NEMO - Tensor Series

I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. I’d take a CCF over a Thermarest. For trips where I want an inflatable over a CCF, I just got a Nemo Tensor since they’re on sale at REI (25% off). At least in store, it felt a lot better than my NeoAir or CCF.

Comfortable, I have one now. Before I had a Nemo pad I returned and honestly, kind of wish I had kept it. Only downside was it took forever to inflate. Also, these things go on sale/get returned all the time. I’d look for one second hand if possible.

You literally said people in this thread are trying to defend existing purchases, so you’re kind of telling people to buy a new pad. It’s just not a worthwhile upgrade for me when I have a Tensor, Switchback and X-Lite. I don’t need a 4th sleeping pad at home on the shelf lol

This inherently does not answer your question, because it is only R2.4, but I've been using the new Tensor Elite which packs to the size of my fist and weighs 7oz. I've used it on multiple 32F nights on shaded ground. I have used my torso-length 1/8" pad to supplement sometimes, but not all the time, and have not perceived a difference in warmth. I've mostly used it for grip. In summary, I've been impressed by it and would currently not consider anything else for a sub-20L pack system Edit: meant to say Elite, not Extreme

Yeah I'm kind of in the same position. It's about what you'd expect, it's comfortable within the limits of a short, regular width pad. It's very slippery. I've used it for about 10 nights, mostly in Grand Canyon, and it hasn't leaked yet. I'm pretty good at fixing sleeping pads, so I bought it knowing that if a leak is fixable I can handle it in the field, and if it's not fixable they will warranty it for me and I could ask for something different. Like I said I've used it in combo with 1/8 ccf because that's part of my pack but I don't think that's necessary. So, in summary, I'm skeptical of it but I have yet to be given a reason to believe it's a stupid product. It's a huge gain in comfort:weight ratio compared to my Xlite.

I have about 10 nights on one. It's comfortable and hasn't failed yet. It's very easy to use compared to Neoair because of the valves. It is definitely slippery and I sometimes use a 1/8" foam under it to mitigate this. I have yet to be cold on it, even with a few nights around freezing on shaded ground. I have a similar philosophy about its durability. I'm pretty good at fixing pads in the field so if occasional leaks are fixable I'm okay with that. If something stupid fails that's not fixable, I'll be asking for a different one when I warranty it. They are pretty great at customer service and if they are going to launch a product like this I'm not ashamed to hold them accountable

It's the quietest pad I've used, except for occasional little squeaks against the CCF I use under it

The Tensor Elite has thinner material than the Uberlite

Slightly more comfortable and completely silent unless you put it on something squeaky in my 10 nights of experience

I agree but also more slippery, and obviously less durable

10 nights here so I'll help -It is not noisy at all unless you put it on top of something squeaky. -It is quite slippery, moreso than a Neoair. I often struggle to decide between putting my 1/8" foam below (protection and grip) or above (body grip). I think ultimately I will stick to below and put some Seam Grip on top for body/sleeping bag grip -It's the easiest pad to inflate and deflate in existence IMO. This is because the valves are excellent, mine is the short version so it just doesn't take much lung time, the dump valve is wide open, and the material is so supple so you don't have to be careful about folding it nicely. I was actually struck right away by how all of these things contribute to its ease of use

I mostly agree with you. I was already carrying a Thinlight on 98% of trips even with a heavier inflatable. So that's actually why I decided to try the Elite. I personally got it for less than 200 as well.

nemo tensor. buy it on amazon.

Nemo Tensor Alpine is what I run it's good

This! I started buying tensors because they were the only reg/wide rectangle pads at the time.  They work great and are comfy enough for side sleeping for me. 

I’ve got 2 BA pads for my kids but haven’t had any issues with them at all, but they don’t seem anywhere as nice as my Nemo Tensors. A buddy has an BA pad and did get it replaced via warranty.  With that said, my Nemo Tensors have been amazing and one of them lasted over 7 years. Got it replaced very easily with Nemo, too!

I have the Tensor All Season, my brother has the Rapide and I’ve had the Dura 3R in the past so I have a decent idea of what they’re like. For one thing those specs are off, the Nemo packs the smallest and it’s definitely lighter than the Rapide at the same length and width. I use 25in wide pads though. As for comfort, these are all comfortable pads, it’s really going to come down to preference. The Exped and BA have more of a vertical baffle feel while the Nemo is more dimpled. If I had to rank them I’d go BA, Nemo, Exped. But it’s close, they are all good. For durability only the Nemo and Exped list the denier, w Nemo being 20 top, 40 bottom nylon. The Exped is 20d poly which is not only the thinnest but Poly isn’t as strong as Nylon. The BA doesn’t say the material but it seems durable. All of them should sleep true to their R value, so Nemo would be the warmest, and I’ve heard the Rapide has complaints of cold spots but my brother never experienced that, though he hasn’t tested it when it’s been cold enough. I really like that Exped uses synthetic fill rather than reflective film as it will be more comfortable in summer. So maybe go w the Exped if you’ll do a lot of summer camping and either the Nemo or BA depending upon what’s more important, comfort & durability -Rapide or weight & warmth - Nemo. Also look into warranty terms, being in Germany the Warranty won’t be the same buying from either US company.

Tensor is the best all around UL pad. The S2S isn’t meaningfully more comfortable, none of the ultralight options are. Try it next to a pad like the Megamat Ultra that has vertical sidewalls and you’ll see what I mean by meaningfully more comfortable, but it’s much more bulky and about a pound heavier. I use mine on all my rafting/kayaking trips. For backpacking it’s the Tensor every time.

