Altra - Timp Series

I like Altra Timp 5’s

I've put over 2000 miles into a couple pairs of Altra runners. I have boots I use for more rugged adventures with lots of ankle rolling risks, but for 90% of trails, runners are too comfortable and light to not wear.

Hello everyone! I am a broke PhD student who trains for and runs ultramarathons, so I don't own multiple pairs of shoes at this point. I run roughly a 60/40 split of road to trails in my training, but all of my races are on trails. I've run these Altra Timp 5 trail shoes for 1,100 miles now, in training and races, on road and trails. I live near the East Coast and I run on gravel roads, paved roads, soft sand trails, hard pack beach sand, technical trails in Appalachian mountains, and rooty dirt trails. I ran a 50 miler in these that was raining the entire time. Also recently did a 6 day vacation where I did ~70 miles of super steep and technical trails in Shenandoah National Park in these shoes. I don't have a ton of performance comparison points, since I have only run in Altras (I have wide, flat feet and the 0 drop works for my strengths and natural running patterns). But, I can say that I am thoroughly impressed with how these shoes have held up. Despite running them on paved roads pretty regularly, the lugs held up enough to get me through this past 6 day trip with 0 falls. Though they don't drain super well in the water, I haven't had any durability complaints from the waterloggedness. Primary damage is that the tread is pretty much gone, around the ankle there is a lot of wear, and the sides are losing integrity where my feet fit. Obviously the foam is completely compressed at this point. I honestly prefer these to my old Olympus 5's, even for 8-10 hour runs. Feel free to ask me anything!

I fully transitioned marathon training from hoka (4mm) to altra within 6 months, progressively increasing mileage with altras. In my case, zero drop shoes helped having a natural stride and removed some pains in the back and on the shoulders I could experience before. 7 years and counting, never got injured. No harm in trying for yourself and see what feels right as long as you proceed carefully.

I switched to zero drop less so because of the drop but more so because of how much room the toe boxes usually have on such shoes. My feet can actually do the work they are supposed to and splay the way they are meant to. I added them to the rotation about a year ago and now I run almost exclusively in them. And when I don’t, the models I use tend to be on the wider side. At this point it really annoys me how so many of the top brands still shape their toe boxes like they do. The vast majority of people’s feet are not shaped like cones. It is also annoying how brands I otherwise used to love haven’t at least tried to make a naturally-shaped toe box, even just to compete with Altra and others. I really love so much of what saucony is doing but their toe boxes just seem to get thinner and thinner and I really can’t get my head around why. For the record, the shoes I have that are zero or very low drop are: - Altra Timp 5 (did a 50k recently in these) - Altra Lone Peak 7 (lower energy return but comfy as hell) - Topo Terraventure (3mm drop, solid energy return, wicked on technical terrain) - Altra Escalante 3 (these are just everyday shoes I find comfy, I don’t run in them much but they do that job fine too, just not anything special ride-wise

+1 for the Altra Timp 5. I would say I have somewhat wide, very boxy feet. Although the Timps don’t have as wide of a toe box and as square of a frame as the Lone Peaks, I didn’t have any issues and the added cushion was a little better for me as a heavier backpacker. I did have one hot spot at the outside of my big toe (like where people get bunyons), but I think it was more of the socks and when I switched to Darn Toughs that issue went away. I also got the Xero Shoes Z Trail sandals and really like them, so I’m interested to check out their shoes. But yeah in the end you gotta just do the research on all the main contenders, understand your foot shape, figure out what level of cushion/drop/grip you want, and try a few things. And then once you find the least annoying pair, just try and keep buying those or the closest things you can get (don’t get lost in the sauce).

I had a pair once and find them overrated.

I would maybe recommend the Altra Timp or Olympus series over the Lone Peak for your use case. They are certainly comfier for walking in (especially Olympus for a wider foot), but great for running too.

My Timps got holes after 4 weeks of wearing lol

Forgot exactly where but it was the toe box. Never seen running shoes with such a shitty build quality before.

I tried the Timp 5s (Vibram) but returned them - the tongue was too clunky and I could clearly feel the edge of it down my foot, no matter how I laced the shoes.

I have no idea where you’re hearing that altra are the gold standard, they’re usually recommended only if you need one or more of 0 drop, minimal, or wide toe box bc there are few options in those spaces. Durability issues are usually listed as their main draw back.  Personally I feel theyre somewhat overblown, as I’d always get 350-400 miles out of mine before the sides blew out.  However, that still makes them worse than all other brands I use; which almost all get 500 and I’ll stop using bc of comfort or bounce, not bc the sides explode. The newer timps have much better vibram outsoles, they’re super grippy.  Or you can try the topo mountain racer 3 if you’re not stuck on 0 drop, they’re a great shoe and durable too.

I ended up finding some 5s to try. Agree that the toebox is wider than the 6s. Overall width and length fit my hobbit feet better. I might be imagining things, but wearing them around the house, my feet feel hotter in the 5s. Wish the 5s had gaiter attachments.

Be aware that the timps have a different foot shape. Took me too long to figure out why they didn’t fit like the lone peaks.

I use Altra trail runners when traveling because they are light and comfortable and can double as normal shoes in a pinch, but for normal hiking close to home I stick to boots. Trail runners wear out too easy and are too expensive for the amount of hiking I do.

Altra Timp 5. It's everything I've loved about the previous versions but they finally added a vibram mega grip sole.

Altra Timp 5 Altra Lone Peak Topo Ultraventure

Im currently on the Portuguese central track, wearing Altra Timp Trailrunners! They have a lot of cushion, good grip, no drop and a wide toebox, which made it a great choice for me!  Ibought 1 size bigger (EU size) and walked them in really well + I use good summer hiking socks. So far no blisters, just some sore spots on the heel :) I saw many people with problems who were wearing either heavy hiking boots OR old running shoes that were too small (no upsizing) and or didn’t have enough cushioning anymore…  Bom caminho 

Thanks! What are they like in mud? I’m a bit wary of the quality of Altra these days. The soles on my Torins lasted 800km and the Timp 4s wore out after 500km.

