NEMO - Tensor Series

This inherently does not answer your question, because it is only R2.4, but I've been using the new Tensor Elite which packs to the size of my fist and weighs 7oz. I've used it on multiple 32F nights on shaded ground. I have used my torso-length 1/8" pad to supplement sometimes, but not all the time, and have not perceived a difference in warmth. I've mostly used it for grip. In summary, I've been impressed by it and would currently not consider anything else for a sub-20L pack system Edit: meant to say Elite, not Extreme

Yeah I'm kind of in the same position. It's about what you'd expect, it's comfortable within the limits of a short, regular width pad. It's very slippery. I've used it for about 10 nights, mostly in Grand Canyon, and it hasn't leaked yet. I'm pretty good at fixing sleeping pads, so I bought it knowing that if a leak is fixable I can handle it in the field, and if it's not fixable they will warranty it for me and I could ask for something different. Like I said I've used it in combo with 1/8 ccf because that's part of my pack but I don't think that's necessary. So, in summary, I'm skeptical of it but I have yet to be given a reason to believe it's a stupid product. It's a huge gain in comfort:weight ratio compared to my Xlite.

I have about 10 nights on one. It's comfortable and hasn't failed yet. It's very easy to use compared to Neoair because of the valves. It is definitely slippery and I sometimes use a 1/8" foam under it to mitigate this. I have yet to be cold on it, even with a few nights around freezing on shaded ground. I have a similar philosophy about its durability. I'm pretty good at fixing pads in the field so if occasional leaks are fixable I'm okay with that. If something stupid fails that's not fixable, I'll be asking for a different one when I warranty it. They are pretty great at customer service and if they are going to launch a product like this I'm not ashamed to hold them accountable

It's the quietest pad I've used, except for occasional little squeaks against the CCF I use under it

The Tensor Elite has thinner material than the Uberlite

Slightly more comfortable and completely silent unless you put it on something squeaky in my 10 nights of experience

I agree but also more slippery, and obviously less durable

10 nights here so I'll help -It is not noisy at all unless you put it on top of something squeaky. -It is quite slippery, moreso than a Neoair. I often struggle to decide between putting my 1/8" foam below (protection and grip) or above (body grip). I think ultimately I will stick to below and put some Seam Grip on top for body/sleeping bag grip -It's the easiest pad to inflate and deflate in existence IMO. This is because the valves are excellent, mine is the short version so it just doesn't take much lung time, the dump valve is wide open, and the material is so supple so you don't have to be careful about folding it nicely. I was actually struck right away by how all of these things contribute to its ease of use

I mostly agree with you. I was already carrying a Thinlight on 98% of trips even with a heavier inflatable. So that's actually why I decided to try the Elite. I personally got it for less than 200 as well.

Nemo Tensor Alpine is what I run it's good

This! I started buying tensors because they were the only reg/wide rectangle pads at the time.  They work great and are comfy enough for side sleeping for me. 

This pad is worlds more comfortable than the fully inflatables and it has a good r-value (5.1). I returned the Nemo tensor everyone loves so much and replaced it with this and I think it was well worth it. Yes, the weight and packability are worse, but I just can’t find an inflatable that is comfortable enough for me to think the weight/size savings are worth it.

Tensor Elite Short Mummy is 7.6 oz. With the stuff sack and patch kit it's 8.04 oz. With the included pad inflator that I doubt literally anyone will use, it's 10 oz. Source: I own it.

The released specs are exactly the same. Your assumption that "most" people will use all the extras that come with pads is flawed. At best I would include both minimum and full weights when available.

I've only slept on it for one night with a Thinlight underneath, where it got down to 35F and I felt the cold under the pad for sure but it was fine. A coworker that also bought the pad who is going on the PCT soon slept on it for a month indoors to test it out and had his rip open. He claims he just rolled over and heard it pop. [Here's a video of the damage.](https://imgur.com/a/lGLgBd3) I would *never* use it without a Thinlight.

Feels the same, except quieter.

I only use pads that are too short for me. I currently use an XLite Womens (66") and a Tensor Elite (63"). I like having my feet hang off the edge after a long day of hiking, it feels better. If I'm on a longer pad or in a bed, I will do the same thing.

I think it is. I always clear my chosen tent spot of rocks, twigs, debris and such before I set anything up. My tensor lasted my hike over the span of two years and is still going strong. It definitely never hurts to have something under it for extra protection and piece of mind though. An added bonus is that it’ll stop your pad from sliding around in your tent if you’re not on a totally flat spot. I used a lightweight microfiber towel (my luxury item, I swam a lot) for that.

Love my tensor all season. It checks all the boxes. Very comfortable

I’m a side sleeper as well and I stopped using my Nemo tensor so much because of the potato chip bag noise effects heh. This past winter, I’ve used the Sea to Summit comfort plus. It is easily the most comfortable pad I’ve ever used for side sleeping. And inflates and deflates easily. Highly recommend!

Is it noisy? The tensor I bought a couple of years ago is still going strong but man it’s like sleeping on top of a potato chip bag. I’m a guy that moves from side to side so it can be a problem some nights.

Nemo tensor all season has a 5.4 r value, packs quite small, and weighs 16 oz which I think is certainly pretty light for that level of warmth

25 inches wide a must for me, ounces be damned.

It’s subjective, of course. While I’d agree the Tensor is no where near the most comfortable, I’ve found it to hit the sweet spot in terms of being comfortable *enough*, light *enough*, warm *enough*, etc. Every other pad I’ve tried excels at one thing while falling far short in another. (Etherlite: comfy but cold. Xlite: warm and light but uncomfortable and loud. Etc.) Tensor is good *enough* in my experience.

25 inch wide + short is something I’d be interested in. (Paired w/ 1/8 inch ccf)

I would probably not pick MEC products anymore, they have dropped in quality. So MH or Nemo for a sleeping bag. And since you’re a fellow Canadian, go for the higher R value, especially since your bag only goes to -9. The Nemo tensor is a good option here.

I swear by the Nemo Tensor large. The 25 inch one. I also have 2 pillows, a cheap gear doctor one from amazon that straps to the pad, and a Nemo fillo. I need these as a side sleeper to avoid having my neck cricked. I am also a fan of quilts. I have 2 from Zen Bivy. With this setup, I have had night on the trial that were better than nights at home. I move a lot when I sleep, and switch between sides and my back. This is the only way for me to get rest. Combine with an eye mask and ear plugs!

I hope the latest versions deliver on their promised improvements. My Nemo Tensor from ~2020 hasn't shown to be very durable, though it is comfortable.

Also a side sleeper, Nemo Tensor insulted and a sea to summit pillow worked for me! The trick for me was putting the pillow between my knees, and using a stuff sack of my puffy and hiking clothes as a pillow for my head. Hope you get it figured out! Keep trekking!!

If I ever buy another inflatable pad, it'll be a [Nemo Tensor Trail](https://www.nemoequipment.eu/collections/sleeping-pads/products/tensor-trail-insulated-ultralight-sleeping-pad). Of all the inflatable options, it's simply the best blend of comfort/weight (assuming you avoid cold temps like I do) The horizontal baffles on the XLite are nowhere near as comfortable

I've had a broken spine and pelvis so I researched and tested a lot for a sleeping pad. Any thick self inflating pad was either WAY too heavy, bulky, or had bad reviews... So I ended up with a Nemo Tensor. I know you prefer self inflating but I'd give this pad a try, maybe go to a store and lay on it. I find it quiet, warm, and supportive. I sleep all night and no body aches.

Same. Love the 3R (not slippery, not noisy, vertical baffles and “rails”) but really jealous of the Tensor Elite weight. Now, if Tensor made the Elite in a 25”, I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

I second this! I recently switched to a zenbivy ultralight mattress, and I slept so comfortably, especially as a side sleeper. I previously owned a Nemo Tensor. It was okay, but I should have gotten it wide. I don't toss and turn, but my mind is more at ease if there's a little extra space, lol. That's a great idea using the nemo pad pump sack because the zenbivy pump sack does suck. I personally use a flextail pump for an extra 4.3oz, but I'll use the nemo pump sack next time!

Been very happy with my Nemo Tensor Extreme in long/wide. Have had it for several years now, no durability issues.

I just spent my first night sleeping on a tensor elite. Loved it! 40F was the nighttime low temp and I was fine. It is comfortable but slippery. More comfortable than either an xlite or an uberlite for sure. I got the short version which weighed 7.5 oz on my scale. I added pillow attachment loops at a point that my Big Sky Dream Nation pillow slightly cantilevered off the head end and that worked great. The net effect is that it worked like a full length and I am 5’-10” — I wasn’t expecting that. A pleasant surprise all around.

