Klymit - Static V Series

I love my Klymit Static V insulated

I've been using the Klymit Static V for about 5 years (summer only) and while I find it comfortable and the weight/pack-ability it great, I think I'm going to replace it with a Nemo Tensor All Season.

I upgraded and it was worth it. But the klymit served me well for a long time. Im just a restless side sleeper so nothing is perfect

It's tough to find a quality sleeping pad with an R-Value of 5 around the $100 price point. What type of weather will you be hiking in? My off the cuff recommendation within your budget is the [Kylmit Static V (Insulated) ](https://amzn.to/4irkjTc). It's got an (alleged) R-Value of 4.4. I have their non-insulated version of this pad as a spare pad that friends borrow for summer hikes. It's lightweight and comfortable. I've heard that the insulated version (linked above) is on the "Meh" side of the spectrum for R. If you really need an R-Value of at least 5, I'd go higher and go with a [Thermorest](https://amzn.to/4htamDn). I don't like being cold at night 😂 I've got a slightly older version of this pad and it's super warm and comfortable, though it's a little "crinkly" when you move around.

Klymit Static V Luxe. I have the insulated version, and it's amazing - wide, very comfortable and warm!

Ahh ok then yea low or no R-value would be fine in those cases. Klymit also makes a good lightweight low R-value pad, it's what I used in Texas and worked quite well in warmer weather. Not as heavy or thick as the one you linked, but much lighter and packs down smaller. Great if you're backpacking but there are better options if car camping imo. Exped Ultra 1R is also a good pad, the more insulated 3 and 5 are also popular for colder temps. I've used the Dura versions which are a heavier/more insulated version and it was comfortable. I've also heard good things about Nemo Tensor but have no experience with it.

For £50 you’re not going to get the same warmth as your old Ether, but you can get something comfy and reliable like the Klymit Static V If you want something easy to grab in-store go to a Decathlon and look at their Trek series pads which are pretty affordable too. [5 Best Ultralight Sleeping Pads in 2025](https://alaskanarrows.com/5-best-ultralight-sleeping-pads-for-backpacking/) could help with others as well Cheers mate

I’ve hiked several sections. My first year, I bought a super cheap sleeping pad and never fell asleep except for maybe 5 minutes over 48 hours. I purchased a Klymit Static V 2.5 sleeping pad and used it on my most recent hike. While it was better, I still didn’t sleep much. I’m willing to spend whatever money it takes to get a comfortable sleeping pad for me. I’m a side sleeper so I started looking at what I think are 4-inch sleeping pads. I’m also going to buy a pillow as I think that will help. What recommendations would you have for ultra comfortable sleeping pads and pillows? I’m willing to sacrifice whatever room and money for a sleeping pad. A mid-grade pillow should be fine. Any help is appreciated.

Yes it's a matter of seeing what works for you. Personally - I am a side and stomach sleeper. Mummy type bags and narrow tiny pads suck. I used to use a Nemo bag with a sleeve to receive a Klymit V. This worked ok, but not great at all. I finally got fed up and too the extra weight. I now use a Big Agnes Rapide double wide and a Kelty Galactic down rectangular bag. Went on a trip last week and it was the best camping sleep I ever had.

Yup. I went from a yoga mat in my 20s to a 1” pad to a 2.5” pad and now that hit 40 I splurged for the exped mat.  For backpacking I still use the klymit

I second this. Used it for years.

Late the the conversation but I've had a Klymit V for about 4 years and use it regularly. I'm an older camper and need more padding than the thinner closed cell mats. Only one puncture in the years I've used it but easy to patch and still going strong. Only downside is that it takes time to inflate.

Yeah I’ve struggled with a number of pads. Come to the conclusion that the only non hammock solution for me is a pad with foam in it, and there’s no really light self inflating foam pads by its nature. I treat my gear respectfully but I definitely don’t choose gear to bring into the woods which needs to be babied, except for maybe my down quilt. For now the most comfortable inflatable I’ve found weirdly is the klymit static V. As a bonus it’s pretty durable. Definitely not the lightest though

Glad you had success with it! I was super hyped about it from all the accounts of its comfort. Right now my “light” ground sleeping loadout is a klymit insulated paired with Nemo switchback (most comfortable combo I’ve found outside of self inflating) with tarp and bivvy. If I’m going less than 8 miles for an overnight and either the weather is extreme winter or I have a camping partner I haul my stupidly heavy mondo king pad and split the weight of the 3 man tent between us. Been leaning towards just going fully back to my hammmock but I think I’ve determined that I need an open cell/self inflating style pad to prevent hip pain on the ground.