For at least a couple of year now, I've been using my zero drop Altras once a week, for a short to mid-distance easy run. Having a shoe rotation and switching it up is a great idea--including with the drop.

I've run a 100 in LPs before but I switched to Timps for longer stuff and haven't looked back. They're awesome shoes and I think they're a happy balance between the ground feel of the LPs and not being too mushy. At the time I switched, I was also grateful for Vibram soles (before the 9+ came out). I've also raced in the Mont Blanc Carbons but I found the upper was uncomfortable and had a lot of give. On the downhills my feet were definitely shifting forward despite using a runners knot. I don't have this problem with Timps and I also really like the Timp BOAs. They are super comfy and it's so nice to not have to worry about shoes coming untied and being able to easily tighten or loosen them. My only fear in a 100 is that something breaks and I'm not able to tighten a shoe and it's a long ways to a drop back with another pair.

I found the Lone Peaks to last longer than the one pair of Timps that I've had. The Timp soles just wore out really fast. But they were pretty comfortable!

I do xero shoes for everything but backpacking. I've done trips in them for shorter times and have done okay but I'm also a fan of altras. JMT is longer so I wouldn't do xeros the whole time personally.

Regularly do that in my Timp's

Echo it's personal preference. Like you, boots are my go-to, but I've explored getting out of my comfort zone with non-WP trail runners. Here's my personal take. If there aren't a crazy amount of wet crossings, I prefer boots and to just swap into camp sandals for the crossings. If there are ton's of wet crossings, or I'll be wet-wading while fishing, I wear trail runners. I have tried Astral Timps and Brooks Cascadia, and much prefer the tread on the Cascadia's. If I know it's going to rain or be very likely to rain for many days in row, I now wear my runners. If I don't know what to expect with the weather, I'm wearing my boots because I still prefer them and am ok with damp feet, but there is absolutely merit to non-WP trail runners. I suggest experiment with your new choice on day hikes, both sunny and sloppy wet, then short backpacking trips and slowly expand your level of trust and comfort and decide from there. Not all trips have to be the same. For reference, most of my trips are 2-5 nights. Traveling internationally I usually do 5-14 night trips at a time and will use my WP boots because I find them more comfortable, more durable, more supportive and I don't always know ahead of time what I'll be getting into. But everyone is different.

I have a pair of timp 4s with about 200 miles in them a they look much the same as yours. I really like them as a road to trail shoe but the sole is ridiculous. I ran 600 miles on hard trails , roads , paths and dusty rocky terrain in a pair of escalante. No lugs at all (Dew on grass could get entertaining) and they lasted way better. 

I have used Timps a lot in Alaska where it’s often extremely wet, boggy, and/or rocky and rooty and I love them. Excellent traction, much better than the lone peaks

I had a different iteration of Terrex a few years ago. For the price, they never quite fit right. Now I hike & backpack in Altras. Perhaps take a look at Altra Timp or Lone Peak.

It really varies person to person and there is the transition period from 4-12mm drop to 0mm drop. If you take the time to acclimate to 0 drop, you'll generally be find for most distances. This could mean starting with walks around the neighborhood or doing errands in 0 drops and progressively working them into your runs. That said, some individuals might not ever fully acclimate to 0 drops. I wore Altras exclusively for years and while I did 100 milers in them, my calves consistently felt a bit more sore compared to my friends who were in similar shape but ran in 4-8mm drop shoes. How my calves feel at mile 20 for example would be how they felt at mile 30. I still wear 0 drop shoes, but it would be nice to decouple wide toeboxes from drop, which is the space Topo is in.

Hello, here my feedback based on my experiences with trying on these shoes in store: Altamesa: I found it had good cushion except for where my toes were and it felt like they wouldn't soften no matter how many km's I put into them. Speedgoat 6: toe box felt weirdly roomy for a narrowish shoe and they didn't quite fit right. Hierro: I was able to try on the v7, v8 and v9 models all at one store. The v9 we're the best out of the 3 but I still didn't like the v9. It just felt oddly bulky which was a shame as I love NB shoes. The 1080's are my favourite. Stinson 7: I just bought a pair from MEC yesterday and they felt so good on my feet as soon as I put them on. I'm a little used to heavier shoes so that doesn't bother me. I really want a max cushion trail runners that doesn't need to be super technical trail focused. Salomon Ultra Glide/Ultra Flow: i really wanted to like these but they were a little narrow and just didn't have the comfy impact I was expecting. Altra Timp 5: I think these shoes are awesome except for the way the upper material bends at the toe box. It just feels weird and I can tell it will create problems for me a few km's into a run. I also have the Topo Ultraventure 4 which are great but I don't know how well I would enjoy them past 30km. I have Columbia Ecolite (the ones that look like they infused golf balls into the form) which have been great but just aren't on the same level as other trail shoes. I had the Brooks Caldera 6 which were okay and had great traction but they hurt my feet and caused blood blisters on the outside of my big toes so I was able to return them when I got the Stinson. I've tried on many other runners and I have the believe that you should go with the shoe that fells the best on your foot. E: forgot to add that I also tried on the hoka mafate speed 4 and I almost bought them as they were don't in the toe box compared to the speed goats 5 & 6 but I wanted slightly more cushioning. I think the mafate is a great comparison to the topo Ultraventure 4

Having run in Hokas (which only have a 4 or 5mm drop, depending on the shoe) I got some Altras earlier in the year. I just switch between the two brands randomly at the moment, partly because I have a few pairs of Hokas to wear out, partly to gently encourage my Achilles to get used to the zero drop and minimal stack. I’m looking forward to the day I’ve worn through all my Hokas and can go Altra all the time, but in the meantime my Achilles are happier with me for changing slowly.