Just make sure whatever you buy is actually ASTM tested for the R-value. So avoid Klymit for example. If it’s not ASTM tested, they can make up any number they want to. It’s night and day between my Nemo Tensor all-season and my Klymit Static-V Insulated

Nemo tensor wide + CCF underneath for me. With the pad a little bit under inflated. I like to sleep side ways and this is the pad that keep my top leg supported on pad instead of dropping on to ground uncomfortably

+1 for the Nemo Tensor. After trying 5 or 6 different pads, I tried a Tensor. Within 3 seconds of laying on it, I knew my search was finally over

I also recommend the Nemo Tensor 25". I've tried half a dozen expensive pads and the Nemo Tensor is better, by far. A good quality pillow goes a long way to increasing sleep comfort. I can't remember the brand I have, I've had it for 4 or 5 years, but it's got a soft microfiber cover and an elastic strap that goes around your pad to keep it in place. This is much more comfortable than a stuff sack with a pants and shirt in it. Or your backpack, which is what I used to use. It's well worth the little bit of extra weight IMO

I've been using my Nemo Tensor for 6 years. I had to patch a small pinhole (it was entirely my fault that the hole got there) 3 years ago. It's still going strong

I had the RAB ionosphere (4,8?), the yellow one of the same line. After about 40 nights of use, it would not stay inflated for longer than 2 hrs, checked it for leaks etc.  Got my money back and am now rocking Nemo tensor 4 season (we're now 4 nights in, we'll see!)

Agreed. I’m definitely a side sleeper and this one supports me very well. I would get the regular-wide size a second time around so that my arms don’t fall down beside me when I happen to be on my back at times.

Any of the Nemo Tensor line is great and not loud and Zen Bivy also makes really good pads as well. That will likely be the next one I buy.

Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated and Nemo Tensor are both widely regarded as The most comfortable pads. I have or tried both and they're great.

Nemo Disco!!! I describe my sleeping style as rotisserie chicken—constantly turning. I had an REI Magma. Hated it. Swapped for Nemo Disco after the Smokies and never looked back. Okay. I just saw that this is about sleeping PADS, not bags. Leaving that top part because I’m lazy. Nemo Tensor Wide. Must must must get the wide. I started with the regular and it was too narrow for all my turning. Wide was a game changer.

For the same weight at the BA pad you could get almost 2x the insulation with the Nemo Tensor Extreme Conditions UL pad. It clocks in at R-8.5 and weighs 17 oz for the regular mummy version. The catch is that you would be paying as much as you would for the Thermarest neoair xtherm. Once you get to freezing temps the extra insulation in the pad is quite welcome. Above 40 though, you could be fine with much less. I get very warm when I'm active but at night when I'm sleeping in the cold I get just as cold as the next guy.

I like my nemo tensor

If you’re looking for an inflatable, Nemo Tensor All Season or Therma-Rest Uber Lite? They’re more expensive but comfortable, light, and warm/comfy.

Nemo Tensor All-Season. I brought it on a 3 month tour over the summer and it worked great. Very comfortable, no holes, packs small.

Yes, regular wide is the one I have. Wouldn't go back to 20" pads.

Nemo tensor with a classic foam pad underneath. The tensor has a micro adjust valve to that allows you to adjust the pressure to what works for your body. I think most people think pads should always been fully inflated (myself included for years). Using that micro adjust valve to release some air while you’re laying on the pad is a serious game changer. Allows the pad to contour to your body versus feeling like a hard bed.

This is great advice on the inflation level of the pad. I am a hammock camper and sleep with a Tensor pad inflated to about 70% when in the hammock. I sleep with the Tensor pad instead of an underquilt so I have the option to sleep in a shelter if the weather is especially bad of if I am coming into camp later than normal. The deflation of the pad when sleeping in the shelter greatly improved my sleep comfort.

All season pad was comfy and considerably warmer than other 3R pads I have had. Glad I upgraded.

The x-therm is definitely as comfortable as some others. If you really inflate it, it can stiff as a board. But, if you under inflate it, it doesn't insulate as well. But what inflated to nearly full, it will be one of the warmer pads. I use my x-therm for shoulder and winter seasons only. For three season use I am currently using an REI Helix pad which is pretty warm and very comfy. The most comfortable pad I've used. Prior to the REI Helix I was using a Nemo Tensor Insulated. That was also a comfy pad but not as comfy as the REI Helix. And its not as warm as the REI Helix. I gave the Tensor to my son who sleeps warmer than I do. And he really likes it.

Rapide for comfort, Tensor All-Season for overall value and light comfort, xlite for UL and durability. IMO

I would suggest the Rapide SL over the Zoom UL, just based on reviews about R-Value. If R-Value is not an issue, the Zoom is probably the better option. I use the Rapide on short trips and my Nemo All-Season any other time, which is comfy if you slightly deflate it.

6' 2" and a bit heavier, also side sleeper. I have a Nemo tensor and REI mahma quilt and love them. 

You've tested *all* of them? You find the Nemo more comfortable than an Etherlite XT? An REI Helix? An Exped? A Rapide SL? That doesn't compute for me. The Nemo is more comfy than a Neoair but well below all of those.

My Tensor squeaked loudly on my tent's floor I came up with a super light fix, the lightest gauge poly tarp painters drop sheet, cut to size. It's only 23g, \~ 1/3 the weight of a thinlight

The Nemo Tensor is a great choice. Especially if you're a side sleeper. I recommend supporting geartrade.ca too, they're a distributor out of Okotoks that carry a lot of speciality ultralight gear.

Nemo Tensor Wide. I think the All Season would suffice, it has a R value of 5.4. I have the past season's "insulated" version which I think is analogous to the new All Season. It works great, especially for side sleeping.

Oh yeah? I thought it was around 5 but I guess I was making that up. I've taken it down to -5 and had no issues. So yeah, the new version should be good at -10 I reckon.

The Nemo Elite pads have been discussed on this sub as a potential (even lighter) successor to the Uberlite. All the weights referenced are pad-only. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1hwnj25/nemo\_tensor\_elite\_lightest\_pad\_ever/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1hwnj25/nemo_tensor_elite_lightest_pad_ever/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1dv0yrp/nemo\_tensor\_elite\_2025\_a\_potential\_uberlite/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1dv0yrp/nemo_tensor_elite_2025_a_potential_uberlite/) Your tables, your rules. Just thought I'd let you know.

Look also at the Nemo Tensor All Season - great pad, super comfortable. I have mine in regular wide. R5.4 I believe.

Nemo Tensor All Season. I have the regular wide, fantastic light and warm pad. If you read around, the BA isn't as warm as it says and the flextail (which I had) is cold on the sides as there's no insulation there.

The Flextail zero is probably the cheapest ASTM rated one, but its Black Friday so there are deals on the Nemo Tensor All Season right now - I've seen it for £140 which is a bargain. I have that pad, its great.

Buy once cry once. Get a nemo Tensor all season or a Thermarest Neoair - you can find both used on ebay for less than rrp.

Just got my regular mummy Nemo tensor all season and fully agree. 22" at the shoulder that tapers down to the same size as currently at the feet or even slightly smaller would be ideal for me

Counterpoint: my Nemo Tensor failed 2 days into the JMT. I had about 20 previous nights on it. It developed a leak in a seam between baffles on the underside. I switched to a zlite out of necessity after a few too many cold nights on the ground. I think I’m back on the foam pad train after years of inflatables. The stress and discomfort of dealing with a (relatively) quickly deflating pad every night was not pleasant and I’m not eager to relive it. I get foam pads aren’t for everyone, but since I don’t do many cold weather trips I think I’m (re)converted.

I used a Nemo Tensor previously for weight savings which sure works great in the back woods. Took it car camping once and was just miserable knowing I didn’t need the weight savings. Bought the megamat and it was a game changer for car camping. Never slept so good in a tent.

I used a Nemo Tensor extreme and it kept me very warm. Others with just the foam pad complained of cold but I had sleeping bag open like a quilt and was warm all trip. Folds down to the size of a water bottle and has a bag system to inflate so you’re not hyper ventilating trying to blow the thing up at altitude. The one thing I’d recommend anyone take (that or a pee bottle)

For backpacking, I have had a Nemo Tensor (I got it for $125) for a few years now. It's WAY warmer than cheaper pads, packs down to the size of a Nalgene, super light (~14oz). Even getting a good, actually insulated, inflatable mattress is better for car camping. I picked up a cheap queen size from Sierra Designs for like $60, and my butt is finally warm.

If you have one nearby, REI has sleeping pads blown up you can lay on and test out. Everyones body and sleeping preferences are different. Once you figure out what kind of baffles you prefer, finding a sleeping pad will come easier as there are so many options. Especially if weight isn't an issue. I have a Nemo Tensor. It has quilted baffles. Everyone loves it, and it hurts my back and hips so bad. I also have an Exped pad and one from Zenbivy with vertical baffles. I love these. They cradle my body better. Thermarest is super popular. Most are horizontal baffles. They don't look comfy to me but it seems like people sleep well on them. Sea to Summit and Big Agnes are other popular sleeping pad brands. What kind of temps are you expecting? You'll want to choose a pad with an R value appropriate to your camping needs. Most choose a 3 season with an R value between 2-4. I would stick on the upper end if you're a cold sleeper.

