Dreame - X40 Ultra

I have an i7+ here that was almost a thousand bucks when I bought it - it never worked right, never found its base station, ignored zones, didn't charge half of the time, total garbage.  I now have a Dreame X40 Ultra and couldn't be happier. It just works.  No HA integration though. 

If you have hardwood flooring, get Eufy S1 Pro (best mopping device. No other vacuum is remotely close) If you have some carpets, get Dreame x40 Ultra (edge cleaning and mopping)

I got an Dreame X40 Ultra

No worries - I tried a new Roomba 10 Max or something and it is just as bad as my old one. I returned it and got a Dreame X40. Night and day difference. I’m sure your Curv will do just as well!

Just got the [Dreame X40 Ultra ](https://www.reddit.com/user/Accurate_Shine5695/comments/1jhg9u6/best_highend_robot_vacuums_of_2025_a_quick/)and it’s a game changer for pet hair! Super strong suction, picks up all the fur without any issues. Plus, the vacuum AND mop combo is perfect for keeping everything spotless. The self-cleaning and self-emptying features are a big bonus, less hassle for me. Highly recommend if you’ve got pets!

The Dreame X40 Ultra uses advanced LiDAR navigation and AI-powered object recognition to effectively detect and avoid obstacles, including small objects and potential hazards. Its upgraded sensors make it more reliable in handling unexpected messes compared to older models like the Roborock S7. While no RoboVac is 100% foolproof, the X40's smarter navigation significantly reduces the chances of mishaps like running through pet waste.

I purchased a refurbished Dreame X40 Ultra from eBay. It’s been super solid. I just got the tricut brush to see if I can get a little bit better performance on carpet with our shedding dogs.

I had an ecovacs x1 Omni that just bit the dust. The main brush stopped working after just over 2 years. Luckily I paid for a three year warranty so I got an Amazon gift card for the original purchase price and I got another one - went with the dreame x40 ultra this time - and you better believe I added another three year warranty.

Love my x40!

I have the X40 and i agree, the TriCut brush does make a big difference. Plus I like the extending mops and robo swing tech to go under the low hanging places like this -> [https://youtube.com/shorts/Nwas4UMqNBo](https://youtube.com/shorts/Nwas4UMqNBo) Again, I still feel, any robot vacuum is not a 100% replacement for manual deep clean.. Example, corners and sides etc. (even with the extendible side brushes -> [https://youtube.com/shorts/L8BG\_fKbz0E](https://youtube.com/shorts/L8BG_fKbz0E) ) sometimes leave a little dust/debris time to time, or right at the edges of the rugs etc., Just gets the everyday cleaning chores a little easier. Still a + in my books.. X40 Object avoidance is great.. Have seen roborocks tangle with cables in almost all reviews but yet to find mine do the same.. And now with Black friday deals going on, its listed for less than the L40 on Amazon (in US at least). More suction power, bigger battery power and i guess 1 extra laser on the front for less.. thats a good deal. only thing missing/lacking vs the L40 is i guess the voice command, which are again going to be hit or miss anyways. I have scheduled my unit to run everyday before we wake up so dont need that gimmick as such. Plus it has "works with Alexa" but i hardly use it.. Just my 2 cents. :).. Good luck finding your product.

I have the dreame and its my 1st robo vac. So Cant say how the other 2 are but the X40 Ultra is really really good at avoiding obstacles.. The other thing i found missing is that the brush doesn't work on carpets. I would think it wouldn't hurt to have it run and try to send as much dirt/debris on the carpet towards the main roller brush anyways. I have read somewhere that its already being made available in certain regions with a s/w update, I haven't received it thought. All in all, pretty good with my purchase. Good luck

Yeah i am definitely returning this & will try dreame ultra x40. Lets see if that does a better job.

I think the X40 Ultra would be good as it can remove mops. In my experience, ones that only lift mops end up wetting the sides.

There are much better robots you can buy at the same price or lower. There is the dreame x40 ultra for £1099 which will greatly outperform the deebot x5 pro. It has hot water mop cleaning, tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, and good mopping. Dreame robots have the best edge cleaning out of all the brands. There is the dreame l40 ultra for £849, a much better deal as it is essentially the same as the Dreame x40 ultra except for battery life. Since you didn’t mention having a pet, I think the best value choice is the dreame L10s ultra Gen 2 (£549). Also tangle free vacuuming with the TriCut brush, strong all-around performance, but no hot water mop washing. Just take care of your cables and it’ll do well.

I think the Dreame L/X40 Ultra (choose whichever is cheaper) would be a better fit for you with the TriCut brush. Best object recognition and obstacle avoidance (Narwal is similarly as good) Better vacuuming than the Narwal but not as great as the Roborock Curv (I don’t think that the price justifies its performance) The Eufy S1 pro and the Narwal Freo z are great at raw mopping performance but the Eufy can’t deal with hair well and it seems vacuuming is a bit of an issue. Dreame’s eh raw mopping is compensated by its onboard CleanGenius to help it decide whether to go over areas.

How tall are the thresholds? Most can handle 2cm with no issue but only the x40 ultra (24mm) and the QRevo Curv/Edge (30mm for a single threshold, 40mm for two consecutive thresholds that are 30mm +10mm) handle higher. Otherwise, you’d have to use a ramp

Generally: Dreame will have the best edge cleaning. This is on the x30 ultra and newer with the L/X40 ultra and newer models having an extendable side brush with the best extension algorithm right now. Mop extension lacks a spring which means it can ride up on quarter round floor moldings if your home has any. Roborock Saros 10R and the QRevo Edge/Curv are nice choices if there are no cables or pet accidents for it to eat. Narwal is a very solid option. The Freo Z ultra has the best smart cleaning mode. It’s okay taking care of things like hair and visible dust but still isn’t as good as vacuuming as it is at mopping. Eufy s1 pro is a very solid mopping option. Won’t edge clean as well as the above models but mops pretty well.

Any dreame model with a self cleaning mop tray? This would be the Dreame X/L30-40. It’s worked well at cleaning my corgi’s fur balls to the drainage area. The mop extend has worked well mopping his drool from the edges of the rooms where he likes to sleep. You can add any TriCut brush and the cover that prevents hair from going to the side to any Dreame model. It’s worked great at preventing tangles. Roborock Q Revo models are also worth looking at. Only the one with the DuoDivine brush is truly no tangle. The other brushes will have the hair and fur tangled on the sides. I recommend rotating mop models as they are better at cleaning off drool. These two brands are pretty good at obstacle avoidance and cleaning overall. There are roller mop models but Eufy’s ozone generator poses a long term risk in terms of reliability as someone reported ozone generators could degrade the rubber seals. Eureka J20 (Midea’s W20) doesn’t seem to be great at obstacle avoidance either.

Narwal Freo Z Ultra is the best robot mop but an ok vacuum. It does not have an internal water tank so this means it’ll have to frequently go back to the station to rewet its mops. This shouldn’t be a problem if your house isn’t very big. If it is, consider the other two models with an internal water tank. I’ve also heard mixed reviews about NarWal’s customer service. As for the app, I’m not so sure but I think it’s on par with the other brands (please correct me if I’m wrong). As the robot’s home is behind furniture, I’d recommend a model that has a self cleaning base station. Narwal doesn’t have this but I believe the next two models do. Dreame’s L/X40 has similar computer vision smarts and can extend and swing its extended mop under areas like the fridge where stains tend to accumulate with better vacuuming performance than the Freo Z. There’s currently no other model in the international market that can do this (NarWal’s 001 Max is still only available in mainland China). I’ve heard mixed reactions when it comes to its international customer service. The app is feature rich but means the UI will be more complicated. The QRevo Curv/Edge can also be considered but won’t have as amazing computer vision smarts as the previous two models. However, I heard the app has the best UI and that customer service can be mixed.

