Topo Athletic - Terraventure 4 WP

I am about the same size as you and wore the same Salomons for years — bought several pairs in a row. Now I am fully converted to a cushiony trail runner and wear Topos for most hikes, except where there’s likely to be mud, snow, wet or off-trail walking, in which case I reach for my GTX boots.  My feet are much cooler and happier in cushioned trail runners. I’m about the same size as you and can carry a similar load in trail runners no problem. In fact, the cushiony soles save me from the metatarsal joint inflammation I sometimes got when carrying a full pack in Salomons.  For the best of both worlds, you can also get something that looks more like a boot and has waterproofing with cushiony soles — I have the Topo Trailventure and Salomon Elixir. Both look a little like clown shoes but the ride is so squishy and nice!

All you need is one pair of trail runners. People get way too caught up in the consumer/marketing mentality and it’s all mostly bullshit or at least only minimally worth it. If you are a marathon runner or hiking technical mountaineering trails, maybe get separate shoes for both. But you certainly don’t need 4 pairs of shoes for walking, hiking, running and trail running. I have a pair of topo terradventures that are goretex. I use them for running on pavement & trail, hiking, walking through the airport, mushroom hunting in the woods, comfy work shoes, the casual bike ride… Ive even climbed peaks with them. Just get something that fits your foot and has good grip. Waterproof is an added bonus for me.

Topo Terraventure 4

Hi, I sell shoes at a local gear shop close to the PCT. You need to give me more information about your feet, your size and width. Chances are your shoes are too small. I personally hiked with the Topo Terraventure and love them, and I’ve also hiked over 1000 miles on the Ultraventure. Mainly I like their durability compared to Altra and HOKA. But again, it’s whatever shoe works for your foot and you’ve given zero info on that.

TV4 isn't quite as good as TV3, but still way better than comparable options I've tried. TV4 does have a bit more upper protection and drainage in the back.

I’ve gotten 500+ miles on several Topo models, though I hear Norda 001 last even longer.

Same. On my 3rd pair of Terraventure 4s right now. Each pair lasted for 550+ miles (885kms) and they’ve been great for me in all conditions. Snow, mud, technical trails in the forest and the desert. They are the best

Topo Terraventures and Mtn Racers are also great trail shoes with a wide toe box. Low drop but not zero drop, so an easier transition from Brooks. And Topos last way longer than Altras in my experience. Was only getting 400 miles on Altras and I get close to 600 miles on Topos.

Timps are high cushion. I know it sounds counterintuitive but for many people, it helps to use a less cushioned shoe in order to strengthen the foot. For trail I typically run in Topo Terraventures (wide toe box, low drop, low cushion) and after a tough, rocky 100k my feet were fine. It might take some getting used to, but it’s worth it!

I recently did a 100k that had a lot of this type of terrain. I was not used to it and it caused a lot of hip pain (I think from all the stabilizing I had to do). My feet were fine and looked like nothing had happened to them the next day. Zero blisters. I swear by Trail Toes foot lube and XO Skin toe socks. Shoes are really personal but for me Topo Terraventures are the best. They actually don’t have a ton of cushion which I think makes my feet stronger. I also do foot strengthening exercises as part of my routine.

These are my go-to. They last me about 575 miles on average.

Really? I’ve worn Topo Terraventures during many ultras at this point, including a few that were very technical. They perform very well! What’s different about the Xodus for you?

Came here to say this! Don’t be scared about the drop, such worries are not nearly as important on the trails, especially with such a significant elevation profile. A larger drop will not even factor in at all for some of those ascents/descents, in terms of foot placement… The Terraventure would be my absolute top pick for anything technical and steep like you are describing. They work great on buffed out single track too. Rock plate on the forefoot, slightly lower than average cushioning, yet stable enough to feel super confident charging downhill. They also have a natural footbed with a narrower mid foot than Altra, which means your foot gets to splay naturally while still being able to get that lockdown feel that you sometimes just can’t get with Altra. Seriously, do not let the drop deter you here. You would be completely shunning some remarkably capable beasts for the exact terrain you describe.

Both those shoes are much higher stack and I would not recommend either for technical terrain. MTN Racer 3 *could* be a good option if you can get a good midfoot lockdown, but it lacks in that department in my opinion. But its stack is still fairly high, and you lose a ton of ground feel vs Terraventure. Not sure about the new 4 version. Vista’s stack is much too high to ever be considered suitable for technical terrain. I know of the terrain you are referring to in the NE and I would not recommend either for it, personally.

How long are your Traverse lasting? I've had multiple pairs of Terraventures and they consistently last me 700 or more miles.

I'm on my 7th pair of Terraventures and they consistently last me 700 miles and I generally retire them due to a hole in the side. I don't think I've ever experienced more than an inch tear though. To be honest I don't take anyone who refers to things as bombproof seriously.

I had 5 pairs of the 3s and then 2 pairs of the 4s. I just get the current model, but I went through 4 pairs on the PCT and Topo hasn't been updating them yearly.

Topo athletic, great toe box too. Unfortunately their website sucks so it’s hard to filter the features you want (e.g. a rock plate). I have the ultraventure 4 pros and the terraventure 4’s, both awesome for the mountains where I live.

I actually wear topo athletic terra ventures as my regular shoes around town here in Calgary. When I was away for a few years I had the same issue and thus wore my topo ultra ventures on the plane. They were so comfortable for travelling they became my go to travel shoes and hiking shoes. So now I run two sets at a time, one gtx for shoulder season and one non gtx for my regular backpacking.

I just bought the Topo Terraventure 4 and love them Wide toe box, Vibram outsole, all around superb Before them I was using Topo Ultraventure 2 and they were also fantastic (also Vibram outsoles and wide toe box)

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Got some new topo terraventure 4 shoes. Got my first run in this morning just over two miles on pavement, just over two miles on trails. Trails are wooded/brushy hilly and a bjt rocky in places on my property. Really like them so far weren’t bad on pavement and were great for me on the trail. Have used new balance in the past a fair bit as I try to buy usa made stuff. Want to try a pair of Carson’s would like to the get the standard issues ones. Wish they made half sizes 8.5 usually fits me best. Have also used brooks, and Asics too. Not a big fan of the newer 990’s trying to transition to zero drop shoes. Before the topos I tried some Merrill Moab flights I got on clearance. The felt good trying them on but rubbed my arches wrong while running. Toughed it out with them since I already bought them and took them with me on a deployment for pt shoes. Anyways sorry for the ramble pics of the trail area and terraventures. https://preview.redd.it/fm6l8swb9h9f1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67cca5826cf6123d7232e21677801b1a37c1cc75