Dreame - X40 Ultra

I have an i7+ here that was almost a thousand bucks when I bought it - it never worked right, never found its base station, ignored zones, didn't charge half of the time, total garbage.  I now have a Dreame X40 Ultra and couldn't be happier. It just works.  No HA integration though. 

If you have hardwood flooring, get Eufy S1 Pro (best mopping device. No other vacuum is remotely close) If you have some carpets, get Dreame x40 Ultra (edge cleaning and mopping)

1) it doesn't have suction matching Dreame x40 Ultra 2) it can't clean Conor like Dreame x40 Ultra There are some reports of water leaking. I have not seen this in Eufy. I used for over a month no water leaking noticed. This is best mopping vacuum no other robot vacuums come remotely close.

I own x40 and s1 pro Eufy has excellent support. Dreame are ok it seems sometimes they don't understand what we are trying to say. I can be wrong, but it feels like they use Google Translate to reply to emails. They have better overall product 🙂 S1 Pro is best if you don't have carpets.

I got an Dreame X40 Ultra

No worries - I tried a new Roomba 10 Max or something and it is just as bad as my old one. I returned it and got a Dreame X40. Night and day difference. I’m sure your Curv will do just as well!

Just got the [Dreame X40 Ultra ](https://www.reddit.com/user/Accurate_Shine5695/comments/1jhg9u6/best_highend_robot_vacuums_of_2025_a_quick/)and it’s a game changer for pet hair! Super strong suction, picks up all the fur without any issues. Plus, the vacuum AND mop combo is perfect for keeping everything spotless. The self-cleaning and self-emptying features are a big bonus, less hassle for me. Highly recommend if you’ve got pets!

The Dreame X40 Ultra uses advanced LiDAR navigation and AI-powered object recognition to effectively detect and avoid obstacles, including small objects and potential hazards. Its upgraded sensors make it more reliable in handling unexpected messes compared to older models like the Roborock S7. While no RoboVac is 100% foolproof, the X40's smarter navigation significantly reduces the chances of mishaps like running through pet waste.

I purchased a refurbished Dreame X40 Ultra from eBay. It’s been super solid. I just got the tricut brush to see if I can get a little bit better performance on carpet with our shedding dogs.

I’ve got a Dreame x40, and my sister in law has a Dreame l30. We’re both super happy with them.

I have a Dreame X40 ultra. I live in a 1 bedroom apartment with 2 sheddy dogs and it does an ok job on carpet and a pretty good job on hardwood. I bought it refurbished on Amazon for around $700

I just got an eBay refurbished X40 Ultra. It has been great so far. But I don’t think any robot vacuum can truly replace a handheld vacuum/mop. I tend to think of these as a nice maintenance option to keep the dust bunnies and grime down. But I will still be doing semi regular vacuuming and mopping by hand.

Hi folks - new X40 Ultra user. We’ve had the unit running for a couple of weeks - her name is Consuela (no doubt someone here will get the reference. I’ve let her do her thing and while the actual mopping and vacuuming performance is fantastic, there are some things that I would hope the AI would have ironed out by now. I’d be curious to know others’ experiences and if y’all have any advice. The primary issue is the CleanGenius mode is rather stupid. I have a 3br/2ba in which the main daytime living areas are hardwood (with some rugs and runners) and tile. The bedroom are carpeted. The total square footage of our home is 1,913 sq ft. I am writing this post just before 9AM PDT. Consuela started a full home CleanGenius clean exactly 24 hours ago. On the first vacuum pass yesterday, she got stuck under my bed (there is enough clearance). No one could reach under to get her, but I was manually able to drive her out. She went back to base, charged up and then proceeded to start vacuuming from scratch the areas that were already done. She continued vacuuming and went back to base to recharge. I then when out for the evening. When I got home later last night, I saw that she was charging and in DND mode - and would continue cleaning in the AM. When I saw my wife this morning, she told me that she was very confused because Consuela came into the bedroom four times to vacuum. This morning she is mopping, which she started last night. As I write this, she’s stalled out waiting for me to empty the wastewater. So I guess I need to ditch CleanGenius mode and so custom. The one time I did custom last week to just vacuum certain rooms, she did great! Additional questions: 1) Is there a way to see progress of what she has and has not cleaned? 2) I think I will use custom mode from now on. Given the configuration and square footage of my home, what should I be cleaning, when and how often? For example, should I vacuum all of the carpeted areas on Tuesday and then Wednesday vacuum and mop the hardwood and tile? 3) Any other tips/tricks? TIA

Don’t get me wrong, I love it already. I’m being patient with it as it gets used to my home and I’m sure it leans more with each clean. And I’m sure Dreametech is working on firmware updates all of the time. Just curious, what does your custom cleaning settings look like? Like how wet do you like the mop, mop extend frequency, vacuum strength, etc.

I have the S1 Pro. It would do a much better job then the X40 regarding mopping and have navigation that's at least as good. But the X40 as a massive edge in corner cleaning and vacuuming on carpet.

I have a Dreame X40 Ultra and run it on a scheduled vacuum and mop every morning. Works well for 2 pugs that always shed!

I had an ecovacs x1 Omni that just bit the dust. The main brush stopped working after just over 2 years. Luckily I paid for a three year warranty so I got an Amazon gift card for the original purchase price and I got another one - went with the dreame x40 ultra this time - and you better believe I added another three year warranty.

New Dreame stores in southern california have the X40 ultra with tri-cut hair brush on sale for $500 until Fathers Day. Just have to call to place the order and they should ship anywhere in the US. Great deal and got one myself!

I was watching just a dad with his dreame x40 ultra app and with that robot you can designate ramps on the map. While I had my qrevo master I never saw any settings like that in their app.

I only have the x40, was part of a trial group, love it. 41418 sqft, 14670 min run time, 303 cycles. Best $0 i ever spent lol.

X40 ultra

Love my x40!

For the most important floor: Dreame X40 Ultra with TriCut Brush, for other floors choose a budget

I have the Dreame X40 ultra and I happy with moping. Vacuuming is so so. I have only ceramic tiles that look like wood with big grout lines. It messes a bit the vacuum performance because floor is not perfect and grout lines are big. Don’t expect great afters sales service. Timely updates that something messes things up but it gets solved after a while. One thing that I learned is that all go above marketing and many times they lie about features. In my case vacuum power is not that great, hot water mop washing is actually warm water, obstacle avoidance is a software thing now you have it perfect in next update it’s a mess. Dreame has poor smart home integration. You will find yourself using the app/widget a lot

Look into roller mop devices. Also do care about things that are dropped on the floor. I have the Dreame X40, cleaning is overall good but stains are a hit and miss. Candy or other sticky stuff is no go, like 0 chance of proper cleaning. You should be better with a roller mop because it cleans the mop constantly. Obstacle avoidance is critical for things like pens, crayons, toys. Here Dreame is good but not perfect. I had several pencils caught in the inlet. Family with 2 kids 8 and 4 + cat living in rural area. Additional advice, take the time to educate your kid, accidents happen but a jerky attitude sticks forever…

X40 hardcore owner here. Have it since February and have above 22k square meters cleaned (one shot vac and mop). My experience: more than decent obstacle avoidance. I am generally cautious about leaving cables on the floor. There were several situations in which the mop pads fell off due to cables getting tangled. The most dangerous is cables around walls and barely touching the floor. If a cable is dropped in the middle of the room it will be detected. Crayons and pens are its Archiles heel. Toys, if large enough, no problem. Lego is a no go. Clothes ok, socks - ok most of the times - I only had a incident. There is a function to clean around furniture legs - perfect cleaning of space allows it to go around. Things to keep in mod for Dreame - tech support and warranty tends to be shit, smart home integration non existent - not even decent integration with Google Assistant or Siri. Careful about carpets and ruggs - I don’t have any but people complain about Dreame in this regard. Watch some videos - non sponsored ones if you want the truth. Feel free to DM if I can further assist.

I have the X40 and i agree, the TriCut brush does make a big difference. Plus I like the extending mops and robo swing tech to go under the low hanging places like this -> [https://youtube.com/shorts/Nwas4UMqNBo](https://youtube.com/shorts/Nwas4UMqNBo) Again, I still feel, any robot vacuum is not a 100% replacement for manual deep clean.. Example, corners and sides etc. (even with the extendible side brushes -> [https://youtube.com/shorts/L8BG\_fKbz0E](https://youtube.com/shorts/L8BG_fKbz0E) ) sometimes leave a little dust/debris time to time, or right at the edges of the rugs etc., Just gets the everyday cleaning chores a little easier. Still a + in my books.. X40 Object avoidance is great.. Have seen roborocks tangle with cables in almost all reviews but yet to find mine do the same.. And now with Black friday deals going on, its listed for less than the L40 on Amazon (in US at least). More suction power, bigger battery power and i guess 1 extra laser on the front for less.. thats a good deal. only thing missing/lacking vs the L40 is i guess the voice command, which are again going to be hit or miss anyways. I have scheduled my unit to run everyday before we wake up so dont need that gimmick as such. Plus it has "works with Alexa" but i hardly use it.. Just my 2 cents. :).. Good luck finding your product.

I have the dreame and its my 1st robo vac. So Cant say how the other 2 are but the X40 Ultra is really really good at avoiding obstacles.. The other thing i found missing is that the brush doesn't work on carpets. I would think it wouldn't hurt to have it run and try to send as much dirt/debris on the carpet towards the main roller brush anyways. I have read somewhere that its already being made available in certain regions with a s/w update, I haven't received it thought. All in all, pretty good with my purchase. Good luck

Hello, I may be a bit late to the conversation but figured I'd throw my hat in the ring anyway. I think for your needs, the Dreame X40 Ultra would be a great fit. It has great customizable mopping for your tile, has sensors specifically made for rugs if you'd like the robot to avoid cleaning them or clean them better. The battery life is substantial enough as well to handle the area you are needing cleaned as well, and the best part is the X40 Ultra is definitely competitively priced considering its features, and you can get the best price by ordering from physical stores that ship free across the U.S. Hopefully this was a little helpful and you can make the best decision for your home, thanks for taking the time to read and happy hunting!

Hello, glad you're looking for a new RVC. If I could recommend one that would be similar to the N30 model you were thinking about at purchasing, I would look at the Dreame X40 Ultra. I know I'm a little biased, but, from personal use and going out to people's homes, the X40 is a great machine for the current price to feature set you're getting out of it. The X40 Ultra will have a good LiDar scanner that constantly maps your home as it explores, has 3d structured lights which help it avoid or detect objects and has good mopping/sweeping functions that clean corners fairly well. Battery life is great as well so it can cover a fairly large area before needing to recharge, and when it comes to setting up schedules/zones, that can all be customized to your liking in the app. you specify you need zone mapping and scheduled cleaning for specific zones which you can most definitely program. for example: if you'd like room 1 and room 4 to only be vacuumed at 4pm but not room 2 and 5 then yes you can do this. very customizable cleans as well, so you can set strength of suction and wetness of mopping. it's worth looking into, especially if you live in the US, as the physical stores ship for free and have the better pricing/promos than online. For the price it's hard to find a better deal. hopefully this helps a little and if you're in need of more info feel free to reach out. Happy hunting!

Hello, for what you're looking for as far as features and budget goes I'd recommend the Dreame X40 Ultra and the Dreame X50 Ultra. these models have great suction and capability when it comes to cleaning up hair and mopping on vinyl surfaces as well. The X40 Ultra will be the more budget friendly model of the 2 at a $499.99 price tag, which is still solid value for the features the X40 has. The X50 Ultra will definitely be the more expensive of the 2 with a $1200 price tag before tax, which if you don't mind paying for dual brush cleaning, faster self charging base and self cleaning dryboard than I think it's also a solid contender. I know this post was from a few days ago but still wanted to give my two sense on the matter and hopefully this helps you with your search, happy hunting!

Out of the two Dreame models you asked about, I'd go with the X50 if its superior vacuuming and fur cleaning you're looking for. It will have duo brushes to agitate and pick up better when vacuuming and better overall suction to pick up more debris on a single pass through. X40 isn't a bad machine at all, but for medium carpets with dog fur shedding, I'd go X50 and be happy with the purchase the first time around rather than wishing I had went with the other model. The Mova will be similar in terms of build to the X40 so I wouldn't go that route, plus they get you 3 years of warranty versus 5 yrs on the Dreame. Roborock will be the next best one when comparing it to the X50, they'll have similar sensors for objects and quality of life features such as voice control and self cleaning, the Roborock just costs a bit more but will be similar overall, so if it were me choosing between the 4 models, X50 is an easy choice. Hope this helps, Happy Hunting!

Hello, glad you're looking for a new robot vacuum, for the price to performance ratio a comparable Dreame model would be an X40 Ultra which in my opinion is a great vacuum for the price, its suction power is similar to the narwal as well as mapping capability but at a better value. I think it's worth looking into. likewise if you want a Dreame in the budget of $1000 you're looking for, the X50 Ultra is an easy sell right now since it went on sale recently, better suction, fast charging and self-cleaning dry board are all great quality of life features worth the upgrade. hope this helps a bit, and happy hunting!

Hello, If you're looking for something that's great for pet hair, has great battery and sensors for carpets/rugs as well, I'd suggest going for either the L40 Ultra and the X40 Ultra models from Dreame. Both will come free with Cutting Brushes that are designed with fur/hair in mind, and they also have strong suction for cleaning carpets/rugs as well. They don't break the bank either, with current physical store promotions, hope this helps narrow down the search, and happy hunting!

the mopping portion in my opinion is definitely worth it, considering most models that come with mopping also come with other convenience features beyond just mopping that justify a higher price. Even so, just because you can find good RVC's at a premium doesn't mean you have to pay a premium, the DREAMME X40 Ultra and L40 Ultra are great examples of RVC's that give you good quality of life features and can be had for a better price than the model you we're looking at.

Yeah i am definitely returning this & will try dreame ultra x40. Lets see if that does a better job.

I think the X40 Ultra would be good as it can remove mops. In my experience, ones that only lift mops end up wetting the sides.

There are much better robots you can buy at the same price or lower. There is the dreame x40 ultra for £1099 which will greatly outperform the deebot x5 pro. It has hot water mop cleaning, tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, and good mopping. Dreame robots have the best edge cleaning out of all the brands. There is the dreame l40 ultra for £849, a much better deal as it is essentially the same as the Dreame x40 ultra except for battery life. Since you didn’t mention having a pet, I think the best value choice is the dreame L10s ultra Gen 2 (£549). Also tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, strong all-around performance, but no hot water mop washing. Just take care of your cables and it’ll do well.

I think the Dreame L/X40 Ultra (choose whichever is cheaper) would be a better fit for you with the TriCut brush. Best object recognition and obstacle avoidance (Narwal is similarly as good) Better vacuuming than the Narwal but not as great as the Roborock Curv (I don’t think that the price justifies its performance) The Eufy S1 pro and the Narwal Freo z are great at raw mopping performance but the Eufy can’t deal with hair well and it seems vacuuming is a bit of an issue. Dreame’s eh raw mopping is compensated by its onboard CleanGenius to help it decide whether to go over areas.

How tall are the thresholds? Most can handle 2cm with no issue but only the x40 ultra (24mm) and the QRevo Curv/Edge (30mm for a single threshold, 40mm for two consecutive thresholds that are 30mm +10mm) handle higher. Otherwise, you’d have to use a ramp

Generally: Dreame will have the best edge cleaning. This is on the x30 ultra and newer with the L/X40 ultra and newer models having an extendable side brush with the best extension algorithm right now. Mop extension lacks a spring which means it can ride up on quarter round floor moldings if your home has any. Roborock Saros 10R and the QRevo Edge/Curv are nice choices if there are no cables or pet accidents for it to eat. Narwal is a very solid option. The Freo Z ultra has the best smart cleaning mode. It’s okay taking care of things like hair and visible dust but still isn’t as good as vacuuming as it is at mopping. Eufy s1 pro is a very solid mopping option. Won’t edge clean as well as the above models but mops pretty well.

Narwal Freo Z Ultra is the best robot mop but an ok vacuum. It does not have an internal water tank so this means it’ll have to frequently go back to the station to rewet its mops. This shouldn’t be a problem if your house isn’t very big. If it is, consider the other two models with an internal water tank. I’ve also heard mixed reviews about NarWal’s customer service. As for the app, I’m not so sure but I think it’s on par with the other brands (please correct me if I’m wrong). As the robot’s home is behind furniture, I’d recommend a model that has a self cleaning base station. Narwal doesn’t have this but I believe the next two models do. Dreame’s L/X40 has similar computer vision smarts and can extend and swing its extended mop under areas like the fridge where stains tend to accumulate with better vacuuming performance than the Freo Z. There’s currently no other model in the international market that can do this (NarWal’s 001 Max is still only available in mainland China). I’ve heard mixed reactions when it comes to its international customer service. The app is feature rich but means the UI will be more complicated. The QRevo Curv/Edge can also be considered but won’t have as amazing computer vision smarts as the previous two models. However, I heard the app has the best UI and that customer service can be mixed.

You can also consider Dreame’s X40 Ultra or the cheaper L40 Ultra if your household has long hair. Dreame released the extending side brush and extending right mop first and roborock copied them. A Dreame model with double anti-tangling conical brushes and their enhanced mop cleaning system that works like a dishwasher is likely to be announced for next year. Both Dreame and roborock are the most reliable brands. iRobot used to be as well but their app quality and consumer experience has been declining so I’ve excluded them. If you have only hardwood floors, you can consider the Eufy S1 Pro as its roll mopping is inherently better than those spinning mops. I have doubts about the ozone generator and the chance that the water tank may leak ozone into the air. It’s not good at edge cleaning and the only robot that can clean the edge is only available in mainland china and is miles better than the Eufy S1 Pro. You can consider the Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you’re okay with having to clean the base’s mop tray more and see it twerk.

Glad I could help! I’d recommend the X40U if you have carpets that aren’t easily replaceable or are expensive as it’ll remove the mops to clean carpets. The L40 Ultra is currently a better deal. I will say that my dog’s fur does gather around the part where the mop holder is attached to the robot but it’s easily removable and doesn’t throw the robot into a fit nor affect its actual functionality. But then, this is an issue I found to be common with any rotating mop model. I genuinely have no idea how the fur somehow doesn’t get stuck in the actual mop but goes above it. Dreame’s app is also rather feature rich at the expense of the UI. If you want to purchase any dreame, I’d recommend getting it from an authorized retailer as customer service will be more hassle free. Dreame’s own customer service is only good if you speak Mandarin Chinese. I highly recommend buying the dirty water module from Dreame on AliExpress. It really does work in my experience and it’s genuinely never been stinky, negating the need for me to put bleach in it and shaking it around. Just ask 是正品吗? Which means are the products genuine? If they say it is or it is original, it is the real one. If it’s not they’ll say it’s either compatible or suitable (depends on how AliExpress will translate it).

Best model for 2025 release in the US is probably Dreame’s X50 Ultra as it seems to best meet all your needs. Currently, I do not think any current models will sufficiently meet your requirements as the current models have some drawback in the requirement you have mentioned. Dreame X/L40 Ultra compared to X50 Compared to the X50 Ultra: Double brush system has worked much better on carpets than with the TriCut brush. Both approaches perform just as well on hard floors. Dreame’s X50 Ultra’s double brush performs better on carpet. For some reason, the bristle brushes on all the older models (rubber and bristle combo brush and the TriCut brush) liked to eat some of the fiber on my low pile densely packed carpet. I’m not sure if this is universally applicable to all carpets as I haven’t seen other people report this issue. However the second bristle and rubber combo brush on the X50 Ultra did not do any of that on my carpet. It can’t clean its own filter like the X50 and the X50’s AceClean mop cleaning system with water jets are much better at self cleaning the washboard than the X40 Ultra’s washboard with wipers. The X40 washboard also has some difficult to clean areas and little nooks and crannies that I didn’t really like cleaning If you have furniture with low clearance (under 10cm): the X40 cannot make it under there whereas the x50’s retracting lidar can. If you have high thresholds above 24mm, you’d appreciate the Dreame’s new threshold climbing legs No ability to compress the fur in the dust box while it is vacuuming to maximize the use of the dustbin volume. Roborock’s obstacle avoidance isn’t as good as dreame.

