it can take a beating. It slides up my wrist easily and is out of the way when I have my wraps and grips on.

Contemplated getting rid of my Garmin and oura ring and just wearing whoop but the constant subscription 😭

Had a not of AWs. Both Ultra and also have the AW10 titanium. Only wear my Tudor and Whoop on the other hand. Love it. Waiting on the new Polar. No subscription and enabled import into Apple Health.

For those of you considering an Apple Watch - no matter the flavor, you will be disappointed. It offers nowhere near the granularity of WHOOP. It is very generalized data that they do not display in meaningful ways. I am brand new to WHOOP. I absolutely love it. I have been an Apple Watch guy since they released. I tried every app out there, nothing provides the level of detail and actually pretty freaking good AI recommendations and break downs of my metrics. I’m just sorry I didn’t jump on WHOOP earlier. My son had one and I thought he was being a dork to wear something on his wrist that didn’t even tell time! I was the dork. WHOOP Sleep does a much better job of breaking down the quality of your sleep than Apple. Recovery - yeah, Apple doesn’t do that. Strain, nope - not going to find that with a watch. My hope and prayer is that Apple doesn’t buy WHOOP!

That’s a tough one. I’m a big fan of whoop for me personally because it motivates me to work out and meet my goals, something I struggle with. You appear to not have that issue at all. The key is whether you’re going to use it and actually take any action on things it tells you. If it tells you you need to go to bed at a more consistent time are you going to make that change? If not then the whoop isn’t going to be very helpful. In any case you can try it for a month and return it if you don’t like it.

I loved my Whoop. My general read on a lot of the complaints is that they wanted it to be something different than it was. I've got an Apple Watch now, but there are times and situations where I miss my Whoop.

I don’t recommend anything tbh. I used a whoop for a bit, but I don’t get the point. You can train on days when you don’t feel 100% and you can rest on days when you do feel 100%. Plus, exercise is a pretty poor mechanism for weight loss, so the calories burned doesn’t really make a difference as my TDEE is my TDEE regardless. So I ended up ditching mine. TL;DR: whoop turned around was fine sorry for the rant

I would agree with you on that. I had Garmin fenixes for years, Garmin Epix pro, Apple Watch Ultra, amazfit trex 3 (current watch) and just got a whoop. Imo for weightlifting nothing beats the Apple Watch (ultra or not doesn’t matter) due to all the different apps available. I was using Hevy and the ability to do a live workout between the watch and the phone at the same time was dope: want to change exercice or do more complex changes during your sessions, you simply edit the workout on the phone. But if you want to do just a 5lbs increment on your lift, you can do it from the watch directly live. Only thing I am eager to test with whoop, which is a important part my decision to do the free trial for a month, is to see muscle strain and how it work in tandem with the cardio based strain. Whoop is the only wearable to do that ( but it seems you can do it with Bevel now)

Haha fair :D You know what they say: fake it until you make it lol Tbf, I need more time with the Whoop, but I did one weightlifting session, and I liked how it calculated muscular strain but I found the strength trainer not as good as say Hevy for managing your workouts. I think it will be manageable as I get use to it.

Agreed with your sentiments. Whoop for a lifestyle/sleep/recovery tracker is pretty far ahead of the competition. The best combo is Garmin watch (bike computer in my case) for tracking GPS/distance/speed based activities that require instant information & Whoop for everything else.

If you move all day, whoop will track it. Whether or not you are doing an activity whoop will count any increase in heart rate towards your "strain", and will give you sleep recommendations and adjust recovery based on that. The automatic activity tracking and auto sleep tracking are great. It's the most hands off device out there. Garmin only adds load when you are tracking an activity, so it can miss a lot if it's not a planned workout. But when you do track activities, it gives you much more information. Whoop is not a good activity tracker. It's a health tracker. You can really only see your heart rate zones for the activity. You can't see progression over time or compare it to previous workouts. For that you need garmin or Strava or something else. From what I can tell, Garmin is amazing at activities and good enough with health, while whoop does great with health but is poor for activities. Not sure if this helps, but it seems like there is no perfect option - Im going to have to make this same decision once my subscription is up.

Replacing Whoop as soon as my subscription is done.

