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I hate my NeoAir, I don’t find ThermaRest pads comfortable at all. I’d take a CCF over a Thermarest. For trips where I want an inflatable over a CCF, I just got a Nemo Tensor since they’re on sale at REI (25% off). At least in store, it felt a lot better than my NeoAir or CCF.
Comfortable, I have one now. Before I had a Nemo pad I returned and honestly, kind of wish I had kept it. Only downside was it took forever to inflate. Also, these things go on sale/get returned all the time. I’d look for one second hand if possible.
You literally said people in this thread are trying to defend existing purchases, so you’re kind of telling people to buy a new pad. It’s just not a worthwhile upgrade for me when I have a Tensor, Switchback and X-Lite. I don’t need a 4th sleeping pad at home on the shelf lol
nemo tensor. buy it on amazon.
I have the yellow tensor, use the switchback underneath, I’m 6’2” 230lbs and other than sliding off a lot, it was comfortable padding.
Long and wide Tensor. This summer, I will try inserting pad into my merino sleeping bag liner and then sleep on top of that. The surface of the Tensor is slippery and I was camped on an incline.
I’ve got 2 BA pads for my kids but haven’t had any issues with them at all, but they don’t seem anywhere as nice as my Nemo Tensors. A buddy has an BA pad and did get it replaced via warranty. With that said, my Nemo Tensors have been amazing and one of them lasted over 7 years. Got it replaced very easily with Nemo, too!
I have the Tensor All Season, my brother has the Rapide and I’ve had the Dura 3R in the past so I have a decent idea of what they’re like. For one thing those specs are off, the Nemo packs the smallest and it’s definitely lighter than the Rapide at the same length and width. I use 25in wide pads though. As for comfort, these are all comfortable pads, it’s really going to come down to preference. The Exped and BA have more of a vertical baffle feel while the Nemo is more dimpled. If I had to rank them I’d go BA, Nemo, Exped. But it’s close, they are all good. For durability only the Nemo and Exped list the denier, w Nemo being 20 top, 40 bottom nylon. The Exped is 20d poly which is not only the thinnest but Poly isn’t as strong as Nylon. The BA doesn’t say the material but it seems durable. All of them should sleep true to their R value, so Nemo would be the warmest, and I’ve heard the Rapide has complaints of cold spots but my brother never experienced that, though he hasn’t tested it when it’s been cold enough. I really like that Exped uses synthetic fill rather than reflective film as it will be more comfortable in summer. So maybe go w the Exped if you’ll do a lot of summer camping and either the Nemo or BA depending upon what’s more important, comfort & durability -Rapide or weight & warmth - Nemo. Also look into warranty terms, being in Germany the Warranty won’t be the same buying from either US company.
Tensor is the best all around UL pad. The S2S isn’t meaningfully more comfortable, none of the ultralight options are. Try it next to a pad like the Megamat Ultra that has vertical sidewalls and you’ll see what I mean by meaningfully more comfortable, but it’s much more bulky and about a pound heavier. I use mine on all my rafting/kayaking trips. For backpacking it’s the Tensor every time.
The Featherstone Calcatta is also supposed to be a good budget pad. I have a Tensor All Season, the lifetime warranty justifies the extra cost imo.
No the sleeping bag won’t help much. To get a significant bump in comfort you’ll have to jump into some heavier pads that are still compressible enough to bring backpacking. Pads like the Thermarest Neoloft or Exped Megamat Ultra. I have a Tensor All Season and find it comfortable, however my Exped Synmat 3D (older version of the Megamat Ultra) is definitely more comfortable. My brother has the Rapide SL which is similar to the Tensor in comfort.
I don’t think that’s a noticeable improvement in comfort to make the switch from the Tensor.
OP has a medical issue and if they can’t get by with an already comfortable pad like the Tensor, chances are they’re probably not going to do well with the Either light either, which is a marginal improvement at best in comfort. UL means being as light as possible while still being comfortable, it’s not necessarily just about sacrifice, but being smart with what you choose not to take. Both the Megamat and Neoloft pack reasonably small, and maybe an extra pound is well within their carrying capacity and worth it if they can sleep soundly. The whole point of UL was to make life on the trail easier, but if the camp experience sucks then what’s the point. A pissing contest on base weight? I think you might be confusing UL with the show Naked and Afraid. Because that’s your endgame.