I use a Nemo Tensor insulated regular wide (from around 2021? When it was R4.2). Very stable and quiet, much better than the NeoAir Xlite I once tried and quickly returned. I also sleep in every position. If I didn’t already own two of these I would buy the current Nemo Tensor All-Season Insulated which is R5.4 for the same weight.

I have 2 winter setups. Lightweight is a nemo Tensor insulated with a thermarest z fold under it. With a 0 degree down bag I've been cozy into the teens. It comes in under 5lbs so it works in the backcountry or if space in the car is at a premium. My no restrictions set up is an exped megamat with a 0 degree bag and a patagonia macro puff quilt. The quilt over the down bag keeps all the condensation out of the down and in the synthetic insulation and gives me a warmed place to put stuff like layers or my water bottle that isn't in my bag with me. The down side is that it weighs over 10lbs and takes up a lot of space.

Nemo Tensor All Season, wide version. I'm a side sleeper and it trumps most therm-a-rest pads that I've tried, including the xlite. I've not tried their NeoLoft yet, it's undoubtedly more comfortable, but you will pay a warmth and weight penalty over the Nemo.

Nemo Tensor All Season ftw. Waaay more comfy thank Xlite. Not tried Exped mats but I have heard their warmth ratings can be a bit ambitious.

I have used my nemo tensor allseason 2024 this whole summer. No issues. I like the pad.

I was sceptical but my tensor extreme has held up really well

Sleeping bag won't do anything for comfort while laying down. A good pad is what you want. Sea to Summit Ether XT Light, followed by Nemo Tensor, are my recommendations. Pillows are more forgiving. Wife and I use the Therm-a-rest ones.

I think any of the inflation pads will be pretty similar (as opposed to self inflating that are typically thinner). So Thermarest NeoAir NXT, Nemo Tensor, plus those already listed. Circa 3 inches thick to allow the hip to stay off the ground, and a square shape rather than mummy.

Have you tried any of them? Your local REI would at least have the Helix. I too had that on my shortlist and when I tried it I didn’t like it, I found I bottomed out too easily when moving and side sleeping. Like when I laid flat I’d be a couple mm off the ground, but then shifting too much weight to my hips would have me touch the ground. Again, it was fine and pretty comfy when my weight was fully distributed. My point is go and try them. I ended up going with a Nemo Tensor.

I read somewhere that the 2024 models were redesigned to address the durability issues of recent models. I have one and haven't had any problems.

My 6 ft husband is happy with his Long Wide Tensor Insulated. He has not had any problems with leaks or seams, and it's large enough for him.

I sleep very comfortably on my XLite (old model). I would rate my husband's Nemo Tensor Insulated slightly more comfortable than the XLite, but the difference is not much. If I want to sleep as comfortably as possible, I switch to a hammock. I have never found any ground system as comfortable as a properly hung and adjusted 11 ft hammock.

I had durability issues with multiple attempts at the Tensor, but that was before they upgraded the materials somewhat. I kinda wanna try the new Elite just because of the insane weight.

I had a Nemo Tensor straight POP with a one-inch tear from a extremely tiny burr on the edge of my quilt pad strap!

Same. Great pad.

I have the Nemo all season tensor. I enjoy it more than my thermarest and will be taking it despite the extra weight on my pct hike

Sorry, I meant as a comparison to a foam pad (since there’s a ton of suggestions for that). Love my tensor though as a big side sleeper and would recommend! 

Yes it's a concern. It's filling a niche formerly occupied by the thermarest uberlite, which was recently discontinued presumably because of the prevalence of durability issues. It feels a bit more substantial than the uberlite. But if I were going to rely on it, I would make sure I had a patch kit and knew how to use it, and be more careful with site selection than normal.

15D vs 10D on the Nemo💀 (And they admit it got pinholes during testing)

insulated nemo tensor long/wide. 5.4 R value

I'm a "rotisserie" side sleeper, too, and the winners for me at the S2S Ether Light XT and the Nemo Tensor lines. I can't really tell the difference in comfort between them since they're similar designs. Just as another note, I'd suggest incorporating good sleep practices into your hiking, too! I'm in my 40s, so it's tougher to get a good night's sleep than it used to be. My body needs time to relax, so I need 3-4 hours after hiking to decompress. Make a bit of decaf tea, watch some videos or journal. Then eat dinner, take electrolyte supplements & low-dose THC edibles, and put on compression socks (I wear Vim & Vigr and like their designs). It's a whole ritual that helps calm my body down and prepare me for sleep.

I have a Nemo Tensor, Thermarest NeoAir X-Lite, and an Exped Ultra. My favorite of the 3 is the Exped. I haven't used the Rapide, but I'd put it in the same class as the ones I have. At that point, they are all so similar, buy the one that is the most comfortable for you. $20-30 less or more at that price point isn't huge, and is 100% worth it for more comfort.

I use mine with a GG 1/8 “ pad below and haven had a problem I came off a tensor wide long all season so it was a bit to get use to the narrow width (I am a big guy @ 6’2” 265lbs) It gets the job done and doesn’t weigh shit.

To be fair I use if for my fast packing trips if I am just backpacking at a normal pace I go with the bigger tensor I’m doing the foothill trail in may 77 miles in 5 days and I am taking the big one… still at a 9.5 base weight but my fast packing weight is 8.5. In September I am going 110 miles also in five days and that will be the lighter setup.

Nemo tensor all season wide long has been my friend for a while now. 6’2”. 280lb side sleeper/roller

Co-sign on the tensor and the disco From a 6’2 280 lb I’m more a rotisserie hog lol.

Nemo Tensor pads are good for side sleeper. I am 190cm and use the long/wide version.

I've now put over 80 days on my Tensor All-Season (bought this year) and it's been great. I've always used it on a CC pad and a groundsheet, but it hasn't been babied otherwise. I just bought the Extreme Conditions for work this winter, so we'll see about that one.

My tensor all season just sprung a leak through my gg 1/8th foam pad. The leak is so slow I haven’t been able to find it.

Wide is good unless you’re cold camping with a quilt. My cacoon gets breezy when I move with my wider pads

I love the etherlight, I’m a side sleeper and it really helps prevent my arm from falling asleep. The only downside is the bulk. It takes up a lot of space in my pack. When I’m out for long hauls I don’t have the room for it and switch to the Tensor All-Season.

I just finished spending a week on a Nemo Tensor and it’s cool so far. I got it on Marketplace used like new for $100. I came from a Sleepingo off Amazon and the Tensor definitely retains heat better and has much better support. It feels air mattress thick coming from the cheap ultralight pad. It’s crinkly. There’s survival blanket type material in there. That said I’m happy. Definitely not looking for a new pad.

I would go this route then... NEMO Tensor Extreme Conditions Ultralight Insulated Sleeping Pad. You should get the 4 seasons for just a little more weight. Plus it is 20% off at REI until tomorrow.

I have a Nemo Tensor Insulated (Reg rectangle) and absolutely love it. It's super comfortable, I haven't found it to be noisy at all, and it's quite light.

I can’t comment on the others but I have had a Tensor Insulated for a few years and absolutely love it. I’m a side sleeper and I’ve used it down to 30F and it gets the job done but that’s about its limit. If I were going to be in temps consistently that low I’d put foam under it.

No it has a good baffle structure. Amazing for its weight. I inflate it, then let bits of air out so that my shoulder is about an inch off the ground when I’m on my side and then it’s perfect for the night.

I love my Nemo Tensor and use it year round. As for bag I have a zenbivy light quilt that is great for temperature flexibility. Mine is rated for 25F and works for me late spring through early fall. The new 2025 ones have a 10F option which will extend the usability. In the summer you can just use it as a light blanket and then sinch it up like a bag when the weather cools.