Durability aside, try on both shoes. If you’re not thru-hiking then durability doesn’t matter much. Yeah, it’ll be annoying if they give out sooner than you expected, but the comfort can be worth the money. For me, Altras are the most comfortable by far. I wanted to switch to Topos due to the rave reviews and the vibram sole, but I had to immediately return them due to their pronounced arch support. My feet hated them and my altra trail runners and road shoes are the most comfortable shoes for my feet I’ve ever worn. I was late to the game so I’m sure I missed out on the glory days, but until another company comes out with a wide toe box and no arch support trail runner it’s altra all the way for me.

We have walked and hiked all over Pacific CR. I take trail running shoes, like Altra Timps and have been fine.

Lone Peak has very minimal cushioning. I’d try the Timps they are medium cushioning.

Another vote for Timps

I switched from an 8mm shoe to zero drop Altras for trail running and my Achilles have never been happier. But, I don’t do road running.

Same. Had too many uppers blow out after only 200 miles. The shoes still had tread and life in the foam, but uppers just toast. Won’t go back until the reviews are consistently better. The only model that seems to buck is the Lone Peak, but it’s not my jam. I really liked the Timp.

Yeah sadly my experience with Altra has been the worst in terms of durability of any brand I’ve used. Edit: loved the Timps while they lasted 200 miles.

I had the opposite experience re plantar fasciitis with zero drop shoes. Developed PF from tennis, and struggled through a year of stretching, squats, rest, insoles and Naprosyn. Switching to Altras fixed the issue almost immediately.

This is so fascinating to me because I had the opposite experience. Developed PF from tennis, tried literally everything else and then gave zero drop a try as a last ditch effort. Issues resolved quickly and now I don’t even have to stretch or foam roll or anything.

This is so fascinating to me because I had the opposite experience. Developed PF from tennis, tried literally everything else and then gave zero drop a try as a last ditch effort. Issues resolved quickly and now I don’t even have to stretch or foam roll or anything.

The Area Timp 5 might check all those boxes. I find the mid and heel to be nicely snug but still roomy up front.

Agree with above, I bought my hiking Altras from a running shop. There website has a good list of stockists. Also good to remember that with Hokas, if you buy from the website or the Covent Garden store you can wear them for 30 days and return them for a full refund if you don’t like them

I tried the Timps and found they roll my ankle in even though I have quite strong arches. It rolled in less when I removed the insole. May be the same for your wife? I went with the LP8 for a flatter fit and am loving them on mixed trails.

Okay so just keep working! 🥲 I do about 60% zone 2 work and it’s helped a lot! I’m about 12 weeks into training endurance seriously and averaging 20-25 miles per week. It was my first time feeling this soreness in my feet though… Shoes, I used these altra timp 5 ⬇️ after a process of elimination because I have narrow feet and some of the other altras are too loose on my ankle and if I go less cushion with more volume my lower calves tended to get sore…Nike, hooka both felt too narrow in toes. Admittedly only my 3rd run with them though!! https://www.altrarunning.com/en-us/trail/womens-timp-5/AL0A85P6.html?dwvar_AL0A85P6_size=8&dwvar_AL0A85P6_color=242&frt=20&utm_content=ecomm&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=&utm_term=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAq-u9BhCjARIsANLj-s1Iu5e6CPmhE_3Gjm1Su8QBPFOH9WRJscuKenMq4G6_E4rs8DOTIgkaAqCeEALw_wcB

They do have more cushion but they are also slightly less wide which prevents my feet and ankles from sliding around cause I have narrow feet. Any advice for a zero drop with less cushion, wider toe box and more narrow through heel and mid foot?

Altra Timp 5's with Correct Toes and Injinji socks. This is the way.

I have run on Altras for 4 years. I don't understand the stories about zero drop being bad for your calves or exploding your Achilles. I would love a hater to explain with medical proof about these claims. I love the roomy toe box and feel it allows for better contact with the trail. I have had Olympus 4-6, and they are my long haul high milage 100k+ stomper shoe. For shorter runs, I use the Mt Blanc or Timp because they are more nimble and feel responsive. Watch out on the Olympus 5. They fall apart too fast, IMO but Altra has stood behind their warranty and gave me a credit for them and got a nee pair of Olympus 6. They are built sooooo much better and I have almost 400 miles on this set and they look like they will last a lot longer. I do not run on the road or gym in Altra, so 🤷 in that area.

I'm on Altra Lone Peaks or Timp but nervous about my upcoming JMT as far as their durability as I average about 150 miles/pair. For the extra length I might opt for the Timp 5 with the Vibram sole for the extra comfort and wear factor.

I always hear Altra is the gold standard for trail shoes. I picked up a pair of timp 4 late season, and so far have put about 15 hikes / 125 miles and the soles appear to be done. Is this typically? Would the lone peak give better life? Or should I look elsewhere for a longer lasting shoe? I feel the uppers and still in great condition and seems like much different experience than others get from these.. I live in Salt Lake, Utah and favor slower/longer with more technical favoring hikes.

Ive run in them on and off for 10 years - longest was a half marathon on pavement but usual soft trails with few stones - roots can be a bit slippery - I own like 3 pairs I like to switch between my Altra timps Hokas and then flat vibram fives can make my calves a little sore from time to time- I like them

I haven’t tried the Columbia but the Timp and Speedgoat are both good choices with Altra’s fitting a bit wider in general. I would try both on if you can, the choice might be obvious after that

Yea I brought water proof Altras and I think regular would have been better. They still worked pretty good though!

I had 3 pairs of superiors shred apart on the upper on both inside and outside just above where it connects to the base of the shoe. Same for 3 pairs of outroads. I've never had a non altra showle do this. They all died at under 250km. I have ~1800 km on a pair of nordas right now, and ~700 and 400 on a couple pairs of Topo mt5s. Ive put over 1000km on each of the last 3 pairs of topo phantoms I have had. I have a pair of timps and they have held up well, and the paradigm 4 was an amazing altra shoe. Altra is absolutely hit and miss and this topic comes up a ton. It isnt and OP thing. Its an altra thing.