You can also consider Dreame’s X40 Ultra or the cheaper L40 Ultra if your household has long hair. Dreame released the extending side brush and extending right mop first and roborock copied them. A Dreame model with double anti-tangling conical brushes and their enhanced mop cleaning system that works like a dishwasher is likely to be announced for next year. Both Dreame and roborock are the most reliable brands. iRobot used to be as well but their app quality and consumer experience has been declining so I’ve excluded them. If you have only hardwood floors, you can consider the Eufy S1 Pro as its roll mopping is inherently better than those spinning mops. I have doubts about the ozone generator and the chance that the water tank may leak ozone into the air. It’s not good at edge cleaning and the only robot that can clean the edge is only available in mainland china and is miles better than the Eufy S1 Pro. You can consider the Narwal Freo Z Ultra if you’re okay with having to clean the base’s mop tray more and see it twerk.

Glad I could help! I’d recommend the X40U if you have carpets that aren’t easily replaceable or are expensive as it’ll remove the mops to clean carpets. The L40 Ultra is currently a better deal. I will say that my dog’s fur does gather around the part where the mop holder is attached to the robot but it’s easily removable and doesn’t throw the robot into a fit nor affect its actual functionality. But then, this is an issue I found to be common with any rotating mop model. I genuinely have no idea how the fur somehow doesn’t get stuck in the actual mop but goes above it. Dreame’s app is also rather feature rich at the expense of the UI. If you want to purchase any dreame, I’d recommend getting it from an authorized retailer as customer service will be more hassle free. Dreame’s own customer service is only good if you speak Mandarin Chinese. I highly recommend buying the dirty water module from Dreame on AliExpress. It really does work in my experience and it’s genuinely never been stinky, negating the need for me to put bleach in it and shaking it around. Just ask 是正品吗? Which means are the products genuine? If they say it is or it is original, it is the real one. If it’s not they’ll say it’s either compatible or suitable (depends on how AliExpress will translate it).

Best model for 2025 release in the US is probably Dreame’s X50 Ultra as it seems to best meet all your needs. Currently, I do not think any current models will sufficiently meet your requirements as the current models have some drawback in the requirement you have mentioned. Dreame X/L40 Ultra compared to X50 Compared to the X50 Ultra: Double brush system has worked much better on carpets than with the TriCut brush. Both approaches perform just as well on hard floors. Dreame’s X50 Ultra’s double brush performs better on carpet. For some reason, the bristle brushes on all the older models (rubber and bristle combo brush and the TriCut brush) liked to eat some of the fiber on my low pile densely packed carpet. I’m not sure if this is universally applicable to all carpets as I haven’t seen other people report this issue. However the second bristle and rubber combo brush on the X50 Ultra did not do any of that on my carpet. It can’t clean its own filter like the X50 and the X50’s AceClean mop cleaning system with water jets are much better at self cleaning the washboard than the X40 Ultra’s washboard with wipers. The X40 washboard also has some difficult to clean areas and little nooks and crannies that I didn’t really like cleaning If you have furniture with low clearance (under 10cm): the X40 cannot make it under there whereas the x50’s retracting lidar can. If you have high thresholds above 24mm, you’d appreciate the Dreame’s new threshold climbing legs No ability to compress the fur in the dust box while it is vacuuming to maximize the use of the dustbin volume. Roborock’s obstacle avoidance isn’t as good as dreame.

Currently available in the market and is a general all rounder for both vacuuming and mopping with good anti-tangling: dreame X/L40 Ultra, Roborock QRevo Curv/Edge, Dreame’s subbrand MOVA P10 Pro Ultra if lack of mop removal isn’t an issue and is the cheapest at 659 USD. To be released in a month: Dreame X50 Ultra with the best mop washboard self-cleaning system (preorders are open to purchase it for 1309), Roborock Saros 10R (February release, no preorders) To be released within the first half of 2025 in the US: MOVA V50S Ultra (little is known but I am hopeful), MOVA Z50 Ultra (most is known and it seems to have X40 ultra level vacuuming but much better mopping), Narwal Flow (excited about this one but no reviews anywhere)

There is the dreame L/X40 Ultra with the TriCut brush or the Roborock Edge/Curv which I think will be similar in terms of all-around vacuuming and mopping while having good anti-tangling. The Dreame will have better edge cleaning if that is what you’re after but the roborock will have a simpler ui.

Yes in fact its the ONLY ROBOT that can possibly clean my house divided with a 50mm floor height differential... If i can get things cleaned up and storage space for the YouTube videos I believe my work will have me as one of if not the only USA based client using X50 model - I will have a lot of info to share soon for anyone here - and show exactly why this was the one robot that i Didn't want to waste even the holiday discount on amazon USA Dreame X40 Ultra of $999 pre tax when $1600 could actually clean in entire house with features i had prayed would all be added into a single machine (Dual Tappered Rollers with attachment only on one side for complete solution to all hair tangles no need to cut them when like the Roborock Qrevo Curve has a split single version the same concept to not have hair tangle and drive towards in its case the center and into bin directly vs tangling in roller) Many.. many.. more examples I saw over all the parent companies differing products but never put into a singular one for US markets anyway.. And idk if the X50 Pro will ever be sold in US markets.. Most likely a dumbed down version! Justy like the X40 Ultra ... VS PPRO ULTRA that solves MANY of my issues as a designer that the X40 with a singular roller has.. That for the years they were decent pre <2017 that iRobot at least realized the dual roller is always superior to the singular and that you see added suction added to work dumber not smarter with everyone that was held back by their patent on the tech.. Anyway in a Dr. office waiting room.. Probably tons of typos but I was searching to check if X50 Ultra replacement filters and things will work on X50 Pro as its just a few days away now and came across this thread.. Will maybe share more and update this to not be as scattered later - But I need to even confirm our "Work Around" even functions.. I WOULD NOT Encourage anyone to order an X50 model of Any kind of in USA as Chinese people are willing to sell you hardware but not share you will be geo locked.. Some X40 models were able to have a VPN type workaround but they became more sophisticated with means to validate app and robot location and even limit ... well no warranty ..thats a given and horrifying for most.. But we arent even sure how firmware will go with the server \[I cant say more here\] But Ill be doing reviews soon and while they do change their security .. Its one reason id never advise anyone but those willing to have a $1500 paperweight.. with no support nothing! I am on the other hand a trail blazer and trying to overcome the issues keeping robots for US markets IMO .. Limited in ways... WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY FOR! And years of robotics work since... early childhood just made me repulsed by the options given to us here in USA.... Even if the X40 Pro ultra or BETTER X40 Pro Enhanced were vaialble .. Id not have such repulse for the designs.. But again my house (Studio) has a 50+ mm divider from main room here in the main area, to the bathroom which is elevated by that much that then another doorway and drops down that much into bedroom ... Needing cleaning.. Currently being cleaned by a Roomba something J7+ whatever thats being returned to amazon..

Really really good. With the AI Assist built in, the vacuum identifies obstacles, avoids them, and sends you a picture. My kids leave their shoes by the front door a lot of the time and it manages to navigate through without grabbing shoelaces. My advice is watch a bunch of videos on the Dreame X40 Ultra since they are the same robot at their core.

Just freed a refurbished Dreame x40 ultra from the cloud so it can run purely local. Picked it up from the official Dreame store on eBay. Would recommend.

I've ordered the qrevo edge. Was holding out for the curv but given it's virtually the same with just a different looking dock decided to pull the trigger on the edge with the free H5 as part of the launch offer. The CES robots won't get in Australia till late this year I believe, given how long it took to get the edge/curv. I hear dreame support isn't very good. Other than that dreame maybe a good option - keep in mind the x40 ultra doesn't spin the side brush on carpet which makes it a no go if you have edge to edge carpets. I'm coming from a roborock s7+ and my experience with roborock has been great. Wanted that newest with spinning mops, fully automated dock and threshold climbing and so decided on edge! You may not need the threshold climbing or may not have edge to edge carpets and perhaps you want better obstacle avoidance - then go for dreame x40.

We have a Dreame X40 Ultra, it sweeps and mops, heats the mop water, maps your house and actually follows a pattern instead of randomly bumping around. We have 3 dogs so we set it to vacuum and mop every night. 

Dreame x40 Ultra vs 2 German Shepards. Life changing. Haven’t needed the vacuum cleaner since we got it.

I just bought the Dreame X40 Ultra and it cleans the edges and corners floorless.