Don't do it. Bought a cheap pad with air cells like that for my first backpacking trip, absolutely miserable sleeping experience and I have a very high tolerance to sleeping in uncomfortable situations. Laying directly on the ground was better, and whatever r rating was claimed was absolute bs. We were in a small canyon next to running water and an absolutely wicked wind storm kicked up, I froze my ass off that night, spent most of awake trying to get warm and willing the sun to come up. Second pad was a Klymit with an allegedly good r rating, same air cell style shown in the photo you attached. Did three days at 8000 feet in early March in Southwest Utah, froze my absolute ass off. I had Bought a 15 degree Big Agnes bad to match my fancy new Klymit pad in an attempt to avoid being cold again. was in a two person ultralight tent less than a foot away from one of my companions, and still woke up COLD. I'm talking laying in your bag scared to move and hit a cold spot, praying for the sun to rise, dreading going to sleep the following night cold Finally forked over the cash for a quality Thermarest Prolite Plus and I'm here to tell you for 150 bucks the difference in sleep quality but more importantly WARMTH is insane. Did three days at 9,500-10,000 feet also in Southwest Utah and slept like a baby every night. Spent a week in star valley Wyoming sleeping on a cot in a field about 15 feet away from the very cold Flat Creek with the Thermarest pad and a 15 Degree Big Agnes bag. would wake up in the morning with my bag completely iced over with frozen morning dew as well as the entire field, I was warm as could be in that bag, like I was in bed at home. Sleeping on a wack pad is something I would never wish on anybody. I would be more willing to roll the dice on my bag than my pad. If temperature isn't a concern whatsoever then go for it I guess but that air cell style is more uncomfortable than sleeping on the ground, I'd rather have a fourteen dollar foam pad than that air cell dogshit. Spend the money, sleep comfortably, enjoy your time. There are corners that can be cut to save you money, but your sleep system is absolutely not the place to do it. At best you could be uncomfortable when you're trying to recover so you can go have fun and walk a bunch with your friends, at worst your life could be in danger.

I picked up a Big Agnes Q Core Deluxe on clearance last year for $119 at Public Lands. R value of 4.3 and 25oz. It's very comfortable. At least as comfortable as my mattress at home. I upgraded from a sub $100 Klymit pad I found on Amazon that had the same R rating but was lighter, but didn't feel as warm and was much less comfortable. Still, it was adequate. Amazon has the NeoAir Xlite NXT on sale now for $179. It's am R4.5 pad that's lighter than mine. A lot of people like it. You should check for sales right after Christmas. Thermarest, Big Agnes, Nemo, Exped, and Sea to Summit make a range of good pads at various price points with different R values and weights.My wife went with a very high R Exped pad and loves it.

[U of MN has outdoor gear rentals open to the general public.](https://recwell.umn.edu/recreational-activities/equipment/outdoor-gear-rentals) [So does UMD.](https://umdrsop.d.umn.edu/rental-center) Or any outfitter can help with one or two items to rent. If looking to buy, I’ve had good luck with Klymit Static V pads. Not the lightest pad, but inexpensive and works. Look for an insulated one if you are expecting low temps and it runs about $82-90 right now online.

We bought some Klymit Static V camp pads about 8 years ago and they have held up well. They have a few lighter options too at a reasonable price.

I second Klymit for a pad. Ours has lasted 7 years and is still going strong. For a bag, I got a steal on an REI used bag online. I’d check there first. Or, look for an outdoor gear rental place. REI is one place, but two state universities near us in Minnesota have a gear rental store open to everyone. It’s a good way to start without a huge monetary cost.

I just Sept on the rei campwell for 7 nights. Best sleep I've ever gotten camping. I've had the klymit static v, and a foam thermarest. This thing is pretty big and not heavy but not light. Had it strapped to my Ibex 450 for the the entire week riding the lower half of the MABDR. I use 2 rok straps and it never moved. Absolutely love this thing. Both of my riding buddies were on blow up mats one Nemo and one thermarest. Both were cold and not sleeping well the whole trip. I'm a stomach and side sleeper.