I spent one night on mine in a shakeout last weekend. I used a 10° ZPacks regular bag. I wore Marino base layers AND down pants. AND a ghost whisperer down puffy. I’m female. I sleep cold. It went down to 25° F. I got the 5’3” version of the Elite. My impressions: * Not more or less comfortable than my thermarest xlite. * Slippery AF. Like an eel slippery. I was already prepared for this from the reviews and had put a bit of seam sealer on the bottom side. It definitely helped. I was on a cushy flat spot so unsure how this will handle real world slanted tent spots. I’ve added a bit more to the underside of my pillow. (It slid right off despite having a strap.) * I was FREEZING. It went down to 25° F. I brought a thermarest CCF pad and a second puffy as a “just in case”. A few hours in, I added pad under the elite and put on the puffy, I was still cold. I kinda don’t blame this pad. It was just a super cold night and there had been snow on the ground only 48 hours before. * the flat valve is a pain. I use the zero pump and getting everything connected properly took longer than blowing up the pad. I assume I’ll get better at this but I definitely prefer thermarest’s valve which is a no brainer. * the size is PERFECT!!!! I’m 5’5”. I like my feet to hang off the end slightly. I wish all the other companies would make this size. Why is it only a choice between 6 feet or something that doesn’t even support the knees??!? * I’d previously been using the regular xlite (pre NFT but with the fancy valve the introduced in 2020) which I’d manually shortened to 60 inches. **The Elite saved me 3 oz** over that. To me, that makes the Elite worth taking a risk on. * I’m obviously worried about its durability. However, I used the torso length uberlite for about a month on the PCT. It held up just fine. I only ditched it because it was just too short for comfort. So, I’m pretty nice to my pads. I’m going to give the Elite a go on the CDT. Fingers crossed. 🤞

I'm really skeptical of the advertised R-Value on these pads from Chinese brands. I think they have found a way to get a pad to test to a really high value, but doubt it will actually perform in the real world to that value (like the Zoom UL). The setup of the R-Value test is a little different than actual real-world use. JustinOutdoors tested a bunch of new cheap mid-to-high R-Value pads and I believe he reported that most seemed to perform below what was advertised. Do you even need R9 in the winter? I've never heard of anyone cold on an X-Therm and it's R7.3. Personally, I'm always carrying an R2 foam pad in the winter anyway, so I'd rather take the weight penalty and combine it with my Nemo Tensor AS for a total of R7.5, and the foam pad serves multiple functions (sit pad, pad to stand on when changing clothes or shoes, safety backup if the inflatable has a leak, etc).

I sleep like a rotisserie starfish, and definietely second the Tensor Wide (and long, if you're tall. Me? My 5'6" frame wishes they made a short wide version.) 

Took my tensor to the desert and was not careful enough and got holes within two nights. I realized in desert where likelihood of cactus needles being everywhere is high, just need to bring ccf and pair together. I used a tyvek ground sheet for a while then recently made switch to adding a thin light pad and ditching tyvek. Just picked up this new pad and will give my son the tensor. Ive had no issues with the tensor in the 3 years since After being careful while setting up camp. But I also am a weekend warrior and spend more time looking at my lighter pack than actually backpacking 🤷🏻‍♂️

I used mine for 40 nights, and it developed a leak around the valve. A support ticket, and two weeks later and they shipped a brand new one to me with no cost to myself.

Nemo Tensor. Not self inflating, but they blow up fast with the bag included. I'm a side sleeping and need the 3" it provides.

Yup, I'm 62 and it is wonderful.

Oh me too. I love the Nemo Tensor. As a side sleeper, that thick mattress is the only thing that works. I have the 25 inch as well. Wide enough for a side sleeper too.

I have previous generation NeoAir Xlite and XTherm pads (with the older valve that looks like a small black cylinder protruding from the pad. The XLite has a bit of that "potato chip bag" crinkle which I think has gotten better in the newer models. In terms of comfort, my Nemo Tensor is WAY more comfortable, but my first Nemo Tensor failed when it kept getting little holes where the dimples are located. The NeoAir XTherm is AWESOME for warmth. I took mine on my Mt Baker climbing/mountaineering class in mid July 2024 and it was great there, and I didn't seem to mind the comfort as much. Maybe I was just tired at the end of each day and didn't care! I have a Kilos AeroCloud Ultra on the way to try and compare, which will probably be my wife's pad when we go to Iceland this summer to hike the Laugavegeur. She has lower back issues and keeping her on a comfortable pad is very important. We're always trying to strike a balance between comfort and weight for her gear. I think the Rapide SL is another good pick. Hard to know which of all these options are the best.

Current best on market imo is the Nemo Tensor. 3.5 thick 5.4 r value and still only weighs 15oz. Uses 20D nylon and has been very durable for me

Dude. I purchased a tensor from REI. The VERY first night I had it camping it was leaking. Had to top it off every 2 hours. SHITE. On a side note, my terribly annoying and crinkly-sounding Therm-a-rest NeoAir Uberlight lasted 2 years before a terminal leak at the seam.

I have backpacked with my daughter since she could walk. My old setup was I just grabbed a wide pad and wide katabatic Alsek tucked her in with me not synthetic. I am planning a 2025 JMT with her and ordered her a Gossamer gear minimalist for her she already has GG LT5 poles she loves she will be carrying my old Nemo tensor short insulated pad and my regular size Alsek from my 2016 PCT I will take the wide. She will carry the pad and sleeping bag and her pstyle/kula cloth some odds and ends and I grabbed a GG bumpster a fanny pack I am fashioning into her hipbelt for snacks. Look into dividing up the gear/bulk her total weight will be sub 5-6lb even with her own bottle rocket with water a jacket and rain gear sub 30deg setup. If the GG minimalist 19L turns out to be too big like my wife thinks when it shows up I will push it out to future setup and order a Deuter 8L Kikki kids backpack to use until she is big enuff found one looks like a dinosaur and she started watching dino Dana so win. *Forgot to mention her age she is also 6 will be 7 for JMT 2025*

I know it’s more than your stated price range, but a Nemo Tensor insulated pad is warm, comfortable, and packs down to the size of a Nalgene bottle. Highly recommend

I’m heavyset and getting old with back injuries to boot. I sleep really well on the tensor, better than I thought possible in the woods.

Naturehike is not ASTM rated. Skip. The Rapide is a great pad but is a bit cold. If you want the direct replacement to this pad get the Boundary Deluxe, which is the new name for the Q Core Deluxe. However if you are going to go winter camping over snow go for a higher R value pad. Exped Ultra 5 Exped Ultra 7 Sea to Summit Etherlight XT Extreme Thermarest XTherm Nemo Tensor Extreme

I used the Nemo Tensor and then switched to Big Agnes Divide. Thicker and got better sleep (side and back sleeper).

I switched to this last year and second this suggestion.

if sleeping on the tent floor was the best sleep of your life consider a closed cell foam pad or even the gossamer gear thinlight pad for ultimate UL you might not need an inflatable at all. i love my tensor i have the all weather one but its VERY warm and noisy but very comfortable if you need that support but you might not need all that.

For -5C and durability I would personally take the Thermarest X-Therm mummy. R7.3, 440gr (although mine weighs 460gr in reality), and a 70D material on the underside. Anecdotally, I can feel the cold seep through my Nemo Tensor Insulated (R4.2) from around freezing.

Same here - Tensor Insulated down to about freezing when I can start to feel the cold seep through. The Tensor Insulated has been replaced by the significantly warmer Tensor All Seasons, and that would be my recommendation.

Same here - Tensor Insulated down to about freezing when I can start to feel the cold seep through. The Tensor Insulated has been replaced by the significantly warmer Tensor All Seasons, and that would be my recommendation.

After reading a lot of advise like this, I bought a rectangular wide pad for my thru hike (Nemo Tensor Insulated). When my partner joined for a bit with an X-Lite regular mummy, it turned out that she (5ft) much prefers the wide pad, while I (6ft side sleeper) sleep just as well on the regular mummy (even though I, too, often kick a knee up). Obviously she took the Nemo back home to save me some weight for the remainder of the trip. Just goes to show how personal these things are.

I have both pads, notice no difference in comfort, and sleep equally well on either one. Guess I’m just an easy sleeper - certainly after a long hike!

I have not had any issues with cold spots with the Tensor Extreme. Super comfortable and warm pad. I highly suggest it.

I use a nemo tensor all season for most of the year & find it very comfortable (am also a side sleeper). Only negative is it doesn't work well with my Flextail pump. I've spoken to a few different owners of the Rapide in the past & the consensus was that the older version with the Primaloft insulation was warmer in practise, even though it's R value was lower. The new version swapped Primaloft for reflective foil, which made it lighter & more packable (& probably cheaper to make if I'm being cynical) but also colder in real world conditions. Of course everyone sleeps different & YMMV. Personally I'd see if I could find the old version on sale, if not I'd look elsewhere.

I'm a hot sleeper fyi and I've stuck with my trusty NEMO Tensor non-insulated in regular wide (an older version at this point). They never let me down and they're fairly quiet if you roll around much. Ive used them for 3 season use in Florida (which for me is reversed; I used these in Fall, Winter, and Spring lol) And there are different r-value versions out now in 2025. But I've gotta admit the sleeping pad market has gotten much more competitive as of recently.

Best pad I’ve ever slept on. Returned a tensor after it failed on first use. The extra weight is well worth the higher durability and extra comfort IMO.

Bought this 3 months ago and it was leaking out of the box. I took that as a sign and got my money back instead of exchanging it for a new one.

The Nemo Tensor is quite comfortable imo. The real answer is that comfort is pretty subjective, and the best route is for you to go to REI or similar and lay on a bunch of different pads.

From my own experience, I was used Big Agnes pads for a while but had terrible luck with them. I had two of them get holes in them, could entirely be my fault but annoying nonetheless. I recently switched over to the Nemo Tensor and wow, it’s insanely comfortable and super warm. Packs nice and small too, so far, I’m really happy with it. I’m also a side sleeper and between that pad and a quilt, it was a nice nights sleep.