It's pretty good actually. You can adjust the vacuum power but even on turbo you can still watch TV if you turn it up slightly

We have a Dreame X40 Ultra with the Tricut brush. 3 dogs, 2 cats. Working great with no issues so far.

Good stuff. Please test for threshold crossing ability. Those of us in older homes really need that. Dreame x40 Ultra jumps stuff well enough, I have door mats over the 3/4 to 1" thresholds and it did ok. Not great but ok. All my previous roomba's managed it, the door mats are a direct result of a roomba a few years ago. Dreame stopped picking up the mops so it went home and I bought a Ecovacs T30s Deebot AI, It has a very hard time with thresholds. It gives up quickly and does not map well. For example, first time out, it was unable to leave the kitchen. So it mapped the kitchen and a space outside the kitchen that it could see was called a room. But it was only able to see 30% of the actual room. Sent it to clean that room. It jumped the threshold and cleaned the entire room. It did not update the map as the dreame would each run. Sent out for a remap. Got the center room and failed to get the hallway that did not have a threshold to cross, got 20% of another room it could't get in and didn't place a wall where there was a wall. So that is going home in a week or so when the replacement gets here. So I'm waiting on a Roborock Qrevo Curve. We will see where that goes.

I'm on my 3d Premium Mop/Vac since December. I've run Roomba Vacs for years. Roomba is no longer the top dog. They did manage my high thresholds well when I set up door mats across the threshold to make a bridge. They vacuum ok. The self empty is good. Their vac strength and object avoidance is lacking. First premium was a Dreame x40 Ultra. Great machine if it could hold its mops. Worked great for about 4 weeks. It was able to jump thresholds without an issue, it updated the map each run and identified obstacles well. It never got stuck. Never sucked up a sock, pen or tissue. Then it stopped picking up it's mops when heading out to a mop only cycle. Sent it back. Second Pre was an Ecovac T30 Ai. It had a hard time with the thresholds. Did not make it over established ramps that the Roomba's (2 different) and the Dreame made without a problem. This resulted in a bad map. Once the room showed on a map, you could send it to that room and it would jump the threshold 2 out of 3 times. But it had only looked through the door and saw half the room. So it would either mop/vac half the room or get lost when it got to the section it had not mapped. It did not update the maps as it went. So it was not possible to get a 'good' map. It also does not seem to be multi-floor compatible. It went back. If I didn't have high thresholds it would have mapped well and I'd probably be super happy with it. Functionally it was good other than the threshold issue. 3rd and hopefully last is a RoboRock QRevo Curve, same bot as the Edge in a different base. It has been running well for the past couple weeks. Object avoidance is not as good as the Dreame. It has got stuck on a cord 2x and sucked up a small black cloth I use to clean my glasses. Both times stopping and waiting for me to help it. After helping you set it down and press play on the app. It locates and continues where it left off. It does seem to clear pet and human hair from it's brushes. I've run it for a few weeks in a house with a cat and a girl with long hair. I just looked at the brushes last night and they had zero hair in them. Moping could be better. I'm still working on that. I think I need to increase the wetness or wash frequency, it leaves swirls. All that said, I'm probably keeping this one. The gripes are minor and I like it's ability to raise itself over thresholds. It currently is cleaning a room the others could not get in and out of.

I have been using the Dreame X40 Ultra with the Tri Cut brush and it manages to gobble all my hip-length hair up without getting any tangles at all. There is minimal hair wrap around the very ends of the brush (the little knobs that attach to the body) but that comes off very easily and is barely a problem. The front wheel does seem to have a bunch of hair caught in its bearings though. I don't know if this will be a problem down the line. As for IoT concerns, I've flashed mine with Valetudo so I don't need to worry about privacy / my bot turning into a paperweight because the company goes out of business and shuts its servers down.

Dreame's official store on ebay is selling X40 Ultra's refurbed for about $880. I was reluctant to spend this kind of money, but the reviews I found were universally really good across the internet. Not to mention, short of the X40 Master (which actually taps into a water line) it's the same robot/their top of the line. So I figured if I couldn't root it to Valetudo I'd just return it. They day it arrived I immediately attempted to root it (no less via Windows) and it honestly was pretty easy. Well easy for me/the type of people that play in this home automation space. Having rooted it, the amount of pictures this thing takes is significant. In any case, I gotta say I am genuinely impressed at how well its handled transitioning between carpet/floor and either lifting or detaching the magnetic mops. It isn't perfect (10/10)*.* But it is really good (9/10). I think what's worth emphasizing here, its not as though you will never do this again manually - but as an automated maintenance task it's been solid. Something else worth sharing that seems to be a footnote on what I assume to be all of these robots/certainly this one in particular - the bags it uses to empty are proprietary (although Amazon seems to have a healthy amount of compatible knockoffs) and it has it's own proprietary cleaning solution it mixes with the water reservoir.

Yup, if you don’t want to be disappointed buy a dreame x40 it’s probably cheaper. I would explain but I’ve explained it so much to roborock lovers that I’m tired of it

and btw I’m totally serious the x40 will blow you away. I am a long time owner of robovacs and I can’t save everyone this is the best on the market. Take that as you will.

I also forgot to mention that the x40 is priced the same and has an auto floor cleaner Injection. It’s the companies flagship and the master is a side project for roborock. You will not get the quality you are looking for it’s a 1000 dollar robot. Get the flagship

Yes and I agree with you. Except dreams doesn’t have 10 models at the same price point

The x40 ultra is a 1900 dollar robot on sale for 999$ right now. The master is always on sale. That should tell you enough about the product

Yes, but obstacle avoidance will be an immense hassle. Also dreame has an actually good floor cleaning solution that isn’t harmful to animals and cleans the floors better. Furthermore it has a 6400mah battery vs a 5400. Longer battery life and when the master craps the bed and starts to run into everything and everything you will be thankful you saw this comment. I have had 3 roborocks and always bought another because I thought they were good value. They don’t do what they say they do. Also the hair cutting thing doesn’t work on the master. X40 you can get a tricut brush that cuts hair and cleans better

Dreame x40 ultra and look no further

I’ll give you an explanation since you seem interested. Anything roborock will be subpar. Contrary to what these marketers will tell you. You can buy the x30 or x40 I think x40 is sold out. Or even l10s ultra for the same price and the tech is SOOOO much better. I will never go back to roborock. I had a q7 and I paid 400$ for it. I swore by roborock I bought 2 other robots trying to fill the void. I randomly bought a dreame on eBay for 799$ (x40 ultra) because it had a warranty. It cleans better avoids objects. Is smart. Bigger battery. Better pickup. Better mopping makes my house smell good I got a huge tank of solution and it dispenses on the mop pads. Roborock owners will tell u that the solution in the water of the revo is better. I can smell the difference between the mopping on dreams my house is beautiful and smells clean. Roborock never did that.

The [dreamed Ultra x40](https://amzn.to/42bhyQv) without a doubt. If not, anything from the line Dreame really make the job done. Take a look, try it, and enjoy the results of a house very well cleaned.

Dreams X40 is the best if you want local control. It’s one of the best by itself, but it is compatible with valetudo as well

I got it and if the price is close I would easily get it over the L20. Right now it’s out of stock on US Amazon, but if I comes back in stock at a price anywhere near the L20 I would pick the Mova. Just make sure it’s the P10 PRO Ultra as it’s very different from the P10 Ultra. If the Mova came back in stock at the same price I bought mine, I would probably return my X40 and get another Mova.

No, that is the one thing it cannot do is drop the mop pads. The mop pads just lift but do not detach. I might have not addressed that but I believe somebody else did here.

Dreame x40 actually detects the poop and sends you a picture of it and avoids it.

I haven’t. Was considering it but went with the Dreame x40. I’ve had too many wifi issues with other Dyson products (fans/purifiers). Admittedly most are older but it made me anxious enough to go with another brand.

Dreame x40 if you want a great vacuum and good mop. S1 Pro is meh at vacuuming

Compra la X40, estoy seguro que la X50 no tiene mucho que ofrecer, yo estoy encantado con la X40 que la use hoy y me llego ayer, mis espectativas no fueron defraudadas, OJO ninguna robot limpiadora va a dejar pulcro un lugar que este muy sucio.