Currently available in the market and is a general all rounder for both vacuuming and mopping with good anti-tangling: dreame X/L40 Ultra, Roborock QRevo Curv/Edge, Dreame’s subbrand MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if lack of mop removal isn’t an issue and is the cheapest at 659 USD. To be released in a month: Dreame X50 Ultra with the best mop washboard self-cleaning system (preorders are open to purchase it for 1309), Roborock Saros 10R (February release, no preorders) To be released within the first half of 2025 in the US: MOVA V50S Ultra (little is known but I am hopeful), MOVA Z50 Ultra (most is known and it seems to have X40 ultra level vacuuming but much better mopping), Narwal Flow (excited about this one but no reviews anywhere)

There is the dreame L/X40 Ultra with the TriCut brush or the Roborock Edge/Curv which I think will be similar in terms of all-around vacuuming and mopping while having good anti-tangling. The Dreame will have better edge cleaning if that is what you’re after but the roborock will have a simpler ui.

Bald dogs 😂 You asked this at just the right time when anti-tangling tech has essentially matured in robot vacuums. Dreame (DuoStream or TriCut brush), Narwal (conical brush), and roborock (DuoDivide) offer great antitangling solutions for their main and side brush. It’s become cheaper too as this feature has matured.

I know dreame allows you to add ramps in the app for the x40 ultra.

For Eufy, I'd say only the S1 Pro is really good at obstacle avoidance. Eufy's strengths are its customer service and the good mopping in this model. It could be better for vacuuming. For Narwal, I'd say only the Freo Z Ultra is really good at obstacle avoidance. Vacuuming is a weak spot for Narwal as they focus more on mopping. For Dreame, the L/X40 Ultra would be the best at obstacle avoidance, with the X30 Ultra following it. Dreame is also a good all-rounder in cleaning but lags behind Roborock. Dreame excels with edge and corner cleaning. These three brands' models should be the leaders in obstacle avoidance.

These models are basically the same except for the mop removal feature. Same with the X40 ultra and the X50 Ultra but it’s also rated differently?

Please don’t believe his numbers. The L40, X40, and the MOVA P10 Pro Ultra have essentially the same mopping system but the test values are very different.

Would you like it to extend and wiggle the mops? I think this feature is best for cleaning stains under things like fridges or cleaning along the edges if your dog likes to drool along the edges too (mine does). There are three ways for anti tangling to happen. 1. Combs in the brush compartment. This is the least effective way. Ecovacs uses this method but reviewers have found it does get tangled with long hair. 3i and Eufy also uses this technique and I don’t know what reviewers say. 2. Active cutting of hair when it gets tangled Dreame uses this method. This method relies on the hair first getting tangled and then the hair strands will enter a groove where there is a hidden knife to cut the hair, sending it into the dust box with the vacuum fan’s help. Dreame’s brush is also engineered for the hidden knife to move like a razor after 23 revolutions. In my experience, it’s been stellar at long hair and my long haired corgi’s fur. Hair can get tangled on the sides if you use their old brush cover, they have a new brush cover now to cover the non-brush compartment of the TriCut brush and it works great at preventing any hair from getting to the sides. Midea also utilizes this method in a different way. It has really small razor blades built into the top of the brush compartment and is programmed to vibrate like a shaving razor up there to cut off any hair and the vacuum will bring the hair into the dust box. It seems to work well. The less efficient way I’ve seen this implemented is the base station having a blade cut the hair at the brush. The Mijia M30 Pro does this (stupid 3i Robotix) and it doesn’t work very well. The last way is using the airflow itself to get rid of tangled hair. There are brushes shaped like an archimedes screw with the brush fibers at a certain angle so any tangled hair will move to the narrow end of the brush and the vacuum inlet at the narrow end will suck it into the dust box Narwal does this. Dreame’s new models (currently only in mainland china) do this with two conical brushes, one rubber and one rubber and fiber bristles to suit both carpeted and hard floors. They solve a current problem with this conical shape as the narrower end of the brush will have less to no contact with the ground, reducing its cleaning ability. Dreame hid the narrow end and only the parts where it can have contact with the floor are exposed. Roborock also does this with a twist. Instead of the narrow end being to a side, it uses two brushes where the narrow ends point to each other and any hair will hence go to the middle instead of the side. Both the cutting brush and the conical brush design is great for any long hairs. The dreame cutting brush method is more economical as it isn’t restricted to one model only. If you wouldn’t like to carry your base station up, don’t get the Narwal. Although it has a handle for easier carrying, the lack of an onboard water tank means it can only clean about 5-15 square meters before having to clean its mops again. I also wouldn’t really recommend it as after any robot mop combo with a mop cleaning station makes the mops really wet after cleaning it, which doesn’t seem great for your wood floors. https://www.reddit.com/r/CleaningTips/comments/o011xc/how_do_you_properly_cleanmop_wax_finished_floors/?rdt=59160 Roborock does great too. The Q Revo Master Edge is also very tangle free with the duo divide brush. Best computer vision and related cleaning algorithm would go to Dreame’s X/L40 ultra. It’s smart enough to detect pet areas and give it special attention. Next year’s dreame X50 will have double rollers that are designed to be even better than the current TriCut brush. I heard it doesn’t do so well with much thicker strands that can’t fit into the razor compartment so the airflow approach to de tangling hair seems to be a lot better. I would have recommended the Eufy S1 Pro if it was good at dealing with long hair. It is a very solid robot mop. I also have qualms about the ozone generator in the water tank as I’m worried it could degrade the rubber sealing and leak….

Dreame/MOVA models with an RGB camera and Narwal camera enabled models are best at obstacle avoidance. As for hair: dreame/MOVA models with the TriCut brush will do just fine with human hair and pet fur. For longer hair, I’d look at the dreame L/X40 and newer (MOVA P10 Pro Ultra and newer) as the new side brush design is more tangle resistant compared to the previous one. If your pet sheds a lot, I’d recommend the Dreame x50 ultra as it can compress fur in its dustbin as it vacuums. Narwal’s Freo Z Ultra is a good choice for hair and fur too. It has great obstacle avoidance and will have the best smart cleaning program. There is also the LDS-only Freo Z10 which will be able to mop closer to edges and untangle any tangled hair on its side brushes These models all are combo models that mop much better than a swiffer. Upcoming models that will mop better than the previous models: MOVA Z50 Ultra and the Narwal Flow.

Since you mentioned your mother having pains, I’d recommend a very hands off model where it’ll clean itself. Out of the models you mentioned, the dreame x40 ultra will be the best. Set it to vacuum first then mop and the mop pad cleaning tray will be relatively clean.

Roborock isn’t as good as other brands when it comes to poop avoidance. Dreame, Eufy S1 pro, and Narwal are much better at this. MOVA is a subbrand of dreame. Narwhal Freo Z ultra Narwal flow should be better for carpets though but the lack of any hair tangle measures on the mop is an issue considering how the MOVA Z50 Ultra which mops great and works great with long hair with similar poop avoidance performance has combs to help with hair tangles on the mop. Eufy also doesn’t have very good carpet cleaning and as good edge cleaning compared to the previous two An all rounder should be the dreame X50 Ultra for fur compression if there are heavy shedders or the dreame x40 ultra/ MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if the main issue is mainly just long hair.

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

Eufy is not mentioned because it does not have this capability. Best mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra has the best raw mopping performance. If your pets are stinky, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the MOVA V50 Ultra will be my recommendation as it has the duosolution detergent tank which means it can use a special odor neutralizing solution or your regular floor cleaning solution based on your preferences set in the app. The MOVA V50 Ultra does mop better than the Dreame X50 Ultra because it can spin its mops up to 260rpm when it detects dried on stains and liquids and because it has a new mop pad holder that basically has suspension as it can go up 2mm and down 1mm downwards and tilt up to 5° to put as even pressure as possible on uneven floors. Honorable mention: Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Shame it cannot lift its side brushes. Variable mopping pressure of 8-12N but pales in comparison to the 18N of mopping pressure by the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra. Best software for detecting liquids and appropriately dealing with them: Dreame L/X40 and newer including the Aqua 10 pro track based on reviews. The MOVA Z50 ultra and the other MOVA models mentioned are also pretty good too at detecting liquids. Previously mentioned Roborock and Narwal models also seem to do well. I think all the models I mentioned should be on par for automatic remopping. Hardware: All models I mentioned should have a solid build quality.

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

Dreame’s models from the L/X40 Ultra and newer can clean corners well, both vacuuming and mopping.

The X40 Ultra is worth it. It has smarter obstacle avoidance and good self cleaning.

Narwal and dreame are the most problem proof with obstacle avoidance. The Narwal Freo Z Ultra fits your needs and so does the Dreame L/X40 Ultra. For cheaper options with not as good obstacle avoidance, you could consider: Dreame L20/L30/L40 If you want it to mop, I recommend connecting the base station to the water line.

X40 will do best for liquid spills since it can lift the main and side brush and avoid smearing. E25 will do best for dried on stains.

Both the Narwal Freo Z Ultra and the Dreame L/X40 Ultra do well avoiding cables and pet messes. Only difference is that the Dreame has to backtrack a bit for the computer to process the distance and whatnot since it only has one RGB camera but the Narwal Freo Z Ultra doesn't need to do this as it has binocular RGB cameras.

X40 Ultra for better edge and corner vacuuming and mopping. E25 for better mopping.

The dreame L/X40 are good all around combo models. The eufy models are better suited for mopping.

The X40 and L40 are essentially the same. I think the lower rating for the X40’s navigation is due to older firmware and the L40’s firmware is more polished. Just choose whichever model is cheaper. My TriCut brush works as advertised, no hair or fur tangles around it. The S8MaxV’s rollers are more prone to getting fur stuck on the sides and their navigation and obstacle avoidance isn’t as good as Dreame’s.

For spinning mops: Station Self cleaning: Dreame X50 Ultra > roborock Curv/Edge Saros 10R > Dreame L/X40 Ultra >≈ Ecovacs models with wipers in mop pad cleaning tray marketed as the 150 day cleaning free tray > roborock qrevo > all other dreame and ecovacs robots

What's your home like? Is it mostly hardfloors, carpet, or a mix of both? As for obstacle avoidance, the best options are the Dreame X/L40 Ultra and newer models, the Eufy S1 Pro, and the Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Roborock won't do as well for cables. If this isn't an issue, it'll be fine too. I don't recommend the roborock Z70, the Roborock Saros 10 and the QRevo Curv would be much better choices as accommodating the arm meant the cleaning performance had to be sacrificed. For corner cleaning, Dreame is the most aggressive in terms of its algorithm. Roborock is rather shy when it comes to cleaning corners with the extending side brush. I'm not sure about Eufy's E25/E28's extending side brush, but the square shape can make it harder for it to fit into corners if the algorithm isn't optimized. The Eufy S1 Pro and the Narwal Freo Z do not have as good corner cleaning capabilties.

The best self cleaning models can also clean the base station’s mop washboard and the vacuum’s filter. I’d recommend these ones which can do this: Currently the best at self cleaning: the MOVA V50 Ultra can dry it’s dustbin and dustbag to prevent mildew unlike the other choices which brings it above the other robots Almost there: Dreame L/X50 Ultra, L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra In the middle: MOVA P50 Pro Ultra Pretty okay at self cleaning: MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, Dreame L/X40, roborock models with the motorized scrapers, Narwal models with an all in one base station.

Dreame X40 Ultra.

The Dreame X40 Ultra he listed is better.

Yes, the roller mop should have enough oomph to lift up dry poop, but none of the models you listed have one. The Dreame X40 Ultra is better vacuuming on any surface than anything you listed. The Eufy Omni S1 Pro is excellent mopping but bad vacuuming. The Eufy X10 Pro Omni is equally bad vacuuming and the Eufy Clean L50 is even worse. Both are worse mopping than the Eufy Omni S1 Pro.

No problem. No, the L30 isn't very outdated/crap compared to the L40, but it has much less suction power. The eufy X10 Pro Omni has reduced suction power and is much worse than the eufy Omni E25 while not being much cheaper. That's probably the reason why some people say to stay away from it. Between those last 3, I'd buy the Dreame X40 Ultra. :)

Yes in fact its the ONLY ROBOT that can possibly clean my house divided with a 50mm floor height differential... If i can get things cleaned up and storage space for the YouTube videos I believe my work will have me as one of if not the only USA based client using X50 model - I will have a lot of info to share soon for anyone here - and show exactly why this was the one robot that i Didn't want to waste even the holiday discount on amazon USA Dreame X40 Ultra of $999 pre tax when $1600 could actually clean in entire house with features i had prayed would all be added into a single machine (Dual Tappered Rollers with attachment only on one side for complete solution to all hair tangles no need to cut them when like the Roborock Qrevo Curve has a split single version the same concept to not have hair tangle and drive towards in its case the center and into bin directly vs tangling in roller) Many.. many.. more examples I saw over all the parent companies differing products but never put into a singular one for US markets anyway.. And idk if the X50 Pro will ever be sold in US markets.. Most likely a dumbed down version! Justy like the X40 Ultra ... VS PPRO ULTRA that solves MANY of my issues as a designer that the X40 with a singular roller has.. That for the years they were decent pre <2017 that iRobot at least realized the dual roller is always superior to the singular and that you see added suction added to work dumber not smarter with everyone that was held back by their patent on the tech.. Anyway in a Dr. office waiting room.. Probably tons of typos but I was searching to check if X50 Ultra replacement filters and things will work on X50 Pro as its just a few days away now and came across this thread.. Will maybe share more and update this to not be as scattered later - But I need to even confirm our "Work Around" even functions.. I WOULD NOT Encourage anyone to order an X50 model of Any kind of in USA as Chinese people are willing to sell you hardware but not share you will be geo locked.. Some X40 models were able to have a VPN type workaround but they became more sophisticated with means to validate app and robot location and even limit ... well no warranty ..thats a given and horrifying for most.. But we arent even sure how firmware will go with the server \[I cant say more here\] But Ill be doing reviews soon and while they do change their security .. Its one reason id never advise anyone but those willing to have a $1500 paperweight.. with no support nothing! I am on the other hand a trail blazer and trying to overcome the issues keeping robots for US markets IMO .. Limited in ways... WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY FOR! And years of robotics work since... early childhood just made me repulsed by the options given to us here in USA.... Even if the X40 Pro ultra or BETTER X40 Pro Enhanced were vaialble .. Id not have such repulse for the designs.. But again my house (Studio) has a 50+ mm divider from main room here in the main area, to the bathroom which is elevated by that much that then another doorway and drops down that much into bedroom ... Needing cleaning.. Currently being cleaned by a Roomba something J7+ whatever thats being returned to amazon..

I would just get a dreame X40 or Mova P10 Pro ultra and then you won't have to tidy up at all since they have they best object avoidance while having great vacuum and mopping performance. Makes it easy to run the vacuum on a daily schedule when you can trust the robot to not eat cords and other objects. I run my X40s on a daily schedule, downstairs runs at midnight every night and has not needed any intervention in over 2 weeks and upstairs runs at 5pm and no intervention for close to 3 weeks.

Considering your house is mostly hard floors, the s1 pro is a good choice however it struggles if you have carpet. If you have a mix of carpet and hard floors, I recommend the Dreame X40/L40 as it has significantly better carpet performance and edge cleaning due to the extending side brush. While the S1 pro has very impressive mopping, running a spinning mop style robot on a schedule will keep your floors as clean but one large benefit of the roller mops design in the S1 pro is that it is less likely to trap debris and scratch your floors.

My Dreame x40 goes under the toe kicks and gets all the debris with no issue. I would think the L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra would also do the same.

I have two Dreame x40s. Probably one of the best robot vacuums from the last generation. The new generation is the Roborock Saros 10R and Dreame X50. As for the x40, I have two of them and they have probably the best object avoidance on the market while also have great cleaning performance. I run them both on a daily schedule and they have no issues cleaning my house without eating cords, cat toys and other random things that end up on the floor. The obstacle avoidance lets me run it daily without having to prep my house. If you have to prep your house, or can't run the robot on a schedule, it makes a robot vacuum a lot less useful. I basically don't have to think about the robot outside of refilling it's water and cleaning the filter. I also tried the QRevo slim but returned it since its obstacle avoidance wasn't as good. It cleaned well, but the Dreame cleaned just as well while having superior object avoidance so kept the Dreame. Since the new generation of robots just came out, I would wait a bit before buying but it looks like the Saros 10R might be one of the best picks right now. The Dreame x50 also looks good but I've heard some issues and bugs with the software but it does have better features like a self cleaning vacuum filter. Either way I would wait a bit for bugs to be ironed out and more reviews to come out.

Dreame X40. Has better vacuum performance than the Eufy s1 on hard floors and carpets. The eufy s1 has a slight edge in mopping but if you run your robot vacuum frequently, you won't notice a difference in your floor cleanliness between the two. Dreame also has a better app experience and actual smart home integration. At normal prices the X40 is far more expensive than the S1 which makes the S1 the better option, but with the X40 being $1000 during black Friday it's the better choice now.

Dreame x40, L40, Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is a sister brand of dreame and the p10 pro ultra is basically a Dreame x40 with slightly smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock, but it usually comes in significantly cheaper than the X40 when on sale. The x40 is probably the best robot vacuum on the market as it has the least compromises out of all the robot vacuums right now. Roborock has atrocious object avoidance so their robots will tend to eat cords, dog toys, socks and other common household objects which forces you to have to prep your house for the robot to run. Eufy has good mopping with their S1 pro but poor vacuum performance. Dreame/Mova have exceptional object avoidance combined with excellent cleaning on carpets and hard floors. Also they can use the Tri-cut brush with significantly cuts down on hair entanglement. I have two x40s right now, pretty happy with it even with some of the issues I've had with it like a really sensitive Cliff Sensor and not being able to spin the side brush on carpet (being resolved right now with a firmware update). No one currently makes a perfect robot vacuum but Dreame/Mova are really close to getting there. The x50 which should be released this year and might be the first "perfect" robot vacuum.