Is it really rage quitting if you still had an active subscription? You didn't come back, you never left. Whoop pissed me off a bunch, but you better believe I wore it until the very last day I had paid for. Also, the NEED for the whoop is weird to me. I've got a loop and a panther on the way, but if one of those doesn't do it for me, this whoop-free month has shown me that I can continue to improve my health without it.

Garmin watch and now Whoop and never had an issue besides occasionally touching the hot metal on the watch.

I replaced my whoop with a forerunner and have been thrilled with the change; big up front cost yeah but it fully replaced all the recovery metrics I was using whoop for and got rid of the monthly subscription too

I had a AW3, 6 and 10 so pretty much wore one every day for eight years before switching to whoop about a month ago. I knew about whoop for a while but always thought "yeaa but my apple watch can (sort of) do all of that too". But there's two ways the Whoop has really convinced me: 1. the way it lays out the data. It doesn't just give you some magic "exercise" number, it tells you strain, what got you how much strain and how much you should push yourself at a given day. 2. As you're saying, screens and distractions are all around us anyway. Do we really need one on our wrist too? It feels really freeing to not wear my Apple Watch anymore and honestly, I really don't want to put it on anymore after having it off for a while. TLDR; Amazing decision to ditch the Apple Watch (even though i only got it last year...) for the Whoop.

I was thinking of getting one until I read this comparison review to Whoop. (Had Whoop for 4 years and loved it, but I couldn't justify continue paying for it.) [https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2025/06/amazfit-helio-band-in-depth-review-99-no-sub-fee-but-worth-it.html](https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2025/06/amazfit-helio-band-in-depth-review-99-no-sub-fee-but-worth-it.html)

Whoop steps is consistently very low for me with wrist and bicep band. Often 50-60% below Apple Watch. I contacted whoop about it and they didn’t do anything to address the issue

Founding member here. Never "cancelled" a subscription faster than when I received that email 2 years ago. Been following the noise of this new announcement for the laugh and I'm not surprised even a little bit. Whoop(s) has turned into a marketing company. Paying top athletes to represent them and they have to afford it somehow! Apple-like announcement in every way. Recycled tech, software update, ope and you have to pay top dollar for it. FYI been an apple watch ultra user since I cancelled. Charge it for 15 mins every morning when I make breakfast. No regrets.

I used AWU until I got Whoop. I wore both for a week and now only wear Whoop. I like not having notifications and feeling like I always have to instantly reply to a text. There’s very few places that I can’t glance at a clock to get the time so I haven’t missed my watch at all.

I was a Fenix 5 guy for 5 years, I was a whoop guy for 3 years, and now I’m a Fenix 8 guy for the next 5 years. :)

Damn I’m 19 days into whoop and I love it. Personal opinion. I’ve had no issues and the heart rate data matches up with the garmin fenix if not ahead. Sometimes whoop will get a heart rate reading then garmin catches up to. I can see everyone’s point though and I guess it’s what works for everyone :) I’m just happy it works with my heavily tattooed arm with my garmin doesnt. Garmin only works on a certain part where I’m not tattooed I think next year when my subscription is up for renewal I’ll then decide where to go but so far I’m in love.

Moved from Apple Watch to traditional. Was missing out out on the data piece but was happy to be rid of the notifications so I wear a whoop now.

Just got the whoop. Will not track your weightlifting accurately at all and maybe better with no bicep band. Hrv, hr, sleep all excellent and regarded as very accurate along with strain. I don’t need or want the apply watch stuff. But both are good. If you are more a recreational athlete maybe whoop.

Been wearing a whoop on my right wrist for years

I have a Whoop and Oura, and neither of those seem ideal for your use case. They don't provide continuous SpO2 readings, just a single daily value for SpO2 (I believe this is averaged overnight but not 100% sure). I take multiple times daily SpO2 readings with a finger pulse oximiter and they don't correlate super great with the wearable readings; the Whoop seems to underreport much more than the Oura. Here's a plot of the last 4 months to compare, with the average of my finger readings during the day in green: [https://imgur.com/a/dOAgBcm](https://imgur.com/a/dOAgBcm)

I’ve been rocking both for a year. The Apple Watch is still best as a smart device that augments my phone. I don’t wear it all the time, just when I’m out and about. The WHOOP is great as a fitness and health tracker. I wear it all the time even to sleep in. One of my main goals was tracking resting heart rate, because mine is naturally a bit high as well as affected by a medicine I take, and I’m seeing what I can do to improve it. For me, they serve two totally different purposes, and I wear them accordingly.