I would just get a dreame X40 or Mova P10 Pro ultra and then you won't have to tidy up at all since they have they best object avoidance while having great vacuum and mopping performance. Makes it easy to run the vacuum on a daily schedule when you can trust the robot to not eat cords and other objects. I run my X40s on a daily schedule, downstairs runs at midnight every night and has not needed any intervention in over 2 weeks and upstairs runs at 5pm and no intervention for close to 3 weeks.

Considering your house is mostly hard floors, the s1 pro is a good choice however it struggles if you have carpet. If you have a mix of carpet and hard floors, I recommend the Dreame X40/L40 as it has significantly better carpet performance and edge cleaning due to the extending side brush. While the S1 pro has very impressive mopping, running a spinning mop style robot on a schedule will keep your floors as clean but one large benefit of the roller mops design in the S1 pro is that it is less likely to trap debris and scratch your floors.

My Dreame x40 goes under the toe kicks and gets all the debris with no issue. I would think the L40 and the Mova P10 pro ultra would also do the same.

I have two Dreame x40s. Probably one of the best robot vacuums from the last generation. The new generation is the Roborock Saros 10R and Dreame X50. As for the x40, I have two of them and they have probably the best object avoidance on the market while also have great cleaning performance. I run them both on a daily schedule and they have no issues cleaning my house without eating cords, cat toys and other random things that end up on the floor. The obstacle avoidance lets me run it daily without having to prep my house. If you have to prep your house, or can't run the robot on a schedule, it makes a robot vacuum a lot less useful. I basically don't have to think about the robot outside of refilling it's water and cleaning the filter. I also tried the QRevo slim but returned it since its obstacle avoidance wasn't as good. It cleaned well, but the Dreame cleaned just as well while having superior object avoidance so kept the Dreame. Since the new generation of robots just came out, I would wait a bit before buying but it looks like the Saros 10R might be one of the best picks right now. The Dreame x50 also looks good but I've heard some issues and bugs with the software but it does have better features like a self cleaning vacuum filter. Either way I would wait a bit for bugs to be ironed out and more reviews to come out.

Dreame X40. Has better vacuum performance than the Eufy s1 on hard floors and carpets. The eufy s1 has a slight edge in mopping but if you run your robot vacuum frequently, you won't notice a difference in your floor cleanliness between the two. Dreame also has a better app experience and actual smart home integration. At normal prices the X40 is far more expensive than the S1 which makes the S1 the better option, but with the X40 being $1000 during black Friday it's the better choice now.

Dreame x40, L40, Mova P10 pro ultra. Mova is a sister brand of dreame and the p10 pro ultra is basically a Dreame x40 with slightly smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the dock, but it usually comes in significantly cheaper than the X40 when on sale. The x40 is probably the best robot vacuum on the market as it has the least compromises out of all the robot vacuums right now. Roborock has atrocious object avoidance so their robots will tend to eat cords, dog toys, socks and other common household objects which forces you to have to prep your house for the robot to run. Eufy has good mopping with their S1 pro but poor vacuum performance. Dreame/Mova have exceptional object avoidance combined with excellent cleaning on carpets and hard floors. Also they can use the Tri-cut brush with significantly cuts down on hair entanglement. I have two x40s right now, pretty happy with it even with some of the issues I've had with it like a really sensitive Cliff Sensor and not being able to spin the side brush on carpet (being resolved right now with a firmware update). No one currently makes a perfect robot vacuum but Dreame/Mova are really close to getting there. The x50 which should be released this year and might be the first "perfect" robot vacuum.