So this is easily one of the most recommended mid priced vacuum because of its perceived value and Eufy really did bring a lot to the table with this product. With Black Friday coming around, people are recommending this vacuum left and right and I wanted to throw my experience with it out into the public. I watched countless reviews from Jamie Andrews, Vacuum Wars and looked around on this subreddit and came to the conclusion that the Eufy X10 might be the best Value robot vacuum with all of its features and decided to purchase my first on on May 10th, 2024 and my second one on June 4th 2024. After 350 hours of cleaning, [127 hours](https://photos.app.goo.gl/iFHv6AbKHnguRaEe7) on my upstairs x10 and [230 hours](https://photos.app.goo.gl/J4325ia8yiUMxzNp9) on my downstairs x10, I can say that the **Eufy X10 performs very poorly** and you are better off spending a little extra on the offerings from Dreame and Roborock. I bought this vacuum because I have 2 cats and some heavy allergies. I previously had 2 Wyze Robot Vacuums and they worked great but they lacked an auto empty system, mopping and didn't have obstacle avoidance which prevented me from running it on a schedule. After the Eufy x10 came out, it had all the things that my Wyze was missing and at a competitive price, undercutting the Qrevo and slightly undercutting the Dreame L10s Ultra when I was shopping around. And it had the best object avoidance which mattered a lot to me so I can run it daily without babysitting it. Ill start with the good things since this is a short list: 1. Mops well, floors feel clean and have stayed clean. For the money this is a great mop and does a great job at keeping our floors residue/dirt free 2. Good obstacle avoidance, I can run the vacuum daily and it works reasonably well avoiding cables, socks and cat toys. It will still eat the occasional sock or cable but it works decently well. 3. Good base station with easy to clean docking tray. The one piece tray is easy to remove and clean. I wish it was self cleaning like some of Dreame's docks but for the price, it is still great. 4. Decent carpet vacuum performance. Our carpets generally feel very clean and the vacuum does a good job at picking up pet hair and debris from carpets. Hard floors is a different story though... 5. Auto empty dock works well and reliably empties the dust bin every time. The dock has had zero malfunctions/issues since ive had it, I put a bit of Shark VacMop cleaner solution in the dirty and clean water tanks to help with cleaning and keep the dirty water tank from gunking up. 6. Eufy support is responsive and responds to tickets promptly and genuinely tries to be helpful And now the negatives: 1. Horrible hard floor performance even on Max suction, 2x Passes and Deep clean pathing. Both of my Eufy X10s have had the same poor performance since day 1 1. Filter clogs easily due to poor dustbin design 2. Brush guard seal wears quickly causing poor seal with hard floors 2. Poor battery life due to having to run the vacuum on max suction, 2x passes and deep cleaning to get any decent performance out of it and long recharge times. 3. Bad pathing, robot will frequently drive in circles, get stuck, refuse to find the base station and clean in a unsystematic manner 4. Non-existent smart home/Home Assistant support **1: Poor Hard floor performance:** [Here is a video](https://photos.app.goo.gl/GpTTrdmmYHRcc8yd7) of it running on a smooth tile floor in Max suction mode, Deep clean pathing and 2x passes. It runs right over the cat litter and **doesn't pick up anything!** [Eufy X10s failing to pick up cat litter on smooth tile floor in max suction mode with a clean filter](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/vtbcyioiml2e1/player) Here are pictures of the clean filter and dustbin prior to sending it to clean that floor. [Eufy X10 dustbin and filter prior to cleaning cat litter on smooth tile](https://preview.redd.it/e5xz2wwvml2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de4cae589e82073b3a1aefb32b12b330630c2ff1) [Eufy X10 Filter prior to cleaning cat litter on smooth tile](https://preview.redd.it/5qihrvwvml2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02cb828046f349da97dc83ae5038977604e00fdd) For comparison, one of my Wyze robot vacuums now lives in my garage cleaning up saw dust, leaves, screws, concrete chunks, washers, road debris and other garage debris. Here is a [Video of the Wyze running in the garage](https://photos.app.goo.gl/nLLJD93Ft8RqdvGS8), compare that to [the video of my x10](https://photos.app.goo.gl/GpTTrdmmYHRcc8yd7) struggling to pick up basic cat litter on a smooth tile floor. [Wyze Robot Vacuum Cleaning metal washers, leaves and other garage debris on an abrasive concrete floor](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/096804e6nl2e1/player) I ran the Wyze 2 times in my garage to see what it could pick up. Here is the debris from the first pass and second pass: [Garage Wyze Robot Vacuum, First Pass](https://preview.redd.it/9c9hfepinl2e1.jpg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=723939bfb739bd0a9c1d2d8a7a405bdfad306bcb) [Garage Wyze Robot Vacuum, Second Pass](https://preview.redd.it/ik4iyfpinl2e1.jpg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d0bf5d5eff749cf817c714c94a4ae3dce0c6c2d) The Wyze could pick up screws, washers and even a ring that my girlfriend lost a few days ago while the Eufy X10 couldn't even pick up cat litter! Also keep in mind that Wyze advertises "2000pa" of suction pressure while Eufy advertises "8000pa". Clearly the pressure ratings mean nothing, what matters is how efficient the filter and brush guard work with the vacuum motor. My experience with the Eufy X10 closely matches what [Rtings.com experienced with the Eufy X10](https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/reviews/eufy/x10-pro-omni). It also matches the experience [Jamie Andrews had on hardfloors](https://youtu.be/ZvRaaol5LFA?si=qPYb846Jo9_K6-l7&t=221). I would like to hear how u/VacuumWars has found his unit has held up over the last few months, does he see similar performance? Edit: Another issue with the poor hard floor suction is that since the vacuum is not able to pick up small debris, there is a very high likelihood that that debris will be captured by the mop which will then rub that [abrasive debris into your floor and scratch them](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1gxe6h9/scratches_on_floor_from_eufy_x10/). All spinning mop vacuums are at risk of doing this, but the X10 is very susceptible to this since it fails to pick up small debris most of the time. **1.1: Poor dustbin/filter design** So one of the issues likely contributing to the poor hard floor performance is the bad design of the dustbin and filter. Here is what my downstairs (80% hard floor) x10 filter looked like 1 week after replacing it and running it daily: [Downstairs Eufy X10 13 Cleaning Hours after replacement](https://preview.redd.it/782cdr8pll2e1.jpg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53002d834f6d76490ff1a5c98480ef8498dd3ac4) Keep in mind I have been running both of my Eufy X10s daily for the past few months so my floors are relatively clean, I also clean the filter weekly and replace it monthly. Here is the upstairs (90% carpet) x10 filter: [Upstairs Eufy X10s Filter 7 CleaningHours after replacement on 90% Carpet floors](https://preview.redd.it/10h2w9dtnl2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=777b5bb6663fa8026affe997d3c15e436c65fed3) In a sense, its good that the filter is catching this dust as the vacuum is able to capture it, but the issue is that the mesh screen is doing nothing to keep the filter from clogging. For comparison, here is what my Garage Wyze filter looks like after 5 cleaning cycles, keep in mind this vacuum lives in a garage picking up a lot of nasty things and its an actual [HEPA filter](https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-robot-vacuum-consumable-hepa-filter): [Wyze HEPA filter after 5 garage vacuum sessions](https://preview.redd.it/e9dsseaynl2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5400855d3298cd1a2e414c2de1a52d7119370842) So why the large difference between the two? I think one reason is the mesh screen in the Eufy x10 is much larger allowing most particles through the bin and onto the filter while the Wyze has a much finer mesh and a HEPA rating, it also has a much larger dustbin than the Eufy x10. A possible solution for Eufy to implement is redesigning the bin so that when the Auto-empty cycle runs, have some air run backwards through the filter so that the dock can "vacuum" out the filter with each cycle. This would significantly extend the lifetime of the filter. **1.2: Poor quality brush guard** This is another issue that is likely contributing to the poor hard floor performance. The brush guard is a maintenance part according to Eufy and it has a rubber flap on it that aids with sealing the suction path to the floor: Here is how mine looked 1 week after replacing it: [Downstairs Eufy X10 Brush Guard 1 week after replacing it](https://preview.redd.it/2rk4phq4ll2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=446c85907ce1ea7854f85c0a034fe162b486600e) As you can see, its mangled up and tearing up. Prior to replacing i, that flap was completely gone. My Wyze robot vacuum also has a similar flap but its significantly more durable and has held up fine on the abrasive garage floor. Eufy lists the brush guard as a Consumable item replaced with standard maintenance and costs $13.99. I have a suspicion this is something they will not fix as they make money selling this part. For now I have used a piece of duct tape folded over itself sticking out exactly as far as the original part. Eufy claims this part should last 120hours, but mine degraded after 1-2 weeks which for me is \~20-30hours of runtime. My duct tape solution has been holding up fine and has helped the vacuum slightly with hard floor pickup. My Wyze brush guard has never been replaced and ive owned it for 2 years. It has zero sign of degradation and Wyze doesn't sell it as a consumable....wonder why... **2: Poor battery life** This is an issue also slightly related to the hard floor performance. The only way I can get decent performance out of my X10s is running them on Max suction mode, 2x Passes and Deep clean pathing. Without those settings, the vacuum will just push debris like rice around and not pick it up. This results in the battery draining like crazy. [Downstairs Area and Cleaning Time](https://preview.redd.it/vscnsy2all2e1.png?width=1344&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c25beb2e2a9dd41318cfd6834e5c7ef2691153b) My downstairs area is 473sqft according to the app and the app says it took 1hr 50mins to clean it in Max Suction, 2x Passes on hard floors, and Deep Cleaning Pathing. What it doesn't mention is that it started cleaning at 13:00 (1PM) and it cleaned for 1 hour and 15 mins. At which point its battery was depleted. **It then charged for 4 hours and resumed cleaning at 6pm!** It couldn't even do 500sqft in one charge! On top of that, the only carpeted rooms are the Living and Study room, even on "Max Suction" the eufy uses less suction on hard floors compared to the carpets, if the robot ran on "true" max suction on the hard floors, I doubt it could even do 100sqft without needing to charge. **3: Bad Pathing and Planning** This issue was worse when I first got the vacuum in late spring/early summer 2024 but it still persists. While the X10 is pretty good at avoiding most obstacles, when it gets stuck, its usually in the same place each cycle. My carpeted area in the living room is slightly sunken from the "main area" and I built a ramp for the robot to use to get down to the living room. My Wyze robot vacuum would use it flawlessly and it doesn't even have a camera. The Eufy x10 was pretty good about using the ramp when I first got it but it seems updates have regressed its behavior: [Video of Eufy X10 Getting stuck on ramp and repeating same action over and over again instead of changing strategy](https://photos.app.goo.gl/q5ECiQALp2bNPadw8). [Video of eufy X10 getting stuck in a corner for no reason and not backing up](https://photos.app.goo.gl/vMXagQazTBNR7Ueh6) [Video of Eufy X10 getting stuck on ramp and repeating same action over and over again instead of changing strategy](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/4hy5t47kpl2e1/player) [Eufy X10 getting stuck in a corner for no reason and not backing up](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/rgktto9rpl2e1/player) **4: Non-Existent Smart Home/Home Assistant Integration** There is zero Home Assistant support for the Eufy X10. Dreame, and Roborock both have integrations for Home Assistant and you can even install [Valetudo ](https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html)on some Dreames and Roborocks for full local control. Even my Wyze has a home assistant integration because Wyze has an API for developers. Eufy on the other hand does not have any smart home integration and from what it seems like, no API for developers for the X10 and newer vacuums. [There is this thread on Github](https://github.com/CodeFoodPixels/robovac/issues/68) where some people are trying to get the X10 working but its been up in the air since March 21st. I filed a ticket with Eufy asking for a home assistant integration and they said they appreciate the feedback and received this response on September 22nd 2024: >....we understand your request for better integration with Home Assistant and acknowledge the current limitations with Google Assistant. We are continuously working to improve our app's compatibility and will keep your suggestions in mind for future updates. Its been over 2 months since that and no updates still to enable any sort of Home Assistant support. This is a very crucial feature for me as I would use my smart switches to call for the vacuum to clean a certain room. For example, I would triple tap my kitchen light switch to request my Wyze vacuum to clean my kitchen. For a company as big as Eufy, releasing a smart robot vacuum in 2024 with zero smart home support is pitiful. **Conclusion** So its not looking good for the X10 in my opinion. My comparisons may not be 100% scientific like Vaccum Wars, Jaime Andrews and Rtings performs, but my findings do closely line up with what Jaime Andrews and Rtings have found with regards to Hard Floor cleaning performance. Its great when a robot vacuum can do all sorts of things like mopping floors, avoiding obstacles and auto emptying, but one thing it should definitely be able to do is, **vacuum**! The Eufy X10 falls very short in that aspect on Hard Floors and I wish I could return both of my units and get a Dreame L10S Ultra or Roborock Qrevo instead. I may start a warranty claim on both of my robots due to the poor performance, some people are saying their X10s have been working great, but in the many hours I have ran my X10s, they have not performed well. And while the rest of you are looking around at reviews on this subreddit and elsewhere, please keep in mind that this [subreddit is very frequently astroturfed ](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1g9gn00/yall_notice_that_half_the_posts_on_this_subreddit/)and there manufacturers are known for paying for reviews. Sources like Rtings, Vacuum Wars and Jaime Andrews are known for purchasing vacuums with their own money but almost all reviewers post affiliate links in their descriptions for the products they review, whether you think that affects how they might portray a product is up to your interpretation. TLDR: The Eufy X10 sucks (but actually it doesn't suck anything up on hard floors) Edit: Typos, Punctuation Edit 12/22/2024: I have completed a warranty return with Eufy. They took back both of my used Eufy X10s and partially refunded me for both vacuums. They refunded me 50% of my purchase price for my first X10 and 70% my purchase price of the second X10. This is understandable considering I purchased my robot vacuums in May/June. Overall their return process was very smooth and customer support was top notch. After seeing my videos of the robot failing to pickup cat litter, they quickly got me a shipping label to RMA the product. When I asked if I can just get refunded, they didn't hesitate to provide me a refund offer without resistance. Overall, top notch customer service and I will continue to keep Eufy in my mind for future robot vaccuums. I hope they are able to fix the design flaws of the X10 and provide a competitive product with flagship features at a low price with the X11 or whatever is next. Till then, I have purchased 2x Dreame X40s to replace my Eufy X10s, both perform significantly better but have some issues of their own which I will detail in my eventual review of the X40. But overall happy with the X40. [Cat Tax](https://preview.redd.it/xdr5ji6tkl2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f4a48afb795fa5af014890e1cd0d432cbe46057)

Skip Roborock if you want good obstacle avoidance. Their robots are mediocre at it compared to Dreame and the S1 pro. Get the Mova P10 pro ultra, it's basically a Dreame x40 with a smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the base station. It's obstacle avoidance is just as good and it's $679 on Amazon right now. I have two Dreame X40s, great vacuums, never get stuck on obstacles or eat cords/cat toys. Cleans my house well and does a good job getting embedded dust out of my carpets and debris off my hard floors. The Mova P10 pro ultra is basically going to be the same but at a much lower price (Mova is a sister/subbrand of Dreame) I had a QRevo slim and it was horrible at obstacle avoidance. Cleaned as well as the Dreame X40 but it would eat cords and socks and felt like the obstacle avoidance is useless. I bought the slim since it supposedly has the best obstacle avoidance of the Roborocks but it just isn't consistent or reliable to trust running it on a schedule. I want a robovac that I can run on a schedule without having to prep my home. The S1 pro is a good robot if you have hard floors only, but it's vacuum performance is bad compared to the Dreame and roborock. Most of the debris will be picked up by the spinning mop and end up in the mop filter and not the dust bin. It also lags bending on carpet performance versus Dreame and roborock and doesn't have an extending side brush.

S7 maxv is a $1000 robot while the l10S is a $400 robot. Compare the S7 maxv against the X30 or the X40 and you will find that the Dreame blows roborock out of the water, it's not even close. The QRevo slim is rated as having the best obstacle avoidance of all the roborocks and I purchased one because of that, in my real world testing on carpet and hard floors, it is significantly worse than the Dreame X40 and even my old Eufy x10. So maybe it's the best Roborock but that really isn't a high bar to pass.

Fair enough. In that case it looks like Dreame made a huge improvement with object avoidance with the introduction of their "X" series like the X30 and X40. Considering the QRevo slim is Roborock's best object avoidance offering, the S8 does do worse than it and by extension the S7 is last gen tech. Looking at all the comparisons, most rank the Slim above the S8 and the S7 and then the X40 is well beyond the Slim. It's a shame because roborock would be the best choice if their object avoidance actually was reliable and consistent.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Eufy s1 pro Why are you changing from the X40 it's also one of the best.

Yeah it's the best robot mop on the market right now but it struggles when it comes to vacuuming compared to the competition like the Dreame X40. Also the mopping ability of the s1 pro is a bit overrated as most reviews should it mopping up huge messes which most people aren't doing on a daily basis and running a Dreame X40 or roborock Qrevo on a schedule would keep your floors just as clean but give you better vacuum performance.

Yeah this doesn't really exist. Your best bet is to get a Mova P10 pro ultra or a Dreame x40. Mova is a sister company of Dreame and Dreame currently has the best object avoidance on carpet and hard floors. The Mova P10 pro ultra is equivalent to the Dreame L40 which has top notch object avoidance. You should be able to get a Mova P10 pro ultra for $600-800 on sale and an X40 for 800-1000 on sale.

With the QRevo slim or basically any roborock, you will feel like an idiot because you will be finding yourself babysitting your vacuum and pulling out cords that it's eaten from the brush rollers. Seriously, roborock needs to work on their object avoidance algorithm before I will ever recommend their products to anyone. They have everything else figured out, class leading cleaning performance, app and build quality, but their robots have the object avoidance of $300 vacuums. I currently have a QRevo Slim and a Dreame X40. The X40 is so far ahead in the object avoidance realm that it's not even a contest. Both clean about equally as well with a slight edge going to the QRevo Slim, but that slight advantage means nothing if it can't complete a full cleaning task without getting hung up on some obstacle. I have my Dreame X40 running at midnight every day and never have to worry about it getting stuck on something or caught on something because it's object avoidance works so well, even in the dark and on all surfaces. It stays clear of cat toys, cords, socks, paper towels and all sorts of random household junk. So even if the roborock is very so slightly better at cleaning, the fact that I can run the Dreame daily will keep my house cleaner. The Dreame also does a better job cleaning edges and corners due a better extending brush design and extension algorithm. For the money get the Dreame X40 if you have a mix of hard floors and carpets and get the eufy s1 pro if you have only hard floors.

I mean it's justified to be scared to try another one. Dreame needs to do better with quality control and customer support. Here is the number I've been contacting on Whatsapp: +86 133 9119 2686 The rep's name is Russel, he's the customer service rep for South Korea and Australia but hes been helping people from all regions. He's much better to work with than the regular dreame support. And yeah you can buy a certified refurbished one with a 2 year warranty through all state on eBay. I went this route with both of my x40s since the warranty period is longer and through a more accountable 3rd party.

Jaime, would you say that the QRevo Slim is close in obstacle avoidance performance to the Dreame X40? I have a Dreame X40 but I'm considering returning it due to the side brush not spinning on carpets and because it thinks my rubber anti-fatigue kitchen mats are a cliff so it gets stuck on the mats (something my cheaper robot vacuums with Cliff sensors never had issues with). I'm hoping the slim is close in object avoidance performance as the X40 is class leading.

So yeah the slim has okay object avoidance but not nearly to the level of Dreame. The Roborock Qrevo Slim basically refuses to avoid cords on carpet, even clearly visible and thick extension cords. It's a bit disappointing in the object avoidance but it is nice how well it can clean my kitchen and it doesn't get stuck on my black anti-fatigue mats unlike my X40. Seems like they both have similar cleaning performance with maybe the roborock being better with the double brush roller? It's going to be difficult to pick which one is going back. It is nice that the slim can get under some cabinets and side boards and that it can clean my kitchen well, but its object avoidance makes it hard to trust to run on a schedule. Also it's pathing efficiency seems not as good as the x40 as well as battery life. Meanwhile the X40 has practically flawless object avoidance but it's Cliff sensors are over sensitive and prevent my X40 from properly cleaning my kitchen with it getting up onto my anti-fatigue rubber mats and then getting stuck on them since it thinks the edges are a cliff. Also the lack of side brush on carpet is a bit annoying. I've brought these concerns up to Dreame support and a support engineer I got a hold of on whatsapp and they might be working on a fix but not going to hold my breath on that. They have had almost a year to implement the brush on carpet feature which the L40 for some reason has now but the X40 still doesn't have. Might just keep the QRevo slim and work around it's poor object avoidance. Have you gotten updates on your roborock vacuums to make object avoidance better?

Dreame excels at object avoidance. The only decent roborocks are the S8 MaxV and the Slim but they are significantly worse than Dreame and Eufy at object avoidance. My QRevo slim fails to see cords and basic obstacles on carpet and hard floors while my Dreame X40 has zero issues seeing every obstacle and rarely gets stuck or caught on things.

