Peregrine 3 Trail Shoe

I Have had the Peregrine 3s and 4s, loved them so much, ran some 50+ mile trail ultras in them no problem, comfortable from start to finish. Just bought the new 5s and they were horrible. I can't work out how they were so bad. I have seen other people say how much they love them so it's a clearly a good shoe, I just can't work out why it feels so different? Anyone else noticed anything odd about them?

Bushido fan here as well. I used to be a Peregrine stan but when they changed the fit 3-4 years ago I could no longer wear them. The Bushido seems similar to the old Peregrine - to me anyway. Grippy, good ground contact, comfortable. And perfect for rocky Colorado trails.

I sort of think of the Cascadia as the yardstick by which every other shoe can be measured. Other shoes can be lighter, higher or lower, etc… but the Cascadia is kind of like that “ideal” Mario Kart build where you could max out your points in one specific area to be optimal for your style and situation, that shoe does everything pretty well. I’ve been a Cascadia fan since they launched, although I drifted away for awhile to the Pure Grit when that was a thing, then the Perigine and the Altra Lone Peak, neither of which worked well for me. V19 has been fantastic on the rocks in AZ - reasonably light, pretty resilient, no issues with stability.

I loved them…. But they just got ripped apart on all the rocks here

I loved the older Peregrine's but the new ones quality is absolute trash. I've moved over to Nnormals and don't see myself going back. Tomirs will probably fit your foot best, Kjerag is more "like" the Peregrine IMO (stiffer foam, lighter) but you may find them tight. Good luck!

Wide midfoot is a tricky one because a lot of “wide” trail shoes mainly add space in the toebox, not the midfoot. A few models that could fit: **Saucony Peregrine (wide)** Not the widest midfoot ever, but the wide version does give a bit more platform underfoot and the rock protection is pretty solid for technical trails. **Brooks Cascadia (wide)** Often recommended for people who want a bit more stability and protection on technical terrain. The platform is fairly stable for longer trail efforts. For what you described (technical sections + 50K distance + some overpronation), something like MTN Racer wide or Cascadia wide might be closer to what you’re looking for than Speedgoats. Also sometimes runners with wider midfeet have luck going half size up, since it can give a bit more volume through the midfoot area.

I’ve had decent luck with 4mm saucony shoes. But another great training aid for me is to hike in zero drop for building strength and run in the slightly cushier shoes. Might help keep you more robust.

Very well. Ultimately you’re choice I can’t give you exact models but I do think topo shoes are by default not zero drop. I do trail running in saucony peregrines and I think they’re 4mm drop and while not wide per se they don’t seem to be overall exaggerated oval ish. Worth a try on maybe?

GTX Trail runner shoes. Personally use suacony peregrines. Ran through puddles just fine.