So this is easily one of the most recommended mid priced vacuum because of its perceived value and Eufy really did bring a lot to the table with this product. With Black Friday coming around, people are recommending this vacuum left and right and I wanted to throw my experience with it out into the public. I watched countless reviews from Jamie Andrews, Vacuum Wars and looked around on this subreddit and came to the conclusion that the Eufy X10 might be the best Value robot vacuum with all of its features and decided to purchase my first on on May 10th, 2024 and my second one on June 4th 2024. After 350 hours of cleaning, [127 hours](https://photos.app.goo.gl/iFHv6AbKHnguRaEe7) on my upstairs x10 and [230 hours](https://photos.app.goo.gl/J4325ia8yiUMxzNp9) on my downstairs x10, I can say that the **Eufy X10 performs very poorly** and you are better off spending a little extra on the offerings from Dreame and Roborock. I bought this vacuum because I have 2 cats and some heavy allergies. I previously had 2 Wyze Robot Vacuums and they worked great but they lacked an auto empty system, mopping and didn't have obstacle avoidance which prevented me from running it on a schedule. After the Eufy x10 came out, it had all the things that my Wyze was missing and at a competitive price, undercutting the Qrevo and slightly undercutting the Dreame L10s Ultra when I was shopping around. And it had the best object avoidance which mattered a lot to me so I can run it daily without babysitting it. Ill start with the good things since this is a short list: 1. Mops well, floors feel clean and have stayed clean. For the money this is a great mop and does a great job at keeping our floors residue/dirt free 2. Good obstacle avoidance, I can run the vacuum daily and it works reasonably well avoiding cables, socks and cat toys. It will still eat the occasional sock or cable but it works decently well. 3. Good base station with easy to clean docking tray. The one piece tray is easy to remove and clean. I wish it was self cleaning like some of Dreame's docks but for the price, it is still great. 4. Decent carpet vacuum performance. Our carpets generally feel very clean and the vacuum does a good job at picking up pet hair and debris from carpets. Hard floors is a different story though... 5. Auto empty dock works well and reliably empties the dust bin every time. The dock has had zero malfunctions/issues since ive had it, I put a bit of Shark VacMop cleaner solution in the dirty and clean water tanks to help with cleaning and keep the dirty water tank from gunking up. 6. Eufy support is responsive and responds to tickets promptly and genuinely tries to be helpful And now the negatives: 1. Horrible hard floor performance even on Max suction, 2x Passes and Deep clean pathing. Both of my Eufy X10s have had the same poor performance since day 1 1. Filter clogs easily due to poor dustbin design 2. Brush guard seal wears quickly causing poor seal with hard floors 2. Poor battery life due to having to run the vacuum on max suction, 2x passes and deep cleaning to get any decent performance out of it and long recharge times. 3. Bad pathing, robot will frequently drive in circles, get stuck, refuse to find the base station and clean in a unsystematic manner 4. Non-existent smart home/Home Assistant support **1: Poor Hard floor performance:** [Here is a video](https://photos.app.goo.gl/GpTTrdmmYHRcc8yd7) of it running on a smooth tile floor in Max suction mode, Deep clean pathing and 2x passes. It runs right over the cat litter and **doesn't pick up anything!** [Eufy X10s failing to pick up cat litter on smooth tile floor in max suction mode with a clean filter](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/vtbcyioiml2e1/player) Here are pictures of the clean filter and dustbin prior to sending it to clean that floor. [Eufy X10 dustbin and filter prior to cleaning cat litter on smooth tile](https://preview.redd.it/e5xz2wwvml2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de4cae589e82073b3a1aefb32b12b330630c2ff1) [Eufy X10 Filter prior to cleaning cat litter on smooth tile](https://preview.redd.it/5qihrvwvml2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02cb828046f349da97dc83ae5038977604e00fdd) For comparison, one of my Wyze robot vacuums now lives in my garage cleaning up saw dust, leaves, screws, concrete chunks, washers, road debris and other garage debris. Here is a [Video of the Wyze running in the garage](https://photos.app.goo.gl/nLLJD93Ft8RqdvGS8), compare that to [the video of my x10](https://photos.app.goo.gl/GpTTrdmmYHRcc8yd7) struggling to pick up basic cat litter on a smooth tile floor. [Wyze Robot Vacuum Cleaning metal washers, leaves and other garage debris on an abrasive concrete floor](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/096804e6nl2e1/player) I ran the Wyze 2 times in my garage to see what it could pick up. Here is the debris from the first pass and second pass: [Garage Wyze Robot Vacuum, First Pass](https://preview.redd.it/9c9hfepinl2e1.jpg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=723939bfb739bd0a9c1d2d8a7a405bdfad306bcb) [Garage Wyze Robot Vacuum, Second Pass](https://preview.redd.it/ik4iyfpinl2e1.jpg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d0bf5d5eff749cf817c714c94a4ae3dce0c6c2d) The Wyze could pick up screws, washers and even a ring that my girlfriend lost a few days ago while the Eufy X10 couldn't even pick up cat litter! Also keep in mind that Wyze advertises "2000pa" of suction pressure while Eufy advertises "8000pa". Clearly the pressure ratings mean nothing, what matters is how efficient the filter and brush guard work with the vacuum motor. My experience with the Eufy X10 closely matches what [Rtings.com experienced with the Eufy X10](https://www.rtings.com/robot-vacuum/reviews/eufy/x10-pro-omni). It also matches the experience [Jamie Andrews had on hardfloors](https://youtu.be/ZvRaaol5LFA?si=qPYb846Jo9_K6-l7&t=221). I would like to hear how u/VacuumWars has found his unit has held up over the last few months, does he see similar performance? Edit: Another issue with the poor hard floor suction is that since the vacuum is not able to pick up small debris, there is a very high likelihood that that debris will be captured by the mop which will then rub that [abrasive debris into your floor and scratch them](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1gxe6h9/scratches_on_floor_from_eufy_x10/). All spinning mop vacuums are at risk of doing this, but the X10 is very susceptible to this since it fails to pick up small debris most of the time. **1.1: Poor dustbin/filter design** So one of the issues likely contributing to the poor hard floor performance is the bad design of the dustbin and filter. Here is what my downstairs (80% hard floor) x10 filter looked like 1 week after replacing it and running it daily: [Downstairs Eufy X10 13 Cleaning Hours after replacement](https://preview.redd.it/782cdr8pll2e1.jpg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53002d834f6d76490ff1a5c98480ef8498dd3ac4) Keep in mind I have been running both of my Eufy X10s daily for the past few months so my floors are relatively clean, I also clean the filter weekly and replace it monthly. Here is the upstairs (90% carpet) x10 filter: [Upstairs Eufy X10s Filter 7 CleaningHours after replacement on 90% Carpet floors](https://preview.redd.it/10h2w9dtnl2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=777b5bb6663fa8026affe997d3c15e436c65fed3) In a sense, its good that the filter is catching this dust as the vacuum is able to capture it, but the issue is that the mesh screen is doing nothing to keep the filter from clogging. For comparison, here is what my Garage Wyze filter looks like after 5 cleaning cycles, keep in mind this vacuum lives in a garage picking up a lot of nasty things and its an actual [HEPA filter](https://www.wyze.com/products/wyze-robot-vacuum-consumable-hepa-filter): [Wyze HEPA filter after 5 garage vacuum sessions](https://preview.redd.it/e9dsseaynl2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5400855d3298cd1a2e414c2de1a52d7119370842) So why the large difference between the two? I think one reason is the mesh screen in the Eufy x10 is much larger allowing most particles through the bin and onto the filter while the Wyze has a much finer mesh and a HEPA rating, it also has a much larger dustbin than the Eufy x10. A possible solution for Eufy to implement is redesigning the bin so that when the Auto-empty cycle runs, have some air run backwards through the filter so that the dock can "vacuum" out the filter with each cycle. This would significantly extend the lifetime of the filter. **1.2: Poor quality brush guard** This is another issue that is likely contributing to the poor hard floor performance. The brush guard is a maintenance part according to Eufy and it has a rubber flap on it that aids with sealing the suction path to the floor: Here is how mine looked 1 week after replacing it: [Downstairs Eufy X10 Brush Guard 1 week after replacing it](https://preview.redd.it/2rk4phq4ll2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=446c85907ce1ea7854f85c0a034fe162b486600e) As you can see, its mangled up and tearing up. Prior to replacing i, that flap was completely gone. My Wyze robot vacuum also has a similar flap but its significantly more durable and has held up fine on the abrasive garage floor. Eufy lists the brush guard as a Consumable item replaced with standard maintenance and costs $13.99. I have a suspicion this is something they will not fix as they make money selling this part. For now I have used a piece of duct tape folded over itself sticking out exactly as far as the original part. Eufy claims this part should last 120hours, but mine degraded after 1-2 weeks which for me is \~20-30hours of runtime. My duct tape solution has been holding up fine and has helped the vacuum slightly with hard floor pickup. My Wyze brush guard has never been replaced and ive owned it for 2 years. It has zero sign of degradation and Wyze doesn't sell it as a consumable....wonder why... **2: Poor battery life** This is an issue also slightly related to the hard floor performance. The only way I can get decent performance out of my X10s is running them on Max suction mode, 2x Passes and Deep clean pathing. Without those settings, the vacuum will just push debris like rice around and not pick it up. This results in the battery draining like crazy. [Downstairs Area and Cleaning Time](https://preview.redd.it/vscnsy2all2e1.png?width=1344&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c25beb2e2a9dd41318cfd6834e5c7ef2691153b) My downstairs area is 473sqft according to the app and the app says it took 1hr 50mins to clean it in Max Suction, 2x Passes on hard floors, and Deep Cleaning Pathing. What it doesn't mention is that it started cleaning at 13:00 (1PM) and it cleaned for 1 hour and 15 mins. At which point its battery was depleted. **It then charged for 4 hours and resumed cleaning at 6pm!** It couldn't even do 500sqft in one charge! On top of that, the only carpeted rooms are the Living and Study room, even on "Max Suction" the eufy uses less suction on hard floors compared to the carpets, if the robot ran on "true" max suction on the hard floors, I doubt it could even do 100sqft without needing to charge. **3: Bad Pathing and Planning** This issue was worse when I first got the vacuum in late spring/early summer 2024 but it still persists. While the X10 is pretty good at avoiding most obstacles, when it gets stuck, its usually in the same place each cycle. My carpeted area in the living room is slightly sunken from the "main area" and I built a ramp for the robot to use to get down to the living room. My Wyze robot vacuum would use it flawlessly and it doesn't even have a camera. The Eufy x10 was pretty good about using the ramp when I first got it but it seems updates have regressed its behavior: [Video of Eufy X10 Getting stuck on ramp and repeating same action over and over again instead of changing strategy](https://photos.app.goo.gl/q5ECiQALp2bNPadw8). [Video of eufy X10 getting stuck in a corner for no reason and not backing up](https://photos.app.goo.gl/vMXagQazTBNR7Ueh6) [Video of Eufy X10 getting stuck on ramp and repeating same action over and over again instead of changing strategy](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/4hy5t47kpl2e1/player) [Eufy X10 getting stuck in a corner for no reason and not backing up](https://reddit.com/link/1gxu13s/video/rgktto9rpl2e1/player) **4: Non-Existent Smart Home/Home Assistant Integration** There is zero Home Assistant support for the Eufy X10. Dreame, and Roborock both have integrations for Home Assistant and you can even install [Valetudo ](https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots.html)on some Dreames and Roborocks for full local control. Even my Wyze has a home assistant integration because Wyze has an API for developers. Eufy on the other hand does not have any smart home integration and from what it seems like, no API for developers for the X10 and newer vacuums. [There is this thread on Github](https://github.com/CodeFoodPixels/robovac/issues/68) where some people are trying to get the X10 working but its been up in the air since March 21st. I filed a ticket with Eufy asking for a home assistant integration and they said they appreciate the feedback and received this response on September 22nd 2024: >....we understand your request for better integration with Home Assistant and acknowledge the current limitations with Google Assistant. We are continuously working to improve our app's compatibility and will keep your suggestions in mind for future updates. Its been over 2 months since that and no updates still to enable any sort of Home Assistant support. This is a very crucial feature for me as I would use my smart switches to call for the vacuum to clean a certain room. For example, I would triple tap my kitchen light switch to request my Wyze vacuum to clean my kitchen. For a company as big as Eufy, releasing a smart robot vacuum in 2024 with zero smart home support is pitiful. **Conclusion** So its not looking good for the X10 in my opinion. My comparisons may not be 100% scientific like Vaccum Wars, Jaime Andrews and Rtings performs, but my findings do closely line up with what Jaime Andrews and Rtings have found with regards to Hard Floor cleaning performance. Its great when a robot vacuum can do all sorts of things like mopping floors, avoiding obstacles and auto emptying, but one thing it should definitely be able to do is, **vacuum**! The Eufy X10 falls very short in that aspect on Hard Floors and I wish I could return both of my units and get a Dreame L10S Ultra or Roborock Qrevo instead. I may start a warranty claim on both of my robots due to the poor performance, some people are saying their X10s have been working great, but in the many hours I have ran my X10s, they have not performed well. And while the rest of you are looking around at reviews on this subreddit and elsewhere, please keep in mind that this [subreddit is very frequently astroturfed ](https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/comments/1g9gn00/yall_notice_that_half_the_posts_on_this_subreddit/)and there manufacturers are known for paying for reviews. Sources like Rtings, Vacuum Wars and Jaime Andrews are known for purchasing vacuums with their own money but almost all reviewers post affiliate links in their descriptions for the products they review, whether you think that affects how they might portray a product is up to your interpretation. TLDR: The Eufy X10 sucks (but actually it doesn't suck anything up on hard floors) Edit: Typos, Punctuation Edit 12/22/2024: I have completed a warranty return with Eufy. They took back both of my used Eufy X10s and partially refunded me for both vacuums. They refunded me 50% of my purchase price for my first X10 and 70% my purchase price of the second X10. This is understandable considering I purchased my robot vacuums in May/June. Overall their return process was very smooth and customer support was top notch. After seeing my videos of the robot failing to pickup cat litter, they quickly got me a shipping label to RMA the product. When I asked if I can just get refunded, they didn't hesitate to provide me a refund offer without resistance. Overall, top notch customer service and I will continue to keep Eufy in my mind for future robot vaccuums. I hope they are able to fix the design flaws of the X10 and provide a competitive product with flagship features at a low price with the X11 or whatever is next. Till then, I have purchased 2x Dreame X40s to replace my Eufy X10s, both perform significantly better but have some issues of their own which I will detail in my eventual review of the X40. But overall happy with the X40. [Cat Tax](https://preview.redd.it/xdr5ji6tkl2e1.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f4a48afb795fa5af014890e1cd0d432cbe46057)