I use Altra timp for this kind of mixed surfaces. Wide toe box, zero drop, fabulous fit for my feet. If they would only last longer than they do they would be perfect.

Hey OP, hijacking this high-level comment in the hopes that people see this... Here are two excellent podcasts about the purpose and benefits of barefoot shoes by very credible professionals: [Irene Davis and Peter Attia](https://open.spotify.com/episode/5MQ4EQau0kFHN6nZDZDAxk?si=C9GZInbdR9G1jrDGtxzsRw) [Courtney Conley and Peter Attia](https://open.spotify.com/episode/5iVi3arAK9aUyCcFQqBFsL?si=gy8W6COZR6-_0Kxm4u4ifw) There are so many effectively uneducated people trying to speak in this topic, from bro-science YouTubers to people like your friend. Experience doesn't replace a proper science-based understanding of not only the biomechanics involved, but also the data on injury occurrence in practice. I only hike and run in Altras and Xeros. The fact that you need to train to wear them just demonstrates that all other shoes are coddling your feet and legs. In that sense, it is *non*-zero-drop shoes that are posing the injury risk, because it is *those* shoes that create the deficit of strength in the first place. Not the other way around.

Maybe you could try more padded Altra, so Timp or Olympus. Lately, I'm a huge fan of Inov8, so maybe you could look into those as well. The new models are foot shaped like Altra or Topo but have a bit more support for me. I wouldn't get hoka speedgoat. It's really narrow shoe which could cause other issues on trail.

I’ve switched almost entirely to trail runners including on a lot,of rugged terrain. I did find that when I was using Hokas that I had an increased tendency to roll my ankle after about ten miles. I like the padding, but have found lower drop shoes to be better for this. Altras are good, but I destroy them in about 300 miles. Trying Topos right now. Not as padded, but low drop with a wide toe box and they seem to be holding up better.

Trail runner will be fine. I was talking to a guy recently that said the AT requires real boots. But even by his argument, trail runners will be fine. The thing with trail runners is when you are tired, it is easier to roll your ankle. I have only found this to be a concern when I was using Hoka. Altras and Topos have less to zero drop and they don’t have this occur for me. Though Altras kind of suck for durability (expect 300 miles unless they fixed things). And Topos have less padding and are not as comfortable.

I have generally given up on durability. I use Altra trail runners and yes they begin to fall apart after 200 miles. But that's what fits me and keeps me outside so it's just the cost of my sport. I could go with something more durable but I would likely pay more and be less satisfied. Also I put in a warranty claim regularly because these shoes often don't last a year at the rate I use them. I often get my money back in that case.

I went through 4 pairs of Keen mid-Voyagers before trying some trail runners (Altra Timp and Altra Lone Peaks) and....wow! I was blown away at how nice it is to have lightweight, quick-drying shoes with ample toe-box. Sometimes I remove shoes and cross streams in my Crocs, sometimes I just walk through in my Altras. Wear with Darn Tough socks and all the wetness will be wicked away. When you get to camp, take out the insoles to dry the shoe.

My altra timp 4 have just done the same thing in exactly the same place on both shoes (it's where they crease at the ball of your foot). Mine lasted about 380km, ways kept clean and the soles were barely worn. I took mine back to the shop and got a brand new pair on warranty. A bit annoying but doesn't cost anything and I'll end up with 700+ km worth of use for the cost of a single pair of shoes. Maybe more

I had a pair of Timp 4. 380km of running/hiking, probably 95% of that on trails and the soles were barely worn, nothing like yours. However I took them back to the shop this week because they both developed big holes in the sides, by the ball of the big toe. But yea, the soles on mine were fine

Have you used trail runners for backpacking before? I like Altras because they have the widest toe box. But they are zero drop and that doesn't work for everybody. They work great for me but I know plenty of others have disliked them. A lot of people like Topos and Hokas as well. The point is that shoes are way too individual for anybody to successfully recommend one that will work for you.

I did Paintbrush Divide last July, and this was my exact experience. I wore my Altra trail runners, and they held up well for most of my hike. There was a lot of rain on Day 1, and my shoes were so wet that I they were still damp when I started on Day 2. I continued up to Holly Lake and conditions were MUCH better for that hike...until about 8000', when I started to hit packed snow on the trail. My shoes thankfully dried out and were never a problem again. Our goal on Day 3 was to go up and over the Divide and continue back through Cascade Canyon, and most of our hike that day had crampons to deal with snow/ice on the trail. Unfortunately, we had to turn back just a few hundred yards from the summit because we didn't have ice tools and just didn't want to risk it. The ranger on the trail laughed at us and said basically, "That's what you get for coming in July. See you in mid-August next year."

My LP6's and Timp 4's are awesome on wet rock

Lone peaks wrecked me, timps saved my hike

Trying altras for the first time went with the Timp 5’s. Felt good in my first hike out with them. Time will tell with more trail time.

If you already know you like the zero drop and foot shape that altra offers try one of their bigger stacked shoes like the Olympus 6. If that’s too heavy and too much stack try the new timp 5 boa or the topo pursuit. If you want a little bit of drop but still foot shape try the topo Mtn racer or ultraventure.

I’ve been down the Altra LP route and really loved the 6s, now I have the 8s and they’re just too hard on my soles. My feet really hurt after a long day. Also I have the gtx versions and they are _very_ hot on a hot day. Last time I went out I wore the Altra Olympus 6s and found them to be much more comfortable, but still not great on the heel if I’m honest. But they are certainly more comfortable and cushioned. So I’ve just bought a pair of Hoka Anacapa 2s as I’ve heard good things about them. The cushioning seems really good but if there is an issue it’s that moving from Altras, the toe box feels narrow. I’m not saying that’s an issue yet, I’ve only worn them for fairly short walks for two days so far, but it’s something I’m aware of. If the toes aren’t an issue then I have to say that the comfort is really good so far and I hope they work out, I think they will go a long way to reducing the footsore feeling after a long day on the trail.