Get the Dreame X40 certified refurb. https://www.ebay.com/itm/356133310411 It's 879 right now on eBay through Dreame store. I have two of them and they are basically brand new and have a 2 year warranty versus a 1 year warranty when purchased brand new.. It is the best robot when it comes to obstacle avoidance. It has all the features you would want with extending side brush to clean edges and corners and good mopping and vacuum performance. I run mine daily on a schedule and they never get stuck and do a great job cleaning my carpets and hard floors. Each vacuum can clean each of my floors on max suction ~750sqft without having to stop and charge and each finishes in around 1-1.5 hours. I also have a Roborock QRevo slim that is just as good when it comes to cleaning other than corners but its obstacle avoidance is atrocious and it eats cords and cat toys and runs into things that the Dreame is great at avoiding. Most reviewers like Vacuum Wars tests obstacle avoidance only on hard floors which is the easiest surface for obstacle avoidance, on carpet most Roborocks just fall flat and eat everything. Nevertheless, I'm boxing up my QRevo slim right now and returning it as Roborock's obstacle avoidance just isn't good and it's side brush extension behavior was lacking with it rarely extending to clean corners and when it did extend, it doesn't do as good of a job as the dreame Right now it seems like Dreame has the least compromises when it comes to vacuum performance. They clean well, avoid obstacles well, mop well and have good app features Roborock main vacuum motor hardware and brush hardware works well but their side brush behavior and hardware aren't so good and their obstacle avoidance is far behind the competition. Eufy has good obstacle avoidance, and great mopping performance with the Eufy s1 but their vacuum pickup performance is lacking behind Dreame and roborock and their app is very lacking in features and smart home integration.

The eufy x10 is trash at actually vacuuming debris: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/aP3N1VO5Tt The only thing it deserves an award for is best object avoidance for the money. I would say the best would be the QRevo Slim for carpet/hardwood and Dreame X40 if you only have hard floors. The eufy s1 pro is overrated and has the same suction issues as the x10. It has the best mop, but how often are you actually mopping up giant messes every day with your robot vacuum. Running a reliable robot vacuum with a spinning mop system will do as good on a schedule. The eufy vacuums also lack lots of app and smart home integration features like setting the floor grain direction, setting the location of ramps the robot can use and other smart features that roborock and Dreame have in their apps that Eufy is lacking.

I disagree. My Dreame X40 reliably avoids cords and string cat toys. It's never gotten stuck in cords for me. It works significantly better at object avoidance than my QRevo Slim. Roborock is far behind competitors like Dreame and Eufy when it comes to object avoidance.

Lol all the shills down voting this comment. Roborock is trash at object avoidance. My QRevo slim constantly runs cords over and other obvious obstacles. Returning my Slim soon, keeping my X40s

His cleaning tests are good but his obstacle avoidance test really needs work. He only tests on hard floors which is the easiest floor to test on, carpet is much harder for most robots when it comes to object avoidance. If he tested on carpet, the Roborock products would end up rank much lower as their object avoidance algorithm is horrible even on their top object avoidance performer, the QRevo Slim. Even on hardfloors, I found the QRevo slim still was not as reliable and consistent at avoiding obstacles as my Dreame X40. Object avoidance really should be one of the most important things a vacuum robot can do as the usefulness of a robot is significantly reduced if you cannot trust it to run on a daily schedule and if you have to babysit it. He also doesn't really test how effective the extending side brushes work and in that realm roborock also is behind the competition as their algorithm for determining if the arm needs to extend or not only really work in perfect 90degree corners. Dreame on the other hand actually extends in any case that the robot thinks it cannot reach normally which results in much better edge and corner cleaning performance. Additionally, the side brush design on the new Roborocks is slightly angled which prevents full contact when extended leaving a large dead spot (I think the QRevo Curv is the only one without this defect). To be fair, this isn't something most reviewers really test at the moment, but it does make me suspicious why Vacuum wars rates roborock's products at the top of his ratings every time. I feel that Jaime Andrews is a much more reliable source of information as he properly tests object avoidance and cleaning performance along with generally avoiding sounding like an advertisement. There are lots of vacuum wars videos which just sound like him reading off the manufacturers press release and then not properly verifying their claims. Regardless, Vacuumwars is just another source to consider but I wouldn't consider him the best reviewer. JustADad seems like a good source for more real-world use reviews but his videos are a bit long and not really easy to watch unlike Jaime Andrews and Vacuum wars. Jaimie Andrews is an overall good source, he's active on this subreddit and I believe he runs the unofficial Roborock subreddit but even with him running that subreddit, his reviews are very impartial. Rtings has been putting out more reviews now and they just released their review for the Eufy s1 pro, QRevo Curv and soon the Dreame L40. If you are buying, purchase from a reputable retailer with a generous return policy. Maybe purchase two robots you think you are interested in and return the one that performs worse in your use case. That's what I did when I bought the Dreame X40 and QRevo Slim and returned the QRevo Slim to Amazon.

You don't have anything on the floor, not even cords, phone chargers, socks, towels or anything that a robot can eat? For me and most other people, having one of those objects on the floor is a common occurrence and not having to prep my house and pick up every little thing the robot could possibly get stuck on is a huge benefit. I can basically always trust my X40 to finish a midnight cleaning session in the dark and wake up to find it sitting in its dock and have clean floors in the morning. Hair wrap is another thing that is pretty important, but that's brings me back to why it's suspicious that Roborock scores at the top for Vacuumwars lists since the Dreame Tricut brush performs significantly better when it comes to hair wrap resistance than Roborock's offerings other than maybe the QRevo Curv with the divided brush. And just because I'm asking reviewers to focus on one aspect like obstacle avoidance, doesn't mean they have to miss out on details like hair wrap. Reviewers should cover all of these topics if they want to be the "best reviewer" so far the only person that does long term reviews is JustADad. If he could condense his format a little bit into shorter and more conscience reviews, it would make him an even better source.

Dreame x40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Dreame/Mova have the best object avoidance on the market currently along with having top notch cleaning performance. I run my X40s daily on a schedule and they never get stuck on cords or cat toys. The QRevo slim I also ordered to compare my X40 again would basically always eat a cord, sock or cat toy when running so I couldn't trust it to run on a schedule and returned it. Roborock in general has top notch cleaning performance but horrible object avoidance and I would not recommend roborock for that reason Eufy has pretty good object avoidance, especially in the S1 pro but the common issue with Eufy's products is that they underperform when it comes to vacuum performance. They fail to pick up debris on hard floors and carpets. And perform worse than Dreame/roborock.

Return both and get a Dreame L10S certified refurbished: [https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/\_i.html?store\_cat=48519196012&\_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211](https://www.ebay.com/str/dreameinnovation/Refurbished/_i.html?store_cat=48519196012&_trksid=p4429486.m3561.l161211) Dreame is running a sale right now and with the coupon code, the L10s is like $300 which is a steal. I have two certified refurbished X40s and they were practically brand new, no sign of previous use. Also comes with 2 year third party warranty so you don't have to deal with dreame's questionable warranty support team. Based on how much you get from returning the shark and roomba, you can get 2 L10s robots or maybe one x30/x40. The Dreame vacuums are far better for the money due to their advanced features like object avoidance and they have good vacuum performance. Roborock has good vacuum performance but severely lacks in the object avoidance realm. Eufy has good object avoidance but not so great vacuum performance. iRobot and Shark are in a tier below Dreame, Roborock and Eufy.

I have personal experience with the Eufy x10, Wyze robot vacuum, Roborock QRevo Slim and Dreame X40. Out of all the robots I've used, the one I will recommend is the Dreame X40 and by extension the Mova P10 pro ultra which is basically an X40 with a slightly smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop.pads at the station.

In my experience, the x10 is mediocre at vacuuming hard floors, okay at vacuuming carpets, decent at object avoidance for the money, decent at mopping (although the mop pads are very likely to capture abrasive debris and scratch your floors since the vacuum performance is so bad), good customer support. The review from Rtings closely matched my experience: https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/reviews/eufy/x10-pro-omni X40 > QRevo Slim > Eufy x10 > Wyze robot vacuum The Wyze, while far outperforming everyone in vacuum performance on hard floors, is last because it's a "dumb robot" with no obstacle avoidance, self emptying dock, mopping and other advanced features that the other three have. It is still a really good performer and lives in my garage picking up leaves, road debris, concrete chunks, screws and other nasty garage debris that the other vacuums likely couldn't pickup. Also has a sealed HEPA filter unlike the others. In your case, I think your best options are the Roborock QRevo, Dreame l10S, Mova E30. The roborock will be the best at vacuuming but will struggle in object avoidance. The l10S and Mova E30 are very similar machines, both will perform better than the x10 at vacuuming and mopping but be slightly worse at object avoidance but better than the QRevo at object avoidance. If you are willing to keep your home a "robot vacuum proof" environment, the QRevo should be the best choice in your price range.

Neither. 1) roborock has horrible obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet so they will eat cords, towels and socks so it's hard to run any of their vacuums on a schedule 2) the roborock s8 maxV ultra is a 2 year old design as this point and their sonic mopping system is outdated. It seems like they didn't want to cannibalize their QRevo line up and stacked on a silly side mop onto it. 3) the QRevo edge is good but if you are set on roborock, check out the QRevo slim as it has the best object avoidance out of all Roborocks but that isn't really a high bar to overcome as their robots have object avoidance that is comparable to a $400 robot. Personally since you have so much carpet, I would recommend the Dreame X40, L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra (sub brand of Dreame). All have excellent hardfloor and carpet performance while also having class leading object avoidance. I currently have qrevo slim that I'm testing and a Dreame x40 ultra. The x40 just a far better cleaning system due to the object avoidance since I can run it daily.

Eufys I listed are the best at hard floors since they have roller style mops. Spinning mops are good too just not as effective as rollers. Where Eufy struggles though is vacuum effectiveness. All these brands advertise some ridiculous suction pressure but it never actually reflects how effective they are and vacuuming debris. For your price range I think the eufys I recommended are out of your price range and I would not recommend the Eufy x10, I had two of them and their performance is mediocre, especially at vacuuming debris on hard floor. Roborock makes good quality products and have the best carpet/suction performance out of all the brands but their object avoidance is mediocre and the worst compared to Dreame and Eufy. Their object avoidance is alright on hard floors but mediocre on carpets and typically has issues with cables. Dreame/Mova (sister companies) have the best object avoidance in their higher end offerings (Dreame X40, L40, Mova P10 pro ultra, P50) but are slight worse at vacuum performance when compared to roborock. The mopping between the spinning mops Roborock and Dreame/Mova are about equal. But since Dreame/Mova object avoidance is much better, it's easy to set the robot on a daily schedule without having to prep your home and pick up everything off the floor. I run both of my Dreame x40s daily and they rarely if ever get stuck and basically never eat cables. For your price range I would recommend the Mova p10 pro ultra or Dreame L40 ultra. Both should come on sale for around $400-$600

The L40 and Mova p10 pro ultra are effectively identical. Same part numbers on the docks. Only difference being that the L40 can leave it's mop pads at the dock. The Dreame x50 is the best out of the ones you listed but it's probably out of your budget. The Roborock s8 pro ultra does not have a camera based obstacle avoidance system and is frankly old tech at this point, would not recommend it. The X40 ultra is possibly the best value out of the bunch it you can get it for $500-$700. Basically identical to the l40 and Mova P10 pro ultra but has longer battery life and slight difference obstacle avoidance sensors but still the l40 and X40 perform better than anything else for the money with regards to object avoidance. Since you have only hardfloors, I still think a roller mop style robot is probably best for you since spinning mop system tend to smear debris around while rollers like the Eufy s1 and E25/e28 always keep the mop clean. If you can get a Eufy e25 within your budget, I would get that, if not I would look at the Dreame l40 or Mova P10 pro ultra, which ever is cheaper.

Dreame X40/L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The P10 usually goes on sale for $679 and it's like 90% the same as the x40 which goes on sale for around $800-900. The p10 has a slightly smaller battery and is missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock. The X40/L40 and P10 are probably the best overall robot vacuums on the market right now with the best object avoidance, equivalent carpet and hard floor performance to Roborock and equivalent app features. These robots also have extending side brushes which do a great job getting into corners and areas where the robot can't normally reach. The tricut brush which you can purchase and install does a excellent job preventing hair wrap but I have found it is significantly less effective on hard floors. The included roller brush does a good job on carpet and hard floors. The excellent obstacle avoidance enables you to schedule your robot to run daily without having to prep your house, it just avoids cords, socks and other common obstacles significantly better than Roborock's most expensive offerings. No one makes a perfect robot vacuum right now, all have some compromises, for example the x40 side brush currently cannot spin on carpet (they are fixing it in a software update) and it's Cliff sensors are very sensitive so Dreame vacuums have more trouble with dark/black carpets or mats. Roborock makes vacuums with excellent cleaning performance but atrocious obstacle avoidance so they rarely can finish a cleaning run unless you prep your house. Eufy brings a lot of features to the table for the money but seriously struggles with vacuum pickup performance. If you wait for the middle of this year, there will be alot of impressive offerings like the Dreame x50, and Roborock Saros series and maybe even Eufy will fix their issues with the x10 and bring out a new flagship killer that actually has good vacuum performance.

If you are ordering on Amazon just buy both and return the one you like less. That's what I did when I was looking at the Dreame X40 and QRevo Slim. I ended up keeping the Dreame since their object avoidance is significantly ahead of roborock even though the QRevo slim is their best performance object avoidance robot. Also the edge cleaning was better on the Dreame and overall cleaning performance was about equal. The QRevo slim was slightly better on hard floors and Roborock is generally a little better on hard floors. For me the object avoidance was really important because I can run the robot daily without worrying about it get caught on something and I don't have to prep my house for it to run.

Have you tried changing the empty frequency? Also try running every day, the obstacle avoidance on the X40 is good enough that you can run it daily without having to prep your home. Once it gets through the accumulated hair in your carpets, it should pick up less and less debris on each run and have no issues emptying itself.

Get a Dreame or Mova for best obstacle avoidance. I've owned a Eufy x10, Dreame x40 and Roborock QRevo slim. Out of all of them I rate the Dreame x40 far ahead of the other two with the QRevo slim coming in 2nd and Eufy x10 last I currently have two x40s and their obstacle avoidance is nearly flawless. The robots rarely get stuck or eat cables which lets me run them both daily without having to prep my house or intervene. Roborock in general, really struggles with obstacle avoidance, especially on carpet. The QRevo slim I had for a few weeks before returning it would constantly eat cords and cat toys. Do not go with roborock if you value obstacle avoidance. For your case, I would recommend the Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is Dreame's sister company and the p10 pro ultra is identical to the Dreame L40 other than not being able to leave the mop pads at the base station. And both are very similar to the X40 other than having a slightly smaller battery and slightly different obstacle avoidance sensors while still being as good as obstacle avoidance. The advantage of the L40 and p10 pro ultra is that you are getting X40 level performance but usually around the $500-700 price point.

Never buy from the site of a robot vacuum manufacturer. Always buy from a third party like Amazon or eBay since they will hold Dreame accountable for faulty products and returns. If you buy from the manufacturer, they can just give you the run around. I have two certified refurbished x40s I bought off eBay. Both have been flawless and have probably the best obstacle avoidance out of the competition. Mopping is pretty good, helps that I can run my robots daily without having to prep my house due to the obstacle avoidance being exceptional.

Dreame L40 or Mova P10 pro ultra. The L40 should available on sale for around $400-500. The Mova P10 pro ultra is also around the same price and is identical to the L40 as it is made by Dreame's sister company. Get the L40 over the P10 pro ultra if they are the same price as the L40 gets software updates sooner. The L40 is one of the top performing robots for the money and has excellent hair tangle resistance since you can run the tricut brush. I have 2x Dreame x40s and they have the same brush system as the l40 and I have one running the tricut and one without it. Both have been excellent with resisting hair wrap with the tricut having zero hair tangled on it and the regular brush having a small amount on the ends. The best feature of the L40/X40/p10 pro ultra is that they have class leading object avoidance so you don't have to pick up your cat's toys or prep your house every time you want to run the robot meaning you can run it on a daily schedule which will keep your house cleaner. I run my X40s daily and they never get stuck on cables, cat toys and other random junk that ends up on the floor. If money is not a constraint and you have lots of carpet, try out the Saros 10r and Dreame X50. Both have some of the best carpet performance while also having good hair wrap resistance. The Saros 10r has slightly better cleaning performance than the x50 but the downside is that its obstacle avoidance is significantly worse than Dreame.

I've had an 2x x40s for the past 6 months and accumulated over 300 cleaning hours between the two. The L40 is probably the best value for money at $500. The Mova P10 pro ultra would be my default recommendation at that price point since it is made by Dreame's sister company but it lacks the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock even though the hardware is identical. The L40 is a great performer, basically as good as the X40 and one of the best features is probably the obstacle avoidance. In the 300 hours that I've run the robots, they have practically never gotten stuck on cords, cat toys or other common household obstacles, maybe 1-2% of the time. This means I can run the robot every night reliably and wake up to the robot sitting in its dock and have a clean floor to start the day. Vacuum performance is top notch and mopping is great, not had any hardware issues with mine since buying it. All the software issues are now worked out. Over all the app is good on Android, it's a little less responsive than Roborock's but still completely usable and has lots of features that are useful. I rarely have to use the app though since I have the robots running on a daily schedule which is setup through the app. Support sucks, all of the Chinese manufacturers suck with Eufy sucking the least when it comes to support and Roborock is probably after then with Dreame coming in third. Whatever you do, DO NOT BUY FROM DREAME'S WEBSITE. If you have any issues with the product, they will not let you return it and they have no third party to hold them accountable. Buy it from Costco or Amazon or whatever reputable third party vendor, that way you have a return policy and a third party mediating the transaction.

Ooof. Good luck. I have an X40 and a QRevo slim and I'm returning the slim since they both clean equally well but the Dreame has significantly better object avoidance and better side brush extension logic. The QRevo slim just eats cords and runs into everything.

Sticking with my X40 until more roller style robots come out. I want roller style mopping, exceptional obstacle avoidance, and exceptional vacuum performance. My x40 is overall great but the vacuum performance leaves a bit of debris on hard floors that my old wyze robot vacuum has no issues with it.

Dreame X40 Ultra with a water pump so I don't need to replace the water every day

I have had mine for a couple of months now, and coming from a Roborock S6 MaxV I have some negative observations - I expected better obstacle avoidance. It might not be as eager to eat cables as my S6, but on the other hand my x40 drops one or both of the cleaning pads if hitting some cable on the floor, making it stop and ask for help to put them back. - The S6 seems to have true night vision, x40 has just a light that try light up in front of the robot. It might be the lack of true night vision that makes it not recognize my cables, not sure. - A couple of times the x40 just stopped in the middle of the floor for no reason at all, complaining I need to remove obstacles. There were no obstacles. - Sometimes it just skip a room or two when I ask it to do a full apartment cleaning. Or just pretend do full cleaning but I can see in the app that it did just pass the room, maybe doing some small turns for show. - It is quite narrow behind my sofa and the wall, the S6 cleaned there without problems. I have widened the gap now and the x40 sometimes go in a few inches, then skip it. Sometimes maybe a little longer in, then turn around and leave. But when it got totally lost spending quite some time trying to find the dock, it happily went all the way behind the sofa without cleaning. For no good reason as it made it just longer away from the dock. - In Sweden they only sell the white model. The ramp part of the dock quickly gets some black smudge and on the white plastic and it makes the dock look nasty. - The x40 talks a lot. When it goes back to the dock I'm never sure if it means it goes back to clean the pads, recharge, or is truly done with the cleaning. It try tell you both in the app and with voice what it is doing, but Dreame could work a bit making it more clear what it means. - When it goes back to the dock and I want to tell it to do something else or change a setting, I'm blocked from doing that as the x40 is "busy". I do understand part of my problem is that I haven't learned how all features work. As an example I get very confused why I have to disable the genius mode when I want to do spot cleaning, maybe natural for someone that has read the manual carefully. I never ever felt my S6 would not find its way home and it only stopped and cried when it got stuck for real. Very predicable. So I do regret a little I did not buy a Roborock when upgrading. Still, I do like the hardware of the x40. I like the features and both the Robot and the dock feels solid. I just hope some software update will make it feel a bit more predictable.