Skip Roborock if you want good obstacle avoidance. Their robots are mediocre at it compared to Dreame and the S1 pro. Get the Mova P10 pro ultra, it's basically a Dreame x40 with a smaller battery and missing the ability to leave the mop pads at the base station. It's obstacle avoidance is just as good and it's $679 on Amazon right now. I have two Dreame X40s, great vacuums, never get stuck on obstacles or eat cords/cat toys. Cleans my house well and does a good job getting embedded dust out of my carpets and debris off my hard floors. The Mova P10 pro ultra is basically going to be the same but at a much lower price (Mova is a sister/subbrand of Dreame) I had a QRevo slim and it was horrible at obstacle avoidance. Cleaned as well as the Dreame X40 but it would eat cords and socks and felt like the obstacle avoidance is useless. I bought the slim since it supposedly has the best obstacle avoidance of the Roborocks but it just isn't consistent or reliable to trust running it on a schedule. I want a robovac that I can run on a schedule without having to prep my home. The S1 pro is a good robot if you have hard floors only, but it's vacuum performance is bad compared to the Dreame and roborock. Most of the debris will be picked up by the spinning mop and end up in the mop filter and not the dust bin. It also lags bending on carpet performance versus Dreame and roborock and doesn't have an extending side brush.

S7 maxv is a $1000 robot while the l10S is a $400 robot. Compare the S7 maxv against the X30 or the X40 and you will find that the Dreame blows roborock out of the water, it's not even close. The QRevo slim is rated as having the best obstacle avoidance of all the roborocks and I purchased one because of that, in my real world testing on carpet and hard floors, it is significantly worse than the Dreame X40 and even my old Eufy x10. So maybe it's the best Roborock but that really isn't a high bar to pass.

Fair enough. In that case it looks like Dreame made a huge improvement with object avoidance with the introduction of their "X" series like the X30 and X40. Considering the QRevo slim is Roborock's best object avoidance offering, the S8 does do worse than it and by extension the S7 is last gen tech. Looking at all the comparisons, most rank the Slim above the S8 and the S7 and then the X40 is well beyond the Slim. It's a shame because roborock would be the best choice if their object avoidance actually was reliable and consistent.

Dreame l10S or l20 if you are trying to save money Dreame x30 if you have a little more money to spend Dreame X40/L40 if you want the best. If you only have hardfloors, the Eufy S1 pro I also like the QRevo Slim if you want something from Roborock but I am disappointed with its Object avoidance capabilities when compared to Dreame and Eufy. Roborock in general is quite trash at obstacle avoidance and it makes it hard for me to trust their vacuums to run on a schedule without having to babysit them but their hardware is solid and reliable. Skip the Eufy x10 that so many shills like. It's got a lot of features that look good but in reality they aren't very well implemented. I had two of them and Eufy partially refunded me for both of them due to my experience with them. Good customer support, but a bad vacuum design that struggles to pick up anything on hardfloors. For the same money I would get a Dreame l10S or L20 instead. I posted my full review here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RobotVacuums/s/AVD9Ph2eHK

Thanks for reviewing it! I was curious of this X50... I had the X40 for some weeks and returned it due to their poor support and subpar performance. I'm sure Dreame isn't honest with the kPa's and other figures. A Q8 performs much better being 1/3 of the price. I might go for a Roborock S9 when it gets released.