I went from speed goat to altra timp4. Ran a half marathon with good vert and was fine. However I am know for having strong calves, they will build them heavy especially on vertical gain

I love Altra's zero drop, I have two pairs. I also have Saucony Peregrine 13s though with a 4mm drop, that may work better for you.

Topo is the correct answer. Go with Altras if you dont mind your achilles blowing up

I threw my Timp4s into the bin after 450km’s (280miles) mixed trail, gravel road running. Soles were almost gone from forefoot area. Timp5 with vibram sole, is a different story. But their ”build quality” doesn’t impress me. Toebox TPU overlay started to separate from the fabric after 100 kilometrers and needed some glue. Same thing happened with my Lonepeak 7. I like the shoe, how it feels. But my next ones won’t be Altra. Maybe VJ Ultra 3… if it fits nicely.

I threw my Timp4s into the bin after 450km’s (280miles) mixed trail, gravel road running. Soles were almost gone from forefoot area. Timp5 with vibram sole, is a different story. But their ”build quality” doesn’t impress me. Toebox TPU overlay started to separate from the fabric after 100 kilometrers and needed some glue. Same thing happened with my Lonepeak 7. I like the shoe, how it feels. But my next ones won’t be Altra. Maybe VJ Ultra 3… if it fits nicely.

Altra Timp for a few years now

Only time I use my Crispi boots is when I’m hunting and might have 100+lbs on my back packing out an animal. Anything else I use my Altra trail runners.

Timp and Speedgoat have similarly stiff foam. Really nice for short and medium distances. Timp is going to offer the wider fit you require, but has rather shallow lugs. The Speedgoat is not a wide shoe AT ALL, but has great lugs for mud and grass. I have no experience with the Konos.

The Timp 4 is 2 versions old. That shoe had to have been sitting on a shelf for no less than 2 years before you bought it. I'd suspect the rubber dried out and that is what led to it wearing so quickly. Just a guess. The only issue I have had with any of my altras has been the midsole foam losing its rebound.

I’m a big fan of Altra Lone Peak and Timp shoes that seem to check the boxes above

Perfect. I find the timp a half size small as well. I also find the timp slightly more stable!

The lone peaks use a EVA foam where the Timps use an EVA+TPU midsole. I’ve found my Timp midsole to last significantly longer than the Ego EVA of the Lone Peaks and Olympics

I have not found the right shoe yet, no. I have found the Altra Lone Peak, Olympus, and Hoka Speedgoat midsoles to all lose compression rebound before the sole or uppers wear out. I don't have enough miles in my Hoka Mafate Speed 4 to make a determination, but they feel really good. I think the Ego Max midsole on the Altra Timp 5 has much better life than the Ego EVA, but is too firm for long days. The Nike Zegama 2 would've been a homerun for me if they didnt use the weird heel cup sock liner thing.

The Speedgoat is significantly stiffer than the Mafate. Altra Timp is a wonderful hiking/running shoe if you are interested in zero drop.

This is where I am. My feet aren’t crazy wide, but the outsides of my feet are really sensitive (probably from years of skiing). I’ve tried other brands like Brooks and several Topos but they just aren’t even close to as comfortable. I love the feel of Altras LP’s as basically being slippers. I can’t even find other hiking shoes now that are anywhere as comfy. I just wish they had vibram soles - I don’t trust them for Class 3 and 4 stuff. They don’t stick to rock as well as vibrams. I even tried the Altra Timps but they are not sized the same and I toe bang or am swimming along with my outside of feet rubbing. So even thought the durability might not be there, it’s worth it for me to have feet that don’t hurt. And I only go through about two pairs a year. Once done on the trails I make them my dog walking and yard chores shoes for another year. Edit - awww shit, I did not realize the 9 Plus have vibram. Awesome!!

I just picked up the Altra Timp 5 this season and I've been really liking it, they seem to fit a little better in the heel for me than my Lone Peaks. I will say the laces are on the short side and for whatever reason I have a helluva time getting them adjusted correctly on my left foot, but it always correct on my right. But once I get it right they're great!

Altra has worked best for me. Lone peak or Timp 5 are the ones I’ve worn 

Altra Olympus or Timp have massive toeboxes. Comfy too. Vibram soles and decent lugs on the bottom too. Really trail runners but are good enough for hiking too imho

I've worn the Altra Superior (Altra's standard fit), Timp (same), Escalante (same) and Lone Peaks (Altra's original fit, which is wider). In my experience the toe box on Topo shoes is about the same width as Altra, but the Topos are a bit more snug in the midfoot than Altra's standard fit shoes, which I like.

Altra Lone Peaks for me… I’ve considered experimenting with Topos but haven’t yet. The Altras solved a lot of problems for me when I switched to them and I’m kind of loath to change. I tried Timps once and didn’t love them at all for trail.

I wear barefoot shoes in regular life, and I used to wear Vivos on the trail. I do think I’m able to go farther and without sore feet with some cushion. I personally hike in Altra Timp 4s. I view my wearing minimalist shoes most of the time as strengthening my feet and then the cushion on my hiking shoes allows me to take the most advantage of that built up strength. 

I run trails in Altra Timps. I run roads in Altra Torins. That's it. Lol I do have a pair of Topo Pursuits, but I don't like them much, so I just use them for short distances.

My current pair of Timp 5 are at nearly 700km and feel fine still. Going to get another pair. I only run on gravel and technical r9cky trail

What is up with the heel cushion thing? It is in a really bad place and feel like my feet are slipping out. Loved the 5s, severely disappointed in the 6. Wish Altra would stop messing around with what works

I do what a lot of long-distance hikers do: trail runners with a wide toebox and low heel-to-toe drop. Foot doctors agree that splayed toes are good and healthy! And a low heel-to-toe drop promotes a more natural gait. Altra and Topo Athletic are a good place to start. Try on as many as you can at REI. I had to try more pairs than I'm willing to admit before I settled on the Altra Timp for now.

