Saucony - Peregrine Series

My Peregrine 15’s soles are starting to split after about 100 miles. Bummed because they fit me better than any other shoes I’ve had or tried, but the durability is as bad as everyone said. I have a really tough time finding a good fitting shoe because my feet are widest at the midfoot and most wide fitting shoes have more room at the toe box. I tried on almost everything at REI last time I was in store and the usual recs weren’t a great fit. I’ve had Topos and Altras, I still felt like my feet were hanging over the edges and cramped. No preference for zero drop or not. Feet are kind of flat, but I do have some arch. Any recs for similar shoes or is this an issue that I need to fix by improving my arches?

You can see it on the middle lug in the 3rd and 4th row from the top. This was the first time I noticed. I think it was probably recent, maybe even over the weekend because I put about 20 miles on the shoes in Sedona/Flagstaff and terrain was rough going up Mt Humphreys. I thought maybe it was a design, but only this shoe had it. Other than the split, the lugs and shoes in general feel like they’re wearing out quicker than any other shoes I’ve owned. I run on sharp rocky terrain since I’m in Vegas, but because none of my other shoes have had the same problem, I can’t write it off as that. Not happy with the quality and would probably avoid the brand as a whole in the future.

They’re splitting on the bottom part of the sole. You can see it on the middle lug in the 3rd and 4th row. I thought it was part of the design, but it’s only on one shoe. Overall, really not happy with the quality and probably wouldn’t buy another pair of Saucony shoes. I got them at REI and they’re still within the return window, so I’m going to bring them back in.

Ever since they significantly overhauled it with the 12 (prior generations, especially the 11, were stiffer, burlier, heavier, and much more durable).

I love my Peregrines, have been running/hiking in them for a long time. The 15s just came out. I have been more of a fan of even numbers (12/14 over the 11/13, 14s have been my favorite in a long time) personally. I haven't tried the 15s yet. There wasn't anything wrong with them, but just my preference lately, so I'd still recommend them unless you wanted to get a more recent one which are all getting marked down in price now. 

If they aren't working, there isn't much you can do. I find that higher stack height shoes - the Calderas are 38mm/32mm in heel/toe - I tend to roll my ankles more and look for something closer to the ground. The Cascadias are 33mm/25mm, so your foot sits much closer to the ground, and you may be noticing this. I like Saucony Peregrines which are 28/24, about half an inch closer to the ground than the Calderas. Unfortunately, a lot of the max cushioning shoes tend to have higher stack heights.  You can otherwise look for more "stable" and wider sole shoes, but too wide and your gait changes. Or, mid top boots for better stability. You can always keep the Calderas and use them on non technical trails.

I'm in the exact same boat. Started with the Peregrine, went to Speedboat, back to Peregrine. Have a number of pairs of both floating around. I find the Hoka stickier, but better tred (that doesn't fall apart quickly) on the Peregrine.

j’ai eux la peregrine 12/13  impeccable mais la 14 beaucoup de problèmes ,Saucony n’a pas respecté les tailles,ducoup si fais du 44 il faut prendre 44,5.Problème de frottement au talon même avec la bonne taille.Bref elle n’est pas conçu comme  la peregrine 12 et 13 .Pouf moi celle la est un raté

j’ai eux la peregrine 12/13  impeccable mais la 14 beaucoup de problèmes ,Saucony n’a pas respecté les tailles,ducoup si fais du 44 il faut prendre 44,5.Problème de frottement au talon même avec la bonne taille.Bref elle n’est pas conçu comme  la peregrine 12 et 13 .Pouf moi celle la est un raté

Sorry to hear about the sprain, but yay for healing up! I use Altra trail running shoes. Love them for hiking, running, and the gym. (I see some people suggest having trail running shoes while wearing a brace for the ankle; perhaps you could consult a podiatrist.) You can sometimes find trail runners that are a bit resistant to water, which can be nice depending on weather and hiking conditions. I used to have a beautiful pair from Saucony that were drawstring. It was nice to not have to worry about re-tying laces, for example if you're experiencing swelling and need to loosen the shoes a bit. I know the difficulty of traveling light and having to find items that check multiple boxes -- wishing you luck!

Personally I don't like waterproof trail runners. They're ok for short runs but they overheat (as you said) or if they do get wet they stay wet for ages. It takes forever for them to dry. If you're here in summer even if your feet do get wet they shouldn't get too cold. I don't bother with waterproof socks in summer, again I overheat. In winter though they can be very useful. I'm not going to suggest a specific shoe as the fit is far too personal. I've had a lot of pairs of Saucony Peregrines and live on the Pennines (same hills as the Peak District). They have a 4mm drop so you might prefer something with more padding. I know a lot of people that use Inov8s Mudclaws etc etc but they're too thin for me. Hokas obviously and Altras if you prefer a wide toebox. I'd recommend going to a running shop and trying some on. Have you tried asking the event organisers to see what they suggest? They know the route so should be able to tell you what the surface and ground conditions will be like.

I've never had peregrines last all that long going back to the 5s I started with. I don't find the traction to be bad on wet rocks though.

Fan of peregrine and even had those older model exodus (the tanks!) and liked them, but something didn’t click for me in the Xodus Ultra. Really wanted to love them. But I just always felt flat running in them, and failed to get a lockdown fit. Nowadays prefer shoes with a bit more flexibility too. Such an odd experience considering the rave reviews! Glad they worked out for someone though!

I think you can grt some deals such as old versions, off colors and get good prices on trail runners… there’s probably not a new model at full price for under 100 that would be trustworthy lol shop deals, rei resupply, backcountry etc to find solid options like the lone peaks or saucony peregrines i like alot and usually can find good prices… got a pair on amazon for 50 bucks that was the 13s which r their best year haha