I have the Klymit and was shockingly surprised that how comfortable it was in my mid 40s on the hard ground. I even had room for an inflatable pillow because of it

Just make sure whatever you buy is actually ASTM tested for the R-value. So avoid Klymit for example. If it’s not ASTM tested, they can make up any number they want to. It’s night and day between my Nemo Tensor all-season and my Klymit Static-V Insulated

Try the Klymit Static V. My family has used it for years and years. Packs up small, and the bag it comes in very uniquely becomes the pump to fill it. No complaints.

It's subjective. I just upgraded from a klymit static v. My top 2 choices were the nemo tensor or the thermorest neoloft. I went with the tensor. I've used it on 11 nights in the last month. Absolutely love it. My buddy preferred the neoloft but hasn't bought it yet. I also got the nemo filo pillow. Huge upgrade from the sea to summit air pillow I had before.

I would not recommend a ccf pad though I take a small piece to sit/kneel on at camp. Found the Thermarest Neo-air uncomfortable and a pain to inflate; bought a Klymit Static V2 at less than half the cost and they’re definitely on to something with their design. It’s a few more ounces than the neoair. I’m a side and stomach sleeper and slept like a baby on my last 5-night trip. It seems thin at first so I was skeptical but its wide/channeled design does a miraculous job of cradling your body and distributing the weight. Honestly, best pad I’ve used backpacking in 25 years.

A 2nd on the Klymit. I have a Klymit static v and recommend it for value. It packs down pretty small 5x9” stuff sack. It has insulation in it though it is not self inflating. Been pretty comfortable on it down to below freezing temperatures, and it has held up so far in the rock beds of the Ozarks where I do a lot of weekenders.

I’ve had good luck with the Klymit pads. I use the insulated static v lite pads. The insulation helps but calculating an R value is a bit problematic because the waffle pattern allows the sleeping bag underneath you to contribute to the warmth of the sleep system. I got refurbished pads off eBay. The valves have been reliable and I haven’t felt cold easily into the high 30s using a conventional sleeping bag. I will use a lightweight quilt with those pads into the low 50s.

I went from a Klymit to a Big Agnes. Night and day difference. 

Walmart in the US has Klymit ones for like $40 and they’re not terrible quality. I use it for bikepacking or solo backpacking. And they’re smaller than a Nalgene!

Klymit is known to completely bullshit their R-value ratings. They had an insulated pad rated at 4.4 that they later (had to?) revise to 1.9. I personally wouldn't trust them. Big Agnes pads are leagues better and have excellent customer service if you have a failure. They replaced my broken pad no questions asked, no shipping costs.

That's not to say they aren't a good affordable option if you're camping in hot weather, but just stay clear of the insulated claims.

Just spend a week using the Klymit and it was not very comfortable. It isn’t very warm and of the two I bought both of them wouldn’t hold air in them. It’s the valve system they use, it leaks air. I returned them. I did like the size of the Klymit, it hardly takes up any room. I think a standard nemo folding pad would be better than Klymit.

With the upcoming REI sale on REI and Nemo sleeping pads, I am considering upgrading. I have a klymit static V, and have never once slept well on it (2 trips). I don’t go backpacking much, but want to go more. Better sleep would make it more appealing. Obviously a sleeping pad can only get so comfortable. How much better do they get though? UPDATE: Went to REI to try all the different options. I personally found the Nemo tensor to be the most comfortable. My wife preferred the REI Helix. We both preferred the tensor/helix over the Exped Ultra 5r. We brought one of our Klymits with us, and it was a night and day difference. We ended up buying both the REI Helix, and the Nemo Tensor. We will try both over a trip this weekend, and exchange as needed afterwards (at the REI staff members recommendation). We can apply the price match policy once the sale hits to get the better prices.

We have a klymit double insulated ultra- light static v, which may have only been offered in mass drop. I think the static v is rather divisive, but it has worked really well for us.