Any chance I get, I'm barefoot. If I'm at home, I'm not wearing shoes, and I exercise shoeless in the house, too. I *cautiously* think this is why I made the switch to Altra zero-drop shoes without ever even knowing that it presents problems for so many people to do so. Might also be why I immediately felt more comfortable with Altras and will suffer no other shoe anymore.

I have a pair of 13s now, after using a pair of 9s I think, for the past 2 years. I use them on runs of 3 to 8 miles on gravelly forest roads and single track trails. They have a good rock plate and work well on rooty, uneven, wet surfaces in my experience. I like my Altra Timps a little better. They’re more cushioned and somehow more ‘fun,’ in my mind. Not sure why. Nothing wrong with the Peregrines.

Everything you listed is a valid choice. People have different preferences. I have a few options depending on trail in the mood My default are Merrill Moab 3. I like how cool they keep me, they obviously excel in water (canyoneering, rafting, or just crossing), and I don’t usually feel the need for additional support/padding. I have even boot packed snow for six hours in them. I had wool socks on so plenty warm, even though my feet were soaked. I also have more traditional hiking boots. Columbia Newton Ridge mid WP for cold weather, if my ankles are sore, and just to mix up the pressure points on a multi day trip. Last, I have Altra trail runners. These are incredibly comfortable and I will use them if I’m on pavement, decomposed granite, or bare dry rock.

Altra Lone Peaks are the closest to a one shoe solution in my rotation. Hiking, scrabbles, mud, smooth single tracks, camp, driving. They do it all. But I also wear Giros for clipping in, La Sportivas on rock and in crampons, Tevas on the river and Brooks when running on pavement. Altra Lone Peaks won’t ever replace those specialists. And the Altra Timps are my favorite technical trail runner. Good luck.

I have very weak ankles. My left one is rebuilt with titanium plates because I rolled it one too many times. I was very apprehensive about switching to trail runners, specifically zero drop Altra's. I went ahead and tried it and learned something interesting. The frequency of my ankle rolling went way down. I figure the raised heel of traditional shoes/boots were causing me to roll more than my ankles simply being weak. I feel more connected to the ground if that makes sense. Whereas if I put on an older pair of shoes with a drop, I feel wobbly again. I have been wearing altras as everyday wear for almost 3 years and have maybe rolled my ankles 3 times over that time frame. Your results may vary but I think its worth trying out a Zero drop shoe. It may help quite a bit.

I have been in zero drop shoes for about 10 years. Altras have always been the most comfortable for me, but they just don’t last very long. I’m 6’3” 215 pounds, so your results may be better. I’ve pretty much settle on Topos for their decent durability. Since you have narrow feet, you might look at something from Astral. The compound they use for their sole (G rubber) is amazing. Like walk over wet, moss covered rocks with zero shits given type of amazing. I have a wide, high volume forefoot so they just aren’t great for me overall. My Goldilocks would be Altra comfort/Topo quality and durability/Astral sole

I use Timp 5s for a happy medium on trails - don’t really need a heel drop when the terrain changes all the time. Using on cloud monsters for road.

I wear my hiking shoes, a pair of Altra Timp 5 GTX Mids. They have a wide toe box and the Vibram sole has been very durable.

I switched to trail runners awhile ago and will never go back to hiking boots. I've had my Altra Timp 5s for about two years and they are fantastic. I've probably put 300 miles on them at this point between running and hiking and they are still in great shape.

I’m a huge bedrock sandal fan for hiking but for multi day hikes and longer hikes I lean altra timp for the little extra support and they’re perfect to avoid foot fatigue while carrying a heavy load. I buy them as close to a long hike as a can since durability isn’t as long as some of the more sturdy hikers but I think you’ll find that with any light weight, minimalist trail runner.

They run really small, get at least a half size larger than what you normally wear. When walking my ankles want to roll inward. I’ve never had a shoe that feels as awkward as these shoes. If I had to buy trail shoes I’d look at Brooks.

I agree, a trailrunning shoe with a somewhat thicker sole and a little tighter/more stable fit is what I use as well. Plus Vibram soles. Works for Via Feratas too. I wouldnt buy another pair due to durability, but I used a pair of Altra Timp for 1½ years and they were pretty good. Would not use a Lone Peak though. Maybe the 9+ with the Vibram outsole. Right now its Topo Pursuits.

I strictly use trail runners. Like the Altras, though there are a lot of wide toe box shoes out there now. Gone through s lot of scree with them. I do go through them quickly.

6’2” 215 here. I’m using Prodigio Pros right now and they are the best shoes I’ve used, hands down. The problem is finding them in larger sizes. I went through four pairs of Speedgoats but heard the fives had some quality issues, so I moved on to Altra Timps after those. They were… fine. Decent grip, nice toe box, but they started coming apart pretty quickly. I like having something with a higher stack height for anything longer than 20k I’ve got a pair of VJ Xtremes that I use for muddier or more technical trails, and the grip on those is insane, but they beat up my knees past 10 miles. I’ll probably grab some of their Ultras if I can’t find the Prodigios in my size again

I use them all the time on thru hikes and hiking in the Lake District. I use Altra with the Vibram mega grip which is really sticky and gives you confidence. The only downside is they don't last as long as boots

Great shoe but it'll beat your feet up on a hundo if you're not accustomed to it. I recommend Mont Blanc Speed or new Timp. 

Altra Olympus 6 Altra Lone Peak 8 Altra Timp 5 Yes, I love Altra lol

Lone peaks have zero drop, which means when you land on your foot you should be landing more towards the balls of your feet and with your feet below your center of mass. This is a more natural running form. If you’re heel striking in zero drop shoes, especially running up or down hill, it’s going to stretch out your tendons way past your norm. I run in zero drop Altras for trail and road.