Don’t go self inflating if you want that much height. Car camping, yes, any of the massive, tough, heavy self inflating mats will be fine.   Go to a camping/bushwalking shop and try a Nemo tensor insulated (wide). Fill it up then let out juuuust a bit of air. You can put a closed cell foam mat underneath if you can’t get a balance between a comfortable shape and your hips touching the ground.  Sea to summit are also comfortable but don’t insulate as well.   Also - I know you know this - it’s easier if you can lose a bit of weight. I find it much less comfortable sleeping on the ground after gaining weight. 

They're all good pads. I find them all comfortable in their own ways. Exped has the nicest fabric, but it's also the thickest which I don't really like. The Nemo tensor is the overall most comfortable, no nonsense, best of all worlds. The Xlite is my favorite however. I like the horizontal baffles. The new NXT version isn't as loud as its predecessors. The mummy shape is tapered in the perfect places unlike Expeds mummy pads, I prefer it over rectangular ones.

have you used an air mattress before? its different and of course you have the worry that you could pop it during your trip. i dont find it that long to deflate and roll up that said i use a nemo tensor and have been happy with it. whichver way you go consider getting a wider one like 25" for more comfort.

I love my NEMO Tensor.

Not self-inflating and won't accommodate your dog width-wise but hear me out. I'm the side sleepers of side sleepers. If it's not paramount that it can accommodate your dog width-wise and you're ok with taking 5 deep breaths - I know you're a big guy so I understand if that's not a possibility - look into the Nemo Tensor. They come in different lengths for bigger people. I'm a bigger guy (250 pounds) and a side sleeper as I said and the Nemo Tensor is amazing for me. It won't accommodate your dog width-wise but he could probably sleep between your legs if you really wanted him to. It comes with this "vortex" bag that will inflate the pad really quickly. I'm amazed at how well it works. 5 or so breaths and it's filled. It's extremely light and compact, basically the size and weight of a water bottle. It is the most comfortable inflatable mat I've ever slept on. We have frequent "yard camping" trips in our bumpy front lawn and I honestly get as good a night's sleep on this as I do on my bed, side sleeping and all. It's a bit more expensive but if you're an REI member (and if you're not and one is near you sign up if only for this purchase, I think it's $20) get this. If you sign up you can return it no questions asked. As a side sleeper I was searching for the best mat and this is it.

Looking to upgrade my sleeping pad in a 12L 3-season overnighter kit, so optimizing for packed size. I know about therm-a-rest 3/4 pads, but I've had issues with nerve compression due to the baffle design, making it really hard to sleep. If there's nothing better out there, I can try to make it work. Its specs are hard to beat... I've been eyeballing the new S2S XR pad. Seems to pack even smaller than their shortest UltraLite pad (the orange one.) Weirdly the small and regular have the same packed size listed on the S2S site. Heavier than the x-lite but pretty packable, comparable r-value and I could actually sleep on it. Any other pads people would recommend? Really aiming for >3 R-value minimum so I can get 3 season usage. Thanks Edit: Ordered the Tensor Elite Short to couple with a torso-length GG thinlight. Technically that's two pads and not one, but being able to just throw the thinlight on the outside of the pack makes that a non-issue, plus I get the various uses it provides. We'll see if I regret my decision...

this is probably what I'm going to end up going with. ordered the tensor elite short and an S2S XR short to compare. S2S is heavier and bulkier but still pretty small with a better r value and durability. although at 12L it probably won't win out over the tensor

I do have an Xtherm NXT for my bigger 4 season setup. but the tensor elite looks pretty cool at a ridiculous 7oz and tiny packed size. but it's pretty low R-value at sub 3

I had a Nemo tensor, but it popped on me.  Now I use the klymit static V

I really like my tensor all season pad. for backpacking you want a light bag. down is generally lighter, more packable, and more expensive than synthetic. for those temps I'd get a 25f rated bag and bring an extra blanket and hand warmers / hot water bottle if you're at the low end.

I second this. also putting my vote in for the tensor all season. very comfortable as a side sleeper myself. pretty lightweight, good r value.

I side sleep and am getting older. I love my nemo tensor all season. get the wide version and make sure you inflate it all the way. I'm 6'1" 205 lbs and don't sink through it.

I have a NEMO tensor and would second this, totally reliable.

I’m going to add that bringing some kind of repair kit for an inflatable mattress is something I wish that I had done. I had a nemo tensor that has popped twice, once a complete unrepairable blow out because I over inflated, and the other time I’m going to blame my dog for (but mostly myself because I used an inflatable with a dog in my tent.) I did carry the included patch kit with my mattress, but it came with 2 patches and I had 3 holes. My brother suggested wrapping some gorilla glue tape around my trekking pole for emergencies like this, I’m going to test it out with my busted pad just to see if it would work. Side note, if anybody reads this and has a suggestion for an indestructible sleeping pad that gives more cushion than egg shell foam, I’d love to hear it. I’m a side sleeper and a princess, so if there’s a unicorn pad out there, let me know. If someone invited an inflatable/hybrid foam, I would give you my money immediately. Like right now, I would skip my mortgage payment and give that money to you.

Currently heading Nobo in Julian. I have both the 1/8 foam pad and my Nemo Tensor All Season pad. The 1/8 pad provides protection against numerous sharp objects in the desert and is fantastic for siestas in the middle of a hot day. Take both.

Nemo tensor. I went with the alpine long wide.

I’ve had the Nemo tensor for a couple years. Love it. And I think they’ve even made some slight improvements since then. It uses an inflator bag and inflates easily/quickly. Packs small, light weight. And pretty quiet. And down the road you can grab a FlexTail Zero inflator, if you prefer. It’s really nice just pushing a button and coming back a couple minutes later to fully inflated pad. Like others have said, recommend getting the wide version for comfort. Really makes a difference. It comes with some patches but I’ve never needed them. Just be careful with it and it’ll last a long time.

I did that with my couple year old Nemo Tensor on my ‘22 hike. The Tensor of that era had a reputation for being a bit fragile. I did over 1800 miles with it on the GG ⅛” pad and had no leak issues. I’ve used it for a few years since then and only developed a slow leak this summer. I really think the ⅛” pad helped!

I have a Nemo Tensor Ultralight, which isn't self inflating, but then I picked up a cool little 1.2 oz pump off Amazon that inflates it in no time. FLEXTAILGEAR Zero Pump 1.2 oz Portable Air Pump for Inflatables, Ultra Mini Electric air Pump Air Mattress Pump, Rechargeable Air Pump for Pool Floats Air Bed Air Mattress I'm pretty happy with this setup.

Big fan of my Nemo Tensor UL. I’m a side sleeper as well but 5’9” 160lbs. How much is pack weight a concern for you?

Just recieved my tensor elite today. Pretty impressed. It feels way more durable than uberlite. But it's slippery as hell. That is my only gripe. For 8.5 oz though I'm not complaining. The pack size is also pretty remarkable. It's literally the size of a coffee cup.

My Tensor All Season 2024 is good after 12 nights

That's the 2022 version of Tensor, the 2024 ones seem working fine, for now.

Pinhole is actually better than tearing off of internal baffles since it's much easier to repair. I worry more about the leaking point you cannot easily figure out and cannot be patched in wilderness.

That's the 2022 version of Tensor, the 2024 ones seem working fine, for now.

We use a normal.air mattress about 11" tall I think. And then we put a foam mattress topper on it. It's not thick like memory foam (not hot like memory foam either) it's not Anton of cushion. But it's enough to not feel like a plastic airbed. I find it quite comfortable, and I'm a 6'4" guy over 40, which usually means normal people gear is under-engineered for me. I have nice Nemo tensor sleeping pads, but I'd take this setup way over any sleeping pad I've ever tried. With the right inflation (just enough give) I sleep about as well as an average non-luxury mattress. Definitely need to bring decent pillows from home though. Pillows are most important for me as a side sleeper.

The ones with the old valves were usually well below advertised weight too. My old one was 208 grams. I do think the extra length on this Nemo one would be a pretty big improvement to sleep quality over the short xlite.

I bought one last black friday and it immediately started leaking. I didn't want another one so I have the credit with nemo. Not sure what I will do with it but I'm going to stick with the Xtherm. However, I have had a nemo tensor insulated for years and have had no issues.

I bought one last black friday and it immediately started leaking. I didn't want another one so I have the credit with nemo. Not sure what I will do with it but I'm going to stick with the Xtherm. However, I have had a nemo tensor insulated for years and have had no issues.

I have a Thermarest Pro trail Lite that seems to work well. I have probably 2000 miles on it. I use a close foam mat under it too. I have a Nemo Tensor that I am going to try this season. I got it out of the discount / return bin at REI for like half price.

ccf pad cut down to size for the doggo, and an inflatable pad (xlite or tensor) for you next to it -- or get used to sleeping on ccf pads too if that wouldn't be good enough and she couldn't be taught to accept it

I'm actually a stomach sleeper and find the xlite very comfortable for that, although the noise is definitely an issue when sleeping without a thin pillow. I do think the tensor is slightly more comfortable, but I have to get the air pressure just right, more-so than the xlite. Interesting we have different experiences like that!