I used to absolutely love the Whoop. But there does come a point after a few months when it’s like “meh, now what?” Once you establish your body’s routine, rhythm, what helps and doesn’t, sleep pattern etc — the actual device becomes redundant.

That is weird. I bit the bullet and decided to go with the WHOOP!

I typically use my whoop daily and it’s pretty good as an all arounder for different activities. I basically never take it off. Plus side is battery lasts forever + no screen to ding up. If I’m doing something like hiking or running where I want GPS I’ll use Garmin fenix solar 7 (double watch!!)

Sounds like you want a Whoop. Whoop is great, particularly at recovery, but I ultimately chose to dump it in favor of Garmin because I hate subscriptions.

Apple Watch for working out & mechanical + Whoop rest of the time.

I also have a whoop! I like it as an option for climbing because the way it's designed, the fabric of the strap folds over the actual sensor when you wear it, so even if you bash it against the wall you're much less likely to damage it (vs the horrible cracked/scratched screens I've seen on people who climb with apple watches and similar).

I was with whoop for 4 years. Left last year cause I just couldn’t justify the cost since I haven’t been active enough to need more than my Garmin when I do an activity, plus some bad relationships with sleep metrics. That being said, I’ve thought about coming back and Oura seems the way to go depending. I think Oura/Whoop is comparable to the Apple/Garmin situation. Apple is a great smart watch that’s good at fitness. Garmin is a great fitness watch that’s good at smart watch stuff. Whoop is a great tool for heavy athletes, and Oura is a great tool for people who may not be as serious about it.  For me personally, I couldn’t care less about strain atm. I just want to find a way to maximize my Deep and REM sleep on as few hours as possible, and buying a second hand Oura 3 for $100 seems like a better route than Whoop again 

Love this! Curious to know: did you wear a hydro sleeve over your Whoop during the swim? I noticed it gives me way more reliable readings when swimming as it keeps to Whoop better glued to my skin

I used to train with an Apple Watch but the constant charging and short battery life drove me crazy — I had it die on me more than once during long runs and brick sessions, which is super frustrating. Switched over to the Garmin Forerunner 965 and it’s night and day. Battery lasts over a week even with GPS workouts, the tracking is way more detailed, and it feels built for hybrid athletes instead of just being a smartwatch with fitness features tacked on. If you’re planning longer sessions or races, Garmin is the safer bet. Apple has better UI/UX thought, I will say. I also have a Whoop which is great, but it's not helpful for tracking since there's no screen

I've been wearing a whoop for over 5 years, and recently started wearing a garmin...just did my first hyrox, so I wanted a way to actively track my HR during the race. The two are usually within a couple beats of each other when I'm working out, so I'm happy.

In the same boat. I’ve had my whoop for about 6 years and love it, but it is absolutely useless for running lol. Best solution would be getting a garmin you only wear when running

I personally love it and have been using it for 4 years. It’s helped my training, sleep and diet a great deal, and it has all the metrics I want. I know it gets a lot of shit from some folks, but I dig it.

New to Whoop, but was also between this and the Oura. I like to have everything in one place: activity, health, sleep. I feel like the Oura is best for sleep, the Garmin is best for activity, and Habitify or Way of Life for tracking healthy behaviors. But I, personally, prioritized ease over accuracy. The Whoop isn’t perfect (read this subreddit), but it is for me, because it’s one device, one app. Technology only works if you use it. Having everything consolidated and easily accessible made Whoop the right choice for me.

I would say Whoop plus a normal watch. Whoop does not even have a screen so it should satisfy the protocol. Alternatively you could get a fitness ring if you do not want to wear two things on your wrist. As far as I know, all Garmin models come with smart watch functions (ie they have a built-in notification capability). I also found this: https://nowatch.com It looks like an analogue watch but appears to offer health functions, yet no notifications etc.

Whoop is nice but it doesn’t really do anything that other wearables don’t and it costs a shit ton whereas most wearables are a 1 time payment. Glad I’ve been out of whoop for over 2 years now

Whoop step counter is a joke. It reliably thinks I'm walking twice as much as every other fitness tracker I've ever had. It is a good sleep tracker though.