I have a pair of Torins I use for long road runs and the outsole probably wears down a little faster than say my Kinvaras or Endorphin Speeds but the shoe really fits well so I've accepted it. I use Timps as my main trail shoe and I usually get good life out of those considering how much I beat them up every weekend on the rocky trails around where I live. I have a pair of Mont Blancs I bought a couple years ago but really only use them for racing a few times a year so they are still in great shape. Not sure how they'll hold up to higher mileage as they get older, but I've done a couple 50ks in them, and a handful of half marathon - 25ks and they've held up to that plus a couple training runs each race build.

I haven’t worn hiking boots in many years now. I only hike in Altras trail runners (Olympus is my favorite). When I travel for hiking, all I bring is my Altras and a pair of xero sandals.

Yes but a stiffer trail runner will be more comfortable on the rocks. La Sportiva, for example, is better for scrambling than an Altra. Both will work but for Dolomites would suggest something stiffer, with firmer lugs.

Tried the 9s? I’ve had 5s I liked and I have 7s, they held up well enough that it’s the tread wearing out first. Any stark difference in regular utility or fit between 9 and 7? Thanks.

Altras here, Escalante and Torin on the road, Timp and Lone Peak on the trails. Altra has the Outroad, which is a hybrid, if you're interested in taking a look. I'd try to own a couple of pair at a time, or purchase new shoes with life left on your higher mileage pair, so you've got a fair bit of overlap and can rotate between the two. This could allow for almost constant rotation if you time it right, and tends to extend the life of shoes with higher mileage, as you can begin to use them for shorter runs before trashing them.

Depending on just how technical, I'd also consider the new Timp with the Vibram soles. I really like Lone Peaks, but they can beat me up on techy trails. I find the Timps offer a more secure hold, better for me for more technical trails. I want to try the Superiors at some point, but know they are fairly soft and with the low stack, don't offer much protection.

I ran a 50 and 100 in Timps without changing shoes. I love the 5s. After several years of shit models, they’re back on top.

Yes I use these. I just ran 15m of trails in them this am. I hesitate to give anyone shoe advice (everyone's feet are different) but I really like these. I tend to run more difficult and rooty trails. The only thing I don't like about these is that for very rooty trails the heel height really contributed to ankle rolls. I run about 190 pounds. My go to shoe for races and medium distance is the Nike air terra kiger. My system is the wild horse for long training runs, the kiger for races and most training days (they are lighter and lower heel, less padding), then I keep a pair of altra zero drop for an occasional form check. I'll run like a 5k in them to regain more nuanced feel in my form to check myself on making sure my stride length and strike points stay where I want.

Did it a few weeks ago, it's about 50-60% excellent, 30% decent and 10% shite (when trying to run it that is). Did it in Altra Timp trail runners with waterproof socks

i do like the Timp 5, 4s were very nice but durability was crap. The 5s have 450k on (will be 550 after tomorrow) and no splitting of the upper at last, Vibram sole still sticky and not worn unevenly

i do like the Timp 5, 4s were very nice but durability was crap. The 5s have 450k on (will be 550 after tomorrow) and no splitting of the upper at last, Vibram sole still sticky and not worn unevenly

For context I’m 205lb and they didn’t have enough cushion or support. If you’re say 50lbs less then they might be ok. I went with the Timp5. Any Altra or Topo will be terrible with longevity in rocky terrain. They are just not robust enough for the abrasion but so comfortable.

I walk and run in zero drop Altra shoes 100% and have for several years now. I spent more than a year transitioning by running in a mixture of Brooks, then Hoka, then Altras. My trail shoes were the last change I made and even though I'd been running all pavement miles for a while at that point on zero drop the change was very noticeable on trail running. Calf and Achilles soreness galore. I'd never switch back at this point, but take it very slow.

Altra makes trail runners with a wide toe box. They’re my favorite right now. La sportive has been so so but durable in the past with narrower toe box than altra

I swear by the Altra Timp. It has a wide toe box, thick cushion , but the heel isn't higher than the forefoot, so it's a zero drop shoe. I prefer that style . If you don't want a zero drop shoe and don't need a big toe box, than a hoka speedgoat is a great trail shoe.

Altra Timp 5 for sure! That wide toe box is soo comfy

Altra Timp! Much preferred it to the lone peak - slightly narrower toe box. I won't fell race in it but will mountain race / sky run and have done with no complaints. Happily bombed down techy trails in it. I found it easier to get better lock down, the Vibram sole is great and good but not unstable amount of cushion.

Altra Timp 5... Vibram, some grip and some cushion. Meant more cushion? Olympus (also Vibram) Want more grip? Mountain king 2 (also Vibram)

I wear men's - altra timps. Also look at Topo. You may end up ordering a couple from sports shoes and sending back unless you're near the lakes or peaks! Women's shoes are B width as standard, men's are D width.

I'm an asics road shoe wearer and wear Altra Timp 5s for trail. Altra make some models with drop (think it's experience wild?) Have you considered Topo (good for foot splay, has some drop). Not sure if the NB 5 TR is trail enough for what you want?

I absolutely love my ALTRA TIMP 5 Trail Running shoe. I got mine a year ago so don't know if there's a newer version but I've gone on some pretty legit hikes with them and have had a great experience. I've also done some road running (\~5 miles) on them and while it's probably not ideal for keeping the tread, they were great.

That’s going to be incredibly subjective so definitely go put your foot in the shoe but for me yes. I even bought a second pair as my walk around shoes now.

Currently having a meltdown due to plantar fascitis and my trail shoes (Altra Timp 5s) falling apart my last run. Does anyone have any solid recommendations for a higher drop wide trail shoe? Training for a 45mi and 100mi race. I have a pair of Hoka Challenger 8s coming in wide. Topo Ultraventure 4s wide were too wide and I had pain on the top of my feet with them. I’m also currently working on strength exercises for my feet to help as well.

