This thread has been so helpful for me. I love my speedgoat 4s, and have been disappointed by the "improvements" made to the newest Speedgoat models. Not sure if this will gain any traction, but I made a petition with the hope of convincing Hoka to bring back the Speedgoat 4. If you feel similarly, please feel free to sign and share. Likely nothing will happen, but might as well try... [https://chng.it/ttq7VG4zsv](https://chng.it/ttq7VG4zsv)
30 years of collecting. Went through a Hoka phase from like 2018 to 2024. Bondi is super comfortable and I got these sweet like goretex suede speedgoats that are awesome looking. But in general the quality just shits after a few hundred steps. I dont really run I just go for hikes all over. Love trail runners most of the time when on certain trails but a lot of hikes the vomero 18 is my favorite.
Have you checked out the Mount to Coast T1?
I liked the Speedgoat 3, Evo, and 4 in particular, but also liked Topos and Altras. Both had their tradeoffs for me, and the T1 just checks all the boxes for me.
Have you checked out the Mount to Coast T1?
I liked the Speedgoat 3, Evo, and 4 in particular, but also liked Topos and Altras. Both had their tradeoffs for me, and the T1 just checks all the boxes for me.
I have around 300 miles in my Tomir 2.0s, I would generally describe the cushioning as medium firm and I generally lean towards high stack and medium plus bounce cushioning like new Speedgoats, Saucony shoes, Mount to Coast T1, and some of the newer shoes made with bounce in mind.
Don't know if you've tried, but some Leukotape on my achilles ahead of time entirely prevents achilles chafing and blistering for me.
If the Speedgoat is on the table for you and you have wider feet, I recommend checking out the Mount to Coast T1. It's what I wanted the Speedgoat and Topo shoes to be. It has a high stack but for me, the cushioning is not grossly soft, can still feel objects underfoot, and don't have issues picking up the pace.
I had Speedgoat 3s up until a few weeks ago (I only ran trails occasionally up until recently) and just got some 6s. They feel about the same to me, if not better.
I have at least 5 pairs of HOKA shoes, some of them are well over 800km and still going strong, not a single issue with them. I still have a pair of HOKA Torrent2 that I retired from running with 1200km due to midsole degradation, but otherwise have no issues and for walking they are still good. I retired a HOKA Challenger with 1090km, a Speedgoat3 with 980km, I still have a Speedgoat4 with >900km, and so on and so forth.
They have been the most reliable shoes I ever had.
I have at least 5 pairs of HOKA shoes, some of them are well over 800km and still going strong, not a single issue with them. I still have a pair of HOKA Torrent2 that I retired from running with 1200km due to midsole degradation, but otherwise have no issues and for walking they are still good. I retired a HOKA Challenger with 1090km, a Speedgoat3 with 980km, I still have a Speedgoat4 with >900km, and so on and so forth.
They have been the most reliable shoes I ever had.
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Versatile road-to-trail, but struggles on wet, technical downhills.
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