I had the same problem with the rapide so switched to a Nemo Tensor and as long as I don't over inflate it I sleep like a baby

Nemo Tensor. If you're willing to sacrifice a little R value, the Tensor Elite is tiny (and comes in small mummy so even smaller) with R-2.4. Otherwise the all-season or extreme conditions one. I use the extreme conditions most of the time and can get away with an ultralight quilt

Nemo Tensor. If you're willing to sacrifice a little R value, the Tensor Elite is tiny (and comes in small mummy so even smaller) with R-2.4. Otherwise the all-season or extreme conditions one. I use the extreme conditions most of the time and can get away with an ultralight quilt

I am 6ft tall 220lb. I use a nemo tensor all season pad long and wide model. I am a side sleeping swapping from one to the other often. I find it works well for me.

I've been using the nemo tensor all season pad. It has an r value of 5.4. I've used it on below freezing nights and it has worked well for me. It also packs down really small.

In November I went to a store and blew one up new and laid on it on the showroom floor. It was comfortable but sounded like a loud squeaky balloon. Every time I shifted weight or switched sides it was loud. Even someone walking by looked at me and said “that’s really noisy”. Because of this I bought the Nemo Tensor which is much quieter than the Sea to Summit.

I never ever regret spending decent sums of cash on my camping gear - it’s an investment in my hobby and it lasts me years to decades cause I take care of it. If I’m backpacking my primary concerns for a sleeping pad are weight, pack size, R-Value and comfort. A pool float isn’t going to be as insulating light or pack down as small as my Nemo Tensor so it would be an automatic no for me. But if it works for you then go for it.

I had a Nemo inflatable Cosmo Lite pad from 2015 that was leagues better than my old thermarest self inflating foam pad. But that Nemo pad was only the 20R rectangular version which was fine but I prefer wider. This year I upgraded to a 2024 Nemo Tensor Regualr wide 25” pad - only used it in the house a few nights and think it’ll be great. I had a whole excel file going and the Nemo Tensor kept coming back as the sweet spot on price, weight, pack size and R value no matter how I sliced it.

If packed space is that much of a premium, I would go with the Nemo tensor elite (packed inside the 12L), with a 1/8” thinlight CCF pad on the outside. The Nemo elite is ridiculously small when packed down. The addition of the CCF gets you to right around 3 r value and adds in some protection for the pad and some flexibility if the pad ever happens to bust.

I'm 54 and I sleep great on a RW Nemo tensor.

I had a rapide sl but now I have a Nemo tensor which I find more comfortable and it's lighter

They do 3 versions. The one I've got is 4.2 r value which is great for 3 seasons. They do a winter one as well+ a 2 season one

I'm a 54 year old male who's got pins and a plate in his back and side sleep on a Nemo Tensor perfectly

I have the older version that isn't as thick, so the new ones are probably even more comfier. I've used mine on multi day hikes and always had a good night's sleep

Mine was the old version called tensor insulated with a r-value of 4.2. They now make 3 versions, Tensor trail, all season and extreme. The all season version is the best for all year round unless you plan on using it in minus 5 and under, then you'd want the extreme. Hope this helps

The Thermarest NeoAir is indeed lighter. At just 12 ounces the semi-mummy arguably the best quality sleeping pad in this range and weight. But it's also not cheap. The NeoAir Xtherm is the cold weather version, R 7.4, and 16 oz. The Nemo Tensor Extreme is rectangle, R 8.1, and 18 oz. Both the Thermarest and Nemos are quieter than they were in the past. Also, the more you use them, the more quiet they get. Agree the Thermarest pump sack is the worst of the bunch, no question, but I've gotten mine to work enough. The Rapide is usually warm enough for most people 3 seasons, and the reason to buy it is indeed it's thickness, and the sides being raised. Agree the Exped 5R is good for most people. It's a simple, comfortable, rectangle. R 4.8, and 1lb 4 oz. That's certainly heavier than the Thermarest but $50 cheaper.

My first one had a pinhole leak but replaced it and my new one has been super solid the last three years

I would add an inflatable pad on top of your closed cell. Honestly, any of the common ones are going to be fine temperature-wise with the right bag and appropriate clothes, but I upgraded to Nemo's [Tensor Extreme](https://www.rei.com/product/228437/nemo-tensor-extreme-conditions-ultralight-insulated-sleeping-pad) a season ago and have been a big fan of the warmth.

I was not hot. Rainier June 2024. 15 is good for the other peaks you mentioned, but if you go with a 15 for rainier I'd get a high R value inflatable pad (like the Tensor Extreme I mentioned in another comment) to compensate.

The durability issues in the past years didn't really have to do with the thickness of the material, it was the points where the top and bottom were attached to each other that started leaking. One got a leak and you knew the rest in that row across the pad would leak soon too. I think the machine that punched the attachment had too much variance or something. Hopefully they fixed that issue too (it sounds like they've at least improved from general online comments and this thread).

Ah, I hadn't heard about that. I had two fail at the seams on top (the second from warranty) and the second failed to unfixable on trail so I had to buy the nearest replacement and didn't want to carry it around for another warrant.

I love my Nemo Tensor insulated. Though it’s too warm for anything over 40°F for me. I think you can’t go wrong with Nemo, as long as it’s comfortable for you

I’ve had Thermarest, BA, Exped and Nemo Tensor and the Tensor is the best for me. Not as light as a NeoAir Xlite, but still respectable- I have a regular wide, more comfortable and I think warmer than any you mentioned. The REI Helix is also worth trying. Maybe buy both online and return the one you don’t like. If you don’t take it outside it would be considered a new return with tags and original packaging.

Same here! Did a quick indoor test and I like it. Tomorrow I try it on the trail.

Hi there! Thought I'd come back to you with my results over the Labor Day weekend. The pad packs incredibly small and easily inflates with the pump sack. That took me a couple tries to get the hang of since I'm just used to blowing up my Klymit pad like a balloon. A bit awkward to do in my 2-person tent since it was raining, but nothing too crazy. Very comfortable and warm when first inflated. Slept like a dream with that and my quilt. Unfortunately, by morning I had lost a lot of air and was bottoming out when sleeping on my side. I know a little air loss overnight can be expected, but this was too much. I just contacted Nemo about this and they were quick to honor the warranty for me, but I think returning to the retailer will be faster. I'll ask for a replacement in the hopes I just got a bad one, as I loved everything else about it. Hope your experience is much better!

I'm still not used to using the pump sack, but probably about 2-3 minutes to inflate. No need to use it for deflation. You just pop out the valve and squeeze the air out like any other sleeping pad.

I'd say two minutes approximately. Depends if you want to fold it back up exactly as it came from the store, or if you're willing to get close enough.

I'm a back sleeper and find that the dimpled baffling systems on the Helix and S2S pads tend to be the most comfortable. Nemo Tensor is the next most comfy, and Thermarest horizontal baffles are the least comfortable for me. Can't comment on the Expeds as I haven't tried them.

My Tensor Elite weighs 9.1oz by itself on my scale. Is yours 8.5?

Love my ultralight Nemo pad, and when I ultimately punctured it, the company sent me a new one no questions asked.

[Similiar] I've been car camping for the last month using NEMO tensor EXTREME. I've REI replaced once and am now (again) chasing a slow leak. Seems to make it half way through the night 🌙 before my winds needs to 😮‍💨 blow. Soapy spray down check ...&can't find the slow leak. 🐌 i don't know what sharp object is in my VW TDI wagon to have repeat problem. Used sundry other pads. Would also love to hear of one that lasts as long as Darwin's

Ha, same. Started with the 'ol cheapo Klymit Static V, moved to the small mummy Therm-a-Rest XLite NeoAir for a couple years, then figured I'd get a wide to see if that helped with side sleep comfort so my butt and knees weren't off the edges (& went extra warm because may as well eliminate redundancies) with the Therm-a-Rest XTherm in reg wide. No dice. Tried a friend's Nemo Tensor, and wasn't for me. Tried the large women's Sea to Summit Comfort Light Insulated air - dimples felt odd and was too thin; no better than my old mummy xlite for overall comfort even with the wider shape. Running out of budget to throw in for the S2S Ether Light XT test and given my experience with the Comfort Light, wasn't convinced it was the move. Still haven't tried vertical baffles like the Expeds, and maybe that'd do fine, but instead just went all in on the reg wide chonky Neoloft... and good god. With that soft knit stretch top, slept a like the coziest dreamy log for 8.5 hours first time I took it out (and then 6 the next, but only thanks to a disruptive woodpecker. Nature!) I hesitate to mention/recommend it here as it kinda undermines the whole forum topic (ultralight) with its extremely-not-ultralight weight. But packs just as small as my reg-wide XTherm and as a bike camper, pack size matters more than strictly weight so I'm sticking with it.