Second for the Megamat Ultra. It’s a big jump in comfort over any ultralight pad. Depending upon how far I’m hiking I’ll bring it over my Tensor All Season which is a decently comfortable pad in its own right.
Go with the Tensor all season. It’s a buy once, cry once type of item. The cheap pads for half the price come with very limited warranties. Nemo has a lifetime warranty, and when it comes to air mats in particular, there’s a good chance you’ll have an issue at some point that you can’t repair. Nemo replaced my mat twice over a 7 year period, once for a valve issue and the other was the baffle failure that many of their older pads had. Each time I got the updated version. To me the warranty alone is worth the extra cost, just make sure you get it from an authorized retailer. REI is really nice because you can access your purchase information as a member making any warranty claim a snap. The All Season also happens to be the best overall pad for its blend of comfort, weight, durability and warmth. It’s R value will get you through most of the year on its own, and the full year when combined w a ccf pad if you dare to camp in the middle of winter.
The Nemo is more comfortable,and its 5.6 R value is plenty warm down to around -10 or so which would mean your sleeping bag would be the bottleneck. They are releasing the Elipse soon though which is a less expensive version of the Tensor and has some impressive specs including a 6.2 R value, so if you don’t have a trip soon it might be worth waiting a little longer.
Get the all season, it’s more comfortable then the Xlite especially if you move a lot and are a side sleeper. One thing to note is that the Tensor Elite is going to be released soon in a wide version. If you are really concerned about weight that may be the way to go, but I think it will be wide mummy, not wide rectangle.
The true value of an air mattress is the warranty. Nemo replaced my tensor twice. Once for a valve issue the other due to the baffle design. Who’s helping you out if your Chinese mat fails?
I have the predecessor to the Megamat Ultra and it’s amazing, so I’d check out the Ultra. The other mat to consider is the Neoloft, which should be close in comfort but packs smaller. There will be a noticeable jump in comfort between either of these and ultralight pads like the Tensor All Season which I use for backpacking. My Exped is what I take on rafting/kayaking trips where weight doesn’t matter but volume still does. The foam pads like the regular Megamat are more comfortable but they pack down huge and will take up too much room in the raft, avoid foam if pack size matters. Those are car camping pads.
The therm-a-rest is the most popular and i have the blue one but depending on the conditions you camp in you could pick the lighter one (yellow). That being said this one and the nemo extreme conditions will have higher denier material underneath which makes them less prone to puncture. I don’t know about the other ones on top of my head. Nemo and thermarest both have good warranties and spare parts, so I’d be leaning towards that. It’s polarizing but both are known to make a lot og noise no matter what they claim.
I think the Nemo Tensor Trail should be fine for you. I spent the last few years backpacking in the Ohio river valley (and elsewhere in the east coast and south) on a pad with a 2.5 R-value and was never once cold. I sleep notably warm as well, so I even used that pad down to 5F, but the reality is that winter in Virginia is rarely cold enough that this pad (especially if paired with a foam pad) would not be sufficient for you.
I just checked myself, they're both listed as 1lb but the listed weight in grams puts the Eclipse at 20 grams heavier. That's not nothing, but considering it is in fact thicker, warmer, and cheaper, I too am wondering why you would choose the Tensor now if you had to pick between the two. I feel like a lot of people in this thread are trying to defend existing purchases.
Again, no one is telling you to get a new pad. The question is why you would choose a Tensor over the Eclipse.
One more time, I'm not telling people to buy anything. The literal point of OP's post is to ask why anyone would buy the Tensor over the Eclipse. And a bunch of people are giving reasons that only defend their existing purchase. Cool, great, enjoy your pad, but that's completely irrelevant to OP's question. "I don't need a warmer pad" is not a valid reason to choose one over the other.