I have a Klymit Static V Insulated (4.4 r value) I used on the GDMBR in 2023. I somehow managed to poke a hole through both sides including the tyvek ground cover and tent. Shit happens when you sleep on the ground. I patched it back up with the included patches and it's been fine. I consider these things to be consumable and assume I'll have to replace for whatever reason. They're just glorified pool floats. Also you use your breath to inflate them and I suspect they get pretty icky eventually. I try to air mine out whenever possible in the sun hoping that keeps the air chamber somewhat disinfected. I bought mine discounted at Sierra. Not showing online at the moment but might be in stores or this one looks like it's the same thing under a different sister brand (same copy on tag). I need to get one for wifey and I'll probably get this one. [https://www.sierra.com/peak-slumber-air-sleeping-pad-insulated\~p\~3jwyf/](https://www.sierra.com/peak-slumber-air-sleeping-pad-insulated~p~3jwyf/)

+1 for mec reactor (my solo, 5 years old) or klymit static insulated (double, for doubling, 3 years old) and aquaseal uv for field repairs and aquaseal seam grip for reinforcing the repair at home

I'm similar size and sleep pretty good on my Klymit Static V2

Klymit static V is a good cheap option for a much smaller pad. The uninsulated one isn’t very warm though and only for summer use. I’ve used their insulated one for about 6 seasons and I like it. There are much smaller and lighter pads out there, but they also tend to be more expensive and fragile. Big Agnes copperspur bikepack is a killer tent for bikepacking. Quite a bit lighter than your tent and the shorter pole segments make it fit much better on handlebars. Really expensive, but well constructed. You get what you pay for.

I used to sleep on a Klymit and recently upgraded to a Thermarest Neoair. Huge difference, Klymits are cheap but they are cheap for a reason, they kinda suck.

the klymit pad, to me, is so so for insulation. you can add a thin foam pad or an accordion style pad underneath for added warmth.

If it's not cold, you can save space and weight with an uninsulated inflatable. I have a klymit inflatable that took me across Scotland. I used a z-lite on top of it for cold nights since that is negligible weight and can be stored externally. But my real answer is a hammock.

Sleeping pad: get an inflatable that rolls up/compresses. I currently have a Klymit Static V. Thermarest also makes good ones, they only need to be a few cm to make a nice pad. Hammock/net, with a tarp for rain: I did this for 6 months through Central America. It’s not ideal on the back to be shaped like a banana all night. I managed but it was not the best sleep. Maybe slightly better for shorter people (I’m 183cm) ? Also a hammock is COLD without a pad and blankets especially on the back as it is just thin fabric (I used a Grand Trunk hammock, very compact and strong). Bag: if you stick to warmer areas, I still recommend a 0C /32F bag or thereabouts. Better to be too warm than too cold. Can always open it up if too hot. Tent: mine is the Kelty Grand Mesa 2. We used it in firefighting so it’s pretty tough and was good in rain as long as it wasn’t a flooded area.

Love our klymit

6'3" 328lbs I use the Static V Luxe.

Klymic V lite/ul insulated has a 4.4 r value, between 16-20oz. It's the least costly for a pad with stats like that. I had one for about five years that I used extensively, including through the length of California on the Pacific Crest Trail. I chopped the bottom 2' off and sealed it with an iron, and only ever had a problem with leaks at the end of its life. The downside, unless they've changed it since I had it, is the valve, which you have to blow into. The inflate-sack style is nice.

Msr hubba 1 person and an inflatable klymit pad. Tiny volume for each.

My ass is always hitting the ground with the Klymit V. I bought one on their clearance sale and I wouldn’t even use it for summer.

I tried Klymit and had the same problem. Get a Thermarest Neoair Xtherm or Xlite. I’ve used an Xlite for 4 years with no leaks.

And they are not comfortable at all

I loathe my klymit My cats likes it when I've blown it up at home 🤣 I need a nicer one 

Check out Klymit’s lineup of pads. I’ve been moderately happy with mine. You might also look into hammock camping. By far the most comfortable I’ve ever been sleeping outside.

Do they? I hadn’t heard that. I’ve had my static v lite insulated pad for several years and have easily camped on 30 degree weather without issue so maybe the quality has deteriorated since then.

I own a klymit static v. Very light and small packaging. It's pretty good, if it's over 10°C My lowest was 5°C but that wasn't fun

Seconded on the Static V. Good summer pad that used to be (not sure the current price) relatively cheap. Just don't trust their insulated versions.

I put a pad in between my 2nd layer in my ridge runner and it helps lay better and is more comfortable to me. A pad just in the hammock doesnt work well because it slides around. I also use a UC too. Also i had a klymint V and it kinda sucks. Not comfortable on the ground and the R value is like 1 or something so summer camping only.