I started with Nemo tensor insulated pads and the BAs are definitely more quiet. I find they’re more comfortable as well.

Tensor is nice and quiet, and for me at least quite comfy with a little air let out. Between my wife and I we have three versions, and if you’re really going to go down to 30F I’d say get the xtreme version. The summer and all season version will help down that low, but are noticeably colder sleeping at those temps.

Mine lasted the entire AZT this past Spring and I'll be taking it on the CDT this upcoming Spring, and I'm not concerned about the durability. Never had any leaks or issues, although I'm sure they happen. It's worth getting one and taking it out a few times locally to make sure there's no defects, that way if there are Nemo can take care of you before you're stuck in the middle of nowhere.

I've had various Nemo Pads for the last 12 years. All of them are solid. I recently got the Tensor Extreme with an R-value of 8.5 and super happy with it. Doesn't even crinkle like the Thermarest ones. Nemo has an amazing warranty program as well. I've not had to use it on any of the pads, but did on a pillow. Replaced immediately. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBackpackingList/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBackpackingList/)

Honestly just ball out and get the Nemo Tensor Extreme. A sleeping pad can’t really be too warm considering you can just vent from the top, so higher R value will be more versatile for Canadian weather.

NEMO all season. Comfy. Warm. Quiet enough. I like the wide, but not really "ultralight" then, but that's my extra luxury ounces. I'm a side sleeper. Use down to 25'.

I have the tensor and the REI higher R value version. The tensor rolls up smaller than a 32 oz Nalgene- they're both great for comfort, warmth, and space in pack.

Are you super confident in its durability? I’ve had 2 nights with it and love it, but every time I roll it up I get just a little worried lol

I have the nemo tensor insulated ultralight pad and I love it. I’ve taken it on a few trips and it’s warm, light, comfy, and I haven’t had any issues with popping or tears. I like to move around a lot when I seep and it always seems to be comfortable in whatever position I’m in (as much as a pad can). I highly recommend it. For colder trips I put a $30 foam pad underneath it. I think buying the $30 foamer and tossing it under an inflatable pad is the way to go. It increases the r value. Makes your sleeping system more modular. And protects your sleeping pad from sharp rocks or sticks.

Expensive just gets you better r rating and lighter weights. Not so much durability IMO. I like the Nemo Tensor All Season pad in regular wide. I’m in the 100KG+ club and side sleeper as well.

As both my Nemo Tensors already leak, I definitely don’t want a thinner material. And no wide version. I’m out on the Elite.

have you tried NEMO Tensors? Trail, Trail Ultralight, or Extreme Conditions - all pack down to 10x4in, 1lb 1oz to 1lb 4oz. 3.5in thick so very comfy for me as a restless side sleeper with hip problems! smaller/lighter than the sea to summit Ether Light XT Extreme i was using.

have you tried NEMO Tensors? Trail, Trail Ultralight, or Extreme Conditions - all pack down to 10x4in, 1lb 1oz to 1lb 4oz. 3.5in thick so very comfy for me as a restless side sleeper with hip problems! smaller/lighter than the sea to summit Ether Light XT Extreme i was using.

have you tried NEMO Tensors? Trail, Trail Ultralight, or Extreme Conditions - all pack down to 10x4in, 1lb 1oz to 1lb 4oz. 3.5in thick so very comfy for me as a restless side sleeper with hip problems! smaller/lighter than the sea to summit Ether Light XT Extreme i was using.

I’ll second this. While a bit on the heavy side if you are backpacking, it isn’t prohibitively so. I’m old now and I value comfort/sleep over a few ounces. The spoon shaped bags by Nemo are comfortable and perform in the cold, and the price is decent for a quality bag. I also view the Nemo Tensor All-Season as the best all around sleeping pad on the market. There are a couple options considered a bit more comfortable (namely Rapide SL and Neoloft) but they can’t hold a candle to the warmth, packability, and weight of the Tensor. It checks all the boxes (except inexpensive I guess).

Do you have a max budget? Do you have a good sleeping bag to pair it with? Any of the modern inflatable pads will fit in your bag unless you've brought enough other stuff to cross the continent on foot, lol Here's our experiences, though not a comprehensive review of everything on the market. TLDR probably get you an Exped Ultra 5R. Nemo Tensor: I am a flopper and tended to roll onto the edges, which made them collapse and dumped me onto the ground. Pad is comfortable otherwise. It does make quite the crinkly sound when moving. Exped Ultra 3R: probably a bit cold when temps are approaching the lower end of your range. Large side baffles (like the Big Agnes you linked, I think) keeps you from flinging yourself off the pad. Thick and comfortable. Fantatsic pump sack inflates the thing in like 20 seconds. Was entirely too cold for us where it gets colder than your range. Side note, it was paired with a Big Agnes sleeping bag which was horrible. Terrible bag. Exped Ultra 5R: all the pros of the 3R but warm enough! Great pad, my wife's current go-to. Therm-a-Rest NeoAir XLite MAX: or whatever the yellow rectangle \~5R one is. Lacks the side bolsters of the Exped and is thinner, but is very comfortable and IIRC lighter. Another great pad, my current go-to. Pump sack is beyond useless, too porous and leaks air instead of blowing into pad. I just blow it up by mouth. Generally, I've found we prefer rectangular pads. If you're with someone else and you both have rectangular pads - make sure they fit in your tent! Many tents are tapered and your feet will overlap which is super annoying

The Tensor has a slightly higher tendency to squash at the edges and dump you off if you flop over there, at least in my experience with a different Tensor. Both are great though!

Used mine on an arctic expedition without problems. And many nights since that.

For me, only the S2S Ether Lt XT and the Nemo Tensor work. Horizontal baffles are a nightmare with the "slipping off" feeling and movement! I sleep on my side and stomach and sometimes back, and those two work great.

For me the S2S works where others don’t work. I find horizontal baffles extremely uncomfortable … it feels as if anything closer to the edge falls down and doesn’t give any support. So for me the S2S works for longer trips and for shorter I use a short version of the Nemo Tensor.

Agree. I have Nemo tensor and S2S Ether Lt xt because I find horizontal baffles very uncomfortable.

Loving my WM Ultralite (rated to -7°C) and my NEMO tensor all-season mat (r-value of 5.4) set up. The bag is a bit warm for me / needs to be unzipped above 20°C, and I found my set up to be a bit chilly one -25°C night when sleeping in a very drafty kitchen shelter once our fire died back. I’m not sure I’d recommend this exact set up for consistent -10°C trips, but I’ve appreciated the quality and low weights of both products and, as others have commented, I would encourage you to check out other products by both WM and NEMO.

I haven't had any durability issues with the Tensor XV (\~20 nights on it over the last year). My v2 Tensor Insulated failed at the weld points after about that amount of time though. New materials and new welds with new versions of the Tensor line and the Extreme Conditions has different welds than the All-Season or Trail. If camping in below -25C conditions, get the Xtherm. The Xtherm sleeps warmer than the Tensor XC.

The Tensor AS and Ultra 5R are great pads for the canadian rockies. Both might be slightly cold depending on where you're going in mid-may as there can still be snow on the ground or the ground could still be frozen even if the snow has melted. I find frozen spring ground as cold as snow in the middle of winter. I'd look at a Neve Waratah quilt. The Waratah -8C is $353 CAD.

I've spent 5 nights on the Tensor Elite and wanted to share some initial thoughts since there isn't much information out there and my testing yielded some results I found interesting. Here are my thoughts in no particular order but numbered in case someone has a question/comment about a specific point. 1. My size regular pad came in 14g over spec at 254g compared to the 240g advertised (no stuff sack or dodads). 2. I did not feel any heat-loss through the pad down to 2C/35.6F (with a 30f zpacks solo quilt, boxers, and an OR echo t-shirt). 3. The 20in width was noticeably narrow after spending most of the last couple of years on 25in wide pads. That being said, it wasn't as big of an issue as I thought it would be due to the next point. 4. Comfort is really good for the pad. It is more comfortable than I expected by quite a bit. I only woke up a couple of times to shift positions each night I used it. Two reasons for the comfort: 1) slightly dimpled horizontal baffling helps with pressure relief and 2) the lightweight materials have quite a bit of stretch/give to them which helps with pressure relief too. 5. Durability will be a question mark until more pads are used for more nights. The shell material is thin and the TPU to hold air in is thin, which is what led to issues with the Uberlite. But maybe Nemo did some magic to make the materials more durable than the Uberlite.