My dreame x40 has the side brush error and goes back to Amazon. Edge has taken over and looking good so far .

I find that clean genius works really well (It cleans extra dirty rooms twice, etc), my only gripe with it is that it always mops, and I don't want to mop the floor everyday.

Nope, if you set it to custom cleaning, rather than clean genius then you can set vacuum only. I’ve now got it to do a deep “cleangenius” once a week, and vacuum every other day.

I've got a X40, an L10 Plus and the A1 mower, and they are all fantastic products. They work well, they're stable and they feel really well built.

my Dreame X40 randomly would start to mop the carpet

I ended up getting a refurbished Dream X40 Ultra. Hope it serves me well. Thanks everyone

I am an X40 owner. Mine stopped vacuuming after two months. Dreame seems to have quality issues as you can see a lot of similar posts here. No point in having good obstacle avoidance if it doesn’t vacuum…

I bought a dreame x40 ultra. It was a great lil robot. But my husband didn't like the way it sounded. So it went back. I ordered a narwhal freo z and we will see. I already know I will be modifying the suds container as it's pos you have to replace after it's used up. But I'll report back once it gets here.

I’ve successfully been using a Dreame X40 Ultra in a household pretty much exactly like you’re describing. I can highly recommend, no trouble so far whatsoever.

Really really good. With the AI Assist built in, the vacuum identifies obstacles, avoids them, and sends you a picture. My kids leave their shoes by the front door a lot of the time and it manages to navigate through without grabbing shoelaces. My advice is watch a bunch of videos on the Dreame X40 Ultra since they are the same robot at their core.

Just freed a refurbished Dreame x40 ultra from the cloud so it can run purely local. Picked it up from the official Dreame store on eBay. Would recommend.

Get a refurb dreame x40 ultra. They run around 600 on eBay direct from dreame depending on the condition. Object avoidance is excellent. I haven’t had issues with hair tangling but the optional tricut brush fixes that.

Not too sure if they sell direct on their site, but mine included a 2 year warranty through eBay and looked brand new. Seemed more like open box, but I did buy the more expensive refurb for about 650. Mopping is definitely above average and vaccuum wars ranks it really well. I’m super happy with it. The best option for mopping is probably a roller mop, but you won’t find that with everything else you’re after at the momebt

I've ordered the qrevo edge. Was holding out for the curv but given it's virtually the same with just a different looking dock decided to pull the trigger on the edge with the free H5 as part of the launch offer. The CES robots won't get in Australia till late this year I believe, given how long it took to get the edge/curv. I hear dreame support isn't very good. Other than that dreame maybe a good option - keep in mind the x40 ultra doesn't spin the side brush on carpet which makes it a no go if you have edge to edge carpets. I'm coming from a roborock s7+ and my experience with roborock has been great. Wanted that newest with spinning mops, fully automated dock and threshold climbing and so decided on edge! You may not need the threshold climbing or may not have edge to edge carpets and perhaps you want better obstacle avoidance - then go for dreame x40.

That is making things a bit complex. I was ready to buy the x40 or l40 as they are 150 less than the L40s Pro Ultra RRP now due to some promotion.

Pulled the trigger, bought a Dreame finally. Let's see how it performs when it arrives 😊. Cheers for sharing your insights.

The X40 Ultra because it's on promotion and cheaper than the L40s Pro but few quids more than the L40 Ultra.

We have a Dreame X40 Ultra, it sweeps and mops, heats the mop water, maps your house and actually follows a pattern instead of randomly bumping around. We have 3 dogs so we set it to vacuum and mop every night. 

dreame x40 ultra if they can fix their firmware is the best I've used out of the 7 I own and the only one I've never had to rescue. Others for whatever reason or another have needed help. To be fair considering the x40 is super expensive, my shark matrix plus 2 in 1 is best bang for buck and only needed help once in 4 months because it ate a dryer sheet. ​ I'm sure their may be others, but I can only speak on the ones I've owned and used.

I originally had issues with my X40 and since firmware 1543, it's amazing. Here are my stats (run times etc) as I own and review too many robot vacuums. These are just my Dreame ones though. L10s Gen2: 17021 Sqft --- 3449 minutes run time --- 317 cycles. No issues L20: 16934 Sqft ---- 3737 minutes run time --- 208 cycles. No issues. X40 (newer less runs): 1808 Sqft --- 359 minutes run time ---- 26 cycles

I agree with initial setup, it was very easy. After a few days of use, I feel its avoidance is overkill leaving too much area around items. Detecting items aren't obstacles (wall edges/baseboards). I have had to turn off collision avoidance mode as it's just too sensitive. I have only been on 4.3.9\_1392. The extend feature is randomly used. It has detected carpet area that is actually wood flooring. I would like to see it work like similar to other bots when it's set to vacuum&mop that it does both at the same time. The way mine is working right now, when it reaches carpet while mopping it backs away and does all the mopping, then does detected carpet edges then entire carpet. This causes it to miss areas that should be mopped next to the carpet. It does this whether using clean genius or custom. I am not set to do those tasks one before the other. It might be a setting I don't have correct but haven't been able to determine which one yet

I would say anything else than irobot will be a mayor upgrade. I switched now from a roborock S5 max to an Dreame x40 ultra and i am very pleased. One selling Point was that it can leave the mops at the base when he is vacuuming.

Just got mine and updated to the latest firmware as there were to many updated features to ignore. I’ve noticed some bugs where it has tried to mop carpets and fails to recognize entire rugs vacuuming only half. I’m not sure if this is a defect or bugs in the new firmware but I’ll be contacting support to see. Everything else though is amazing. The flexi arm and mop extension works constantly and works well. Another hidden feature I have discovered is the docks ability to fill its basin with water so you can scrub it then let it drain any debris into the dirty water tank.

So far yes the only issues I’ve experienced are surrounding carpet recognition. Obstacle avoidance and cleaning performance do not seem to be affected at all. I also have a Roborock S8 MaxV ultra and the X40 has not gotten stuck in the places that my Roborock did. I would say you’re safe to update since you do not have carpets or rugs.

Dreame x40 Ultra vs 2 German Shepards. Life changing. Haven’t needed the vacuum cleaner since we got it.

Brother, I had the same error with just 3 days left to return it with amazon. Support was slow as fuck too. They would response once per day to my email even if I replied instantly. They created a shipping label, but I said fuick that I'd rather return it to Amazon and buy this roborock vacuum instead of waiting around for the robot to get to them, they look at it for weeks, then send it back to me saying they didn't find a problem.

I’ve had mine for a few weeks now and I agree that I prefer the custom option over the genius mode. It works great and I’m fully up to date with firmware. However I am not seeing the arm for the brush or the mop pad extend to reach corners. Is this because I’m in custom mode I wonder? Or am I missing something?

You don’t appreciate how quiet other robo vacs are until you have a Roomba. I received my Roomba Combo 10 Max this week to tide me over while I wait for the two Matic robots that should begin to ship this year. I have a love hate with the Roomba, overall. The Dreame X40 Ultra I had was a beautiful machine but I wasn’t ready to commit just yet before the return period expired. What I’ve learned so far about the Roomba Combo 10 Max is that you are best off having it create a new map of the space and not retrieve a previously saved map from another, older Roomba. I was impressed by the accuracy of the map the Combo 10 Max created with no intervention required. I only needed to adjust a couple of the room dividers on the 2,500 square foot map. Carpets were also perfectly detected and added to the map. Name labels were also almost perfectly identified. Being in a house with 5 furry cats, a continued annoyance of the Combo 10 Max that was found on my previous Roomba j9+ is that the front recessed camera housing is the perfect design to trap cat fur, causing constant unknown object detection alerts during the photo review after a cleaning session. Other robo vac cameras aren’t as deeply recessed so this is a non issue. I would really love to see this issue resolved. The side spinning brush is as loud as it was on the j9+. Too bad iRobot didn’t use a quieter motor which would have really helped the overall noise level of the machine. The clean base needs a separate cleaning mechanism just to remove fur from the spinning brush. I didn’t realize the 10 Max had active wash pad drying and was a bonus surprise. I haven’t paid attention to how long the total drying session takes just yet or how good of a job it does. I’ve always liked the retractable design of the mop and believe it’s a cleaver feature that best avoids carpets. Let’s be honest, every single machine with bottom mounted raising mop pads still touch the carpet depending on the carpet thickness and angle of approach from hard surfaces. Only the Dreame with detachable mop pads and iRobot have this figured out from my experience. Overall, mopping set to Standard completely saturates the mop and does a great job of covering the floor with no streaks. I would, however, like the ability to identify the direction of the hardwood for mopping, similar to Dreame. This was a great feature that ensured a reduction of mopping marks when flooring is laid in the opposite direction of the mopping. I’ve always appreciated the iRobot app for its usability. While the Dreame app offers options beyond what I would ever need, the iRobot app has a great feature set that just works and makes sense for the North American user. I look forward to continuing to use the 10 Max for now. Only time will tell how long it will take for it to plow through the random undetected cat barf on the floor… the real reason I am ultimately holding out for Matic with its visual space/object recognition and ability to suction both wet and dry debris into a disposable bag.

I just bought the Dreame X40 Ultra and it cleans the edges and corners floorless.

It's pretty good actually. You can adjust the vacuum power but even on turbo you can still watch TV if you turn it up slightly

I just bought a Dreame X40 Ultra yesterday and wanted to share my experience. I have been trying to decide on a RoboVac for a couple of months and it was between the X40 and the Eufy S1 pro. I opted for the Dreame X40 Ultra and bought it yesterday and tested it out. Hopefully this can help out some others who might be sitting on the fence. Please note I have no experience with RoboVacs so I can only give my experience with the X40. To give some context my house is medium size and the cleaning floor space is approx 70m2 (755 square feet). My floors are all hardwood and tiles in bathroom and laundry. I have no rugs or carpet. Straight out of the box setting up the X40 was very simple. There was a quick start guide and everything was pretty straight forward as far as putting it all together, installing the app, connecting the device, connecting to network. This was all pretty seamless with QR code scanning and the app explaining everything as you progressed. It did ask me to update the firmware to latest but I opted to keep the installed firmware which is 4.3.9\_1392. Once everything was setup I let the Robot charge to 100% and then began to scan my home. I was very surprised how well it navigated and scanned my house. It done this in about 10 mins. I had placed the dock in the Laundry and I was concerned of a 15mm high threshold where the tiles step up from the floorboards. The robot had no issue going down or up this. Once the house was scanned I could fine tune the home in the app by merging/dividing rooms, setting no go zones, floor board orientation etc. I then carried out a vac then mop on the entire home using the clean genius mode. The first pass the X40 did a good job. It vacuumed reasonably well but did leave a few crumbs here and there but after I realised it was only vacuuming on standard (there are 3 levels above standard). It done a good job of navigating around furniture and avoiding obstacles. I did notice the first pass it vacuumed and mopped in a strange sequence. It would leave random sections and come back to it. It did not appear to be efficient by keeping to a square pattern. This seemed to resolved itself on the second pass. The Mopping done a great job and would go back to the dock and clean its pads after doing each room. The next day I done a deep clean with vacuum on turbo and using more water on the pads using custom clean. The robot worked a lot better then the first pass. It carried out the cleaning a lot more efficient and cleaned each room in a square pattern back and forth rather then random on the first pass. I am unsure if I will update the firmware as yet as I have heard that latest firmware has issues. Couple of Notes: - Custom clean is better then using clean genius mode - It would be good to be able to choose which orientation you want the X40 to clean per room - Do a thorough sweep of the house and look under beds. I had to pause the vac and unclog random things that got stuck in it from under beds. Overall I am extremely happy with the X40. The first pass was a bit questionable with the sequence but this improved substantial on the second pass. After 2 cleans my floors are spotless. The Battery life is great and was able to vac and mop the whole house with about 40% remaining. So far my thoughts is that the X40 does everything great. Excellent vac, good mopping, cleans edges/corners well, navigates/avoids obstacles well, easy to use app and overall I am extremely happy with the X40 and I feel that it was money well spent.

I just bought the dreame x40 ultra yesterday and it works great. I just literally posted a detail write up of the experience using it.

We have a Dreame X40 Ultra with the Tricut brush. 3 dogs, 2 cats. Working great with no issues so far.

Good stuff. Please test for threshold crossing ability. Those of us in older homes really need that. Dreame x40 Ultra jumps stuff well enough, I have door mats over the 3/4 to 1" thresholds and it did ok. Not great but ok. All my previous roomba's managed it, the door mats are a direct result of a roomba a few years ago. Dreame stopped picking up the mops so it went home and I bought a Ecovacs T30s Deebot AI, It has a very hard time with thresholds. It gives up quickly and does not map well. For example, first time out, it was unable to leave the kitchen. So it mapped the kitchen and a space outside the kitchen that it could see was called a room. But it was only able to see 30% of the actual room. Sent it to clean that room. It jumped the threshold and cleaned the entire room. It did not update the map as the dreame would each run. Sent out for a remap. Got the center room and failed to get the hallway that did not have a threshold to cross, got 20% of another room it could't get in and didn't place a wall where there was a wall. So that is going home in a week or so when the replacement gets here. So I'm waiting on a Roborock Qrevo Curve. We will see where that goes.

I'm on my 3d Premium Mop/Vac since December. I've run Roomba Vacs for years. Roomba is no longer the top dog. They did manage my high thresholds well when I set up door mats across the threshold to make a bridge. They vacuum ok. The self empty is good. Their vac strength and object avoidance is lacking. First premium was a Dreame x40 Ultra. Great machine if it could hold its mops. Worked great for about 4 weeks. It was able to jump thresholds without an issue, it updated the map each run and identified obstacles well. It never got stuck. Never sucked up a sock, pen or tissue. Then it stopped picking up it's mops when heading out to a mop only cycle. Sent it back. Second Pre was an Ecovac T30 Ai. It had a hard time with the thresholds. Did not make it over established ramps that the Roomba's (2 different) and the Dreame made without a problem. This resulted in a bad map. Once the room showed on a map, you could send it to that room and it would jump the threshold 2 out of 3 times. But it had only looked through the door and saw half the room. So it would either mop/vac half the room or get lost when it got to the section it had not mapped. It did not update the maps as it went. So it was not possible to get a 'good' map. It also does not seem to be multi-floor compatible. It went back. If I didn't have high thresholds it would have mapped well and I'd probably be super happy with it. Functionally it was good other than the threshold issue. 3rd and hopefully last is a RoboRock QRevo Curve, same bot as the Edge in a different base. It has been running well for the past couple weeks. Object avoidance is not as good as the Dreame. It has got stuck on a cord 2x and sucked up a small black cloth I use to clean my glasses. Both times stopping and waiting for me to help it. After helping you set it down and press play on the app. It locates and continues where it left off. It does seem to clear pet and human hair from it's brushes. I've run it for a few weeks in a house with a cat and a girl with long hair. I just looked at the brushes last night and they had zero hair in them. Moping could be better. I'm still working on that. I think I need to increase the wetness or wash frequency, it leaves swirls. All that said, I'm probably keeping this one. The gripes are minor and I like it's ability to raise itself over thresholds. It currently is cleaning a room the others could not get in and out of.

I want the Dreame x40 Ultra AI avoidance to be used in the Roborock Qrevo. Qrevo is a better robot but the Dreame never got stuck.

I have been using the Dreame X40 Ultra with the Tri Cut brush and it manages to gobble all my hip-length hair up without getting any tangles at all. There is minimal hair wrap around the very ends of the brush (the little knobs that attach to the body) but that comes off very easily and is barely a problem. The front wheel does seem to have a bunch of hair caught in its bearings though. I don't know if this will be a problem down the line. As for IoT concerns, I've flashed mine with Valetudo so I don't need to worry about privacy / my bot turning into a paperweight because the company goes out of business and shuts its servers down.

I have a Dreame X40 and bought a tri cut brush for it. It works pretty amazingly for my waist-length hair. The tri cut brush works with several other dreame models too I believe. You'll have to look it up.

Dreame's official store on ebay is selling X40 Ultra's refurbed for about $880. I was reluctant to spend this kind of money, but the reviews I found were universally really good across the internet. Not to mention, short of the X40 Master (which actually taps into a water line) it's the same robot/their top of the line. So I figured if I couldn't root it to Valetudo I'd just return it. They day it arrived I immediately attempted to root it (no less via Windows) and it honestly was pretty easy. Well easy for me/the type of people that play in this home automation space. Having rooted it, the amount of pictures this thing takes is significant. In any case, I gotta say I am genuinely impressed at how well its handled transitioning between carpet/floor and either lifting or detaching the magnetic mops. It isn't perfect (10/10)*.* But it is really good (9/10). I think what's worth emphasizing here, its not as though you will never do this again manually - but as an automated maintenance task it's been solid. Something else worth sharing that seems to be a footnote on what I assume to be all of these robots/certainly this one in particular - the bags it uses to empty are proprietary (although Amazon seems to have a healthy amount of compatible knockoffs) and it has it's own proprietary cleaning solution it mixes with the water reservoir.

I did use both and I noticed both being somewhat random.. I am sending it back for that reason and cuz it should run brush on carpets..newest update to make that happen seems to cause other problems? Kinda sad, but QC iffy on them.. don't know that any of them are fabulous yet? I do think the roller mop is better for mopping with onboard water.

Yes i did deep cleaning on carpets did pretty well for a sweeper..I used it every other day for almost 2 mos but I caught it mopping my carpet.. which may not have been a bad thing if the pads were clean LOL so I sent it back today.. I think your comment scared me that you've been through a couple of the same already

I have it on that setting and it still doesn't do it all the time

I did and it vacuums great and mops ok.. thin pads.. but also great app compared to almost similar freo z?

I've had good luck with roomba's for longevity.. had an 870 vacuum only, 10 yrs and i8+ for 7, vacuum only ( but can't vacuum my Persian rug but neither can most robot/mop ones. dreame x40 did good .. but I feel like they all are kind of hit or miss at this point

i had used Shark before i got Dreame. it was ok and did the job with two dogs. I would consider you save up $200 more and get the Dreame x40 ultra

Just got the Dreame X40 Ultra and wow—this thing is a beast! Setup was pretty easy, and it's already made a huge difference in how clean my floors stay. I’ve got two dogs that shed like crazy, so I’ve got it running every day to vacuum and set to mop twice a week—unless I’m off work, then I’ll run the mop myself. The suction power is next-level, and the mapping is super precise. The app was a little confusing at first, especially coming from a Shark robot (which was super simple but also super limited), but once I figured it out, it was totally worth it. For $800, it’s honestly a steal. Self-cleaning and drying mop, flexible settings (vacuum, mop, or both)—this thing just does it all. 100x better than my last one. Totally recommend it!