The Featherstone Calcatta is also supposed to be a good budget pad. I have a Tensor All Season, the lifetime warranty justifies the extra cost imo.

No the sleeping bag won’t help much. To get a significant bump in comfort you’ll have to jump into some heavier pads that are still compressible enough to bring backpacking. Pads like the Thermarest Neoloft or Exped Megamat Ultra. I have a Tensor All Season and find it comfortable, however my Exped Synmat 3D (older version of the Megamat Ultra) is definitely more comfortable. My brother has the Rapide SL which is similar to the Tensor in comfort.

I don’t think that’s a noticeable improvement in comfort to make the switch from the Tensor.

OP has a medical issue and if they can’t get by with an already comfortable pad like the Tensor, chances are they’re probably not going to do well with the Either light either, which is a marginal improvement at best in comfort. UL means being as light as possible while still being comfortable, it’s not necessarily just about sacrifice, but being smart with what you choose not to take. Both the Megamat and Neoloft pack reasonably small, and maybe an extra pound is well within their carrying capacity and worth it if they can sleep soundly. The whole point of UL was to make life on the trail easier, but if the camp experience sucks then what’s the point. A pissing contest on base weight? I think you might be confusing UL with the show Naked and Afraid. Because that’s your endgame.

Second for the Megamat Ultra. It’s a big jump in comfort over any ultralight pad. Depending upon how far I’m hiking I’ll bring it over my Tensor All Season which is a decently comfortable pad in its own right.

Go with the Tensor all season. It’s a buy once, cry once type of item. The cheap pads for half the price come with very limited warranties. Nemo has a lifetime warranty, and when it comes to air mats in particular, there’s a good chance you’ll have an issue at some point that you can’t repair. Nemo replaced my mat twice over a 7 year period, once for a valve issue and the other was the baffle failure that many of their older pads had. Each time I got the updated version. To me the warranty alone is worth the extra cost, just make sure you get it from an authorized retailer. REI is really nice because you can access your purchase information as a member making any warranty claim a snap. The All Season also happens to be the best overall pad for its blend of comfort, weight, durability and warmth. It’s R value will get you through most of the year on its own, and the full year when combined w a ccf pad if you dare to camp in the middle of winter.

The Nemo is more comfortable,and its 5.6 R value is plenty warm down to around -10 or so which would mean your sleeping bag would be the bottleneck. They are releasing the Elipse soon though which is a less expensive version of the Tensor and has some impressive specs including a 6.2 R value, so if you don’t have a trip soon it might be worth waiting a little longer.

Get the all season, it’s more comfortable then the Xlite especially if you move a lot and are a side sleeper. One thing to note is that the Tensor Elite is going to be released soon in a wide version. If you are really concerned about weight that may be the way to go, but I think it will be wide mummy, not wide rectangle.

The true value of an air mattress is the warranty. Nemo replaced my tensor twice. Once for a valve issue the other due to the baffle design. Who’s helping you out if your Chinese mat fails?

The therm-a-rest is the most popular and i have the blue one but depending on the conditions you camp in you could pick the lighter one (yellow). That being said this one and the nemo extreme conditions will have higher denier material underneath which makes them less prone to puncture. I don’t know about the other ones on top of my head. Nemo and thermarest both have good warranties and spare parts, so I’d be leaning towards that. It’s polarizing but both are known to make a lot og noise no matter what they claim.

I think the Nemo Tensor Trail should be fine for you. I spent the last few years backpacking in the Ohio river valley (and elsewhere in the east coast and south) on a pad with a 2.5 R-value and was never once cold. I sleep notably warm as well, so I even used that pad down to 5F, but the reality is that winter in Virginia is rarely cold enough that this pad (especially if paired with a foam pad) would not be sufficient for you.

I've only slept on it for one night with a Thinlight underneath, where it got down to 35F and I felt the cold under the pad for sure but it was fine. A coworker that also bought the pad who is going on the PCT soon slept on it for a month indoors to test it out and had his rip open. He claims he just rolled over and heard it pop. [Here's a video of the damage.](https://imgur.com/a/lGLgBd3) I would *never* use it without a Thinlight.

Feels the same, except quieter.

I just checked myself, they're both listed as 1lb but the listed weight in grams puts the Eclipse at 20 grams heavier. That's not nothing, but considering it is in fact thicker, warmer, and cheaper, I too am wondering why you would choose the Tensor now if you had to pick between the two. I feel like a lot of people in this thread are trying to defend existing purchases.

Again, no one is telling you to get a new pad. The question is why you would choose a Tensor over the Eclipse.

One more time, I'm not telling people to buy anything. The literal point of OP's post is to ask why anyone would buy the Tensor over the Eclipse. And a bunch of people are giving reasons that only defend their existing purchase. Cool, great, enjoy your pad, but that's completely irrelevant to OP's question. "I don't need a warmer pad" is not a valid reason to choose one over the other.

I don't know what you're looking at but they're both listed as the same weight. And no one is asking you to buy a new pad.

Mine got a pinhole leak at the start of a thru hike. Trying to submerge it in a public bathroom sink was fun.

I had a Tensor and it was uncomfortable for me as well. I’ve found Exped inflatable pads comfortable. My favorite right now though is the Neoloft.