It was really cool to see Steven test this. There are not many people outside of the big companies with resources to be doing this. It reinforces observations I have had with pads since the new ASTM standard first came out. I think the big takeaway was that the tests reinforce how much the current r-value testing system gets completely messed up by convective heat transfer. Because rvalue testing happens at room temperature, pads without methods to reduce convective heat transfer potentially perform better than if they had methods to reduce convective heat transfer. The room temp air is helping the pads "combat" the cold plate underneath the pads. This is made more of a factor by the fact the plates that sandwich the pads usually only take up a fraction of the pads surface area. Stevens testing reinforces what I have also been seeing in the field while testing dozens of pads in every temperature possible. Pads like the Xtherm (with good convective heat loss mechanisms) outperform pads like the Tensor XC (minimal convectove eat loss mechanisms) even though the Tensor XC has a higher tested rvalue. I think a good quick and dirty method for testing convective heat transfer is the deflation test. Open a fully inflated pads dump valve and see how quickly it deflates. You could start trying to push air out too by rolling it. You'll notice pads like the Xtherm are a lot harder to get air out of. Companies are designing pads for the testing standard, which is going to bite them in the butt since it's essentially wasted R&D with more info coming out about how rvalue can be a good place to start but is kind of garbage. edit: To answer your question, you will sleep warmer on a CCF pad of an equal ASTM tested r-value inflatable pad due to the issues with the testing standard. CCF does phenomenally at reducing convective heat transfer.

Nemo tensor extreme regular wide, best pad ever.

Side sleeper checking in... In my search for something more comfortable, I tried the Zenbivy Ultralight mattress and I've been super happy with it however I sleep but mostly on my side. It's quiet too. My previous pad was the Nemo Tensor and it works pretty well too but I feel the zenbivy is easily more comfortable for me. Only negative is the pump sack that comes with it. It's surely convenient also being the stuff sack but it's small and I don't use a stuff sack for my pad anyway so I just use the pump sack I got with the tensor.

I had previously only used my z-lite pad and finally decided to get something kore comfortable. I got the non-extreme Tensor and it’s super comfortable and noticeably warmer than just the foam pad. I’ve also stacked the two to protect the tensor from pops and add more insulation. If i decide to do hardcore winter camping I’ll def get the extreme. I also tried a bunch of inflatables at multiple stores and found the tensor to be one of the most comfy in it’s weight class.

The 2022 tensor insulated is R 4.2, so the all season should be a good bit warmer. I have the og insulated, which is about R 3.5, and it's. . . Sleepable at -5°, I put on a sweater and pants to get comfortable.

The 2022 tensor insulated is R 4.2, so the all season should be a good bit warmer. I have the og insulated, which is about R 3.5, and it's. . . Sleepable at -5°, I put on a sweater and pants to get comfortable.

Closed cell foam pads like that are awesome but they unfortunately dont work too well for side sleepers (i mean they can but not nearly as comfy as a inflatable pad). I personally use a nemo tensor elite and a 1/8” foam pad combo and even together its only about 10 ounces which is still less than a switchback and vastly more comfortable.

Nemo fillo pillow (lifetime warranty), Nemo all season pad (lifetime warranty), I used to use thermarest air mattresses but switched i still like them too , I have mediocre mec zero sleeping bag i use atm which i need to upgrade too a smaller lighter quilt,...

The nemo tensor extreme has done me very well as a side sleeper. Edited to add: didn’t pay attention to see this is the ul sub and obv at 1lb 6oz this is NOT an ul suggestion

A friend of mine and I have been very happy with our Tensor Extreme Conditions pads. They doubled the denier (from 20D to 40D) on the bottom of the pad for this newest generation of pads. I find it more comfortable than the XTherm NXT but its not entirely fair given that the Nemo pad is newer and thicker than the Xtherm. The pump sack on the XTherm is just okay compared to the excellent pump sack on the Nemo pads. I can easily inflate my wide pad in 5-6 breaths. If you're worried about durability the XTherm is 70D and has an incredibly robust valve. I agree with u/Cautious_Cheek5093 about bringing a CCF pad just in case (and to bump the R-Value). If you have an REI near you, I'd recommend trying them in store.

Most of the failures that I heard of speaking with AT hikers were pinhole leaks on the bottom of the pad. Unfortunately this would fall under wear and tear. Thankfully seam failures are a more obvious manufacturing defect and would be warrantable. I had an older tensor fail at the seam near the valve personally. 

I’ve loved my Nemo tensor for the end of my trip. Ridiculously small, and has survived many nights so far.

I can't speak to that exact model, but my Nemo Tensor Insulated was absolutely fine on the JMT this summer, and I believe the construction process is basically the same. Inflatable pad failure from manufacturing defects is generally statistical- you either get a bad one that fails right away (which you then exchange via warranty), or you get a good one that lasts the normal amount of time. The rate of defects is different for every product run, and it's not something they usually advertise. "Durability" is harder to quantify because, at the end of the day, it's a balloon that can be punctured and you're laying it on the ground and putting weight on it. You can't get a clear idea of how durable something is just by reading a bunch of one-off reviews, because you can't control for conditions or expectations, and you don't know if it's a representative sample. I'd just go lay on both pads in the store and buy the one you find most comfortable and that fits your weight and money budget.

I would personally recommend an R-value of at least 6 for -10C. More is better. Most people underestimate the effect the pad has on the overall warmth of their sleep systems, and don't get the most out of their quilt because of it. It's better to go with a warmer pad and a lighter quilt than vice versa, because you can always supplement your top insulation with clothing, but that stuff all compresses under you, leaving the pad as basically your only bottom insulation no matter how much you wear. R-6 would be a solid CCF foam pad approximately 4cm thick, weighing about 880g, and it would be extremely bulky. [Oware](https://bivysack.com/shop/ols/products/foam-1-slash-2-thick-closed-cell-ultralight-sleeping-pads-white) sells some 1/2" CCF pads as a starting point. (If you're not in the US, you can probably find the same stuff from another retailer.) You could theoretically stack 3 Switchbacks, but pads with the "open egg crate" design don't add warmth quite as well when stacked as a solid foam pad does, because when they nest, you don't triple the benefit of the air pockets they're designed to create. Or you could just by a Nemo Tensor Extreme at R-8.5, which is 472g in the mummy version, and be all set even if the temp drops below what you're expecting. This is probably the cheapest, lightest, and warmest option. tl;dr- inflatables are just better for very cold weather

A pad cannot really make you "too hot", because warm air rises. You can always dump extra heat by venting or hanging a leg out of your top insulation. For reference, the mattress/box spring combo you sleep on at home is like R30+, and you're sleeping in a 68-74F room. If a mattress could be "too warm" you'd be getting heat stroke in your bedroom every night. (Giggity!) The Nemo Tensor Extreme is R 8.5 and 17oz in a regular mummy. I thought it was overkill too, until my wife bought one and I tried it out. It's 2oz heavier than my Tensor, for a 100% R value increase. Best pad on the market.

It's pretty simple: Your pad can't really be "too warm". Heat rises, so you can always use a lighter top layer (or less coverage with a heavy top layer) to regulate your sleeping temperature. You never want conductive heat loss to the ground to be the thing keeping you cool, and it's very much not weight-efficient to go thin on your pad and heavy on your down. You're generally also carrying down clothing in winter, which can be used to supplement top insulation, but, very importantly, NOT bottom insulation. A high R-value (R-7 to R-9) inflatable pad is only an ounce or two heavier than a 3-season, so if you plan to hike in cold weather (freezing or below) get a Nemo Tensor Extreme, (or something similar from one of the other manufacturers) and save weight on your quilt. Every 10-degree step in high-end UL quilt insulation is about 3 oz, so: \- a 17oz R-8.5 pad with a 30F degree quilt and \- a 14oz R-2.8 pad, with a 20F quilt are pretty much the exact the same trail weight, but you'll sleep warm *much* more reliably with the first setup, and you can easily supplement the quilt with the puffy you're already carrying if you need to. >!*(If you care where I'm getting these numbers, I'm comparing the Nemo Tensor line in reg/mummy, and using Hammock Gear's Burrow UL in the standard size, width and fill as benchmarks. Yes, you can get lighter than each of these options if you have deep pockets, but the relative tradeoff is going to be the same)*!< A CCF pad for cold weather would need to be so thick that it would be ridiculously bulky, and also much heavier. (For example, an R-6 CCF pad in regular 72 in. length would be approximately 1.5 inches thick, and would weigh about 31oz. It would be over 18 inches wide when rolled up in a spiral. If you're only hiking at times and places where you're sleeping at 40F and above, run whatever you're most comfortable on. Inflatables and CCF are about the same weight between R-2 and R-3 (what I would consider 2.5-season), and if you can stand having less cushion, you can save a lot of weight in the summer with a Thinlite CCF under the R-2 mark. What a lot of people suggest (and that *doesn't* actually make sense unless you've already invested in gear and just want to keep it cheap) is supplementing a 2-3 season inflatable with CCF for the winter. You're basically using each style of pad in the worst way possible. You'd be lighter and more comfortable just buying the warm inflatable, because you'll get more out of your down in all situations with it, and having a separate, cheap, super light CCF pad for the summer. tl;dr- if you hike in winter, get a high R-Value inflatable. If you don't, it doesn't much matter whether you go inflatable or foam. Get whatever you sleep best on.

Agreed, and it doesn't take up much space when rolled up