Based on your needs, here are the top recommended robot vacuums that provide excellent features without unnecessary extras. These vacuums are efficient, reliable, and suitable for busy lifestyles: **1.** [**Dreame X40 Ultra**](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CXDXKSXP/ref=nosim?tag=vwads5-20) The Dreame Bot X40 Ultra is a state-of-the-art robotic vacuum and mop designed to provide a thorough and efficient cleaning experience. It features a removable and liftable mop, powerful 12,000Pa suction, and advanced navigation and obstacle avoidance. It also includes auto emptying, auto mop pad washing, and hot water cleaning capabilities, although it is in a premium cost range. # 2. [Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra](https://www.amazon.com/roborock-S8-MaxV-Ultra-Self-Drying-dp-B0CQLPNB2X/dp/B0CQLPNB2X/ref=nosim?tag=vwads5-20) The Roborock S8 MaxV Ultra combines cutting-edge technology and user-friendly features, boasting 10,000 Pa suction power, dual-roller design to minimize hair tangles, and advanced VibraRise 3.0 Sonic Mopping System. It includes a smart dock for self-cleaning, water refilling, and detergent dispensing, and it features sophisticated obstacle avoidance. It does have a high price point and the power difference feels artificially imposed. # 3. [Ecovacs Deebot T30S](https://www.amazon.com/ECOVACS-T30S-ZeroTangle-Technology-Self-Emptying/dp/B0D1FLHMD4/ref=nosim?tag=vwads5-20) The Ecovacs Deebot T30S offers impressive 11,000Pa suction power, ZeroTangle technology, and TruEdge Adaptive Edge Mopping. Its all-in-one Omni station provides functionalities like hot-water mop washing, self-emptying, auto water refilling, and hot-air drying. It also features TrueDetect 3D 3.0 obstacle avoidance and TrueMapping 2.0 technology for efficient navigation. The handheld combo may seem extraneous to some. **4.** [**Eufy X10 Pro Omni**](https://www.amazon.com/eufy-Auto-Lift-Detection-Self-Emptying-Self-Refilling/dp/B0CPFBBHP4/ref=nosim?tag=vwads5-20) The Eufy X10 Pro Omni is a high-performance robot vacuum and mop designed for comprehensive home cleaning. It boasts an impressive 8,000 Pa suction power, dual mops with auto-lift and carpet detection, and MopMaster 2.0 technology for efficient stain removal. The all-in-one station handles auto mop washing, drying with heated air, self-emptying, and self-refilling. It uses advanced AI See smart cleaning for obstacle avoidance and iPath Laser Navigation for efficient cleaning routes. The app experience is less polished than others, and the front-mounted brushes are less effective on fine debris. # 5. [Eufy L60](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CDB831GV/ref=nosim?tag=vwads5-20) The Eufy Clean L60 Robot Vacuum features 5,000 Pa suction power, iPath Laser Navigation with Precision Mapping, and intelligent suction control through BoostIQ Technology. It supports customized cleaning options, including room selection, No-Go Zones, and Multi-Floor Mapping via a smartphone app. It is designed to overcome obstacles easily and is compatible with smart devices such as Amazon Echo. The battery life may seem inadequate. Also while the brushroll isn’t good at resisting tangles, the base has a detangling feature. You can find out more in-depth information about the individual products and our testing methods [here](https://vacuumwars.com/best-vacuum-cleaners/robot-vacuums/). We will be posting a video about our top robot vacuum picks for Summer 2024 on our [YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/@VacuumWars) tomorrow. Vacuum Wars provides an unbiased, independent evaluation for each product based on our proprietary vacuum testing methods.

Yup, if you don’t want to be disappointed buy a dreame x40 it’s probably cheaper. I would explain but I’ve explained it so much to roborock lovers that I’m tired of it

and btw I’m totally serious the x40 will blow you away. I am a long time owner of robovacs and I can’t save everyone this is the best on the market. Take that as you will.

I also forgot to mention that the x40 is priced the same and has an auto floor cleaner Injection. It’s the companies flagship and the master is a side project for roborock. You will not get the quality you are looking for it’s a 1000 dollar robot. Get the flagship

Yes and I agree with you. Except dreams doesn’t have 10 models at the same price point

The x40 ultra is a 1900 dollar robot on sale for 999$ right now. The master is always on sale. That should tell you enough about the product

Yes, but obstacle avoidance will be an immense hassle. Also dreame has an actually good floor cleaning solution that isn’t harmful to animals and cleans the floors better. Furthermore it has a 6400mah battery vs a 5400. Longer battery life and when the master craps the bed and starts to run into everything and everything you will be thankful you saw this comment. I have had 3 roborocks and always bought another because I thought they were good value. They don’t do what they say they do. Also the hair cutting thing doesn’t work on the master. X40 you can get a tricut brush that cuts hair and cleans better

Dreame x40 ultra and look no further

I’ll give you an explanation since you seem interested. Anything roborock will be subpar. Contrary to what these marketers will tell you. You can buy the x30 or x40 I think x40 is sold out. Or even l10s ultra for the same price and the tech is SOOOO much better. I will never go back to roborock. I had a q7 and I paid 400$ for it. I swore by roborock I bought 2 other robots trying to fill the void. I randomly bought a dreame on eBay for 799$ (x40 ultra) because it had a warranty. It cleans better avoids objects. Is smart. Bigger battery. Better pickup. Better mopping makes my house smell good I got a huge tank of solution and it dispenses on the mop pads. Roborock owners will tell u that the solution in the water of the revo is better. I can smell the difference between the mopping on dreams my house is beautiful and smells clean. Roborock never did that.

Ah not knowing that there’s a dreame x40 that can avoid obstacles is odd

And clean better

lol, it’s so funny that you probably have only bought roborock vacuums. Did you know that they are thing called the dreame x40 that can clean better than this and avoid things?

Exactly what I meant thank you for saying it for me. That’s why I own an.x40, and threw my revo in the trash. I was referring to roborocks obstacle avoidance

Dreame x40 . Roborock sucks sorry

X40 ultra it’s on sale for the same if not similar price and it’s the companies flagship so it comes with the bells and whistles of a real robot. If not that then the eufy s1 pro

That’s the experience. I recommended buying an x40 ultra from Dreame (basically same company, but longer time making robots) and finally being satisfied with your robot. This will be downvoted so whatever. My experience with the master is the same as yours

And yes the dreams deals with power cords incredibly well. The people saying no robot does this have never had one

It has the most tested software, more so than the l40. 6400mah battery, 4.0l water bin, tricut brush that increases pickup, quieter than most robots, better price than any other. Really good mopping, auto cleans mop pads every x sqft. Good obstacle avoidance. Good carpet performance. Eufy s1 pro is a close second if mopping is what you’re looking for. However if you are looking for a robot that will last you time without wanting another (happens to all of us) for me the dreame x40 ultra scratched that itch. Sorry if you disagree, but I’ve had 4 robovacs and I am a software engineer. This is the most amazing piece of tech I have ever seen.

Tricut brush dreame x40

I agree. But I will say, I’ve had 3 roborocks, eufy s1 pro (temporarily) and the x40 was the best for me. I guess that’s all we can really do. Now I’ve only ordered over eBay for the x40 the rest were Amazon (I got a refurbished x40). And I’ve had issues. I guess the solution to the overarching message is: make these cleaners better, instead of suction, quality, I think the biggest innovation is going to be the roller mop. But time will tell.

Roborock is trash at obstacle avoidance go with Dreame, have had a q revo master. Roborocks plan is to flood the market Dreame focuses on making their products better. Dreame x40 ultra has been the best purchase of my life. Got it on eBay refurbed for 699$ on black friday

You will see many MML websites and channels pushing roborock. This is because they release so much of the same crap with different names it’s a goldmine for them. Go with Dreame, I have had 3 roborocks all were immensely frustrating. And cannot avoid basic obstacles

X40. Period. Roborock is garbage at smarts and it shows. It will complete the task 10 mins faster but is 70% dumber so makes sense.

The [dreamed Ultra x40](https://amzn.to/42bhyQv) without a doubt. If not, anything from the line Dreame really make the job done. Take a look, try it, and enjoy the results of a house very well cleaned.

Do you have the tri-cut brush? Mine has it (X40 Ultra) works great for cutting up the long loose hair (mine) so it doesn’t get wrapped around the brush. I also clean/maintain my robot every week or two as I discovered a lot of gunky build up on the brush and on the robot under the brush. It was affecting how well it cleaned. It took me 2 hours to get it all cleaned. I was putting a cap of Dreame floor cleaner in the water tank in addition to what’s in the dock’s tank - big mistake. That, and me not knowing the build up was there, is what caused the gunk to build up. My dog (Standard Schnauzer) sheds a little but her hair mainly gets built up in the mop base. I now have the robot vacuum first, then go back and mop. I think that’s helping too. It runs 6 times a week. It does half the house 3 days a week and the other half another 3 days. Sometimes I just have it vacuum only. Also, clean the mop dock every week. Guide is in the app. Dreame is different than Roomba in that you have to set how often you want it to empty its bin. Mine empties after every room.

After years of owning many iRobot products, I've had it with so many problems, abismal costumer support and exhorbitant prices for parts and consumables. I recently replaced them with an X40 Ultra and couldn't be happier. It cleans much better, software and navigations is light years ahead and much quieter.

I got it and if the price is close I would easily get it over the L20. Right now it’s out of stock on US Amazon, but if I comes back in stock at a price anywhere near the L20 I would pick the Mova. Just make sure it’s the P10 PRO Ultra as it’s very different from the P10 Ultra. If the Mova came back in stock at the same price I bought mine, I would probably return my X40 and get another Mova.

No, that is the one thing it cannot do is drop the mop pads. The mop pads just lift but do not detach. I might have not addressed that but I believe somebody else did here.

From my experience. Roborock Q8 very good for the price, S7 Maxv little better than S8, both great, Dreame L10S Pro as great. The newer more expensive stuff is even little better like X40 Ultra, but it has the docks.. Electrolux i9.2 had suprisingly good obstacle avoidance, could even avoid small cables, but god did that robot suck in anything else.

I have x40 ultra. I have none of your issues. Bought 3 weeks ago. My complaints are with the app and that it isn’t intuitive to switch maps (I have three levels in a split level home). And stuff like that.

If it makes you feel better L40 and X40 no better

I am often surprised, and offended at how much difference there is in premium robots (which is what I tend to test, rather than budget or midrange). You should expect, if you pay that much, for a robot to work. This problem is much worse in lawnbots, but there is no condition under which I would purchase a Roomba or Eufy on purpose. Doesn't matter what model. I'm most impressed by Roborock, Dreame and Ecovacs. That said, each model is different. For instance, I thought the X40 was just fine. Didn't blow me out of the water. But I think the X50 is quite good, although it still has some navigation issues. I haven't tested the Monsga line, sorry.

Damn I really wish to have a full review from you on the X40, it's kind of my favorite (bought two, first on December, the second one today, and thank god no need of support just yet) and I always love hearing reviews that compare it to other robot vacuums, because in my eyes and in my experience - it's perfect, yet I hear so many complaints about it that I just keep on praying to never need to use the warranty... 

I really appreciate the thorough response man, truly. I hope you never need customer service 💪🏽 and it seems to be a global thing with Dreame, as the complaints go from country to country as I hear them... I just really hope to never need them. And tbh, in my country they didn't bring the Saros 10R, only the 10, so I wasn't so keen in getting it with the vibrating moppad.. Also the retractable Lidar that has expiry times-of-use threw me off a little.. So I ended up considering either another X40 or Ecovacs x8 for the roller-mop, but ecovacs' last release here got destroyed in reviews, and so I just decided to go with what I know (and love, for now lol) 

Corners have been pretty good for me, but they’re doing frequent firmware updates so it’s hard to say how it’ll end up when they release the next big update scheduled for July 10th (Eufy told me this directly). I’m currently on a beta version which lets it get a bit closer than the initial firmware did and it’s been getting very close to edges and right up into the corners. I think the X40 would still beat it for corner cleanup though since it has a brush that’s purpose built for that. Do you mostly have hard floors though? If so I’d still recommend the S1 over the X40 and many people in the S1 discord server have mentioned they returned their X40’s because they didn’t find it to clean any better than the S1. Two people even mentioned that the ozone generation in the S1 has proven more effective for cleaning/sanitizing than the X40’s hot water washing. It’s completely anecdotal, but take that for what you will.

I just bought the X40, and if what you say is true, your robot should last me at least 10 years, given how well you make your products… Pain point: pet hair getting stuck on wheels and brush, despite tricut. Other than that i am pretty happy so far! P.s. I live in EU, so a nice sale would he nice… why do always US get the best sales?? You could give us some love for having governments that dont hate on China!

The really good for maintaining a clean. I have dreame x40 and it's really good. It vacuums and mops but once every two weeks or so I do a manual vacuum and mop.

Can confirm. I just got the x40. The camera is pretty good. Plan on using it to check on my cats when traveling. It also has a button in the app for finding my pet, where it will automatically search for them for you.

When it does it's daily cleaning, it will also save pictures of your pets whenever it sees them. You can click on the pet icons on the cleaning map to see the pics it took of them.

Dreame X40 Master. I had the switchbot S10 and its light years better.

My x40 is less than a week and laser has failed. Cleaned it and took it apart to clean too and no joy. Going to send back via Amazon. Really disappointed as it was good for the 3 days it worked.

I’m going to attempt to get a replacement. But Amazon love a refund. It’s a great device. Just gutted it’s failing.

I have literally the exact opposite experience. X40 has been legendary.

Dreame x40 actually detects the poop and sends you a picture of it and avoids it.

I haven’t. Was considering it but went with the Dreame x40. I’ve had too many wifi issues with other Dyson products (fans/purifiers). Admittedly most are older but it made me anxious enough to go with another brand.

I have a Dreame X40 robot and a Hoover CleanSlate and it wasn’t enough.

Dreame x40 if you want a great vacuum and good mop. S1 Pro is meh at vacuuming

I haven’t compared to Curv but the Saros is very quiet imo. Even with Carpet Boost on I think it’s quieter than the Dreame X40 I have.

Compared to my Dreame X40, cleaning sequence is in map settings. I don’t wanna do routines that end at the dock after each room, not efficient

X40 goes on sale to 999, and has been great at avoiding cables and other objects

Dreame is for the lazy who are not willing to tidy their mess, lol. I guess you have been reading too much rant from WideCrab. Seriously, OA works well on most larger objects. It sucks on cords and small parts. It is dangerous to trust it if you have a risk for pet accidents. I even bought another old Q7Max without any OA after I already had a Qrevo MaxV. Guess why -- because I don't need the OA. The bumper does the job, better than some might imagine.

Compra la X40, estoy seguro que la X50 no tiene mucho que ofrecer, yo estoy encantado con la X40 que la use hoy y me llego ayer, mis espectativas no fueron defraudadas, OJO ninguna robot limpiadora va a dejar pulcro un lugar que este muy sucio.

I just got the x40 2 days ago and it’s been pretty good for me but we’ll see if it continues coming months…

Coming from Roborock, which in my view has awful customer service, to Dreame, I was really concerned about an even worse experience based on forum feedback from owners. Maybe I'll regret it in the future, but so far my X40 Master has been out of sight, and out of mind. Everything stays clean (two dogs and a dog door, hardwood flooring), and the dock has an unlimited supply of water through our plumbing. The X50 Master doesn't seem to be available in North America yet, but I can't say enough good things about the X40 Master. I bought it and a Roborock S8 Maxv Ultra with the drainage:refill dock, and returned the Roborock after trying both. At CES 2025, Dreame did show off a fancy dock that can store and swap multiple sets of mop pads. That's really the only thing I'd love more at this point (I could go months and months without ever fiddling with the robot).

I got my Saros 10R yesterday around this time (purchased it myself). I'm upgrading from a S7 Max V. Had a Neato D7 before that and a Robock S5 Max and very briefly a Dreame X40 that broke. [https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png](https://i.imgur.com/NwJO3iC.png) **Few things before I go into it:** I live in a relatively small home. My first floor is mostly hardwood/tile with a 15x20' area rug in the living room. My second floor is all deep carpet. I have a long haired German Shepherd and a wife that both shed a fair amount of longish hair. I keep my rooms mostly tity but my computer does have a fair amount of cables/wires that are wrapped together, but run along the floor. My wife also has a Korg keyboard that has a foot pedal and she often leaves it on the ground. **Super Pros:** * General hardwood/tile mopping significantly better than the S7 Max V. My wife and I both noticed it immediately after the first clean I ran. It covered more areas, got closer to objects (the pivoting side mop helps a lot with that) it reached under my cabinets and it was able to get under two pieces of furniture the S7Max couldn't fit under. * Low Pile Rug performance is much better. I do wish I could set it to 2x crisscross every time on the area rugs.. but the mixed pattern will have to do. * It's way, way, way quieter. General runs are quieter. Max+ mode (or w/e its called) is way quieter. Mopping is now nearly silent. The transfer from robot to base is much quieter than the S7 MaxV. * The Anti-Tangle brush is actually Anti-Tangle. All my previous vacuums would get hair tangled in a single run - I'd clean them at least once a week (neato way more) to get all the hair out. After 24 hours, I see 0 hair stuck. Not one. * The feature set is more rich over the S7 Max. This one is a think a bit annoying because I feel like a some of these features the S7 could do, its just software locked.. but having the ability to do pet area deep cleaning, mixed pattern cleaning, the rug options + all the leave behind the mops, extensions, re-mopping, etc is all really cool. * The detergent dispenser is a nice addition over the S7 MaxV. * The ability to clean out the tray and the self cleaning stuff is super nice. **Kind of Pros but maybe a little not:** * Hair Pickup on carpet is better than the S7 MaxV but still worse than the Neato D7. * I confirmed this by running the S7 Max V first (with rubber brush), on my upstairs carpeted room - that I purposely haven't vacuumed in a week. S7 Max V barely got anything and had some wrapped around the edges - as it does. The Saros 10R filled about a quarter of it's bin - but no tangles! The Neato filled the entire, much larger, bin, the chute partially jammed with hair and the bristle brush was wrapped completely. Neato is still king of deep carpet cleanup (if you ignore how jammed full of hair it gets) * I think the takeaway here is that the Saros 10R is big improvement but I find Roborock still lacks with hair pickup on deep carpets - even area rugs, to an extent.. over much older vacuums. * Pivoting Side Brush is good.. sometimes? When it works, it obviously works and pulls stuff out of corners, I don't find it working that often though - especially under the cabinets/corner cabinets. It comes outsometimes for a bit then goes away. (this is with the AI Lab Flexi arm thing enabled). * Navigation seems similar/better. In terms of actually going around and finding how to get there, it seems quicker (i haven't timed it) and it does less random movements like my S7 Max V did both during and after its cleaned. **Cons:** * The obstacle avoidance seems worse, maybe even way worse? I know it's only been 24 hours and I know the system the 10R specifically uses is new, but so far it's been pretty bad at detecting things, especially cables. * Yesterday when I was messing around with it, it ran into one of my dogs stuffed toys and got stuck on it. It also decided to "jump" little tray tables I have under my sofa, and got stuck on a wire behind them. (I set this as a no-go from now on). * This morning was the first time I ran it on a schedule - I do it early before I wake up, but I woke up to it stuck on the cable for my Wife's keyboard, the mop got wrapped in the cable and it pulled it off. * Just an hour or so ago today, when I was testing the carpet pickup on the second floor, it ran into a sock under my nightstand and got jammed. * Kind of disappointing considering my S7 Max V maybe got stuck twice, in the entirety of 2 years I owned it. I'm chalking this up to a combination of bad luck, weirdness because it's trying to hop stuff the others wouldn't attempt, and relatively new firmware on a new type of obstacle avoidance system. I hope it will improve. * All the Bins are too damn small. * My dog blows his coat twice per year. When that happens my S7 Max V can sometimes get nearly filled with dog hair. I've had to split rooms up into subrooms in order to force it to go back to the dock more often to empty. In this case - the Saros 10R not only has a smaller bin, but it's better at cleaning hair. I can see this being a problem. * It seems to use more water than my S7 MaxV while mopping, yet the clean and dirty bin are both smaller. Which means more refills. * The gloss on the front of the dock is a fingerprint magnet. I hate it. **Conclusion:** Overall, again after only 24 hours, I think its' a pretty nice upgrade over the S7 MaxV and I plan on keeping it. I'm hoping software improves the obstacle avoidance, which is my biggest concern at the moment. I also hope Roborock continues to improve it's suction/hair pickup performance - i really hope youtubers also create better tests for this. A lot of these guys say these newer robots are "perfect" at it and it's just not been my experience at all. They are getting better - in fact tangles seem solved, which is great, but they also leave a ton of hair behind.. even when compared to older robot vacuums but especially compared to a Dyson or something. **If anyone has any questions or wants anything specifically answered let me know ill do my best to respond.**

Yeah the X40 was pretty sick for the 5 or so days I owned it. Then I ran into a docking error problem and Dreame's support was so bad that I didn't even bother getting a new one, just wanted a refund.

