Peregrine 15
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My Peregrine 15’s soles are starting to split after about 100 miles. Bummed because they fit me better than any other shoes I’ve had or tried, but the durability is as bad as everyone said. I have a really tough time finding a good fitting shoe because my feet are widest at the midfoot and most wide fitting shoes have more room at the toe box. I tried on almost everything at REI last time I was in store and the usual recs weren’t a great fit. I’ve had Topos and Altras, I still felt like my feet were hanging over the edges and cramped. No preference for zero drop or not. Feet are kind of flat, but I do have some arch. Any recs for similar shoes or is this an issue that I need to fix by improving my arches?
You can see it on the middle lug in the 3rd and 4th row from the top. This was the first time I noticed. I think it was probably recent, maybe even over the weekend because I put about 20 miles on the shoes in Sedona/Flagstaff and terrain was rough going up Mt Humphreys. I thought maybe it was a design, but only this shoe had it. Other than the split, the lugs and shoes in general feel like they’re wearing out quicker than any other shoes I’ve owned. I run on sharp rocky terrain since I’m in Vegas, but because none of my other shoes have had the same problem, I can’t write it off as that. Not happy with the quality and would probably avoid the brand as a whole in the future.
They’re splitting on the bottom part of the sole. You can see it on the middle lug in the 3rd and 4th row. I thought it was part of the design, but it’s only on one shoe. Overall, really not happy with the quality and probably wouldn’t buy another pair of Saucony shoes. I got them at REI and they’re still within the return window, so I’m going to bring them back in.
I have a pair of Saucony Peregrine 15s which at first I found uncomfortable, before I realised that my real issue was my socks rather than my shoes. They're optimised for mud but resilient enough to run along the roads at a fair lick between trails, and comfortable enough for rocky terrain. Great at letting water back out too. I've worn them for the Seventh Seal 50k and the Ranger Ultras Peak District North with no complaints
I agree with what @eastsidegrind said. And I think maybe you mean “a stable shoe” rather than “a stability shoe.” Stability running shoes provide structured support for runners who overpronate (feet roll inward excessively), to guide the foot into a more neutral, aligned stride, using features like firmer foam, guide rails, or extra arch support in the midsole. They offer a more balanced, supportive ride for those with flexible arches or who experience form breakdown when tired, unlike neutral shoes, which lack this built-in correction. It seems you are looking for something that is simply more stable under your feet so you don’t turn your ankle, etc. In the last few years, I had a pretty decent roll of my ankle, and now it keeps happening. I’ve noticed that it happens more often on a flat road with my Saucony Triumph 20s than it does on trails with my Saucony Peregrine 15s. The Peregrines are 10-13mm lower overall than the Triumphs, with a 4mm drop vs 10mm. Not trying to sell you on Saucony, but you get the general idea. I really honk I was rolling my ankle because of the Triumph’s overall height, and I feel really “stable” in the Peregrines, even though I use the Peregrines in much more uneven terrain. So, IMO, you should look at shoes with a lower overall height for a more stable run. (Unless, of course, I was wrong and you actually are wanting a true “stability shoe”)
Yep same. I can vouch for durability - great shoe, underrated!
I only got 180mi on my Peregrine 15s before the inside stitching around the heel split and the shoe lost all of it's structure. SG5s also didn't last long for me (the upper splits where it meets the midsole), but were great for the first 200mi. I'm onto Mount To Coast T1s and enjoying the combination of toe box width, traction, and stability (despite being a decent stack height of PEBA).. will report back on the longevity in a couple months.
I've run those trails and in Speedgoats and Ultraventures, either would be fine. If you're running the 50K, the Peregrine could work too. It's a good idea to have 2 pairs, and I'd rather use both in training so they feel the same for race day. 1 pair will work fine a lot of the time, only consideration would be if you had 300 miles of trail training before race day or something like that, maybe not ideal to start a race with busted shoes.
The Saucony Peregrine 15 has stayed pretty true to its roots with a low(er) stack height and the same 4mm drop - always a great option based on what it sounds like you’re looking for!
Can echo this. Same foot shape issue and have both the Hierro and the Peregrine 15. Haven’t ran enough in the Hierro to comment on durability yet
I’d say the width was the same as my Peregrine 15’s which are tight and the issue I’m having is over about 15km my smaller toes are getting really sore. I was trying to replace them with something else that would also have good grip but wanted something wider. Unfortunately it wasn’t the Tomirs. I ran 34km in the Peregrines yesterday and my toes hate me right now. In the UK you have to order Mount to Coast direct from their website and they ship from China in around a week. A bit annoying you can’t try them on easier with how different sizing is brand to brand. Oh and if you order some I found a discount code on YouTube CRAIG10 for 10% making the H1’s £135 and you get a free pair of socks and free shipping
I found my Peregrine 15’s started with quite a stiff heel cup that took a while to soften. I always wore with darn tough merino socks and a bit of body glide applied to my heels. I never actually got a blister but did feel like it was a possibility. Shame because apart from that they feel pretty plush when you put them on.
I've been using a pair of Saucony Peregrine 15s; it's currently on sale so not a bad buy even if half pavement runs wear it down a bit. However, while it's great on its own in soft snow, no basic trail shoe is going to save you on ice. I hate running with them but that's when the microspikes come out.
My suggestions are Asics Trabuco 13, Brooks Cascadia 19, or Saucony Peregrine 15. None of these are stability shoes but they have mid-stack cushion and work pretty well with different kinds of stability-type mechanisms in them.