Peregrine 11

My peregrine 11s just did the same. I was boulder climbing in Joshua tree and I’m a tall heavy guy, so maybe the stress on the soles tears them. I haven’t had any break from trail running and I’ve owned 5 pairs.

Wide midfoot is a tricky one because a lot of “wide” trail shoes mainly add space in the toebox, not the midfoot. A few models that could fit: **Saucony Peregrine (wide)** Not the widest midfoot ever, but the wide version does give a bit more platform underfoot and the rock protection is pretty solid for technical trails. **Brooks Cascadia (wide)** Often recommended for people who want a bit more stability and protection on technical terrain. The platform is fairly stable for longer trail efforts. For what you described (technical sections + 50K distance + some overpronation), something like MTN Racer wide or Cascadia wide might be closer to what you’re looking for than Speedgoats. Also sometimes runners with wider midfeet have luck going half size up, since it can give a bit more volume through the midfoot area.

I've run in Peregrines (11, 12, & 13) and I find the Inov-8 Trailfly (The Standard. Not the Speed. Not the Zero (if you're in the UK)) to ride similarly. They're a 6mm drop instead of a 4mm, but they feel very similar under-foot. The mid-sole is on the firmer-side, but with decent energy return. They have a rock-plate. Grip is great where I run (dry, hardpack, a little rocky). Runs on pavement just fine since the lugs aren't extremely aggressive. They have a relatively wide forefoot. I'd size up at least half size, maybe a full size. I've got about 500 miles on mine, uppers are perfectly intact, but horrendously stained because I bought the white ones since I found them deeply discounted. Outsole is more worn, but still completely intact and functional.

I haven't had any issues with my 13's and have over 2,600km on them. I see people saying they are not a good shoe but they've been solid for me. Seems like they're a bit hit and miss. I found the 11's to be excellent while the 12's had rather poor uppers that needed repairing after just 500km The latest 16's look like they should be good with engineered mesh uppers and vibration soles.

I’m just at the edge case of smashed toes with my peregrine 11s. So it depends. Ofc models change as well. Maybe old ones were wide? I think they added fabric to the toes later on.

Very well. Ultimately you’re choice I can’t give you exact models but I do think topo shoes are by default not zero drop. I do trail running in saucony peregrines and I think they’re 4mm drop and while not wide per se they don’t seem to be overall exaggerated oval ish. Worth a try on maybe?

I’ve had decent luck with 4mm saucony shoes. But another great training aid for me is to hike in zero drop for building strength and run in the slightly cushier shoes. Might help keep you more robust.

I’d believe it. I love the feel of Peregrines but their quality control/durability is honestly pathetic. I owed 10s, 11s and 12s and whilst Peregrines were never really hitting those 600km+ durability that other shoes got, they tend to be cheap enough to make it worth while. After my 12s hardly lasted 300km I called it quits on Peregrines until I hear there are improvements to their design.

Unless I’m going mad, I have a pair of saucony trail shoes with PWRRUN+ midsoles.

I loved the older Peregrine's but the new ones quality is absolute trash. I've moved over to Nnormals and don't see myself going back. Tomirs will probably fit your foot best, Kjerag is more "like" the Peregrine IMO (stiffer foam, lighter) but you may find them tight. Good luck!

Ive been happy with the saucony peregrine esp now that the sole eliminated the portion which allowed for rock intrusion. Can anyone provide insight between these and asics?

GTX Trail runner shoes. Personally use suacony peregrines. Ran through puddles just fine.