While it worked I really enjoyed the X40. My biggest concern with these bots has been the hair pickup/tanglement issues. Ever since I got my Long Haired Shepherd - its been a battle to keep up with his hair. The Neato by far has the best PICKUP - but it was TERRIBLE with tanglement. The Brush would literally be covered in 2-3 days and need to be cleaned.. it would often jam after a week if I didn't clean it out. It also had no mopping capability, no obstacle avoidance, was loud as hell, the app sucked, etc. The S5 Max with the Bristle brush was decent at pickup - but it too would tangle and become a mess. That + the smaller bin would constantly need to be cleaned out. Mopping was okay but needing to manage it since no auto-dock wasn't fun. It was a great bot but I think the docking station stuff made the newer ones a massive step up in convenience. I still have my S5 Max though. The S7 MaxV had the worst hair pickup on carpets, with the stock rubber brush, of all the bots I ever owned. Tangles were minimal but it didn't do well taking hair off the carpets (it did great on the hardwood/tile though). Swapping out the rubber to the bristle brush improved the pickup but increased the tangle problem - it also created a problem with auto-empty for me a few times. Other then that i thought it was a great bot. The obstacle avoidance was great for my dog's toys. The mopping was good enough for the mud he would track in and stuff. It definitely was little loud but acceptable. Then I got the X40 with the Tricut brush. It had all the benefits of the bristle brush - performed similar to the S7 MaxV and the non-tanglement of the rubber brush. I'd still get tangles, but they were very very minimal - it did way better actually getting the hair off the carpet. I've read the X40 was better at obstacle avoidance but I really never had a problem with it on my S7 MaxV, so for me it was similar. Mopping and the cleaning of the mop pads was much better than the S7 MaxV. It was also quieter. I honestly would have kept the X40, as I loved it while it worked - but i ran into that docking problem and their support made me jump through massive hoops, spanning nearly 3 weeks, in order to get, what was initially just a replacement... but it was such a nightmare I ended up just telling them I wanted a refund, I didn't want the replacement anymore. And to be clear - it's entirely possible that Roborock's support is equally as bad, but I just haven't experienced that yet. And as it currently stands even the S5 Max still runs great 5 years later, despite having something like 1500 hours on it.

I've had the Dreame X40 for 30 days tomorrow and I'm returning it. For the first week it was good but by week 3 it was squeaking, getting stuck on ramps, stopped doing edges and I had to replace roller twice because object detection was lacking and roller tore. Mopping capabilities were always iffy but I decided I could live with having to manually mop once a month to avoid return hassle. But once it stopped sweeping and mopping anywhere it transitioned from rug to floor, I was done. It would leave 2 ft circumference around every rug unswept which was horrible near dog doors and the rug in front of them (main reason I got vacuum!) So now I am once again in the market for a vacuum mop. I have 3 pets and all hard flooring throughout house outside of a few rugs in front of doggy doors. So it doesn't need to be great on carpet or even halfway decent. Looking for the best robot vacuum for sweeping and mopping and can handle large amounts of pet hair.

Mine was great 1st week, wasn't a fan of mopping but overall, great, week 2 in started squeeking, annoying but doable and each week it got worse at navigation, essentially only doing half rooms...I think from other reviews and how great it was in the beginning, I just got one with glitches. Word of advice...Do not throw away box or any packaging, even Amazon is particular about how they will accept this back, they need to review product before issuing refund, not just giving refund as soon as it's in UPS hands, which is Amazon standard...needs to essentially look brand new, all pieces there.

I think you misunderstood...all the above issues I was fine with...annoying for a 1k machine but willing to deal with it. But was not willing to deal with it stopping sweeping the entire floor. It was glitching out around edges. Since it did it in the beginning, this problem was not supposed to happen, and I contacted manufacturers, and they didn't have a fix, and I saw on reddit that this glitch was due to a recent update. Since I was getting a different one, all I asked was the best one for hard flooring and pets. I don't think that is asking too much.

I also recommend Just A Dad. The YouTube affiliate-link sellers are all shilling the Roborock Saros at the moment. However, his testing shows that while it cleans quite well, the object avoidance really hasn't gotten much better. It runs over a cable and a fairly big Lego construction like they aren't there. My mid-range Dreame would have chomped the cable but would have avoided Lego 1/3 that size all day long. I think he updated the comments to say Roborock had reached out to him to explain the cable and his carpet was the wrong colour or something. The Dreame X50 does well with obstacle avoidance but looks lost otherwise trying to find its way around. Personally, I'd get the Dreame X40 if you don't need the threshold jumping as it had all the bugs ironed out and was pretty much perfect by all accounts.

Thanks for reviewing it! I was curious of this X50... I had the X40 for some weeks and returned it due to their poor support and subpar performance. I'm sure Dreame isn't honest with the kPa's and other figures. A Q8 performs much better being 1/3 of the price. I might go for a Roborock S9 when it gets released.

I've got a Dreame X40 specifically because it's supported by Valetudo. (Local only cloud replacement so you can use most of the features of the robot without needing any cloud services.

I bought the Dreame X50 Pro from China and have been using it. This is not sponsored at all, I bought it completely with my own money. https://preview.redd.it/ftsik64hz9be1.jpg?width=1780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03a47133d3ce92cbecd6d72d8d95b5226b3022f3   So, I wanted to give my overall thoughts and will try to give a somewhat detailed review. There was no lab testing, but I did try to do a couple of ‘lab like’ tests. This was done in a 4-bedroom 1 story house with no pets or dogs. I also got the version with the clean water and dirty water tubs (the standard) because the version that connects to the water pipes wouldn't suit my house layout at all. I’ve never owned a Dreame before and my last Roborock was many years ago.   Some new features:   \-Double brush design \-Dustbin compression for Pets (If there is pet hair in the house, it will try to limit how much space is used in the dustbin via compression). \-Retracting Lidar to access low areas \-Electrolyzed water (Pro/Ultra versions only) - This is a good feature if you live in a country with 'hard' water as this can affect longevity of these devices. \- Self-cleaning Filter \- Self-cleaning tray \- Ability to lift at high heights (I didn’t test this as I have no value in it and majority of you probably don’t either).     ***Vacuum design: 8.5/10*** The vacuum looks very slick and modern. The retracting lidar with the different coloured LED is also a very nice touch, so I will give them props for this design. I will talk about functionality later on. https://preview.redd.it/2b1bjaij1abe1.jpg?width=2905&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a6fef8b9bedab0a0e5beb6034e89262af94ad0b ***Dock Design: 8.5/10*** It feels very premium and looks like the X40 dock design. One of the main differences is the full removal tray is no more! And you only have a small filter tray that is removal. I’m sure some will be disappointed by this change but one of the features of the X50 is that it cleans its own tray and so far, I’ve found that to be true, after multiple cleans, the tray still looks spotless. However, it has now been a very similar design for a few editions of the top model for the dock, so I feel it is time for Dreame to take a bit of a risk and change it up for the x60 in the future. That is why I'm giving it an 8.5/10 because the dock looks good, but it’s the same design. In terms of functionality, I’d give it a 10/10. It did a good job cleaning the mops for example, so I tested it with some coffee powder and here are the **before:** https://preview.redd.it/jrf6fbs3babe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95ee636660f702b6e1c5600ca5b04e0ce4f2e5e6 **after** https://preview.redd.it/gyjneuh5babe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78234d597d5aaf1274696e5b06145fe8caf18856 Overall, pretty good job.   ***Brush design/anti-tangle: 10/10***   https://preview.redd.it/y6h3q61v2abe1.jpg?width=2825&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3961f0bb9708417ea6aabdaa0af8661dfd208c3b I live in a family full of females with very long hair, after multiple passes of the house, I’ve seen 0 hair getting caught in the brushes, so 10/10 for that one.   ***Self-cleaning filter: 6/10***   This is one of the features that was mentioned for the X50, and it sounds great in theory. I tested it after cleaning up instant coffee powder, it did remove most of it: **before:** https://preview.redd.it/72or0croz9be1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6f82d6b34d5a6b665c8ad76aa9cb17a41ad7d58 **after:** https://preview.redd.it/oy07m2hsz9be1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29be14b13752d86fc76a9b526e15dff2a63548b9 I wouldn’t say the filter has been thoroughly cleaned though and will likely require manual cleaning very soon. I also tried it on yellow sand and once again, it did clean the filter somewhat: I'd say the results are worse here. **before:** https://preview.redd.it/j4e7tn4yz9be1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84e0bae076c50905d704b122088a1a7296ee46c3 **after:** https://preview.redd.it/accwedq00abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49a7d9658cfd60b806f89189ca2e3e1e75e5a3df but it wasn’t anything too significant. So, that’s why I gave it a 6/10 as it is a neat idea and has potential, but right now it is okay and slightly delays manual cleaning of the filter.   ***Self-cleaning tray: 10/10***   https://preview.redd.it/izcundz50abe1.jpg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5ef0e1209a1f901b9de85a7b1b9eef8205315c0 The new design is very good, I did not have to clean it at all during its use and I likely will never have to clean it again. So, good job to Dreame on this one as it is definitely an amazing feature. There is a small filter tray in the middle that picks up debris and it just has to be emptied every so often.     ***Retracting lidar: 6.5/10***   Design wise, it is a slick design, and the different LED colours are a neat touch. You have different settings for how cautious you want it to be in this feature. https://preview.redd.it/o68jellv8abe1.jpg?width=1115&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f56c0065e2a5e01cec04d7c565913513891ba380 I tested it on a couch that has a high enough area underneath that it should be able to clean under it. The results were it using the retracting lidar in the beginning of the couch https://preview.redd.it/i1ih74z73abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=838598a422fb1210d9b8f8a7e95d1fca665f5411 However completely refusing to go any further despite there clearly being enough room + setting it on the least cautious option. That’s why I’m giving it a 6.5/10, right now it is way too overly cautious and I hope Dreame can improve this via firmware updates.   ***Battery life: 5/10***   This is the most major disappointing aspect of the vacuum. Essentially 1% = 1 minute of use (on Clean Genius). You have around 90-100 minutes of use with a full battery, which is significantly less than the industry standard. I wouldn't say the vacuum is any faster than other brands in cleaning the house, so I can't justify it by saying it is quicker at navigating through the house, in fact it is sometimes slower in certain environments (Which I will talk about later). This is probably the biggest glaring issue with the vacuum and should be noted. However, if you plan to go to work at 8-9, let it start vacuuming and come back at 5-6 then you should be okay. For example, I started it at 8:45am and it finished at 4:45pm. The whole house area cleaned was around 121m\^2 and this was on Clean Genius (no deep cleaning).   ***Carpet performance: 8/10***   So, in terms of carpet performance, it does pick up most things on the ground but, it does miss a few things including the sides of the room (Just unfortune limitation of most Robot Vacuums due to shape). I’m seeing multiple small pieces that it should pick up on the carpet + tiles and the sides are just full of small pieces. I feel this is because the FlexiArm is not used well in these situations when it comes to sides of rooms with carpet. I even set it (The FlexiArm) to the highest frequency via the app but I still had the small issue. Another thing I ran into was if there was 'stubborn' dust that is really stuck onto the carpet, it fails to really clean the majority of it. I thought the 20k kPa suction power would be enough, but no it isn't anywhere near enough. Also, it does this thing where let's say it vacuums just the carpet for 30 minutes, it will go back to "wash the mops" even though the mops were not used at all. I also notice the mops are dragging along the carpet to the point it somewhat distorts the shape of the mops, but luckily the carpet does not become even a little 'wet' at all due to this. One example of this is that I did one test where it was on carpet with Coffee Powder (Had issues, so will not bother talking about these results) and the mops were all stained after the test despite it not being used at all since it is on carpet: https://preview.redd.it/tqhgo8464abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99651bc5d9b7faecafd9f64e407418c534ff253f I did some carpet cleaning tests with Yellow Sand and here are the results: **before:** https://preview.redd.it/yfi97jqg3abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45048354b1909403e3912967c441fd8061239f48 **after:** https://preview.redd.it/0ziujigi3abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3cb5180a42ca99b2373acd2823d93851fae6371 This was just 1 run, so overall I’d say it did a very good job and probably would have gotten the last little bit after a second run. Here is a map of the cleanup: https://preview.redd.it/eafzt6k26abe1.jpg?width=490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccb7bbbcf5d1cf4fc6b1f638a12d33c36f45c06c   ***Mopping performance: 7/10***   The mopping is solid, the tiles come off as clean after a run and the extended mop makes sure every spot is covered. It does miss some small pieces of dust, but the FlexiArm is a lot more active on this surface and it does usually pick them up. The only negative is that the amount of water is uses can be high, but this can be changed via the settings. It does use the auto detergent, but considering it is 1:200 dilution, you will not notice the difference vs normal water. I tried testing the mopping  via the use of Coffee Powder on the ground to see how it deals with a situation like that. https://preview.redd.it/og8z2k1s4abe1.jpg?width=2482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2159c0a5663c0157449228d38d818f84745f7f48 It has a stain recognition + large particles setting in the app: https://preview.redd.it/ve9ssm3x4abe1.jpg?width=1115&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43bc9e0eaf65fe859af077a68c1b953ab768fccb It genuinely did a good job at the start, it recognised the stained areas and so it paid more attention to them: https://preview.redd.it/dam9xy855abe1.jpg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40260a1a7e0ad0a258831990e6639c3b9bb784d5 I was happy with its performance until around 30% left, when it decided to start mopping with Coffee Powder present and so you got this: https://preview.redd.it/t6y8ovta5abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed98c3ac1ca51d0f31ffaad9a62ccd9e89f08268 The Coffee Powder was just attached to the ground at this point, so couldn’t continue the test anymore and probably would have been better using something else. However, large amounts of pieces were still on the ground but it is my fault for using Coffee Powder to do this test, it wasn't a good choice. It does fine in every day situations.   ***Obstacle avoidance: 9/10***   The obstacle avoidance is very good, it avoids everything and recognises everything ALMOST right. This includes cables, small objects like a white toy pen that I couldn't even see on the carpet until it told me about it. The screenshot qualities are not great, but good enough that you will know what is in the way. However, the reason it isn't 10/10 is because it does have false positives at times especially on carpets with patterns on them, but sometimes it does correct itself and recognise there is no obstacle there later on. Also, it will recognise obstacles in the wrong part of the room sometimes, so it will ‘avoid’ it in the middle of the room when the actual obstacle is at the end of the room.   ***Navigation: 7/10***   Overall, navigation is alright. If you have an open area with little obstacles. However, if you have things like a table with chairs that does not have a lot of room, few tall sofas closely together (where the robot vacuum can go under and clean), it struggles quite a bit to be honest and takes significantly longer than it should. It will also sometimes form random circles on the carpet, but this has gotten less after recent firmware updates. It also got stuck in one specific area, where there is a higher and lower carpet close to each other next to a wall even though it  should easily be able to get out of the situation, it just gives up and says there is an issue with the wheels (when there isn't). However, it was limited to that area only and I didn't experience this anywhere else. I would also say very tight spaces, it is not fantastic with, but I'm talking spaces barely bigger than itself so this is understandable. I forgot to mention, within 1 hour I see a massive white line across the vacuum, so it bumps into things (gently) and will do 360s when it is close to things such as well. I bought some thin PE foam tape and put it around the vacuum (avoiding sensors, cameras etc) and this resolved this issue but that 1 white line still remains.   ***FlexiArm: 6.5/10*** I completely forgot about this one, but I did mention it in the other sections, I'd say it does overall alright job on non-carpet area but could be better used on carpet to cover the sides and should be turned on more frequently. ***Maintenance: 9/10***   Pretty straightforward maintenance overall. Empty dirty water, re-fill the clean water, re-fill the auto detergent etc. The self-cleaning filter is 50/50 but the self-cleaning tray is amazing and does a really good job. Where it loses points for me is that I feel the cover where the auto detergent and dust bin are placed can be a lot more user friendly and easier to put back in. It required me doing it a few times before it finally sat properly. The app tells you when and what to replace over time as well, which is very nice.   ***App experience: 7.5/10***   I'll keep this section short; it is a pretty good app and gets too much hate at times (outside certain firmware updates). It has a ton of features and is overall user friendly. I did run into one issue where when 90% of my house was vacuumed + mopped and this resulted in the app becoming very laggy, which is definitely an issue.   ***Things I cannot/did not test:***   Longevity - Only had it for a short period. Pet use - There are specific features it has to help with pets, but I don't have pets so any testing related to pets I can't discuss at all. I can't test the voice commands (including via Alexa and Google) + AI voice features because it is the Chinese version. Lift feature – No interest at all in this.  Electrolyzed water - I wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of testing it.   Overall, I'd be lying to you if I said I was blown away by its performance, it has issues that need addressing that were mentioned above + the price it will be released at is likely going to make it likely the most expensive Robot Vacuum on the market once it is released, so I can't justify the price tag at that price (Probably $1900-2000 USD before discounts). However, I bought it for $650-700 USD (excluding additional costs to get it working here) so for that price, it was probably worth it. If you have the X40, I'd recommend saving your money and passing on this one unless you have pets then I'd look into the new features or If you feel the self-cleaning options etc are worth it. If you want a rating out of 10, I'd say it is a 7.5/10.     \*\*tl;dr\*\*   Overall, decent vacuum but has poor battery life (1 minute use = 1%), navigation can be iffy if complicated layout but otherwise does well, carpet performance + mopping is good but nothing mind blowing. New features like retracting lidar is too overly cautious, self-cleaning filter is okay, but the self-cleaning tray is extremely good. If you have X40, skip this one unless you want the pet features and/or retracting lidar. The self-cleaning stuff maybe a selling point for some as well. 7.5/10

In Australia, the X50 will not be released until like late 2025, let's be honest. So, x40 is a very good option.

No problem at all. Yeah x40 should work great for you.

While I agree that for many X40 --> X50 is not a massive upgrade, I disagree that it can be considered a downgrade. The double brush design with amazing anti tangle properties, the self cleaning tray, the retracting lidar, the auto detergent that is used on the floor cleaning (as opposed to just washing the mops). If you own pets, this is a decent upgrade for example. If you have rooms with high thresholds, this is a good upgrade. It just depends on your needs, but let's say it is between x40 for 1/2 the price of x50 and you are just an average user then I'd probably say save your money and get the x40.

I hated the ever so confused Dreame x40. It would leave rolled up hair everywhere since day one and never know where it's going. It's favorite thing to do other than getting lost and making doobies, is getting stuck.

I’ve bought two Dreame x40 and one saros 10r and all have needed returned for being defective so my advice is not go to with the latest and greatest and get a robot that handles the basics very well that you need without all the extras that drive price up.

Those are older robots. The Roborock and Dreame would be OK for the right price, but I would probably avoid the Ecovacs X2; it did poorly in reviews, particularly at navigation. The Roomba doesn't have mop pad washing; for the prices I'm seeing, you can do much better. If obstacle avoidance is important, then I would purchase one of the flagship robots from a brand known to have good obstacle avoidance: the Eufy S1 Pro, Dreame X40, or Narwal Freo Z. I might tentatively include the Roborock Saros 10R; Roborock has historically been poor at obstacle avoidance, and this is a new product, but some reviews have indicated it does much better than other Roborocks at avoiding obstacles.