If warmth isn’t a concern, I’d go with a Klymit Static V. They're usually around $50-60, super comfy for side sleeping, and pack down small. I use mine for car camping all the time and love it.

Any insulated Klymit that’s not a crazy color. Used and abused Static V going on its 9th year!

Any insulated Klymit that’s not a crazy color. Used and abused Static V going on its 9th year!

+1 on the Klymit and definitely buy a small air pump it saves sooo much time

One issue I have with the Klymit pad is that it’s pretty thin, only a couple inches when inflated. That means it has to be full of air - which makes it very firm - or at least that’s what mine feels like. I use a Big Agnes insulated air core long version for my backpacking trips and letting just a bit of air out makes it feel softer.

Highly recommend the Klymit Static V, most comfortable sleeping pad I've ever had, pretty cheap and often on sale, and close to qualifying for an ultralight packing list. I've been comfortable in colder weather than the bottom of the range you listed as well, despite the R-value. It's marketed as a backcountry pad but I mostly use it for car camping. It's nice to have something that kind of does it all.

I’m a big fan of the Klymit sleeping pads because they shrink down to a very small bag. They also have insulated ones as well. https://klymit.com/collections/sleeping-pads?srsltid=AfmBOor8sFbQtKDkoHgleM9CoonuzoUvKVoR1cCH2FGtWsLvweFtrqwj

Klymit static V insulated with an accordion sleeping bad under has worked for numerous backcountry hunting trips for me

Totally get a Klymit Static V. Them lying about R values and ASTM ratings will totally keep you warm. Also Paria Outdoors. Their R values are not ASTM so they are made with unicorns and leprechauns for R values.

Klymit straight up lies about R values.

Best budget pad imo is the Kylmit static V insulated. Good r value and decently comfy. I used mine for years before finally upgrading to a tensor $$$

We had an alps mountaineering full sized inflatable. Got about 6” thick, packed down into a sack about the size of a plastic grocery bag, and came with a rechargeable pump. Never leaked until our dog got freaked out and put a hole in it one night. Bit big for backpacking but we took it into the BWCA a couple times and car camping a lot. Klymit(sp?) makes a decent double that packs down too I think, and they’re typically a bit cheaper than their competitors. I have a single that I use for backpacking and it’s pretty nice. I used to have a really lightweight thermarest but it wasn’t comfortable, especially for side sleeping with bad shoulders. My favorite upgrade we have made are our Nemo sleeping bags. They are shaped specifically for side sleeping and are extra wide. They also zip together. Check out the Nemo disco best bag I’ve ever used

That's why I said adding a foam pad like a thinlight and 6.5 in quotation marks. He did say r-value didn't matter as much so I'm assuming he camps above freezing. Even klymits with added insulation can go down that much. Its a solution that helps with comfort and weight compared with a megamat. I have the megamat and several types of klymit, i can make real world comaprisons.

No worries, I shouldnt have assumed. the megamat is much more comfortable. I'm both a side and back sleeper and would say if you are mostly a side sleeper (or have a big butt) I wouldnt get the klymit at all.

I have tried many sleeping pads and have never had a problem sleeping on any of them. I have a Klymit Inertia X Frame pad that works great because it’s designed to go inside the sleeping bag. Love the fact that I never roll off in the middle of the night and is less likely to get punctured. It weighs 19oz. Will also add that I did a bikepacking trip in Canyonlands and had no trouble with my $69 Klymit. Meanwhile my brother’s brand new $250 Thermarest leaked air every night of the trip so he basically slept on the ground.

I've gotta say, I had/have the klymit pad and the biggest thing is just how much colder I was when I slept on that compared to my newer Big Agnes Rapide pad. Sure, I'm still sleeping on an inflatable, but the warmth difference was notable. For context, my comparison is from backpacking mainly in the high sierras and I'm also a three season camping person.

Klymit Static V if you are small (only non-insulated, the insulated ones are to large for the price). Although they are advertised as being 183cm long, mine was only 179cm long. I'm 185cm tall and could not use it comfortably. Got an Sea to Summit ultralight air mat on sale in large in that price range. Pretty comfy and still very small. But you need to know, that at this price point you will get either a small/lightweight or a warm mattress. The sleeping pad that combines both in the best way possible is the NeoAir X-Lite in my opinion, but it costs double. It might still be worth it to spend the money, since you might want to upgrade it eventually anyways. The air mats from Decathlon are also a good choice, although they are not the smallest. Foam pads are also an option (Nemo Switchback, Therm-A-Rest Z-Lite, Decathlon MT500)

I actually went from the Klymit V to the Tensor trail wide and it’s a game changer imo. Super comfy pad.

