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NeoAir XTherm NXT MAX Sleeping Pad

Therm-a-Rest - NeoAir XTherm NXT MAX Sleeping Pad

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"I had mine staked down in packed sand during a rainstorm that dropped 1.5”-2” per hour for 3 hours according to a ranger station nearby and it took it like a champ."


"My old Breville lasted 10-11 years ... I got the new one 3 years ago with the air fryer option … if it breaks tomorrow I would figure out how to get it again - I seriously love it."


"after heavy and extreme and I mean extreme use in a very dirty environment, after a year the range suddenly cut down... I felt like I'd gotten my measly 20ish buck worth from them and didn't fault jlab due to the extreme circumstances I used them in daily. ... I work in a hot asa filthy steel mill and the fact they lasted a year was impressive to me."

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"I sleep all night and no body aches."


"I side sleep and roll around all night and don’t hit the ground with my hips. ... I am 6’4” and was weighing 250 for most of my use of that mat. Hence why I don’t mind an extra pound for a comfortable sleep at night. I am weighing 220 now and don’t touch the ground at all with the mat partially deflated."


"I'm a side sleeper and these things are an absolute godsend. Once they're in, I don't feel a thing."

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"I had a Big Agnes for a decade. ... It sprung a leak on a trip this time last year. ... I found the leak on a seam and called to ask about repairing it. ... They asked for a pic, which I sent as well as a pic of the valve cut off (per their instructions) and my new pad arrived in a few days. No charge. ... I’ll never buy a pad from a different manufacturer again."


"if they fail (which out of all the matt's ive had over the years are the most reliable) the customer service is second to none, you will get a replacement."


"For me the thermarest warranty has been worth its weight in gold ... every interaction I’ve had with them has been amazing, no questions asked replacement or repair"

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"I can take it down to like 25-30F very comfortably."


"Pads like the Xtherm (with good convective heat loss mechanisms) outperform pads like the Tensor XC (minimal convectove eat loss mechanisms) even though the Tensor XC has a higher tested rvalue. ... Stevens testing reinforces what I have also been seeing in the field while testing dozens of pads in every temperature possible. ... The other issue is that companies are designing to max the ASTM standard and "taking advantage of" the hole in the standard in order to push really high r-values that don't hold up when you're all of a sudden in air temps of -40."


"I slept on a simple switchback in 7°F weather last month on Hagerman Pass in Colorado... It was warm enough."

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"The new NXT version isn't as loud as its predecessors."


"Me and my dad both have the Thermarest NeoAir Xlite (the newest and more quiet version). We both sleep insanly good on them"


"It’s not that loud at all since it’s the newer version"

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"Me too. And I use Apple Airpods. $$$$$"


"$179 is pretty nuts. ... As long as people keep buying them and paying the esports tax, they're gonna keep selling them at this crazy price. ... The G305 feels really similar, but at 1/3 the price. ... I don't truely understand why the G pro light is all the rage. ... I used a G pro for a week, and while it did feel very smooth and responsive, I also had a G305 that felt very similar."


"overpriced and don't ever prove the price difference in sound over the az100."

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"It does NOT handle the Florida heat at all. ... Constant shutdowns while driving and parked have rendered it absolutely useless. ... Viofo's solution? Kick it down to 1080 / 2k and hope works. It did not. ... The camera is seriously flawed."


"the xtherm sucks in hot summer."


"When you put the rain cover on top it blocks all of the openings leaving very little air flow. ... When it is hot at night it’s pretty miserable in there. ... The only thing you can unzip is the front door to the porch and if it rains that night congrats you are hot AND wet."

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"It is narrow, 51 cm, and although I am thin and not tall, I wake up minimum 10 times a night and often my body or legs ends up on the bottom of the tent because I simply fall off the pad."


"It is very slippery, and although I am thin and not tall, I wake up minimum 10 times a night and often my body or legs ends up on the bottom of the tent because I simply fall off the pad."