I have the timp and love them for Colorado but they would not be my choice for mud. Look into innov8 as they make some of the best mud runners around. 

I like the timp 5 but I’ve heard mixed reviews of the boa and would probably just avoid. I beat the ever living shit out of my shoes in the Colorado high country and have had to shoe goo the soles twice in spots so it’s definitely not bomb proof. Haven’t had any issues with the upper though. 

Just a heads up, Timp5 is their more narrow model. I got a pair on sale and on my first run I had some pretty rough foot cramping/discomfort. I almost gave up on them after that first go but gave them a few more tries after to make sure it wasn't just an off day. They have sort of broken in but I still find myself hesitant to take them out on a run as they just aren't comfortable for me. it's a narrow toe box (for Altra) with a very stiff upper that doesn't let the foot move around. If you have the opportunity to try them on before buying, please do so. You may find a different result but pay really close attention to how tight they feel on your foot when trying them on before making a final decision.

My Timp 5s have the exact same wear pattern but the shoes strings too lol they are great tho

I have probably 4 on regular rotation, 1 pair of speed goats, 1 pair of altras (timp?), 1 ancient pair of road runners/gym shoes, and 1 pair of Salomons (the ones with the almost cleat like tread). I really could get away with probably just the speed goats but I have found that having the option of different heel drops and treads really helps with different trail technicality and conditions as I am wildly injury prone. I retire my shoes after about 500-800 miles so depending on my training volume sometimes that’s once or twice a year, sometimes that’s after 4-5 years

I second this. You can really “feel” the ground in both of those shoes. The Timp is really stiff so it makes your foot feel very stable. FYI - you should size it up 1/2 to full size though

Moved 2 years ago. Escalate and Timp feel apart. Ordered another timp and the build was sick low quality only 1 made it into my foot and returned. Topo is my brand now. Done with Altra

My Altra trail runners are all I ever hike in. The slim and grippy sole makes them extremely safe in scree and rocky terrain.

I am a fan of Hoka and Altra on the trails and regularly alternate btn speedgoats and Mont blancs on my longer runs, but that won’t work for everyone. Others chimed in on transition but I will also note how the zero vs (typically) 4mm drop is less noticeable on trails vs roads. As with any new shoes, ease into the mileage. Don’t just rip a 20-miler in your new zero drops. Also, topo or altra, I recommend finding a good running store to try out a few options and see what feels best on your feet. I’ve found the biggest difference in feel when running comes down to the stack height and less so the heel drop. If you like the higher stack/cushion, that will narrow your choices in either brand. For Altra, I think Olympus, Timp and Lone Peak are their flagship trail shoes. There are good options out there but what works for me may be a fail for you and vice-versa. Good luck!

I have been told by my podiatrist that my feet are hypermobile and I run and hike (lots) in zero drop trail runners only (inov-8 and Altra). Never had boots for any of my adult-life serious long distance hiking. I agree that your PT should give you specific strengthening exercises for your particular issues but I see no advantage wearing boots … just heavy and hot and very slow drying. Every blue moon I roll an ankle but that’s because of tough terrain, not boots, and I’ve never injured my ankles in the process.

Ditto. I moved from the Lone Peaks to the Timps. Love this!

I 100% agree with this. An orthopedist once told me that my arches are so high it qualifies as a birth defect called "cavus foot." My foot looks completely normal to a casual observer, but my ankles roll very easily as a result of my high arches. As a result, I cannot wear high-stack shoes such as Hokas because of the lack of "ground feel" (for lack of a better term) that they produce. With trial and error, I've found that Altra Timp trail runners work best for me on uneven surfaces. They have just the right amount of cushion, stiffness, and ground feel.

For overnight hiking trips I've switched to Altra trail runners and love them, used to use hiking boots and then hiking shoes but these are so much better. I usually am barefoot in a canoe, switch to a keen style sandal for portaging to protect my toes. I always bring crocs (from giant tiger) for camp shoes.

Altra Timp 5. Been through the two previous versions of the Timp and I think 5 are the best so far. They're kind of between Lone Peak and Olympus. I have a pair of GTX Olympus (I don't remember which version) that I wear every once in awhile, but I'm not a big fan of how thick the midsoles are and the uppers are really stiff.

The new NB Hierro v9 is supposed to be a solid remake that is a better actual running shoe than previous versions of the Hierro. I think you might like the HOKA Speedgoat or the Altra Experience Wild, but I honestly haven't found a comparable shoe to the KOM that fits my foot like a NB.  Zegama is too squishy, More Trail is gigantic, Olympus too squishy, Lone Peak too thin.  Maybe the Altra Timp but you gotta buy in to the 0 drop thing.  I ran through 2 pairs of those but still not the same feel as the KOM. As a side note gripe: constantly disappointed in NB for dropping and creating new trail shoes all the time these days.  I feel like there's no continuity in their shoes anymore and has caused me to start running in other brands that fit me worse.  The 910 v4/Summit KOM was one of the last great shoes they made.  These days it seems like the More Trail super stack marshmallows or the Summit Unknown racing flat, or the Hierro which is pretty much a lifestyle shoe with a tread and sucks for running.  Maybe the new v9 will be a return to a solid mid stack trail shoe.

I switched to the Altra Lone Peaks from the Timps for this reason. I hated the high stack and felt too cushioned. I love the Lone Peaks. 

Altra Timp 5 but I want to try something else soon but not sure what

If its grip you're looking for see if you can find vibram soles. I've found those to be the grippiest out there. I personally love my Altra Timp 5s but I know Altra isn't for everyone

I did wear Altras Timp for a 5 day backpacking trip in Lake Clark NP, my feet did great. Shoe didn’t fall apart, but I had low expectations that this shoe will last me maybe the rest of summer