Peregrine Series

My Peregrine 15’s soles are starting to split after about 100 miles. Bummed because they fit me better than any other shoes I’ve had or tried, but the durability is as bad as everyone said. I have a really tough time finding a good fitting shoe because my feet are widest at the midfoot and most wide fitting shoes have more room at the toe box. I tried on almost everything at REI last time I was in store and the usual recs weren’t a great fit. I’ve had Topos and Altras, I still felt like my feet were hanging over the edges and cramped. No preference for zero drop or not. Feet are kind of flat, but I do have some arch. Any recs for similar shoes or is this an issue that I need to fix by improving my arches?

You can see it on the middle lug in the 3rd and 4th row from the top. This was the first time I noticed. I think it was probably recent, maybe even over the weekend because I put about 20 miles on the shoes in Sedona/Flagstaff and terrain was rough going up Mt Humphreys. I thought maybe it was a design, but only this shoe had it. Other than the split, the lugs and shoes in general feel like they’re wearing out quicker than any other shoes I’ve owned. I run on sharp rocky terrain since I’m in Vegas, but because none of my other shoes have had the same problem, I can’t write it off as that. Not happy with the quality and would probably avoid the brand as a whole in the future.

They’re splitting on the bottom part of the sole. You can see it on the middle lug in the 3rd and 4th row. I thought it was part of the design, but it’s only on one shoe. Overall, really not happy with the quality and probably wouldn’t buy another pair of Saucony shoes. I got them at REI and they’re still within the return window, so I’m going to bring them back in.

j’ai eux la peregrine 12/13  impeccable mais la 14 beaucoup de problèmes ,Saucony n’a pas respecté les tailles,ducoup si fais du 44 il faut prendre 44,5.Problème de frottement au talon même avec la bonne taille.Bref elle n’est pas conçu comme  la peregrine 12 et 13 .Pouf moi celle la est un raté

j’ai eux la peregrine 12/13  impeccable mais la 14 beaucoup de problèmes ,Saucony n’a pas respecté les tailles,ducoup si fais du 44 il faut prendre 44,5.Problème de frottement au talon même avec la bonne taille.Bref elle n’est pas conçu comme  la peregrine 12 et 13 .Pouf moi celle la est un raté

11 Road: - Saucony Endorfine Speed 3 (retired) - Adidas Takumi Sen 8 (intervals, ~5k races) - 2x Adidas Evo SL (daily trainer, 3rd pair ready to go) - Adidas Pro 4 (just used for a HM) - ASICS Superblast 2 (used for long runs, ultras, dislike) - Brooks Adrenaline 22 (retired, just for hikes) Trail: - Saucony Peregrine 13 (stiff, only when muddy) - Hoka Speedgoat 5 (have miles left, but Zegama are infinitely more comfortable - sort of retired) - Nike Zegama 2 (daily trail trainer / trail ultras, new pair ready to go) - Adidas Agravic Speed ultra (short trail races, gives me heel blisters)

I have a pair of Saucony Peregrine 15s which at first I found uncomfortable, before I realised that my real issue was my socks rather than my shoes. They're optimised for mud but resilient enough to run along the roads at a fair lick between trails, and comfortable enough for rocky terrain. Great at letting water back out too. I've worn them for the Seventh Seal 50k and the Ranger Ultras Peak District North with no complaints

I agree with what @eastsidegrind said. And I think maybe you mean “a stable shoe” rather than “a stability shoe.” Stability running shoes provide structured support for runners who overpronate (feet roll inward excessively), to guide the foot into a more neutral, aligned stride, using features like firmer foam, guide rails, or extra arch support in the midsole. They offer a more balanced, supportive ride for those with flexible arches or who experience form breakdown when tired, unlike neutral shoes, which lack this built-in correction. It seems you are looking for something that is simply more stable under your feet so you don’t turn your ankle, etc. In the last few years, I had a pretty decent roll of my ankle, and now it keeps happening. I’ve noticed that it happens more often on a flat road with my Saucony Triumph 20s than it does on trails with my Saucony Peregrine 15s. The Peregrines are 10-13mm lower overall than the Triumphs, with a 4mm drop vs 10mm. Not trying to sell you on Saucony, but you get the general idea. I really honk I was rolling my ankle because of the Triumph’s overall height, and I feel really “stable” in the Peregrines, even though I use the Peregrines in much more uneven terrain. So, IMO, you should look at shoes with a lower overall height for a more stable run. (Unless, of course, I was wrong and you actually are wanting a true “stability shoe”)

I'm still running in 13s and have no problem after 350 km.

Yeah I have 13s and they're fine. The pair I wore for my ultra is at 350 km and I still think of them as new.

I don't think anyone else thinks Saucony Peregrines have "a decent amount of cushioning." Most people would never run an ultra in them for that reason (though I did, just a 50k). I have a bad ankle but my issue is rolling outwards. Saucony Peregrines feel good and secure for me as long as I do heel lock (which I do on all shoes) and tighten the laces. I feel comfortable bombing down hills in them.

Peregrines are considered to not have much cushioning, they're relatively firm with good ground feel. They're not minimalist but they're low stack and low drop.

Those are my exact two pair of trail shoes, pairs I bought specifically because I don't like cushioning. Not much out there other than barefoot shoes are as low stack as Bushidos. Peregrines DON'T have "a decent amount of cushion." Bushidos just have even less.

That's a way higher stack than Peregrines which is the opposite of OP needs.

The two trail runners I really like are La Sportiva Bushido 2 (except they're slightly too narrow for my toes so I can't only wear the thinnest socks and I had to stop using them for longer runs), and Saucony Peregrines (except they're a little shorter than expected so I had to size up another 0.5 compared to my road Saucony). They're both firm, lower cushioning, lower stack (6 and 4 mm) with good traction. Peregrines are infamously not durable so I wouldn't wear them all around town, just for hiking and trail rubbing, but they're very comfortable. Personally I wore them for my ultra.

I strongly disagree. I wear Saucony pretty much exclusively (Kinvara, Ride, Speed, Peregrine) and I CAN'T wear Salomon at all. They don't work with my feet. I've tried several times and I get blisters within 5 km with every model I've tried. So if Salomon works for you, great, but as a Kinvara lover, Peregrine is my only answer. They're both 4mm drop and minimally cushioned and I like them both a lot.

I get that blisters on my arch. Salomon have much more prominent arch support which doesn't work with my feet.

I have different setups for different températures. 0 to -5, -5 to -10, -10 to - 15 (celcius). Rarely go out below that because I need to be dressed too warm not to freeze my extremities and then my body overheats. Most important is the feet. Merino wool socks with Saucony Peregrine Ice's. You have to forget pace, distances, times. Just plow through at the pace you can. I find it harder on the knees and ankles though. Cannot go out for long runs.