
Roborock
Qrevo S
Reliable, great mopping (lifts pads), but poor cable avoidance.

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I had an x40 ultra that got warranty refunded. I’m in my first week with my L50 ultra and I’m cautiously optimistic. After a few days fiddling with settings it is operating how I would like it and doing a decent job of it. It does have the hardware for matter but is not “yet” supported. The only negative I have so far is that it’s battery life is atrocious.
I’m about a month in with my L50 Ultra. I’m in a 750 SF NYC apartment with wood floors, tile and 3 low pile area rugs, 2 sheddy dogs and a sheddy (beautiful) wife. After reading this post I just flipped my bot over for the first time to check the brush. ZERO tangling. It does fantastic on the hardwood/tile and I would say it’s very very respectable for the carpet. I upgraded after an X40 Ultra had a fatal error and am much happier with this unit than the X40 Edit: the “hair compaction” feature in the base station also seems to be quite effective.
I’m about a month in with my L50 Ultra. I’m in a 750 SF NYC apartment with wood floors, tile and 3 low pile area rugs, 2 sheddy dogs and a sheddy (beautiful) wife. After reading this post I just flipped my bot over for the first time to check the brush. ZERO tangling. It does fantastic on the hardwood/tile and I would say it’s very very respectable for the carpet. I upgraded after an X40 Ultra had a fatal error and am much happier with this unit than the X40 The “hair compaction” feature in the base station also seems to be quite effective.
I live in a one bedroom NYC apartment with wood, tile and low pile carpet. I have 2 dogs who shed constantly and a beautiful wife who also sheds constantly. I previously had an X 40 ultra. It was constantly getting tangled, even with the tri cut brush. Plus, after a few months it really just wasn’t picking up debris. Even though I serviced the filters, base station etc. So far with the L50 I haven’t had any of those issues. The only real complaint I have is the battery life and its navigation/map took a few weeks to really dial in with my apartment.
I can not recommend dreame/mova (same company) our x40 ultra went back to them because it did not do the job, I was on tech support for over a week with zero answers. I can not speak about the newer models, they are not on any of my lists. Roborock is at the top, their mapping is top notch and feature set as well. Narwal flow but i dont think the onboard bin is going to handle 2 German shedders even with a daily schedule. Ecovacs has a good rep and so does eufy. we will see what happens on the 20th and 28th. if I bought early I would want to know if they have a price guarantee in place just in case. dont want to over spend on something that wont last 3-5 years ie. app, battery ,parts
Roborock saros 10r top of our list Eufy E25 2nd this is already at BF pricing according to eufy Dreame/mova same company and had x40 returned it Narwal not seeing the fantastic reviews from individuals and the onboard bin might be too small for 2000sqft home with 2 shepherds even with daily vac JMHO
Hated dog hair the bin is small and it had no option to go back any faster to the base to empty so it would just push piles of hair around till the algorithm told it to go back and empty but it would never retouch the pile it left. they kept telling me to select a function that was not in my menu. so they took it back took months but its gone. and service is 1 email a day after they answer the phone on first ring so one problem will take a week to sort out and they dont want to call you back, just email there comes in around 2 am yours goes back at around 9am and then wait
If you have the gift card, I dont have one but dont want the e25, Im looking at the mova z60, I just dont want the experience we had with the dreame x40 pushing dog hair around and never really picking it up. we have the bot run everyday a little over half the house twice a week and the main are daily with 2 german shedders well you get it
Sounds like its the one, my x40 never got an update to make it empty more often
I have the X40 Ultra and really enjoy it.
My home is a mix of hard floors and rugs. Last week, on a whim, I got the Shark PowerDetect 2in1 (vac and mop) from Amazon for £477. I was impressed with the cleaning power of it but had to send it back because I was unable to get it to clean under my sofa or up to the kickboards in my kitchen. I would have kept it if it wasn’t for that. Today I got a Dreame X40 Ultra Complete for £699 as I did my research this time and have found it to be a lot better suited to me and totally covered what was missing from the Shark.
I got my first robot vac last week, a Shark 2in1, and found that the app/controls were lacking (I couldn’t get it to clean under my cupboard doors up to the kickboards or under my sofa) so I called Shark and they told me to send it back for a refund. I did some more research and got a Dreame X40 Ultra Complete that I am very happy with.
Check out the Roborock q5 max+ Now this is a bit over budget, but Dreame has a refurbished store on eBay and was selling the x40 ultra refurbished for $399 last week. Just bought one the other day. Looks like they’re out of stock but I wouldn’t be surprised if they get more in if you keep an eye out. They also have the [l40 ultra for $449](https://ebay.us/m/UROL86) rn. You will not beat that value and performance at that price. Just wanted to point it out in case you have some wiggle room as you get better vacuuming, self refill and emptying mopping, plus cleans its own mop pads.
The x40 that I bought was refurbished and had wonky navigation so I sent it back, but bought a new l40 ultra and I really like it. The navigation is pretty good and object avoidance has been pretty solid too. Is it perfect? No. And the T80 is probably still a bit better at mopping. But it was good enough for me to realize that it wasn’t worth paying the extra money for the T80 or e28. So both of them got sent back and I kept the l40 ultra. As for the Mova v50, I have it sitting in its box still in my house as I decided I’m going to send it back for the fact that I don’t feel it’s worth me spending twice the price as the l40 ultra for what is likely marginal performance gains. Don’t get me wrong I am sure it is better, but I’ve come to the conclusion that the robot vac tech is just moving so quickly that spending money on a premium robot whose features will be dated in just a couple years wasn’t a good idea. So I’m happy with the performance of the l40 ultra and will be keeping that one.
Dreame was selling refurbished x40’s on eBay for $399 the other day. Such a killer deal I had to snag one.
Valetudo just got support for a couple of eureka robots, the J15 for example looks really decent. Otherwise the Dreame X40 Ultra Heat also supports Valetudo.
Yea, I‘ve heard about the versions mess of dreame. That’s one of the reasons that there will be no further support for future dreame robots. Unfortunately I don’t have any trustworthy tests of the X40. It is just the newest dreame model that supports valetudo. There is also the mova p10 pro ultra, which seems to be decent. But this one is basically not available on Germany
It is just a possibility if you get a step wrong or are to slow. It is not complicated, but the last step of rooting the robots needs to be completed within a time limit. So it needs to be done carefully and well prepared. I know, that’s a big disadvantage of the Eureka robot. That’s why the X40 would be still my favorite

Roborock
Qrevo S
Reliable, great mopping (lifts pads), but poor cable avoidance.

Roborock
Saros 10 Series
Slim, quiet, excellent avoidance, but weak on carpet.

Dreame
L40S Ultra
Superior avoidance, great for pet hair, but poor on carpets.

MOVA
P10 Pro Ultra
Budget king, smart avoidance, but struggles on patterned carpets.

Roborock
Qrevo Curv Series
Great for pet hair; handles high thresholds, but poor avoidance.

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Dreame - X50 Ultra

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Roborock - Saros 10 Series

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Roborock - Qrevo Curv 2 Flow

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Roborock - Saros 10 Series

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Dreame - X50 Ultra

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