Speedgoat 4

This thread has been so helpful for me. I love my speedgoat 4s, and have been disappointed by the "improvements" made to the newest Speedgoat models. Not sure if this will gain any traction, but I made a petition with the hope of convincing Hoka to bring back the Speedgoat 4. If you feel similarly, please feel free to sign and share. Likely nothing will happen, but might as well try... [https://chng.it/ttq7VG4zsv](https://chng.it/ttq7VG4zsv)

30 years of collecting. Went through a Hoka phase from like 2018 to 2024. Bondi is super comfortable and I got these sweet like goretex suede speedgoats that are awesome looking. But in general the quality just shits after a few hundred steps. I dont really run I just go for hikes all over. Love trail runners most of the time when on certain trails but a lot of hikes the vomero 18 is my favorite.

Pick the one with better fit. Owning Speedgoat 4, 5 and 6 - good shoes, but the durability is a joke.

Have you checked out the Mount to Coast T1? I liked the Speedgoat 3, Evo, and 4 in particular, but also liked Topos and Altras. Both had their tradeoffs for me, and the T1 just checks all the boxes for me.

Have you checked out the Mount to Coast T1? I liked the Speedgoat 3, Evo, and 4 in particular, but also liked Topos and Altras. Both had their tradeoffs for me, and the T1 just checks all the boxes for me.

I have around 300 miles in my Tomir 2.0s, I would generally describe the cushioning as medium firm and I generally lean towards high stack and medium plus bounce cushioning like new Speedgoats, Saucony shoes, Mount to Coast T1, and some of the newer shoes made with bounce in mind. Don't know if you've tried, but some Leukotape on my achilles ahead of time entirely prevents achilles chafing and blistering for me. If the Speedgoat is on the table for you and you have wider feet, I recommend checking out the Mount to Coast T1. It's what I wanted the Speedgoat and Topo shoes to be. It has a high stack but for me, the cushioning is not grossly soft, can still feel objects underfoot, and don't have issues picking up the pace.

I tried the PDX and Tam 2 years ago and currently run in the MTC R1 (~100 miles) and T1 (~50 miles). I don't have them side by side though. The Speedlands were ok but nothing special, there were already other fast shoes like Nnormal Kerag and Salomon Pulsar series, and long run/ultra shoes like the Saucony Endorphin Edge that worked great for me at a fraction of the price and lighter to boot. I don't care for boa, they add to costs, bulk, maybe weight and for me would be a hardware solution for a minor problem having to do with attention to detail when just lacing up. R1 fits my feet well which is a major item for me, durability is good so far, and runs well enough. Will take time to compare to the Endorphin Speed 3s I enjoyed for a few years because I could get 900-1000+ miles/pair out of them and the current Endorphin Speed 4s are notably too narrow. T1 is what the Speedgoat or MTN Racer could be. Fits my wide feet well, good amount of bouncy cushioning that I don't feel like I'm fighting when picking up the pace, and solid traction.

I had Speedgoat 3s up until a few weeks ago (I only ran trails occasionally up until recently) and just got some 6s. They feel about the same to me, if not better.

Unfortunately, the materials on the SG6 changed quite a lot. From my point of view the shoe deteriorated since SG4. So check out whether you have a good fit: for my wide feet with a high span and the tougher materials it does not work out: too much space in the toe box, too much pressure on the span, a tougher mid sole and still (like the predessors) a limited feel for the underground. It is a pity, as I liked 3 and 4 a lot...

Unfortunately, the materials on the SG6 changed quite a lot. From my point of view the shoe deteriorated since SG4. So check out whether you have a good fit: for my wide feet with a high span and the tougher materials it does not work out: too much space in the toe box, too much pressure on the span, a tougher mid sole and still (like the predessors) a limited feel for the underground. It is a pity, as I liked 3 and 4 a lot...

I have at least 5 pairs of HOKA shoes, some of them are well over 800km and still going strong, not a single issue with them. I still have a pair of HOKA Torrent2 that I retired from running with 1200km due to midsole degradation, but otherwise have no issues and for walking they are still good. I retired a HOKA Challenger with 1090km, a Speedgoat3 with 980km, I still have a Speedgoat4 with >900km, and so on and so forth. They have been the most reliable shoes I ever had.

I have at least 5 pairs of HOKA shoes, some of them are well over 800km and still going strong, not a single issue with them. I still have a pair of HOKA Torrent2 that I retired from running with 1200km due to midsole degradation, but otherwise have no issues and for walking they are still good. I retired a HOKA Challenger with 1090km, a Speedgoat3 with 980km, I still have a Speedgoat4 with >900km, and so on and so forth. They have been the most reliable shoes I ever had.