I bought the Dreame X50 Pro from China and have been using it. This is not sponsored at all, I bought it completely with my own money. https://preview.redd.it/ftsik64hz9be1.jpg?width=1780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03a47133d3ce92cbecd6d72d8d95b5226b3022f3   So, I wanted to give my overall thoughts and will try to give a somewhat detailed review. There was no lab testing, but I did try to do a couple of ‘lab like’ tests. This was done in a 4-bedroom 1 story house with no pets or dogs. I also got the version with the clean water and dirty water tubs (the standard) because the version that connects to the water pipes wouldn't suit my house layout at all. I’ve never owned a Dreame before and my last Roborock was many years ago.   Some new features:   \-Double brush design \-Dustbin compression for Pets (If there is pet hair in the house, it will try to limit how much space is used in the dustbin via compression). \-Retracting Lidar to access low areas \-Electrolyzed water (Pro/Ultra versions only) - This is a good feature if you live in a country with 'hard' water as this can affect longevity of these devices. \- Self-cleaning Filter \- Self-cleaning tray \- Ability to lift at high heights (I didn’t test this as I have no value in it and majority of you probably don’t either).     ***Vacuum design: 8.5/10*** The vacuum looks very slick and modern. The retracting lidar with the different coloured LED is also a very nice touch, so I will give them props for this design. I will talk about functionality later on. https://preview.redd.it/2b1bjaij1abe1.jpg?width=2905&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a6fef8b9bedab0a0e5beb6034e89262af94ad0b ***Dock Design: 8.5/10*** It feels very premium and looks like the X40 dock design. One of the main differences is the full removal tray is no more! And you only have a small filter tray that is removal. I’m sure some will be disappointed by this change but one of the features of the X50 is that it cleans its own tray and so far, I’ve found that to be true, after multiple cleans, the tray still looks spotless. However, it has now been a very similar design for a few editions of the top model for the dock, so I feel it is time for Dreame to take a bit of a risk and change it up for the x60 in the future. That is why I'm giving it an 8.5/10 because the dock looks good, but it’s the same design. In terms of functionality, I’d give it a 10/10. It did a good job cleaning the mops for example, so I tested it with some coffee powder and here are the **before:** https://preview.redd.it/jrf6fbs3babe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95ee636660f702b6e1c5600ca5b04e0ce4f2e5e6 **after** https://preview.redd.it/gyjneuh5babe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78234d597d5aaf1274696e5b06145fe8caf18856 Overall, pretty good job.   ***Brush design/anti-tangle: 10/10***   https://preview.redd.it/y6h3q61v2abe1.jpg?width=2825&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3961f0bb9708417ea6aabdaa0af8661dfd208c3b I live in a family full of females with very long hair, after multiple passes of the house, I’ve seen 0 hair getting caught in the brushes, so 10/10 for that one.   ***Self-cleaning filter: 6/10***   This is one of the features that was mentioned for the X50, and it sounds great in theory. I tested it after cleaning up instant coffee powder, it did remove most of it: **before:** https://preview.redd.it/72or0croz9be1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6f82d6b34d5a6b665c8ad76aa9cb17a41ad7d58 **after:** https://preview.redd.it/oy07m2hsz9be1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29be14b13752d86fc76a9b526e15dff2a63548b9 I wouldn’t say the filter has been thoroughly cleaned though and will likely require manual cleaning very soon. I also tried it on yellow sand and once again, it did clean the filter somewhat: I'd say the results are worse here. **before:** https://preview.redd.it/j4e7tn4yz9be1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84e0bae076c50905d704b122088a1a7296ee46c3 **after:** https://preview.redd.it/accwedq00abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49a7d9658cfd60b806f89189ca2e3e1e75e5a3df but it wasn’t anything too significant. So, that’s why I gave it a 6/10 as it is a neat idea and has potential, but right now it is okay and slightly delays manual cleaning of the filter.   ***Self-cleaning tray: 10/10***   https://preview.redd.it/izcundz50abe1.jpg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5ef0e1209a1f901b9de85a7b1b9eef8205315c0 The new design is very good, I did not have to clean it at all during its use and I likely will never have to clean it again. So, good job to Dreame on this one as it is definitely an amazing feature. There is a small filter tray in the middle that picks up debris and it just has to be emptied every so often.     ***Retracting lidar: 6.5/10***   Design wise, it is a slick design, and the different LED colours are a neat touch. You have different settings for how cautious you want it to be in this feature. https://preview.redd.it/o68jellv8abe1.jpg?width=1115&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f56c0065e2a5e01cec04d7c565913513891ba380 I tested it on a couch that has a high enough area underneath that it should be able to clean under it. The results were it using the retracting lidar in the beginning of the couch https://preview.redd.it/i1ih74z73abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=838598a422fb1210d9b8f8a7e95d1fca665f5411 However completely refusing to go any further despite there clearly being enough room + setting it on the least cautious option. That’s why I’m giving it a 6.5/10, right now it is way too overly cautious and I hope Dreame can improve this via firmware updates.   ***Battery life: 5/10***   This is the most major disappointing aspect of the vacuum. Essentially 1% = 1 minute of use (on Clean Genius). You have around 90-100 minutes of use with a full battery, which is significantly less than the industry standard. I wouldn't say the vacuum is any faster than other brands in cleaning the house, so I can't justify it by saying it is quicker at navigating through the house, in fact it is sometimes slower in certain environments (Which I will talk about later). This is probably the biggest glaring issue with the vacuum and should be noted. However, if you plan to go to work at 8-9, let it start vacuuming and come back at 5-6 then you should be okay. For example, I started it at 8:45am and it finished at 4:45pm. The whole house area cleaned was around 121m\^2 and this was on Clean Genius (no deep cleaning).   ***Carpet performance: 8/10***   So, in terms of carpet performance, it does pick up most things on the ground but, it does miss a few things including the sides of the room (Just unfortune limitation of most Robot Vacuums due to shape). I’m seeing multiple small pieces that it should pick up on the carpet + tiles and the sides are just full of small pieces. I feel this is because the FlexiArm is not used well in these situations when it comes to sides of rooms with carpet. I even set it (The FlexiArm) to the highest frequency via the app but I still had the small issue. Another thing I ran into was if there was 'stubborn' dust that is really stuck onto the carpet, it fails to really clean the majority of it. I thought the 20k kPa suction power would be enough, but no it isn't anywhere near enough. Also, it does this thing where let's say it vacuums just the carpet for 30 minutes, it will go back to "wash the mops" even though the mops were not used at all. I also notice the mops are dragging along the carpet to the point it somewhat distorts the shape of the mops, but luckily the carpet does not become even a little 'wet' at all due to this. One example of this is that I did one test where it was on carpet with Coffee Powder (Had issues, so will not bother talking about these results) and the mops were all stained after the test despite it not being used at all since it is on carpet: https://preview.redd.it/tqhgo8464abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99651bc5d9b7faecafd9f64e407418c534ff253f I did some carpet cleaning tests with Yellow Sand and here are the results: **before:** https://preview.redd.it/yfi97jqg3abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45048354b1909403e3912967c441fd8061239f48 **after:** https://preview.redd.it/0ziujigi3abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3cb5180a42ca99b2373acd2823d93851fae6371 This was just 1 run, so overall I’d say it did a very good job and probably would have gotten the last little bit after a second run. Here is a map of the cleanup: https://preview.redd.it/eafzt6k26abe1.jpg?width=490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccb7bbbcf5d1cf4fc6b1f638a12d33c36f45c06c   ***Mopping performance: 7/10***   The mopping is solid, the tiles come off as clean after a run and the extended mop makes sure every spot is covered. It does miss some small pieces of dust, but the FlexiArm is a lot more active on this surface and it does usually pick them up. The only negative is that the amount of water is uses can be high, but this can be changed via the settings. It does use the auto detergent, but considering it is 1:200 dilution, you will not notice the difference vs normal water. I tried testing the mopping  via the use of Coffee Powder on the ground to see how it deals with a situation like that. https://preview.redd.it/og8z2k1s4abe1.jpg?width=2482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2159c0a5663c0157449228d38d818f84745f7f48 It has a stain recognition + large particles setting in the app: https://preview.redd.it/ve9ssm3x4abe1.jpg?width=1115&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43bc9e0eaf65fe859af077a68c1b953ab768fccb It genuinely did a good job at the start, it recognised the stained areas and so it paid more attention to them: https://preview.redd.it/dam9xy855abe1.jpg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40260a1a7e0ad0a258831990e6639c3b9bb784d5 I was happy with its performance until around 30% left, when it decided to start mopping with Coffee Powder present and so you got this: https://preview.redd.it/t6y8ovta5abe1.jpg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed98c3ac1ca51d0f31ffaad9a62ccd9e89f08268 The Coffee Powder was just attached to the ground at this point, so couldn’t continue the test anymore and probably would have been better using something else. However, large amounts of pieces were still on the ground but it is my fault for using Coffee Powder to do this test, it wasn't a good choice. It does fine in every day situations.   ***Obstacle avoidance: 9/10***   The obstacle avoidance is very good, it avoids everything and recognises everything ALMOST right. This includes cables, small objects like a white toy pen that I couldn't even see on the carpet until it told me about it. The screenshot qualities are not great, but good enough that you will know what is in the way. However, the reason it isn't 10/10 is because it does have false positives at times especially on carpets with patterns on them, but sometimes it does correct itself and recognise there is no obstacle there later on. Also, it will recognise obstacles in the wrong part of the room sometimes, so it will ‘avoid’ it in the middle of the room when the actual obstacle is at the end of the room.   ***Navigation: 7/10***   Overall, navigation is alright. If you have an open area with little obstacles. However, if you have things like a table with chairs that does not have a lot of room, few tall sofas closely together (where the robot vacuum can go under and clean), it struggles quite a bit to be honest and takes significantly longer than it should. It will also sometimes form random circles on the carpet, but this has gotten less after recent firmware updates. It also got stuck in one specific area, where there is a higher and lower carpet close to each other next to a wall even though it  should easily be able to get out of the situation, it just gives up and says there is an issue with the wheels (when there isn't). However, it was limited to that area only and I didn't experience this anywhere else. I would also say very tight spaces, it is not fantastic with, but I'm talking spaces barely bigger than itself so this is understandable. I forgot to mention, within 1 hour I see a massive white line across the vacuum, so it bumps into things (gently) and will do 360s when it is close to things such as well. I bought some thin PE foam tape and put it around the vacuum (avoiding sensors, cameras etc) and this resolved this issue but that 1 white line still remains.   ***FlexiArm: 6.5/10*** I completely forgot about this one, but I did mention it in the other sections, I'd say it does overall alright job on non-carpet area but could be better used on carpet to cover the sides and should be turned on more frequently. ***Maintenance: 9/10***   Pretty straightforward maintenance overall. Empty dirty water, re-fill the clean water, re-fill the auto detergent etc. The self-cleaning filter is 50/50 but the self-cleaning tray is amazing and does a really good job. Where it loses points for me is that I feel the cover where the auto detergent and dust bin are placed can be a lot more user friendly and easier to put back in. It required me doing it a few times before it finally sat properly. The app tells you when and what to replace over time as well, which is very nice.   ***App experience: 7.5/10***   I'll keep this section short; it is a pretty good app and gets too much hate at times (outside certain firmware updates). It has a ton of features and is overall user friendly. I did run into one issue where when 90% of my house was vacuumed + mopped and this resulted in the app becoming very laggy, which is definitely an issue.   ***Things I cannot/did not test:***   Longevity - Only had it for a short period. Pet use - There are specific features it has to help with pets, but I don't have pets so any testing related to pets I can't discuss at all. I can't test the voice commands (including via Alexa and Google) + AI voice features because it is the Chinese version. Lift feature – No interest at all in this.  Electrolyzed water - I wouldn't even know where to begin in terms of testing it.   Overall, I'd be lying to you if I said I was blown away by its performance, it has issues that need addressing that were mentioned above + the price it will be released at is likely going to make it likely the most expensive Robot Vacuum on the market once it is released, so I can't justify the price tag at that price (Probably $1900-2000 USD before discounts). However, I bought it for $650-700 USD (excluding additional costs to get it working here) so for that price, it was probably worth it. If you have the X40, I'd recommend saving your money and passing on this one unless you have pets then I'd look into the new features or If you feel the self-cleaning options etc are worth it. If you want a rating out of 10, I'd say it is a 7.5/10.     \*\*tl;dr\*\*   Overall, decent vacuum but has poor battery life (1 minute use = 1%), navigation can be iffy if complicated layout but otherwise does well, carpet performance + mopping is good but nothing mind blowing. New features like retracting lidar is too overly cautious, self-cleaning filter is okay, but the self-cleaning tray is extremely good. If you have X40, skip this one unless you want the pet features and/or retracting lidar. The self-cleaning stuff maybe a selling point for some as well. 7.5/10