I am really happy with my Klymit Static V.

> Klymit Static V Luxe 6'4" 240. I use this one.

Thirded. I have both the standard and insulated version of this.

Thirded. I have both the standard and insulated version of this.

I went this exact route also. But just with an uninsulated static V for 2 years. OP if you're on a if you're on a strict budget, the regular static V is $90 at Canadian Tire, $80 on Altitude Sports (online only, out of quebec, but they are reputable and I use them often). If you have some flexibility, Altitude Sports has the static V insulated for $127 right now. If you camp primarily between June and early September, the regular static is all you need. Insulated would be much more comfortable outside of that range, but I did find the static to be fine in colder conditions as long as an appropriate bag was used. They way they're designed lets the bag stay a little bit loftier under you, as opposed to a flat pad that fully compresses your bag under you. Do not get the static V lightweight if you're worried about leakage. It's a much thinner material on top than the regular statics and I believe the dimensions are a tad smaller.

Klymit lies about their r value and it’s really closer to 1.6 or 2. I am pissed at them for selling uninsulated pads marketed as insulated.

They also grossly overstate the r value. IMO their pads are trash, I’ve owned two.

I have a klymit static V2, just need a insulated mat , bit fed up with sleeping on my closed cell army mat when its cold

I have one on the way. mummy version.. so got my fingers crossed.. I'v a Klymit that is OK but cold

My neo air is noticably more comfortable than my static V, but neither of them is as comfortable as my bed at home, which in turn is not as comfortable as my hammock. I'm usually tired enough when backpacking to make it through the night on the neo air, but I try my best to camp somewhere with trees, so I can hang instead.

I use a cheaper blow-up Klymit with some reflectix r21 over the top. Super light and cost effective. My blow-up pillow has an elastic strap, which i use to keep them together at the head, and at the toe, I just use a piece of paracord. I've done this for years and never felt the need for a $200 + sleep mat.

Had mine for 2 years until a little hole de-inflates as I lay down.

I'd say it depends where you live and will it get cold at night. I had the Klymit for a number of years and works well if the air pressure doesn't change at night. If you live anywhere where it gets cooler, it will deflate during the night. I live in the Yukon, and recently bought a nemo. It works super well even in the winter and packs small and light. Otherwise, look for something with a high r rating. A cheaper option would be to get a z-lite thermarest to use under your klymit mat. They are bulky but super light, rated r2, and you can strap outside your bag. Personally, I'd only use the Coleman for car camping.

Used a high end Klymit and a £15 temu/Alibaba job in the past year. Both pretty good

Comfort is subjective. I find my Klymit pad to be very comfortable, more so than most of the other sleeping pads from bigger name manufacturers that I tried when I was shopping around. Their R-values are definitely BS though: I feel my heat getting sucked away from the ground on cold nights.

I had a Klymit Static V Luxe (the extra wide one) and while it's decent enough, I upgraded to a Sea-To-Summit Camp Plus self inflating mat, and that one is way more comfy for me (I'm a side sleeper). It has a much better R value to boot, I think 4.3 vs 1.3 for the non-insulated static V. It does take up more room in the top box but it's worth it to me for the better sleep. I think it's about the same price as well.

It’s definitely subjective, but there are some design elements that contribute to a pad’s comfort. I have a bad back and I’m a side sleeper. I typically get 3-4 hours of sleeping on the trail. I’ve tried both the MSR neoair xlite and xtherm, Nemo tensor all season, Big Agnes Rapide and the klymit static V. I recently purchased the REI helix long wide pad and I’m now sleeping 6-7 hours on trail. I’ll gladly take the weight penalty for better sleep. Justin Outdoors has several sleeping pad review and comparison videos that are worth watching.

Klymit fudges their r values. They call it 6.5, but the actual ASTM certified rating for the same pad when lab tested is only 2.4

Appreciate it. I know I said r-value was irrelevant, but the Klymits would be too low for me.