"I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. ... I sleep like shit on the NeoAir. I wake up multiple times every night off the pad, slide around, bottom out and my body hurts in the morning."

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"Both times I’ve hiked the PCT my thermarests have popped in the desert . ... My first one had multiple holes and was a write-off."


"Inflatables take a lot of babying, they often get holes. ... If a pad pops once every 10 weeks, you’ll have to replace the pad at least twice on a thruhike. Of course, some pads don’t pop, it’s just that they often do pop or leak at some point. I don’t want to spend 100-200 dollars on something that’s gonna fail after a couple weeks. ... “ often they do pop or leak at some point” meaning most pads will pop eventually. Once it pops or leaks, even if it’s once, the pad has failed and it doesn’t effectively function unless repaired or replaced. ... Based on anecdotal personal evidence, which of course isn’t a great measure, a lot of pads pop or leak without making it through a full thruhike. One failure is too many for me. There’s no other piece of gear, besides socks and shoes, that fail as often as pads. ... I’ve had one fail in as little as 2 days and I currently have one that has yet to fail after like 70 nights🤷‍♂️."


"leaked out the valve all through Washington, leaving me on the ground multiple times per night, waking me up every hour or so."

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"it's so ridiculously loud I can't use it!"


"Only real con is that this thing is CRINKLY ... definitely the loudest pad I've used ... would honestly be a dealbreaker"


"potato chip bag noise effects"

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0dteSPYFDs • 4 months ago

I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. I’d take a CCF over a Thermarest. For trips where I want an inflatable over a CCF, I just got a Nemo Tensor since they’re on sale at REI (25% off). At least in store, it felt a lot better than my NeoAir or CCF.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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0dteSPYFDs • 4 months ago

Seems like a great all around option. A little heavier than I would like on because I need a long/wide, but I sleep like shit on the NeoAir. I wake up multiple times every night off the pad, slide around, bottom out and my body hurts in the morning. The CCF pad I have is better, but also not warm enough a lot of the time.

r/Ultralight • Sleeping Pad Choice ->
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1ntrepidsalamander • 8 months ago

Personally (I’m in my 40s and a side sleeper) an Xtherm or Xlite is one of my favorite purchases. But everyone has different needs. I’m a fan of not buying new things until you actually need them. Or you are sure that your goals will outgrow your gear. A cheap inflatable is definitely not worth it.

r/Ultralight • Is it worth it to invest in an inflatable sleeping pad? ->
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1ntrepidsalamander • 7 months ago

If you have something you’re happy with, decline to participate in outdoor culture’s fascination with over consumption. That said, getting an expensive XTherm pad completely changed the range of temps I’m stoked to be out in.

r/CampingandHiking • Is an expensive sleeping pad worth it? My pool float beat the cheap ones. ->
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1ntrepidsalamander • 11 months ago

It depends on your conditions. I have a full length Xtherm for 40f nights but the half sized Xlite (now discontinued?) for 60f nights. It’s great, good weight savings. Sometimes put my backpack under my feet, but generally I’m not that fussy.

r/Ultralight • Anyone here use a too short sleeping pad? ->
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1ntrepidsalamander • 4 months ago

The Xtherm was a total game changer for me. The warmth from the reflective technology makes a huuuge difference

r/WildernessBackpacking • How much better are “nice” sleeping pads? ->
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1ntrepidsalamander • 7 months ago

15F frequently or “just in case”? This is my set up: Xtherm Thermarest, 0F Enlightened Equipment Enigma (bought in 2021, I’ve heard their quality is decreasing), 90gsm alpha fleece sleeping layer. SMD’s Gatewood Cape , which offers minimal heat trapping. I feel good to 20F. I’d be uncomfortable but ok at 15F. If my tarp isn’t cutting the wind well enough, I’ll also sleep in my rain layers. There’s no one “true”/“best” way. It’s going to depend on your body, your baselayers and how much comfort you want. Alpha fleece is incredible, but only if you take care of it and have a wind layer. 850 or better down is going to be a good thing to look at. Lighter materials need more care/are more fragile. Thicker material on a sleeping bag will also cut wind better, but be heavier. Managing sweat and condensation is also going to be a big part of being warm. https://preview.redd.it/ql5u7bcm7b6f1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3447a515da55f7c7c722dd870512568afebd5473

r/WildernessBackpacking • Best sleeping bag? ->
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2bciah5factng • 8 months ago