In Australia, the X50 will not be released until like late 2025, let's be honest. So, x40 is a very good option.

No problem at all. Yeah x40 should work great for you.

While I agree that for many X40 --> X50 is not a massive upgrade, I disagree that it can be considered a downgrade. The double brush design with amazing anti tangle properties, the self cleaning tray, the retracting lidar, the auto detergent that is used on the floor cleaning (as opposed to just washing the mops). If you own pets, this is a decent upgrade for example. If you have rooms with high thresholds, this is a good upgrade. It just depends on your needs, but let's say it is between x40 for 1/2 the price of x50 and you are just an average user then I'd probably say save your money and get the x40.

I hated the ever so confused Dreame x40. It would leave rolled up hair everywhere since day one and never know where it's going. It's favorite thing to do other than getting lost and making doobies, is getting stuck.

I have tile floors and use an X40 master on the highest water setting and don't experience any streaking that I have noticed. Measuring mop effectiveness is no doubt challenging but if your floor doesn't streak then high water usage isn't really a penalty and actually is a good thing since it cleans much better.

>Since the new generation of robots just came out, I would wait a bit before buying I think now is a perfect time to buy an X40 at a discount. I just bought a Dreame X40 "refurbished" for $800. There's nothing on the X50 or Saros 10R over the X40 that is appealing to me, so the extra $500-1000 was not worth it. I've only had mine a couple of weeks but I'm loving it so far. It's far better than the Ecovavs I had before. The mopping and vacuuming performance have been great and it's much better at avoiding obstacles and the thresholds setting in the app helps it get over some places my Ecovavs would fail on. The X40 also integrates beautifully with Home Assistant too with the HACS integration.

Thanks for this review, I own the X40 and I don't see any reason to switch to the X50 as of now. FOr some reason it looks like the X50 may be a downgrade. I wish they didn't change so much and simply improved on the X40 by adding the retractable lidar sensor and adding the height feature to go over taller saddles in between rooms which is actually a great features for many homes FYI.

I actually ended up with 2 X40, after buying one, dreame sent me one to test. I think its hands down the best all around option right now, especially once you hook it up to the water line and drain, i run it daily in our house and we got rid of our cleaning help because of it. The X50 price will drop to 1k within a few months like the X40 did and no one should pay the 2k premium price.

For me, the one to beat is the Dreame X40. Rock solid performance. I hope it holds up as long as my pair or Roborock S5's did.

Not a single best list / review I've seen actually deals with fully carpeted homes as is common in the UK. In addition, homes are 100 years old and have steps everywhere. I want a top of the line one but it has to work perfectly when lifted up and dumped into a space without having access to its little base. It therefore needs a decent bin size as fluffy carpets full those things up very quickly. I tried an X40 and it was AMAZING in the bathroom, which is tiled. But it sucked everywhere else cause it couldn't hoover close enough to the walls (the horizontal spinning thing does nothing when everything is carpet) so there was always a foot along the walls where it wouldnt hoover. In addition, if you carry it to the next floor / room / whatever to hoover, it would fill up and not tell you about it cause its not used to being on full carpet all day long. Anyone got good recommendations for a top end vacuum (mopping also nice) that works perfectly well when being carried around room to room and on fully carpeted surfaces?

Dreame X40 or X50 both do a great job with carpet and hard floors in my home.

Dreame X40 is similar to the unreleased (in) Western market Roborock V20 (minus retractable top), which should be the next flagship Roborock to launch. Superior to the S8 Ultra/Maxv in every way. I have an S8 I regret buying, and an X40 on the way.

Well the only real way to manage such cat fur is with a real vacuum like a miele or Sebo. My Miele compactifies months of kitty crumbs & fur like a champ (no cotton candy fur effect here). I use a dreame l10s ultra as my robot. I don't rely on the robot doing deep carpet cleans as I real vacuum about once a week but the dreame has been excellent with kitty floor and my long thick hair (with the dreame cutting brush). The q revo curv is the best robot money can buy right now so ofc that's the best recommendation. I like the dreame better for tighter margins and being more intrepid about mopping next to rugs. Get the dreame x40 master if you can afford it and do the water hookup as the water hookup is one of the final frontiers for a hands free robot. The dreame l10s ultra is sufficient and can empty its bin regularly to deal with kitty floof, but running it everyday should avoid any bin clogs. I would say the dreame l10s pro ultra is worth getting for hot water and water dirtiness sensor (advanced new mopping features). If you want the most advanced vacuum features get the roborock q revo curv. Checkout vacuumwars for feature comparisons and checkout RTINGS for some more grounded opinions. Overall stick with dreame and Roborock. They're repairable with great customer service and parts availability. One thing, the roborocks are SIGNIFICANTLY quieter than the dreames, but Pepperoni doesn't mind the dreame running. The Miele is ofc quieter than the robots on max power tho. Overall a robot is an amazing, indispensable companion to a bagged vacuum in a pet home! With my robot running multiple times daily, I almost never feel the need to "on demand" vacuum anymore.

Yea I won't name the company but one big company just emailed me last night and told me to change the pascal rating from their own marketing material and up it by 1k! It is just BS. Yea I have new testing equipment for the hot water mop washing which will allow me to data log the entire wash cycle. I think is a borderline marketing scam as well. The Dreame X40 hit its peak temp for one second and only produced hot water (above 100F) for 20 seconds out of 2.5 minutes. Atleast they hit their peak though. Many others don't. Hot water would be effective with mopping, but my tests show no noticeable difference with cleaning stains from mopping pads.

I’ve just started using dreame x40 does a great job, honestly life changing. Quick and very quiet (52dB on hard wood floors) except when at base station cleaning mop pads. I bought from a store who will deal with warranty issues rather than direct from Dreame (who are known for difficult customer service)

Get the dreame x40 refurb on eBay for $880

X40 if you care about edges and corners.