Just to add a bit of context here: Some of the old model pads you can find have a Klymit R-value rating, compared to the industry standard ASTM. [Discussion here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/euwcv1/updated_klymit_rvalues_with_the_new_astm_standard/). My v1 insulated static V, which Klymit still sells and advertises as 4.4 R value, has an ASTM R value of 1.9. They do advertise their _new_ versions of those pads with ASTM R values.

Static V Luxe >> Static V in terms of comfort if the dimensions work for your setup. I can't speak to durability yet as I've only had both for 1 season. What I can say is that it inflates a good amount and is designed to kind of hug you as you lay on it which adds to the comfort.

Static V Luxe >> Static V in terms of comfort if the dimensions work for your setup. I can't speak to durability yet as I've only had both for 1 season. What I can say is that it inflates a good amount and is designed to kind of hug you as you lay on it which adds to the comfort.

Walmart is selling these two for under $50: [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Adult-Inflatable-Camp-Sleeping-Pad-Blue-Size-78-L-x-25-W-x-3-5-H/3679114451?classType=REGULAR&from=/search](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Adult-Inflatable-Camp-Sleeping-Pad-Blue-Size-78-L-x-25-W-x-3-5-H/3679114451?classType=REGULAR&from=/search) and [https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klymit-Static-V-Sleeping-Pad-Durable-Camping-Inflatable-Mattress-Green/8380509807?classType=REGULAR&from=/search](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Klymit-Static-V-Sleeping-Pad-Durable-Camping-Inflatable-Mattress-Green/8380509807?classType=REGULAR&from=/search) The Klymit pad is pretty good, but neither is going to have a very good "R" value (which measures how warm it will keep you at night, more or less. If you have a decent sleeping bag you should be fine. If you want to make extra sure, put a blanket or comedown down on the ground between the ground and the sleeping pad.

I use Klymit sleeping pad.

Agreed the Exped is surprisingly comfy for a side sleeper. I went with the ultra 5r but that shouldn’t make a difference. Tried and eventually got rid of: thermarest, ether light, klymit.

Klymit Static V Luxe. 6’ 1” 285lbs. Packs down to a soda can size if folded/packed correctly

Give the Klymit a shot, Ive been using one for years with no issues!

I just love the insulated static v. I have used a ton of different mattresses and always go back to klymit. I am a side sleeper and skinny/boney. It’s not super thick, but I never touch the ground. My valve did break after a LOT of use and klymit offered to send a whole new mattress (I was not smart and told them just a new valve was fine). 20-30 trips later and it’s still my GO TO.

Ha, same. Started with the 'ol cheapo Klymit Static V, moved to the small mummy Therm-a-Rest XLite NeoAir for a couple years, then figured I'd get a wide to see if that helped with side sleep comfort so my butt and knees weren't off the edges (& went extra warm because may as well eliminate redundancies) with the Therm-a-Rest XTherm in reg wide. No dice. Tried a friend's Nemo Tensor, and wasn't for me. Tried the large women's Sea to Summit Comfort Light Insulated air - dimples felt odd and was too thin; no better than my old mummy xlite for overall comfort even with the wider shape. Running out of budget to throw in for the S2S Ether Light XT test and given my experience with the Comfort Light, wasn't convinced it was the move. Still haven't tried vertical baffles like the Expeds, and maybe that'd do fine, but instead just went all in on the reg wide chonky Neoloft... and good god. With that soft knit stretch top, slept a like the coziest dreamy log for 8.5 hours first time I took it out (and then 6 the next, but only thanks to a disruptive woodpecker. Nature!) I hesitate to mention/recommend it here as it kinda undermines the whole forum topic (ultralight) with its extremely-not-ultralight weight. But packs just as small as my reg-wide XTherm and as a bike camper, pack size matters more than strictly weight so I'm sticking with it.

With a thickness of 2.5", the Klymit Static V Insulated is uncomfortable for side-sleepers and somehow doesn't feel quite as warm as its 4.2 R-value implies. The Big Agnes Rapide SL has a thickness of 4.25" and is very comfortable for this 60-year-old side-sleeper. It lives up to its 4.8 R-value. It's also lighter than the Klymit. If the REI sale offers a 30% discount, the Rapide will cost $112, almost the same as a new Klymit V Insulated. Of course, there are warmer pads than the Rapide, but most of them are more expensive or less comfortable.

You can add my downvote for the Klymit V. They are pretty generous with their own R rating. Always check an independent review is what I learned using that glorified pool mat.