The best warmth to weight ratio pad on the market is the Therm-A-Rest XTherm. Great pad, really fucking warm though so only get it if you sleep cold. It’s pricy but if you buy it at REI it’s got a year of warranty, which you might really need, especially in the desert or even just if it gets all nasty from being wet later on. It’s a steal imo.

r/PacificCrestTrail • Gear advice: best warmth:weight sleeping bag liners? + sleeping pad recs? ->
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9ermtb2014 • about 1 month ago

Thermarest neoairs are too loud and crinkly for me. Rab style of mattress doesn't do well for me as a side to belly sleeper. Nemo is my pick because the only air pads I've kept are Nemo. An astro non-insulated pad is my summer pad with an older cosmo insulated pad being my 30 to 55-deg pad.

r/CampingGear • Any strong reason to choose one over the others? ->
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aaommi • about 1 month ago

The therm-a-rest is the most popular and i have the blue one but depending on the conditions you camp in you could pick the lighter one (yellow). That being said this one and the nemo extreme conditions will have higher denier material underneath which makes them less prone to puncture. I don’t know about the other ones on top of my head. Nemo and thermarest both have good warranties and spare parts, so I’d be leaning towards that. It’s polarizing but both are known to make a lot og noise no matter what they claim.

r/CampingGear • Any strong reason to choose one over the others? ->
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A-Chamu • 8 months ago

XTherm seems to be the gold standard currently and is what I have. I have nothing but good things to say about it - super warm, super light, decently comfortable, and (from my experience) durable

r/Mountaineering • Sleeping Pad Recommendations? ->
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ActionHartlen • 8 months ago

The thermarest Neo air mats are lightweight and good quality, if a little pricey. MEC alternatives aren’t bad either. I prefer a foam/air mix pad and have been really happy with the one I have form Sea to Summit. If you want to be on the inexpensive side, look at Woods or Decathalon, but expect more weight.

r/canoecamping • Sleeping pad recommendations? ->
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AdeptNebula • 9 months ago

The idea that you can’t be too hot on a pad is reductive. Anyone who sleeps hot in their home will tell you the kind of mattress they use makes a huge difference in sleep comfort. In my experience an X-Therm is very uncomfortable in 50+ F degree temps. I think the reflective feature makes it more uncomfortable in warmer tempts. In hot temps I want a pad that cools, not insulates. It’s worth having options, just like quilts, to have the best setup for the conditions.

r/Ultralight • A New Way to Predict Pad/Quilt Warmth ->
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afettz13 • 4 months ago

When I was younger I got a 3/4 length therma rest sleeping pad for a backpacking trip to save on weight. It worked it was fine for the trip, I'm really short anyway and didn't notice. 12 years later I used it again and let my bf use the full body one because he had never gone real camping before. Oh man, I can sleep through a lot and pretty easily. That was the most uncomfortable I've been in years sleeping on the ground. Get one. You'll regret it.

r/CampingGear • How much will I regret no sleeping pad? ->
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Alpinisming • 10 months ago

I've 200+ nights on my NeoAir. I've patched a couple holes over that time, but it was easy to identify and fix them in the field. Cascade Designs, the parent company of thermarest, will replace your pad if there's a defect in it (I've warrantied an MSR tent with them). Thru hikers use inflatable pads and do just fine. Are you having this problem with multiple brands and models? Are you super heavy? Are you sleeping wearing anything that is metal? Maybe get a gossamer gear 1/8" foam pad and put it underneath your inflatable.

r/Ultralight • My sleeping pads never seem to last more than a few months ->

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