I use two mid-grade robots to keep my main floor clean and I rarely haul out my old manual vacuum. My Shark AI is loud, but a total workhorse. No mopping. The Yeedi cube I have mops and cleans- poorly at best. You're looking at the models I am. The Yeedi parent brand is Ecovacs, just for reference. I loved my oldest Yeedi, it was super tough. I'm hesitant to invest in another Yeedi, but people do love them! They probably got better since my last purchase. Roborock S8 (MaxVUltra) is the other one I've looked closely at... but sometimes people say not worth the cost. Investing $999 in a vacuum is a big deal! The Eureka J15 looks cool. The Dreme X40 is the best discounted price on Amazon right now. As the robots get better, I really want one that vacuums and mops well. I have kids, cats and dogs, plus boys who cheat and don't take their boots off when I'm not home. I work a ton, so I really want something I can set and monitor from my office while I'm away.

I will say x40 my L20 perform not that good still get stuck.

Also worth mentioning that if you want auto plumbing(empty/refill) the dreame x40 master is a good one, or do the mova p10 and buy the kit for a bit less. I went with the master for the smaller dock and a couple of random enhancements that are ultimately pretty small.

FWIW X40(not even latest/greatest) spinning mop got 3.76 mopping on vacuumwars, where saros 10 got 3.38 for mopping, so even the 'latest greatest' vibrating doesn't beat last gen spinning. Not sure what 'proved' what you are saying.

Had an L40 for a week and now have had an X40 for the same amount of time. Not sure why but the L40 performed way way better. The x40 always leaves clumps of my golden retriever’s hair in a couple places.  Never had that happen with the L40. Pretty annoying considering the x40 is supposed to be better. Used tri cut brush in both as well btw.

I am using the X40 for 6 months and It is amazing. So much better than my previous Neato D7.

>Since the new generation of robots just came out, I would wait a bit before buying I think now is a perfect time to buy an X40 at a discount. I just bought a Dreame X40 "refurbished" for $800. There's nothing on the X50 or Saros 10R over the X40 that is appealing to me, so the extra $500-1000 was not worth it. I've only had mine a couple of weeks but I'm loving it so far. It's far better than the Ecovavs I had before. The mopping and vacuuming performance have been great and it's much better at avoiding obstacles and the thresholds setting in the app helps it get over some places my Ecovavs would fail on. The X40 also integrates beautifully with Home Assistant too with the HACS integration.

I don't think you'll find anything with 3.5 inches clearance in that price range. The Dreame X50 with its retractable lidar sensor may be your best option, but it will be $1500-2000. The Dreame X40 checks all the other boxes and you can get it for $800 "refurbished" from eBay with a 2 year extended warranty. I bought one recently and it looked brand new and completely unopened.

Thanks for this review, I own the X40 and I don't see any reason to switch to the X50 as of now. FOr some reason it looks like the X50 may be a downgrade. I wish they didn't change so much and simply improved on the X40 by adding the retractable lidar sensor and adding the height feature to go over taller saddles in between rooms which is actually a great features for many homes FYI.

I actually ended up with 2 X40, after buying one, dreame sent me one to test. I think its hands down the best all around option right now, especially once you hook it up to the water line and drain, i run it daily in our house and we got rid of our cleaning help because of it. The X50 price will drop to 1k within a few months like the X40 did and no one should pay the 2k premium price.

For me, the one to beat is the Dreame X40. Rock solid performance. I hope it holds up as long as my pair or Roborock S5's did.

You will want something that has a twin rotating scrub brushes or a roller mop as the vibrating mops are meh. I have the Mova P50 pro ultra and love it. It's a small step up from the Dreame X40 which is also a great machine. The Qrevo series has twin scrubbies as well. Eufy is one of the few brands that has a roller mop. So not only does it clean but has a dirty water tank to dispose of all that bird poop in. The others could possibly smeer it around. Object avoidance, even with the most expensive vacs are still lacking for some homes, but I have found my Mova to be adequate. I believe it's the same object avoidance that's in the X40 but I could be wrong and is on par with the X50. They still might chomp some USB cables from time to time, but won't be outright running full speed into things. Roborock is supposed to have the best app. I think Mova/Dreames app is pretty darn good. But I'm stepping up for a shark and Roomba. Both of which have the lousiest apps. Having pets, a mopping station that "auto" cleans itself is a big plus. I hope that helps narrow it down. I know it's a lot and had to force myself to just hit "add to cart" or I would still be stuck looking at too much information and confusing myself all over again.

Not a single best list / review I've seen actually deals with fully carpeted homes as is common in the UK. In addition, homes are 100 years old and have steps everywhere. I want a top of the line one but it has to work perfectly when lifted up and dumped into a space without having access to its little base. It therefore needs a decent bin size as fluffy carpets full those things up very quickly. I tried an X40 and it was AMAZING in the bathroom, which is tiled. But it sucked everywhere else cause it couldn't hoover close enough to the walls (the horizontal spinning thing does nothing when everything is carpet) so there was always a foot along the walls where it wouldnt hoover. In addition, if you carry it to the next floor / room / whatever to hoover, it would fill up and not tell you about it cause its not used to being on full carpet all day long. Anyone got good recommendations for a top end vacuum (mopping also nice) that works perfectly well when being carried around room to room and on fully carpeted surfaces?

I feel seen. I've gone through the same emotions. A 1000 dollar robot should have some minimal qualities that just work. I had Dreame x40 and it was impressive but then things didn't work. Too many sensors were wonky. It keeps beeping saying "charging" every few minutes. Didn't warn when it was out of water. Or when dirty water tank was overflowing. The Eufy S1 pro was the best at washing floors with a caveat of it did not go near edges. So I had a strip or 2 inches of dirty floor in the kitchen. Currently landed on Roborock Qrevo master but I learned to adjust expectations. It's first fun run I had to rescue it once and a couple of other times remove a small plastic wrapper that was caught in the roller and making a lot of noise. But it does a decent job. And their app is the best out there. I think this is as good a it gets for this era of robo vacuums. PS - none of them handle rubber mats well and all leave an inch of dirt around it as they try to climb on.

Hey — honestly both are excellent, but a lot depends on how much you want to future-proof. For your 200 m² house: * **L10s Ultra Gen 2** will definitely handle the size no problem, solid mopping, and you’re already getting hot water mop washing which is a huge step up from the original L10s Ultra. * **X40** gets you more AI avoidance, better edge cleaning, more flexible mop lifting, and smarter route planning — it does a bit better avoiding cables, socks, etc. And yes, it tends to track with floor lines better because of the newer pathing. If you’re mostly worried about "is the $330 difference worth it" — in a big space like yours, the X40’s better object avoidance and slightly faster clean times *do* start to add up over time. But the Gen 2 is still a very, very strong value. TLDR: If budget’s flexible, go X40. If you want the best price/performance combo, L10s Ultra Gen 2 is already great.

I have the x40 master. It has a detergent reservoir which works well. Overall it is a great bot and I love having it plumbed it. Lately though, I’ve felt less impressed with its mopping capabilities and I’m probably going to get a new unit with a roller mop once I can find the holy grail trifecta of excellent obstacle avoidance, roller mop and plumbing kit.

I just bought the Dreame x40 master for the exact same reason and because it is plumbed in because I never remembered to change the water tanks in my Roborock. Just trying it out today so my fingers are crossed.

It’s early but so far great although for some reason my kids have been better at picking up after themselves so the robot hasn’t been to challenged yet. I have gotten two messages asking me to rescue the robot because it sucked up something it shouldn’t have. The first time I was busy and let it be for a bit and it eventually resumed on its own. The second time I came to the rescue and it had swallowed a small toy the size of a Lego. Not sure if it would have resumed on its own and the toy lost to the trash bin. I love that it’s plumbed in! I did not end up using the valve adapter it came with because it leaked. Instead I used osmosis water filter adapters found on Amazon. I am quite happy with its mopping and vacuuming but I’m not too fussy in general about perfection when it comes to cleaning performance. I figure with time and repetition the robot will eventually clean better than I have been (which is not at all).

Dreame X40 or X50 both do a great job with carpet and hard floors in my home.

I bought an X40 refurb from Dreame's eBay store for 799. It was literally brand new, as they said someone returned it unopened, which has usually been the case with others on this forum. But the important thing is that with kids, my house is constantly messy: a bunch of socks here and there, jackets on the floor, shoes at random places, under the couches, and in general chaos. But with Dreame x40, I just set it and forget about it; I never had to unclog/unblock it, and my floors feel nice. One thing I am learning is that with excellent obstacle avoidance comes great responsibility - Onion peels in the kitchen can get misrecognized as dog poop, so there is that versus going over it. My earlier Roborock Master, every run I had to unclog a sock or a lace or a cable. It was just frustrating.

Dreame X40 is similar to the unreleased (in) Western market Roborock V20 (minus retractable top), which should be the next flagship Roborock to launch. Superior to the S8 Ultra/Maxv in every way. I have an S8 I regret buying, and an X40 on the way.

I was in a similar spot to you two weeks ago. I previously had an iRobot Roomba S9+ and Braava jet M6. The Roomba would constantly eat wires and never finish a full run while the Braava was clunky and inefficient. I have really thick carpets, wife and cat that shed a lot and it always did a number on the Roomba. I also had a similar budget of $600-1000 and overall it was hard to stomach paying $400 more for a robovac. I ended up finding Dreame has an official storefront on eBay and sells X40/L40/X30’s refurbished for heavily discounted prices over there, with two year warranty from allstate instead of the warranty coming from the manufacturer. Pulled the trigger on a certified refurbished X40 for $700 from them and was hesitant doing so but it arrived in brand new condition with no signs of use or imperfections when unboxing. Have run it daily for over 15 hours now on custom turbo with mop after vac setting. It hasn’t gotten stuck once, the roller hasn’t split in half like Roomba’s had a tendency of doing, and the magnetic self cleaning mop pads have been a game changer. I’ll send the little robot to vacuum the entire house then it picks up mop pads once it’s done and there’s been no water smearing on carpet, no wires eaten, and the maintenance so far has just been dumping dirty water out each day after work. The reason ultimately I went with eBay over the manufacturer was that if you go to the subreddits of Roborock, iRobot, Dreame, Ecovacs etc you’ll see horror stories of customer support not responding or giving up on warranty support so at least the allstate warranty should be more reliable.

No worries at all! If this one happens to break at some point, i’d consider buying another Dreame yeah. Probably another X40 or an L40 as the X50 has hit or miss reviews on the subreddit from being so new. The app lets you customize a lot of functionality, from room sequencing, no mop/vac zones, if you want to have the robot leave mops in docking station before running the vacuum or mop + vacuum at the same time, how often the robot empties the dust bin/cleans mops, to even how wet you want to leave the floors when mopping. You can even have the robot run according to different cleaning configurations on scheduled days and times. I wish it had a dark mode, and I find the optional picture taking gimmicky, but that doesn’t really impede the main function of the robot. It’s easy to fine tune the robot to the parameters you want it, and then once you find that sweet spot all that’s left is to dump the dirty water and maintain the vacuum.  For maintenance after one week I removed the board that cleans the mops, dusted off the HEPA filter, cleaned the roller, gave the sensors and outside of the robot a good wipe down and it just took 15 mins or so. That’s the maintenance for the week lol. Nothing was broken or loose and in that week I haven’t seen any mold or excessive dirt deposits in the dock or robot. The running costs for 1L dreame detergent from Amazon is $25 (3-6 month supply for daily runs), and the reddit recommended an AliExpress seller “My Robot Hub” that sells a 3 month supply of 1 replacement roller, 3 replacement dust bags/side brushes, two HEPA filters and two sets of mop pads in original packaging for $16-26 after tax, so around 10-15 bucks per month. Compared to roomba where i’d spend 10 bucks per month on just rollers alone (my wifes hairs would split the middle of them) it’s a lot cheaper for way more performance. I have yet to try out the tricut brush but I ordered one to see if it helps with roller tangles, from the same AliExpress seller it was 17 bucks, just waiting for it to arrive to test it. The last big thing i’d say is that the robot runs without hallucinating and stopping halfway through a vacuum cycle. After 15 cycles i’ve seen it go under metal chairs and in tight crevices in my house that would consistently make the roomba throw error codes and stop at least every other day.  You can have the best robot out there, if the obstacle avoidance is terrible and it doesn’t actually clean the entire house, the specs on paper are pointless. It’s never gotten stuck and on the highest settings in intensive cleaning modes i’m able to vacuum and mop 1800 sq ft in 3 hours, the roomba it’d take 3-4 hours just to vacuum alone, if it didn’t get stuck and shut down after 90 minutes.  I’m sure there’s robots out there that could be even smarter and more efficient, just wasn’t able to find models with equivalent features without going into the $1400+ range (RR doesn’t sell refurbished top end models in my region for example).  I did want to say one last thing as well - Dreame notoriously has bad customer service if something goes wrong, like they give you the run around if you need warranty work, so if you do decide to get one, i’d only get one with some form of third party warranty like Asurion from Amazon or Allstate from Ebay. That way you remove the main downside with the company and that’s their repair support. Not sure if other companies have the same problem. Hope this helps!

Dreams X40 is the best if you want local control. It’s one of the best by itself, but it is compatible with valetudo as well

Dreame x40, best one on the market. If you’re going to invest your money into a product like this. Dont go cheap… you can find this model on sale most times for half off.

I’m full compliant with you. I own X40 from its launch and never a problem. Surely I can compare it with other bot. Tested Heat, L40, Narwal Freo X Ultra, Narwal Freo Z Ultra and Roborock slim. X40 it’s the more smart and has the most innovative features. It’s a robot that doesn’t give thoughts. It works and works always. A little more pressure in washing ant it will raise the perfection. But I’m sure that at the CES next week, we’ll have this upgrade 😉

Well the only real way to manage such cat fur is with a real vacuum like a miele or Sebo. My Miele compactifies months of kitty crumbs & fur like a champ (no cotton candy fur effect here). I use a dreame l10s ultra as my robot. I don't rely on the robot doing deep carpet cleans as I real vacuum about once a week but the dreame has been excellent with kitty floor and my long thick hair (with the dreame cutting brush). The q revo curv is the best robot money can buy right now so ofc that's the best recommendation. I like the dreame better for tighter margins and being more intrepid about mopping next to rugs. Get the dreame x40 master if you can afford it and do the water hookup as the water hookup is one of the final frontiers for a hands free robot. The dreame l10s ultra is sufficient and can empty its bin regularly to deal with kitty floof, but running it everyday should avoid any bin clogs. I would say the dreame l10s pro ultra is worth getting for hot water and water dirtiness sensor (advanced new mopping features). If you want the most advanced vacuum features get the roborock q revo curv. Checkout vacuumwars for feature comparisons and checkout RTINGS for some more grounded opinions. Overall stick with dreame and Roborock. They're repairable with great customer service and parts availability. One thing, the roborocks are SIGNIFICANTLY quieter than the dreames, but Pepperoni doesn't mind the dreame running. The Miele is ofc quieter than the robots on max power tho. Overall a robot is an amazing, indispensable companion to a bagged vacuum in a pet home! With my robot running multiple times daily, I almost never feel the need to "on demand" vacuum anymore.

I was just in your shoes looking for my first robot and overwhelmed with choices. I ultimately landed on the dreame x40. (Note there is a current Mother’s Day sale, and the newer x50 apparently has a shitty battery) It’s only been a week but I am absolutely blown away. Ultimately I think if it’s your first robot vacuum, the brand won’t really matter. It’d be like having a flip phone and researching the best new smart phone. I recommend the x40 and can’t imagine what other models could do better. Apparently other brands have better/easier to use apps (Roborock). But as someone who likes to tinker with dif settings etc I have no complaints with the dreame app.

I have the X40. It’s awesome and keeps my floors clean! 11341m2 14748 mins 203 cycles

Just returned my x40 today as it failed to dock itself almost 80% of the time. I’m probably going to try a roborock next

It’s interesting how many people seem to have issues with Dreame, but others swear by them. I’ve just returned an x40

Incorrect. Its right wheel couldn’t get on the ramp, so it didn’t even get near the contacts. I went through troubleshooting with Dreame and they acknowledged it was faulty.

What was the fault on yours? Mine failed to dock about 80% of the time

Yea I won't name the company but one big company just emailed me last night and told me to change the pascal rating from their own marketing material and up it by 1k! It is just BS. Yea I have new testing equipment for the hot water mop washing which will allow me to data log the entire wash cycle. I think is a borderline marketing scam as well. The Dreame X40 hit its peak temp for one second and only produced hot water (above 100F) for 20 seconds out of 2.5 minutes. Atleast they hit their peak though. Many others don't. Hot water would be effective with mopping, but my tests show no noticeable difference with cleaning stains from mopping pads.

The Narwal Freo Z, Dreame X30, X40, L40 and Eufy S1 Pro all do a decent job avoiding cables.

While I have not tested the S10 I have tested the S1 Pro. Here are my thoughts for comparison. 1. A roller mop on a robot will mop better and clean better that a spinning or vibrating mop. 2. A roller mop will require a good bit more hands on maintenance than a spinning or vibrating mop since it remove dirt and debris from the floors it has to have a filter inside that must be cleaned by hand. For the S1 this was every 2 cleanings of my home. 3. A roller mop does not have edge cleaning abilities. The S1 Pro is much closer than the Switchbot which is pretty dismal with edge cleaning. 4. IMO you are better buying a Qrevo S or Pro and supplementing with a Flexi or Dyad mop which mops better than any robot and has the best edge cleaning ability. I actually tested this theory yesterday. I had spilled dried up coffee stain under the kickplate of my kitchen cabinets. The S8 MaxV with the side mop barley touched it. The Qrevo MaxV did little to nothing with it. The Dreame X30 and X40 did nothing with it. The S1 Pro could not reach it. I broke out the Flexi Pro and it removed it all in 3 passes. People really overthink mopping and edge mopping with a robot. They spend crazy money and go through all types of effort in attempt to have a robot completely replace mopping by hand. Robots at least today don't effectively replace deep mopping. They are designed to keep the floors clean in between deeper mopping once or twice a month thus your floors appear to remain clean daily with less effort than hand mopping daily. If you are going to buy a roller mop and go through the same maintenance you have to perform with a Flexi Pro or Dyad Pro then why not just use a Flexi Pro and a Qrevo. To me that is the best combo and best way to keep your floors completely clean. I have said this for years.

It depends on how much you consider your floors being really clean a life changer. I view it as a life changer, I've now bought 6 Dreame vacuums (everyone in my family now has one, and every one of them loves it), only one has given serious issues, the rest have been pretty problem free. I recommend trying to get at least the 20 series or better, it is a significantly better product then the older models. The L10 is quite weak on corners/wall edges (and needless to say the 40 is the best). I've used other brands in the past, and Dreame is easily the best experience I had by far. Their customer service does suck though for the one I had issues with. Buy from Amazon so you have a good return policy in case it doesn't work well early on. I believe if you buy starting Oct 1st, the return date will be 1/31/2025 so you know you got at least 4 months of a good warranty.

I’ve just started using dreame x40 does a great job, honestly life changing. Quick and very quiet (52dB on hard wood floors) except when at base station cleaning mop pads. I bought from a store who will deal with warranty issues rather than direct from Dreame (who are known for difficult customer service)

Great to hear I just bought one (in post currently) for corner cleaning and object avoidance. I was worried about warranty issues but in Aus the Electronics retailer will do the warranty rather than having to deal with Dreame.

This does make sense, but at the same time it’s hard to argue with the amount of dirt in the dirty water tank after my X40 finishes its run.

Get the dreame x40 refurb on eBay for $880

X40 if you care about edges and corners. 

We are super happy with our X40, the only thing I fear after visiting reddit is their repair support.

So sorry for you :( Ours is still going strong, without any issues.

The Dreame robot mop system is our favorite new roommate! We have a new and an older iRobot Roomba vacuums and recently got this one for the main floor. We're very happy with it. It's available in many different price ranges.