Depends on how crazy you are lol. I always vouch for: * Klymit Static V Impossible to beat in terms of packed size, can be found pretty cheap too. Easy to inflate, a bit of work to fold/pack properly but you get used to it. Biggest downside is it pops really easy if you (or someone trying to find the bathroom in the dark) step on it. It isn't cushy or anything, it's an plastic bag full of air but it's good! * REI campwell self inflating Takes up more space, but is way more comfortable and is self-inflating so you can set it up then go brush your teeth or something, and come back and it's good to go. * Closed Cell Foam folding pad Won't pop, ever. Weighs next to nothing. Not comfortable at all in my opinion, but some people love it. Useful for lunches as a cushion if you want to. Takes up quite a bit of space. * Just a sleeping bag/towel/blanket Works for some people, when I was really really tired I did this

Niet zelfopblaasbaar, maar: Klymit static V2 luchtbed in combinatie met flextail tiny pompje. Pompje is op accu, gaat lang mee en het geheel kun je in je broekzakken meenemen. De klymit is niet superwarm, dus op koude nachten doe ik er een goedkoop tyvek reflectiematje onder (€8,- op bol of zoiets). Dan slaap ik tot het vriespunt behaaglijk. Met goed googelen ben je voor <€100,- klaar

Yeah - I bought a Klymit has it is talked about as a competitor to the bigger names. Laid on it one time, sent it back, and happily sleep on a Nemo Tensor Elite.

Anything is better than 2 yoga mats. I hear lots of people talking about exped. I have a klymit, which is okay and not too expensive, a couple of self inflating (Coleman and zenbivy), which are better but heavier, and just got a sea to summit that I haven’t tried yet. But you don’t need a giant inflator, many come with an inflation sack or you can get a small rechargeable pump from flextail.

I have a Klymit Static V Luxe air pad and a Thermarest Luxury Map XL self inflating. I don’t backpack so space/weight are not an issue. The Thermarest is way more comfortable, not to mention warmer because of the high R value.

My friends and I use the klymit static v2 and it's been very reliable for us. Definitely too thin for what the OP is looking for but since this pad has been solid for us, I'd imagine their more expensive ones might have what they're looking for and be similarly durable and reasonably priced. Look for stuff on sale or open box on amazon if you can, that can make a huge price difference. I was able to pick up a $300 Marmot puffy cost for less than a hundred the other day when they were clearing it out. Same thing with my tent, sleeping bag, etc.

I like my Klymit static V. Used it for a week at a time and no complaints.

i also bought a klymit pad and froze and now learned that their R value is completely fabricated.

You’re going to love your new pad. Five years ago I went from a klymit static V (always deflated at night) to a thermarest. It was day and night. Never skimp on things keeping you from the ground (pad, shoes, tent)

I’ve used that Klymit pad plenty backpacking. It’s fine. Not amazing but good enough for a few nights at a time. Certainly worth trying imo.

Another vote for the Klymit Static V paired with a folding foam pad. I've been using mine for almost 8 years and prefer it to my more insulated and cushy Thermarest, even for car camping. I fully inflate my Klymit before lying down on it and allowing some air to escape the valve. Adjust until it feels comfortable. For reference, I'm mostly a side sleeper.

Closed cell foam pad under the Klymit pad for the win.

I’m a huge Klymit for many things, but their beds only offer insulation. This OP wants some comfort. Even their $200 pad short changes.

For budget 4 season AND ATSM tested, Justin Outdoors reviewed the Hikenture sleeping pad: HIKENTURE Sleeping Pad, 6.2 R-Value Insulated Camping Mat with Pump Sack, Ultralight Inflatable Sleeping Mat, Portable Self Inflating Sleeping Pad for Camping Backpacking Hiking(186L x 64W) https://a.co/d/cEha9rX I have used this pad in the winter months in Northwestern Ontario, I definitely prefer it over the non-ATSM tested Klymit pads (though they are slowly seeing an ATSM rating now). Slept great @ -20C. For 3 season use, Klymit isn't _bad_. My kid sleeps on it when she comes out for a Thanksgiving campout in October. We use this paired with a CCF pad, but in summer, no CCF pad needed. Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad - Recon 2020 https://a.co/d/3uR6dNx If you are wondering why I mentioned about klymit and the ATSM ratings, google/search Reddit "Klymit ATSM" and you will understand why.