Peregrine 12

Fascinating. What’s your typical terrain? My trails are far more varied, rock/root/boulder/dirt/gravel so my 12s easily have 300k and my cleats don’t look as worn as yours. Do you use these for lots of uphill grinds on rocky terrain hence all the forefoot wear? I do wear orthotics so I don’t think I get nearly as much forefoot twist, but I’d certainly think it’s a material/laminate construction issue there.

I switch 3. Cumulus, 2000s, and peregrines

I’m hoping to get some suggestions from other runners with wider feet. I absolutely loved the original Saucony Xodus Ultras, but I’ve finally run through my stockpile and need to find a new go-to trail shoe.  About me: I’m a heavier runner (200lbs) with wider feet, so I need a good toe box and enough room in the midfoot (too snug and I end up with pain after longer runs.)  Here’s what I’ve tried recently: * Altra Experience Wild - Good fit, enjoying these so far. * Topo Ultraventure 4 - Also a solid fit, no complaints. * Topo MNT Racer 3 - Too narrow in the midfoot, caused discomfort after a 10-miler. * Saucony Xodus Ultra 3 - Unfortunately too narrow overall for me. * Peregrine 12's (wide) - Good for technical routes and quicker paces.  I’m open to rotating a few models for different distances and terrain. I’m curious about the following shoes but am open to other suggestions. Not a big fan of zero drops. Have caused calf issues in the past. * Brooks Catamount / Caldera / Cascadia * North Face Altamesa 500 * Norda 001 * NNormal Tomir 2.0  Would love to hear from anyone with similar need, especially if you’ve found a solid Xodus Ultra alternative that works for wider feet. Bonus points for shoes that can handle longer miles or varied terrain.

That's crazy, I consistently have pinky toe blisters with my peregrines on. What's wrong with my feet :(

I made the mistake of buying two pairs of peregrine 12 a few years ago. Both got warrantied within 100km and both 13 replacements broke immediately as well. Then they replaced them with one pair of peregrine 14 and between all of them together they lasted shorter than my peregrine 10s

Also in Northern UK and I run a mix of trail trails and forestry tracks. Saucony peregrines 12 for me, they have the goretex version too.

12 + 13 were utter garbage when they were new let alone as 3 year old new stock. 15 was back to being great and the 16 is looking similar.

I haven't had any issues with my 13's and have over 2,600km on them. I see people saying they are not a good shoe but they've been solid for me. Seems like they're a bit hit and miss. I found the 11's to be excellent while the 12's had rather poor uppers that needed repairing after just 500km The latest 16's look like they should be good with engineered mesh uppers and vibration soles.