I don't know what you're looking at but they're both listed as the same weight. And no one is asking you to buy a new pad.
Mine got a pinhole leak at the start of a thru hike. Trying to submerge it in a public bathroom sink was fun.
[This thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/1qkk4yh/ccf_pads_made_from_xlpe/) made me aware of something that I've been wanting for a while: a CCF pad that is as light as a Thinlight but with egg crate bumps that ventilate better when used as a back panel on a backpack. I've never been able to use my Thinlight for this because my back gets too sweaty. It works fine with bumpy pads, but I can only use [small sit pads](https://imgur.com/a/ti5WyFy) because full length bumpy pads are too heavy and bulky. I could find very limited information about this pad so I figured I'd bite the bullet and post my first impressions and compare it to other pads. Here's some specs: * The cheapest I could find the pad was $30, which is overpriced I think, but so is everything on post-tariff Aliexpress these days. * Weight came in at 104g, which is pretty much on spec. It comes with two elastic straps (1g each) and a protective stuff sack (10g) which I am unlikely to use, but is nice to have. * It claims to be made out of IXPP, which is stiffer and stronger than pads made out of IXPE (common in generic pads, including the generic pad I compare it to). I can't tell for sure it *is* IXPP, and technical info listed goes back and forth on it, but I'll assume so as it seems harder than IXPE. * It has a claimed R-value of 1.8 which is clearly bullshit. The bumps probably add some benefit, but I don't expect it to be significantly warmer than a Thinlight. * /u/downingdown measured the actual foam thickness to be [about 2mm](https://imgur.com/a/21pfbP5), or 1.2mm thinner than a Thinlight, and the bumps to be 12mm. * [It's wider than other pads](https://i.imgur.com/UpClriu.jpeg), but the bumps stop short of the sides so there's little benefit to that. I'll almost certainly trim it to fit my torso length. I compared it to [a number of CCF pads I had on hand](https://i.imgur.com/etZlBz4.jpeg): * my GG Thinlight (older 20" wide version) - 94g * a generic $1 Aliexpress pad - 311g * an [Exped Flexmat M](https://www.expedusa.com/products/flex-1-5r) I won at PCT Days - 321g The most comfortable was the generic $1 pad. [It's the thickest](https://i.imgur.com/aeE8U8i.jpeg), and made out of the softest foam, but I think it's mostly to do with the dome bumps instead of pyramid bumps. I'm sure there's a reason why most egg shell pads use pyramid bumps, but I find them much less comfortable. This is the only pad I would actually use on its own. For the record, I've also previously owned a Nemo Switchback and [Decathlon MT100 pad](https://www.decathlon.com/products/hiking-mattress-forclaz-m100-foam) and found neither more comfortable. The Flexmat is made out of a harder material, which along with pyramid bumps makes it pretty uncomfortable. I noticed only a minor difference in comfort between this and the Y-55, which is wild considering it's almost 3 times heavier and an order of magnitude thicker. There was a noticeable difference in comfort between the Y-55 and Thinlight, despite being similar in weight. The bumps definitely make a difference, however it remains to be seen how long that will be the case. Theoretically the Thinlight's EVA will withstand repeated compression a lot better and those bumps aren't very rigid. Next I compared how well it worked with the slipperiest pad in existence, the Nemo Tensor Elite. [When I rub the Y-55 on the Tensor](https://i.imgur.com/uOZ4n4I.jpeg), it moves a bit more than when I do the same with the Thinlight, but in actual use laying on the pad and moving around neither moves very much compared to without. I did the same with my DCF groundsheet with the same results. Another selling point for me was that I assumed the bumps would help prevent pokey things from rubbing against the Tensor instead falling into the wells, which it may very well do, but I also noticed that the Y-55 is a magnet to all dust, dirt, and hair on my floor. Much more so than the Thinlight. That's all I got for now. I'll be using it on a number of thru hikes starting in a couple months and will be able to give a long term review later this year. I think even for $30 it's a viable if not superior alternative to the Thinlight, especially for those that can't easily get one. --- [Pictures!](https://imgur.com/a/SLYlY2n)
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